Guest Marco Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 We have teenagers at home and until recently, they have demonstrated to be trustworthy in not logging onto inappropriate websites. A couple of days ago, our daughter informed us that her brother was using our computer to visit x-rated sites. We don't want to challenge him about this until we have proof. Is there a software our there that we can install that will allow us to monitor sites that our computer has accessed? Thanks. -- Marco Quote
Guest Straight Talk Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 04:22:01 -0700, Marco <Marco17@yahoo.com.au> wrote: >We have teenagers at home and until recently, they have demonstrated to be >trustworthy in not logging onto inappropriate websites. A couple of days >ago, our daughter informed us that her brother was using our computer to >visit x-rated sites. Well, you allowed them to use the Internet, didn't you? What did you expect? And what makes you believe you can keep a young man from exploring such stuff? >We don't want to challenge him about this until we have >proof. Is there a software our there that we can install that will allow us >to monitor sites that our computer has accessed? Thanks. There probably is. But I would be very careful about monitoring without his knowledge. You may cause more bad than good. May I suggest a different approach? Start talking to your son, show interest and care about what he's doing and coach him about all aspects of life instead of foolishly believing that you can keep him away from all the horrors of this world. BTW, this has nothing to do with security (except that some x-rated sites may contain malware). It's a social challenge. Quote
Guest PA Bear Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 > ...Is there a software our there that we can install that will > allow us to monitor sites that our computer has accessed? Marco, chances are that your son is more computer savvy than you and has already deleted the information you're looking for. Here's what I recommend: 1. Have a serious talk with your son about his internet use (remembering that he's innocent until proven guilty) and consider taking punitive measures (e.g., no internet access for X days) just because you're the parent and you say so. 2. Locate the family computer in a public area (e.g., dining room living room) where a parent can supervise its use. For their protection as well as yours, do NOT allow a computer to be located in your children's bedrooms. 3. Each family member should have and use his/her own, password-protected User Profile but only one Profile (yours) should have Administrative privileges. Of course, you will know everyone's password and serious consequences will ensue [see #1 above] if a password is changed without your knowledge. 4. From time to time, log-in to each of your children's User Profiles and review their browing History. Set the number of days to keep such History as desired. More at http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ie6/using/howto/basics/history/button.mspx. (If you're running IE7 now, see Help > "To find websites you have visited" and "To change the number of days that webpages are kept in the browsing history".) Here's a great tool for you to use to accomplish #3 and #4 above: Windows SteadyState (formerly known as the Shared Computer Toolkit for WinXP) ["Whether you manage computers in a school computer lab or an Internet cafe, a library, or even in your home, Windows SteadyState helps make it easy for you to keep your computers running the way you want them to, no matter who uses them."] Download: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=d077a52d-93e9-4b02-bd95-9d770ccdb431 (Validation Required) Handbook Download: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=d64af114-336c-4418-beb7-e074e813b498 Good luck! -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User) AumHa VSOP & Admin DTS-L.org Marco wrote: > We have teenagers at home and until recently, they have demonstrated to > be > trustworthy in not logging onto inappropriate websites. A couple of days > ago, our daughter informed us that her brother was using our computer to > visit x-rated sites. We don't want to challenge him about this until we > have proof. Is there a software our there that we can install that will > allow us to monitor sites that our computer has accessed? Thanks. Quote
Guest Straight Talk Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 12:23:40 -0400, "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote: >Marco, chances are that your son is more computer savvy than you and has >already deleted the information you're looking for. Here's what I >recommend: > >1. Have a serious talk with your son about his internet use (remembering >that he's innocent until proven guilty) Ack. >and consider taking punitive measures (e.g., no internet access for X days) >just because you're the parent and you say so. Why make him even more curious? Heck, go introduce the poor guy to the birds and the bees before he starts learning from x-rated sites (he will find ways to satisfy his curiosity anyway). And why use non-arguments like "because I say so"?. Kids aren't stupid. >2. Locate the family computer in a public area (e.g., dining room living >room) where a parent can supervise its use. For their protection as well as >yours, do NOT allow a computer to be located in your children's bedrooms. Ack. >3. Each family member should have and use his/her own, password-protected >User Profile but only one Profile (yours) should have Administrative >privileges. Ack. >Of course, you will know everyone's password and serious >consequences will ensue [see #1 above] if a password is changed without your >knowledge. Why? As an administrator you have all the access you need. >4. From time to time, log-in to each of your children's User Profiles and >review their browing History. But let him know in advance if you're doing so. Quote
Guest Marco Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 Thanks very much for your response. Appreciate the help. -- Marco "PA Bear" wrote: > > ...Is there a software our there that we can install that will > > allow us to monitor sites that our computer has accessed? > > Marco, chances are that your son is more computer savvy than you and has > already deleted the information you're looking for. Here's what I > recommend: > > 1. Have a serious talk with your son about his internet use (remembering > that he's innocent until proven guilty) and consider taking punitive > measures (e.g., no internet access for X days) just because you're the > parent and you say so. > > 2. Locate the family computer in a public area (e.g., dining room living > room) where a parent can supervise its use. For their protection as well as > yours, do NOT allow a computer to be located in your children's bedrooms. > > 3. Each family member should have and use his/her own, password-protected > User Profile but only one Profile (yours) should have Administrative > privileges. Of course, you will know everyone's password and serious > consequences will ensue [see #1 above] if a password is changed without your > knowledge. > > 4. From time to time, log-in to each of your children's User Profiles and > review their browing History. Set the number of days to keep such History > as desired. More at > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ie6/using/howto/basics/history/button.mspx. > (If you're running IE7 now, see Help > "To find websites you have visited" > and "To change the number of days that webpages are kept in the browsing > history".) > > Here's a great tool for you to use to accomplish #3 and #4 above: > > Windows SteadyState > (formerly known as the Shared Computer Toolkit for WinXP) > > ["Whether you manage computers in a school computer lab or an Internet cafe, > a library, or even in your home, Windows SteadyState helps make it easy for > you to keep your computers running the way you want them to, no matter who > uses them."] > > Download: > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=d077a52d-93e9-4b02-bd95-9d770ccdb431 > (Validation Required) > > Handbook Download: > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=d64af114-336c-4418-beb7-e074e813b498 > > Good luck! > -- > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) > MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User) > AumHa VSOP & Admin DTS-L.org > > Marco wrote: > > We have teenagers at home and until recently, they have demonstrated to > > be > > trustworthy in not logging onto inappropriate websites. A couple of days > > ago, our daughter informed us that her brother was using our computer to > > visit x-rated sites. We don't want to challenge him about this until we > > have proof. Is there a software our there that we can install that will > > allow us to monitor sites that our computer has accessed? Thanks. > > Quote
Guest Roger Abell [MVP] Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 Nice set of advisories Robear. I only wanted to point out that on your item 3, the admin can set the accounts so that they cannot change their own password. One of course would want to then periodically change all of the passwords for them, but one would then always be able to use the handy shortcut of logging in with any of the accounts and have access to their private storage, their internet cache, etc.. As a comment for Marco, as I see it this is not a question of making a rule "do not do this", as that will only translate into "can't do that here". Instead, as others have suggested, one does need to work with the flow (of maturation) and discover ways to allow things to unfold responsibly. Roger "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message news:e8qe6P7yHHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> ...Is there a software our there that we can install that will >> allow us to monitor sites that our computer has accessed? > > Marco, chances are that your son is more computer savvy than you and has > already deleted the information you're looking for. Here's what I > recommend: > > 1. Have a serious talk with your son about his internet use (remembering > that he's innocent until proven guilty) and consider taking punitive > measures (e.g., no internet access for X days) just because you're the > parent and you say so. > > 2. Locate the family computer in a public area (e.g., dining room living > room) where a parent can supervise its use. For their protection as well > as yours, do NOT allow a computer to be located in your children's > bedrooms. > > 3. Each family member should have and use his/her own, password-protected > User Profile but only one Profile (yours) should have Administrative > privileges. Of course, you will know everyone's password and serious > consequences will ensue [see #1 above] if a password is changed without > your knowledge. > > 4. From time to time, log-in to each of your children's User Profiles and > review their browing History. Set the number of days to keep such History > as desired. More at > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ie6/using/howto/basics/history/button.mspx. > (If you're running IE7 now, see Help > "To find websites you have visited" > and "To change the number of days that webpages are kept in the browsing > history".) > > Here's a great tool for you to use to accomplish #3 and #4 above: > > Windows SteadyState > (formerly known as the Shared Computer Toolkit for WinXP) > > ["Whether you manage computers in a school computer lab or an Internet > cafe, a library, or even in your home, Windows SteadyState helps make it > easy for you to keep your computers running the way you want them to, no > matter who uses them."] > > Download: > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=d077a52d-93e9-4b02-bd95-9d770ccdb431 > (Validation Required) > > Handbook Download: > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=d64af114-336c-4418-beb7-e074e813b498 > > Good luck! > -- > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) > MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User) > AumHa VSOP & Admin DTS-L.org > > Marco wrote: >> We have teenagers at home and until recently, they have demonstrated to >> be >> trustworthy in not logging onto inappropriate websites. A couple of days >> ago, our daughter informed us that her brother was using our computer to >> visit x-rated sites. We don't want to challenge him about this until we >> have proof. Is there a software our there that we can install that will >> allow us to monitor sites that our computer has accessed? Thanks. > Quote
Guest PA Bear Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 You're most welcome, Marco. Good luck! Marco wrote: > Thanks very much for your response. Appreciate the help. > > >>> ...Is there a software our there that we can install that will >>> allow us to monitor sites that our computer has accessed? >> >> Marco, chances are that your son is more computer savvy than you and has >> already deleted the information you're looking for. Here's what I >> recommend: >> >> 1. Have a serious talk with your son about his internet use (remembering >> that he's innocent until proven guilty) and consider taking punitive >> measures (e.g., no internet access for X days) just because you're the >> parent and you say so. >> >> 2. Locate the family computer in a public area (e.g., dining room living >> room) where a parent can supervise its use. For their protection as well >> as yours, do NOT allow a computer to be located in your children's >> bedrooms. >> >> 3. Each family member should have and use his/her own, password-protected >> User Profile but only one Profile (yours) should have Administrative >> privileges. Of course, you will know everyone's password and serious >> consequences will ensue [see #1 above] if a password is changed without >> your knowledge. >> >> 4. From time to time, log-in to each of your children's User Profiles and >> review their browing History. Set the number of days to keep such >> History >> as desired. More at >> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ie6/using/howto/basics/history/button.mspx. >> (If you're running IE7 now, see Help > "To find websites you have >> visited" >> and "To change the number of days that webpages are kept in the browsing >> history".) >> >> Here's a great tool for you to use to accomplish #3 and #4 above: >> >> Windows SteadyState >> (formerly known as the Shared Computer Toolkit for WinXP) >> >> ["Whether you manage computers in a school computer lab or an Internet >> cafe, a library, or even in your home, Windows SteadyState helps make it >> easy for you to keep your computers running the way you want them to, no >> matter who uses them."] >> >> Download: >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=d077a52d-93e9-4b02-bd95-9d770ccdb431 >> (Validation Required) >> >> Handbook Download: >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=d64af114-336c-4418-beb7-e074e813b498 >> >> Good luck! >> -- >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) >> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User) >> AumHa VSOP & Admin DTS-L.org >> >> Marco wrote: >>> We have teenagers at home and until recently, they have demonstrated to >>> be >>> trustworthy in not logging onto inappropriate websites. A couple of >>> days >>> ago, our daughter informed us that her brother was using our computer to >>> visit x-rated sites. We don't want to challenge him about this until we >>> have proof. Is there a software our there that we can install that will >>> allow us to monitor sites that our computer has accessed? Thanks. Quote
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