Update failure

[Guest TaurArian]

R, you're not sticking your nose in. I was just explaining why I thought Tea

Timer may be an issue. Call it thinking out loud. There has to be something

in common with all these posters as to why they are experiencing the same

problem, is it AV or is it some other program or similar that they have.

 

Any sort of real time protection has been known to cause problems.

 

K

 

"PA Bear" wrote:

> [sorry for sticking my nose in here, K. Asking about Spybot (Tea Timer) is

> certainly worth a shot here.]

>

> TaurArian wrote:

> > The OP in question at that time definitely had 0x80070002 not 0x80070020.

> > I was aware of the closeness of the numbers but at this stage anything

> > possible.

> > He had turned off the AV software etc but forgot Spybot Teatimer.

> > The code was 0x80070002.

> > K

> >

> >

> > "PA Bear" wrote:

> >

> >> Close but no cigar, I think:

> >>

> >> Error Code 0x80070020 [vs 80070002]

> >> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/blogs/mowgreen/index.php?showentry=1126

> >> --

> >> ~PA Bear

> >> http://www.iHateWhenThatHappens.mvp

> >>

> >> TaurArian wrote:

> >>> Anyone running Spybot S & D?

> >>>

> >>> "paul4golf" wrote:

> >>>> I tried to install the latest update for Framework 1.1 SP1 and received

> >>>> the

> >>>> error message 80070002. I treid several times with same results. Anyone

> >>>> that can help, I would appreciate it

> >>>> Paul

>

>

[Guest TaurArian]

Is this the update ?

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=281fB2cd-c715-4f05-A01f-0455d2d9ebfb&displaylang=en

 

Have you tried a manual download and install or tried to locate the update

in the softwaredistribution/folder/downloads and install from there by double

clicking on it?

 

"Jawoodjr63" wrote:

> I am not getting any message but Windows had tried to install KB928366 about

> 20 times and although it seems to install it wants to install it again... it

> is a security update for Framework 1.1

>

> "paul4golf" wrote:

>

> > I tried to install the latest update for Framework 1.1 SP1 and received the

> > error message 80070002. I treid several times with same results. Anyone that

> > can help, I would appreciate it

> > Paul

> >

[Guest Stepper4244]

The manual install seems to work.

 

"TaurArian" wrote:

> Is this the update ?

> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=281fB2cd-c715-4f05-A01f-0455d2d9ebfb&displaylang=en

>

> Have you tried a manual download and install or tried to locate the update

> in the softwaredistribution/folder/downloads and install from there by double

> clicking on it?

>

> "Jawoodjr63" wrote:

>

> > I am not getting any message but Windows had tried to install KB928366 about

> > 20 times and although it seems to install it wants to install it again... it

> > is a security update for Framework 1.1

> >

> > "paul4golf" wrote:

> >

> > > I tried to install the latest update for Framework 1.1 SP1 and received the

> > > error message 80070002. I treid several times with same results. Anyone that

> > > can help, I would appreciate it

> > > Paul

> > >

[Guest TaurArian]

TamaraB, have you tried manually downloading and installing the update or

installing the update directly from the softwaredistribution/downloads

folder? Some have had a little success there.

 

BTW there is rarely anyone from MS monitoring this forum.

 

K

 

"TamaraB" wrote:

> I see from other posts that MS agents are addressing other issues, EXCEPT

> this one. I guess this one may have them stumped. If an MS agent is reading

> these, can you at least tell us that you are working on the problem (if you

> don't have a resolution yet).

>

> It appears that many are having this same issue and some help would be

> appreciated.

>

> I for one am getting tired of seeing that little yellow shield in the right

> hand corner of my computer (that I can do nothing with - guess I could turn

> it off - but then I'd have to remember to turn it back on later).

>

> Is this a critical update that we need to have??

>

> Thanks!

>

> "paul4golf" wrote:

>

> > I tried to install the latest update for Framework 1.1 SP1 and received the

> > error message 80070002. I treid several times with same results. Anyone that

> > can help, I would appreciate it

> > Paul

> >

[Guest mustarddog]

Thank you TaurArian, this manual install worked for me.

 

 

 

"TaurArian" wrote:

> Is this the update ?

> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=281fB2cd-c715-4f05-A01f-0455d2d9ebfb&displaylang=en

>

> Have you tried a manual download and install or tried to locate the update

> in the softwaredistribution/folder/downloads and install from there by double

> clicking on it?

>

> "Jawoodjr63" wrote:

>

> > I am not getting any message but Windows had tried to install KB928366 about

> > 20 times and although it seems to install it wants to install it again... it

> > is a security update for Framework 1.1

> >

> > "paul4golf" wrote:

> >

> > > I tried to install the latest update for Framework 1.1 SP1 and received the

> > > error message 80070002. I treid several times with same results. Anyone that

> > > can help, I would appreciate it

> > > Paul

> > >

[Guest brittybabe69]

If you're running Vista, then you need to install the Framework manually. It

can be found here: -> C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Install

I had the same error message, and had no problems installing manually.

 

"paul4golf" wrote:

> I tried to install the latest update for Framework 1.1 SP1 and received the

> error message 80070002. I treid several times with same results. Anyone that

> can help, I would appreciate it

> Paul

>

[Guest Dave Horne]

This isn't a solution per se but I uninstalled microsoft.NET Framework 1.1

from Control Panel \ Programs. If I ever need this in the future I can

always download it from MS downloads at a later date.

 

 

"paul4golf" <paul4golf@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:0BB6CB5A-94D2-4E44-B88D-71C1579E0842@microsoft.com...

>I tried to install the latest update for Framework 1.1 SP1 and received the

> error message 80070002. I treid several times with same results. Anyone

> that

> can help, I would appreciate it

> Paul

>

[Guest Emilia]

I ignored the update and the icon after a few hours was no longer on my

notification area. I checked to see if it still needed to be installed and

noticed it was installed around 12am with no errors.

 

Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1

 

Installation date: ‎11/‎29/‎2007 12:01 AM

 

Installation status: Successful

 

So my best guess is to just ignore it (make sure the icon stays visible in

your notification area) and then check back later. If the icon has

disappeared chances are it installed. Check to make sure.

[Guest tb]

"paul4golf" wrote:

> I tried to install the latest update for Framework 1.1 SP1 and received the

> error message 80070002. I treid several times with same results. Anyone that

> can help, I would appreciate it

> Paul

>

 

Same problem here. However go to:

 

C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download\Install

 

after download and run the file

 

NDP1.1sp1-KB867460-X86.exe

 

manually. Works fine.

[Guest tomedcollins]

I can empathise with your frustration Tamara - I'm unable to install no less

than 7 'important' and 'recommended' updates, and while I accept that this

board isn't monitored by MS agents, what I don't accept is not receiving the

promised reply within one business day for the help request I sent in on the

subject. I've now sent in another one, and will continue to do so every day

until I get some sort of response. From what i've read around various forums,

i'm not the only one whose help request has been met by MS with absolutely no

response.

 

Due to one of the updates I can't install being a hotfix without which many

games crash and others don't even load in the first place, I now have a

gaming PC which I can't play up-to-date games on. I don't want to buy a copy

of XP and replace Vista, but it's looking like i've got no other choice

unless I reconcile myself with being stuck with an overpowered internet

browsing and e-mailing machine!

 

"TamaraB" wrote:

> I see from other posts that MS agents are addressing other issues, EXCEPT

> this one. I guess this one may have them stumped. If an MS agent is reading

> these, can you at least tell us that you are working on the problem (if you

> don't have a resolution yet).

>

> It appears that many are having this same issue and some help would be

> appreciated.

>

> I for one am getting tired of seeing that little yellow shield in the right

> hand corner of my computer (that I can do nothing with - guess I could turn

> it off - but then I'd have to remember to turn it back on later).

>

> Is this a critical update that we need to have??

>

> Thanks!

>

> "paul4golf" wrote:

>

> > I tried to install the latest update for Framework 1.1 SP1 and received the

> > error message 80070002. I treid several times with same results. Anyone that

> > can help, I would appreciate it

> > Paul

> >

[Guest Don Burnette]

I have never , been able to get this update to install, on my XP Pro 32 bit

system.

 

I try to install the udpate, get an error that I have to have Net Framework

1.1 SP1 udpate first.

I tried downloading the update to install, and get an error " unable to open

the file".

 

I hid this update for a long while, just tried it again yesterday with same

result.

 

Obviously, MS has had a major problem with this update for many, I am

somewhat suprised they never fixed it...

 

 

 

 

--

Don

 

 

"tomedcollins" <tomedcollins@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:EAF68F5D-C529-4606-BD48-ACA2AFB05371@microsoft.com...

>I can empathise with your frustration Tamara - I'm unable to install no

>less

> than 7 'important' and 'recommended' updates, and while I accept that this

> board isn't monitored by MS agents, what I don't accept is not receiving

> the

> promised reply within one business day for the help request I sent in on

> the

> subject. I've now sent in another one, and will continue to do so every

> day

> until I get some sort of response. From what i've read around various

> forums,

> i'm not the only one whose help request has been met by MS with absolutely

> no

> response.

>

> Due to one of the updates I can't install being a hotfix without which

> many

> games crash and others don't even load in the first place, I now have a

> gaming PC which I can't play up-to-date games on. I don't want to buy a

> copy

> of XP and replace Vista, but it's looking like i've got no other choice

> unless I reconcile myself with being stuck with an overpowered internet

> browsing and e-mailing machine!

>

> "TamaraB" wrote:

>

>> I see from other posts that MS agents are addressing other issues, EXCEPT

>> this one. I guess this one may have them stumped. If an MS agent is

>> reading

>> these, can you at least tell us that you are working on the problem (if

>> you

>> don't have a resolution yet).

>>

>> It appears that many are having this same issue and some help would be

>> appreciated.

>>

>> I for one am getting tired of seeing that little yellow shield in the

>> right

>> hand corner of my computer (that I can do nothing with - guess I could

>> turn

>> it off - but then I'd have to remember to turn it back on later).

>>

>> Is this a critical update that we need to have??

>>

>> Thanks!

>>

>> "paul4golf" wrote:

>>

>> > I tried to install the latest update for Framework 1.1 SP1 and received

>> > the

>> > error message 80070002. I treid several times with same results. Anyone

>> > that

>> > can help, I would appreciate it

>> > Paul

>> >

[Guest nine9volt]

Same problem here I can't install that update hope you received an answer by

now.

 

"paul4golf" wrote:

> I tried to install the latest update for Framework 1.1 SP1 and received the

> error message 80070002. I treid several times with same results. Anyone that

> can help, I would appreciate it

> Paul

>

[Guest eggsBenedict]

Allen,

 

Thanks for the link. I was able to install successfully on my XP-Home OS.

Again, thanks!

 

"Allen" wrote:

> The update that you are refering to has been available since 2004 for XP and

> Vista

>

> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=a8f5654f-088e-40b2-bbdb-a83353618b38&DisplayLang=en

>

> Apparently, some Windows Update files are corrupt on your system. Install it

> from the above link. A secondary security update is also needed, which you

> will be prompted to install afterwards if you run Windows Update again.

>

> "cozzy121" wrote:

>

> > Similar problem here.

> > Running Vista Home Premium, with 64x2 bitAMD.

> >

> > Tried to instal the .NET Framework Service Pack update, got Error 80070002.

> >

> > Deleted the files as per the solution offered by Help.

> > Ran update again, & the same thing happened on instalation.

> >

> > Methinks someone made a mess of the update file & MS won't admit it.

> >

> >

> > "Dave Horne" wrote:

> >

> > > You can add me to the list as well. I haven't had any problems updating

> > > (except for one major problem that Darrell Gorter fixed) in months. I am at

> > > least glad to know the problem isn't at my end ... I hope.

> > >

> >

[Guest Don Burnette]

When I try that, I get the following message:

 

" This patch package could not be opened. Verify that the patch package

exists, and you can access it, or contact the vendor to verify this is a

valid windows installer patch package".

 

 

 

 

--

Don

 

 

"eggsBenedict" <eggsBenedict@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:CBD89BBF-29FE-4EA8-8226-5EB1D0FC3D97@microsoft.com...

> Allen,

>

> Thanks for the link. I was able to install successfully on my XP-Home OS.

> Again, thanks!

>

> "Allen" wrote:

>

>> The update that you are refering to has been available since 2004 for XP

>> and

>> Vista

>>

>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=a8f5654f-088e-40b2-bbdb-a83353618b38&DisplayLang=en

>>

>> Apparently, some Windows Update files are corrupt on your system. Install

>> it

>> from the above link. A secondary security update is also needed, which

>> you

>> will be prompted to install afterwards if you run Windows Update again.

>>

>> "cozzy121" wrote:

>>

>> > Similar problem here.

>> > Running Vista Home Premium, with 64x2 bitAMD.

>> >

>> > Tried to instal the .NET Framework Service Pack update, got Error

>> > 80070002.

>> >

>> > Deleted the files as per the solution offered by Help.

>> > Ran update again, & the same thing happened on instalation.

>> >

>> > Methinks someone made a mess of the update file & MS won't admit it.

>> >

>> >

>> > "Dave Horne" wrote:

>> >

>> > > You can add me to the list as well. I haven't had any problems

>> > > updating

>> > > (except for one major problem that Darrell Gorter fixed) in months.

>> > > I am at

>> > > least glad to know the problem isn't at my end ... I hope.

>> > >

>> >

[Guest LarryB]

tb,

I used your fix by going to the appropriate folder and used "Run as

Administrator", the update installed fine, but after rebooting the pesky

"Update is ready to be installed" icon was back in my systray. I clicked on

install, clicked on shutdown, turned the computer back on and voila, "Update"

apparently believes it has installed the update. While it does not show up

as an installed update, at least not yet, it does show up as a successful

install in "Update History".

 

Sure would be nice to know what caused the problem. Maybe some guru will

figure it out and let the rest of us know! :-)

--

Dell E510

Pentium D-820

2GB DDR2 SDRAM

Dual 250GB Seagate HDDs

BFG(Nvidia) 7600GT-OC Graphics Card

Windows Vista Ultimate 32 bit

 

 

"tb" wrote:

> "paul4golf" wrote:

>

> > I tried to install the latest update for Framework 1.1 SP1 and received the

> > error message 80070002. I treid several times with same results. Anyone that

> > can help, I would appreciate it

> > Paul

> >

>

> Same problem here. However go to:

>

> C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download\Install

>

> after download and run the file

>

> NDP1.1sp1-KB867460-X86.exe

>

> manually. Works fine.

>

>

>

[Guest James]

I'm a bit "antsy" about deleting or renaming folders in my operating system,

and even more "antsy" about reloading my Vista OS, all to correct a problem

that was caused by Microsoft, i.e., this text at

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=910336 - CAUSE - This problem occurs when

some files in the update are missing, even though the update is downloaded

and extracted successfully, when referring to receipt of an 80070002 error

code.

 

Surely there must be an easier method to "fix" this problem when an update

fails, maybe issuing the update with another name...

 

As you have already realized, I'm not "computer literate," but trying to

learn.

 

James

-----

 

"paul4golf" wrote:

> I tried to install the latest update for Framework 1.1 SP1 and received the

> error message 80070002. I treid several times with same results. Anyone that

> can help, I would appreciate it

> Paul

>

[Guest RAH072979]

I tried this and it worked!!!!!! Yeah! For some reason my path, however, was

c:\Windows\SotfwareDistribution\Download\Install

Also, even if you are in your admin account run it as an administrator by

right-clicking on the .exe file.

Thanks brittybabe69!!!!

 

"brittybabe69" wrote:

> If you're running Vista, then you need to install the Framework manually. It

> can be found here: -> C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Install

> I had the same error message, and had no problems installing manually.

>

> "paul4golf" wrote:

>

> > I tried to install the latest update for Framework 1.1 SP1 and received the

> > error message 80070002. I treid several times with same results. Anyone that

> > can help, I would appreciate it

> > Paul

> >

[Guest Dave Horne]

James, I too am not an expert but some folders get recreated every time

Windows starts up. By renaming a folder you can always put it back in place

if the 'solution' didn't work.

 

It is now quite clear that MS didn't test this update very carefully. I

rather doubt anyone from MS will admit releasing a faulty update.

 

 

"James" <James@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:A056EE19-8DE8-440B-AEEC-66E4E295F1DA@microsoft.com...

> I'm a bit "antsy" about deleting or renaming folders in my operating

> system,

> and even more "antsy" about reloading my Vista OS, all to correct a

> problem

> that was caused by Microsoft, i.e., this text at

> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=910336 - CAUSE - This problem occurs

> when

> some files in the update are missing, even though the update is downloaded

> and extracted successfully, when referring to receipt of an 80070002 error

> code.

>

> Surely there must be an easier method to "fix" this problem when an update

> fails, maybe issuing the update with another name...

>

> As you have already realized, I'm not "computer literate," but trying to

> learn.

>

> James

> -----

>

> "paul4golf" wrote:

>

>> I tried to install the latest update for Framework 1.1 SP1 and received

>> the

>> error message 80070002. I treid several times with same results. Anyone

>> that

>> can help, I would appreciate it

>> Paul

>>

[Guest CDS]

Link worked great. Thank you. It's good that somebody knows how to support

this stuff.

 

"Allen" wrote:

> The update that you are refering to has been available since 2004 for XP and

> Vista

>

> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=a8f5654f-088e-40b2-bbdb-a83353618b38&DisplayLang=en

>

> Apparently, some Windows Update files are corrupt on your system. Install it

> from the above link. A secondary security update is also needed, which you

> will be prompted to install afterwards if you run Windows Update again.

>

> "cozzy121" wrote:

>

> > Similar problem here.

> > Running Vista Home Premium, with 64x2 bitAMD.

> >

> > Tried to instal the .NET Framework Service Pack update, got Error 80070002.

> >

> > Deleted the files as per the solution offered by Help.

> > Ran update again, & the same thing happened on instalation.

> >

> > Methinks someone made a mess of the update file & MS won't admit it.

> >

> >

> > "Dave Horne" wrote:

> >

> > > You can add me to the list as well. I haven't had any problems updating

> > > (except for one major problem that Darrell Gorter fixed) in months. I am at

> > > least glad to know the problem isn't at my end ... I hope.

> > >

> >

[Guest Garfish]

Just follow the yellow brick road. "brittybabe69 wrote and worked for me

(vista ultimate x86)

Go to C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download\Install and install manually

the archive. After finish run again the windows update to search for updates

and install automatic if any new.

Finish. You are updated now"

 

"TaurArian" wrote:

> Is this the update ?

> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=281fB2cd-c715-4f05-A01f-0455d2d9ebfb&displaylang=en

>

> Have you tried a manual download and install or tried to locate the update

> in the softwaredistribution/folder/downloads and install from there by double

> clicking on it?

>

> "Jawoodjr63" wrote:

>

> > I am not getting any message but Windows had tried to install KB928366 about

> > 20 times and although it seems to install it wants to install it again... it

> > is a security update for Framework 1.1

> >

> > "paul4golf" wrote:

> >

> > > I tried to install the latest update for Framework 1.1 SP1 and received the

> > > error message 80070002. I treid several times with same results. Anyone that

> > > can help, I would appreciate it

> > > Paul

> > >

[Guest Carsten]

It seems strange that the file that is downloaded to the download folder is

dated 1 Sep 2004. I found lots of info regarding KB867460 on Google, all

dated in 2004. All of this is way before Vista.

 

And .NET Framework 1.1 - isn't that for XP? Isn't Vista running 3.0? Is it

possible that the Update service is delivering a wrong and old file that was

never meant for Vista?

 

Sorry, I don't know much about this, but is seems strange that the update is

much older than Vista itself.

 

"TaurArian" wrote:

> Fallstar, BitDefender has been known to cause problems before in Vista.

> Do you have real-time-protection turned on?

>

> "Fallstar" wrote:

>

> > I do not have Spybot installed. But I do have BitDefender Internet Security

> > running, as well as Windows Defender.

> >

> > "TaurArian" wrote:

> >

> > > Anyone running Spybot S & D?

> > >

> > >

> > > "paul4golf" wrote:

> > >

> > > > I tried to install the latest update for Framework 1.1 SP1 and received the

> > > > error message 80070002. I treid several times with same results. Anyone that

> > > > can help, I would appreciate it

> > > > Paul

> > > >

[Guest Caveman]

The .NET 1.1 SP1 failed to install on my laptop yesterday with the same error

message (8007002). So I turned on my desktop late last night to see if the

same problem exists there. However, this update did not show up. I tried it

again today on the desktop but the only available update is for the Window

Defender released today (KB915597). It seems to me that MS pulled the .NET

update due to the massive installation failure. I also rember that the update

message on the laptop said that the reason for the failure is something like

"not needed". I will just ignore the .NET update for now. May be MS

accidentally released an unfinished update.

 

"paul4golf" wrote:

> I tried to install the latest update for Framework 1.1 SP1 and received the

> error message 80070002. I treid several times with same results. Anyone that

> can help, I would appreciate it

> Paul

>

[Guest GeorgeOF]

I followed brittybabe69's suggestion later in this post (ie run the updater

file from its folder) and it worked fine for me. The update now appears in

the update history list, but not in the installed updates list.

 

I have also had responses from Microsoft. The first did not understand my

problem (my fault, no doubt, for not being clear enough) and told me how to

re-install .NET Framework the second has advised me to repair Windows Vista

with the original DVD. Now, the manufacturer of my machine neglected to give

me a copy of the DVD, so I will have to get it from them but I'm concerned

that the second response from Microsoft identified the error code I was

getting as 80070005 NOT 80070002. I'm not clear whether this was a typo or a

misunderstanding, so I am checking with Microsoft.

 

I am happy to post the advice from Microsoft if anyone wants it, but it

might be better to wait.

 

One final piece: my son, who runs XP received notice of the same update and

had no trouble installing it.

 

Cheers

 

George

"PA Bear" wrote:

> Thanks, George. Yes, please keep us informed. This has got all of us

> scratching our heads.

> --

> ~PA Bear

>

> GeorgeOF wrote:

> > Thank you, Robear.

> >