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Guest Fred B.
Posted

Last week's updates all failed to install, so I followed the

"troubleshooting" procedure of "disabling" Windows Update service, deleting

the appropriate files, and trying again. After 3 attempts with no success, I

gave up for the day.

 

At that point my "update history" showed ALL the patches I'd downloaded to

date, including those that failed most recently. Last night I decided to try

the "old manual" install method. I went over to Microsoft\Downloads,

retrieved the updates that failed, and tried a manual installation, one at

a time. Each succeeded.

 

Now for my "new" problem - Windows update "View Update History" now shows

ONLY those patches that were installed last night. Not a trace of anything

prior to them. When I "Check for Updates", all the files I just installed

still show up as needing to be installed.

 

 

Help ???

 

 

 

Thanks in advance,

 

 

Fred B.

 

 

 

 

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Guest Shenan Stanley
Posted

Fred B. wrote:

> Last week's updates all failed to install, so I followed the

> "troubleshooting" procedure of "disabling" Windows Update service,

> deleting the appropriate files, and trying again. After 3 attempts

> with no success, I gave up for the day.

>

> At that point my "update history" showed ALL the patches I'd

> downloaded to date, including those that failed most recently. Last

> night I decided to try the "old manual" install method. I went over

> to Microsoft\Downloads, retrieved the updates that failed, and

> tried a manual installation, one at a time. Each succeeded.

>

> Now for my "new" problem - Windows update "View Update History" now

> shows ONLY those patches that were installed last night. Not a

> trace of anything prior to them. When I "Check for Updates", all

> the files I just installed still show up as needing to be installed.

 

Is this actually a problem or do you just want it to be a problem?

 

If I was to integrate the critical updates into a Windows XP CD and install

afresh - I would not need MOST of the updates you have likely installed over

the years. They would be installed already and there would be no sign of

them in add or remove programs (with or without the "Show Updates" checkbox

marked.) It is not an issue because Windows XP knows I do not need these

patches and thus - when i scan for them - they are not shown as needed and I

never download/install them again.

 

In other words - the history is only useful if you need to remove a certain

update. If you did not have trouble with an update prior to now (any that

are not listed) odds are you will not have problems with them in the future.

If you do end up having trouble - you will have to research to figure out

what update it might be causing the issue and it would more likely be caused

by some other change - as there would be no cause-and-effect if nothing

changed.

 

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Guest Fred B.
Posted

No, I don't want it to be a problem that I'm overblowing.

 

I would however like to know it there's a way to get the "available updates"

to "see" that I've already installed what it's telling I "need" to install.

 

Regards,

 

FB

 

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"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> Fred B. wrote:

>> Last week's updates all failed to install, so I followed the

>> "troubleshooting" procedure of "disabling" Windows Update service,

>> deleting the appropriate files, and trying again. After 3 attempts

>> with no success, I gave up for the day.

>>

>> At that point my "update history" showed ALL the patches I'd

>> downloaded to date, including those that failed most recently. Last

>> night I decided to try the "old manual" install method. I went over

>> to Microsoft\Downloads, retrieved the updates that failed, and

>> tried a manual installation, one at a time. Each succeeded.

>>

>> Now for my "new" problem - Windows update "View Update History" now

>> shows ONLY those patches that were installed last night. Not a

>> trace of anything prior to them. When I "Check for Updates", all

>> the files I just installed still show up as needing to be installed.

>

> Is this actually a problem or do you just want it to be a problem?

>

> If I was to integrate the critical updates into a Windows XP CD and

> install afresh - I would not need MOST of the updates you have likely

> installed over the years. They would be installed already and there would

> be no sign of them in add or remove programs (with or without the "Show

> Updates" checkbox marked.) It is not an issue because Windows XP knows I

> do not need these patches and thus - when i scan for them - they are not

> shown as needed and I never download/install them again.

>

> In other words - the history is only useful if you need to remove a

> certain update. If you did not have trouble with an update prior to now

> (any that are not listed) odds are you will not have problems with them in

> the future. If you do end up having trouble - you will have to research to

> figure out what update it might be causing the issue and it would more

> likely be caused by some other change - as there would be no

> cause-and-effect if nothing changed.

>

> --

> Shenan Stanley

> MS-MVP

> --

> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

>

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"Fred B." <trash01NoSpam@mindvacant.com> wrote in message

news:848553D8-8FC4-48C2-AEB4-7080F564D17D@microsoft.com...

| No, I don't want it to be a problem that I'm overblowing.

|

| I would however like to know it there's a way to get the "available updates"

| to "see" that I've already installed what it's telling I "need" to install.

|

| Regards,

|

| FB

|

| --

| Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most!

| "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message

| news:OyZzqfxxHHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > Fred B. wrote:

| >> Last week's updates all failed to install, so I followed the

| >> "troubleshooting" procedure of "disabling" Windows Update service,

| >> deleting the appropriate files, and trying again. After 3 attempts

| >> with no success, I gave up for the day.

| >>

| >> At that point my "update history" showed ALL the patches I'd

| >> downloaded to date, including those that failed most recently. Last

| >> night I decided to try the "old manual" install method. I went over

| >> to Microsoft\Downloads, retrieved the updates that failed, and

| >> tried a manual installation, one at a time. Each succeeded.

| >>

| >> Now for my "new" problem - Windows update "View Update History" now

| >> shows ONLY those patches that were installed last night. Not a

| >> trace of anything prior to them. When I "Check for Updates", all

| >> the files I just installed still show up as needing to be installed.

| >

| > Is this actually a problem or do you just want it to be a problem?

| >

| > If I was to integrate the critical updates into a Windows XP CD and

| > install afresh - I would not need MOST of the updates you have likely

| > installed over the years. They would be installed already and there would

| > be no sign of them in add or remove programs (with or without the "Show

| > Updates" checkbox marked.) It is not an issue because Windows XP knows I

| > do not need these patches and thus - when i scan for them - they are not

| > shown as needed and I never download/install them again.

| >

| > In other words - the history is only useful if you need to remove a

| > certain update. If you did not have trouble with an update prior to now

| > (any that are not listed) odds are you will not have problems with them in

| > the future. If you do end up having trouble - you will have to research to

| > figure out what update it might be causing the issue and it would more

| > likely be caused by some other change - as there would be no

| > cause-and-effect if nothing changed.

| >

| > --

| > Shenan Stanley

| > MS-MVP

| > --

| > How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

| > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

| >

|

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