Guest Peter Posted July 27, 2007 Posted July 27, 2007 I haven't had any problems except perhaps an increase in red alerts in my Event Viewer from 1 or 2 to 4 or 5/day, but that could be other factors. My concern is that I allowed it in to both my XP Pros and my Vista Ultimate (I triple boot) and I have a mere Pentium 4 HT @ 3ghz...not a Core-2 Duo etc. etc. Should I uninstall it or leave it? The wording of the KB is nebulous saying Intel processors, particularly Core-2 Duo. so should I be concerned or not? -- Peter Toronto, Canada
Guest MowGreen [MVP] Posted July 28, 2007 Posted July 28, 2007 What Events are showing, Peter ? That would determine whether you should uninstall it or not. Frankly, the lack of documentation in regards to KB936357 is why I did not allow it to install on either of my systems. Since neither system has the CPUs listed in the KB article ... the updates were hidden. MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007] =============== *-343-* FDNY Never Forgotten =============== Peter wrote: > I haven't had any problems except perhaps an increase in red alerts in > my Event Viewer from 1 or 2 to 4 or 5/day, but that could be other factors. > My concern is that I allowed it in to both my XP Pros and my Vista > Ultimate (I triple boot) and I have a mere Pentium 4 HT @ 3ghz...not a > Core-2 Duo etc. etc. > Should I uninstall it or leave it? > The wording of the KB is nebulous saying Intel processors, particularly > Core-2 Duo. so should I be concerned or not? >
Guest Peter Posted July 28, 2007 Posted July 28, 2007 Warning these are copied directly so a bit long winded. These may or may not have any bearing on this particular update, but as I wasn't getting them before it makes me wonder if it is the update or the fact that I installed ATI's latest Catalyst Center. Log Name: Application Source: WerSvc Date: 28/07/2007 6:41:46 AM Event ID: 5007 Task Category: None Level: Error Keywords: Classic User: N/A Computer: R2D2 Description: The target file for the Windows Feedback Platform (a DLL file containing the list of problems on this computer that require additional data collection for diagnosis) could not be parsed. The error code was 8014FFF9. Event Xml: <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event"> <System> <Provider Name="WerSvc" /> <EventID Qualifiers="49152">5007</EventID> <Level>2</Level> <Task>0</Task> <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords> <TimeCreated SystemTime="2007-07-28T10:41:46.000Z" /> <EventRecordID>2158</EventRecordID> <Channel>Application</Channel> <Computer>R2D2</Computer> <Security /> </System> <EventData> <Data>8014FFF9</Data> </EventData> </Event> Log Name: Application Source: WerSvc Date: 28/07/2007 6:41:46 AM Event ID: 5007 Task Category: None Level: Error Keywords: Classic User: N/A Computer: R2D2 Description: The target file for the Windows Feedback Platform (a DLL file containing the list of problems on this computer that require additional data collection for diagnosis) could not be parsed. The error code was 8014FFF9. Event Xml: <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event"> <System> <Provider Name="WerSvc" /> <EventID Qualifiers="49152">5007</EventID> <Level>2</Level> <Task>0</Task> <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords> <TimeCreated SystemTime="2007-07-28T10:41:46.000Z" /> <EventRecordID>2158</EventRecordID> <Channel>Application</Channel> <Computer>R2D2</Computer> <Security /> </System> <EventData> <Data>8014FFF9</Data> </EventData> </Event> Log Name: Application Source: SideBySide Date: 28/07/2007 6:41:51 AM Event ID: 33 Task Category: None Level: Error Keywords: Classic User: N/A Computer: R2D2 Description: Activation context generation failed for "M:\Program Files\ATI\CIM\Bin\Setup.exe". Dependent Assembly Microsoft.VC80.MFC,processorArchitecture="x86",publicKeyToken="1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b",type="win32",version="8.0.50608.0" could not be found. Please use sxstrace.exe for detailed diagnosis. Event Xml: <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event"> <System> <Provider Name="SideBySide" /> <EventID Qualifiers="49409">33</EventID> <Level>2</Level> <Task>0</Task> <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords> <TimeCreated SystemTime="2007-07-28T10:41:51.000Z" /> <EventRecordID>2160</EventRecordID> <Channel>Application</Channel> <Computer>R2D2</Computer> <Security /> </System> <EventData> <Data>Microsoft.VC80.MFC,processorArchitecture="x86",publicKeyToken="1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b",type="win32",version="8.0.50608.0"</Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> <Data>M:\Program Files\ATI\CIM\Bin\Setup.exe</Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> </EventData> </Event> Log Name: Application Source: Application Error Date: 28/07/2007 6:42:14 AM Event ID: 1000 Task Category: (100) Level: Error Keywords: Classic User: N/A Computer: R2D2 Description: Faulting application Explorer.EXE, version 6.0.6000.16386, time stamp 0x4549b091, faulting module Explorer.EXE, version 6.0.6000.16386, time stamp 0x4549b091, exception code 0xc0000005, fault offset 0x00049fa2, process id 0xcbc, application start time 0x01c7d103c54211a3. Event Xml: <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event"> <System> <Provider Name="Application Error" /> <EventID Qualifiers="0">1000</EventID> <Level>2</Level> <Task>100</Task> <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords> <TimeCreated SystemTime="2007-07-28T10:42:14.000Z" /> <EventRecordID>2162</EventRecordID> <Channel>Application</Channel> <Computer>R2D2</Computer> <Security /> </System> <EventData> <Data>Explorer.EXE</Data> <Data>6.0.6000.16386</Data> <Data>4549b091</Data> <Data>Explorer.EXE</Data> <Data>6.0.6000.16386</Data> <Data>4549b091</Data> <Data>c0000005</Data> <Data>00049fa2</Data> <Data>cbc</Data> <Data>01c7d103c54211a3</Data> </EventData> </Event> Log Name: Application Source: SideBySide Date: 28/07/2007 6:42:37 AM Event ID: 33 Task Category: None Level: Error Keywords: Classic User: N/A Computer: R2D2 Description: Activation context generation failed for "M:\Program Files\ATI\CIM\Bin\Setup.exe". Dependent Assembly Microsoft.VC80.MFC,processorArchitecture="x86",publicKeyToken="1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b",type="win32",version="8.0.50608.0" could not be found. Please use sxstrace.exe for detailed diagnosis. Event Xml: <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event"> <System> <Provider Name="SideBySide" /> <EventID Qualifiers="49409">33</EventID> <Level>2</Level> <Task>0</Task> <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords> <TimeCreated SystemTime="2007-07-28T10:42:37.000Z" /> <EventRecordID>2165</EventRecordID> <Channel>Application</Channel> <Computer>R2D2</Computer> <Security /> </System> <EventData> <Data>Microsoft.VC80.MFC,processorArchitecture="x86",publicKeyToken="1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b",type="win32",version="8.0.50608.0"</Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> <Data>M:\Program Files\ATI\CIM\Bin\Setup.exe</Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> <Data> </Data> </EventData> </Event> -- Peter Toronto, Canada "MowGreen [MVP]" <mowgreen@nowandzen.com> wrote in message news:Oe4hlwU0HHA.6072@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > What Events are showing, Peter ? That would determine whether you should > uninstall it or not. > Frankly, the lack of documentation in regards to KB936357 is why I did not > allow it to install on either of my systems. > Since neither system has the CPUs listed in the KB article ... the updates > were hidden. > > MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007] > =============== > *-343-* FDNY > Never Forgotten > =============== > > > Peter wrote: > >> I haven't had any problems except perhaps an increase in red alerts in my >> Event Viewer from 1 or 2 to 4 or 5/day, but that could be other factors. >> My concern is that I allowed it in to both my XP Pros and my Vista >> Ultimate (I triple boot) and I have a mere Pentium 4 HT @ 3ghz...not a >> Core-2 Duo etc. etc. >> Should I uninstall it or leave it? >> The wording of the KB is nebulous saying Intel processors, particularly >> Core-2 Duo. so should I be concerned or not? >>
Guest Peter Posted July 28, 2007 Posted July 28, 2007 P.S. It was that "processor architecture" something or other that got me wondering. -- Peter Toronto, Canada "MowGreen [MVP]" <mowgreen@nowandzen.com> wrote in message news:Oe4hlwU0HHA.6072@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > What Events are showing, Peter ? That would determine whether you should > uninstall it or not. > Frankly, the lack of documentation in regards to KB936357 is why I did not > allow it to install on either of my systems. > Since neither system has the CPUs listed in the KB article ... the updates > were hidden. > > MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007] > =============== > *-343-* FDNY > Never Forgotten > =============== > > > Peter wrote: > >> I haven't had any problems except perhaps an increase in red alerts in my >> Event Viewer from 1 or 2 to 4 or 5/day, but that could be other factors. >> My concern is that I allowed it in to both my XP Pros and my Vista >> Ultimate (I triple boot) and I have a mere Pentium 4 HT @ 3ghz...not a >> Core-2 Duo etc. etc. >> Should I uninstall it or leave it? >> The wording of the KB is nebulous saying Intel processors, particularly >> Core-2 Duo. so should I be concerned or not? >>
Guest Peter Posted July 29, 2007 Posted July 29, 2007 I've uninstalled that update on instruction from Microsoft Update Support and those errors persist so obviously there is another problem. -- Peter Toronto, Canada "Peter" <ex_brit@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:OBALUMV0HHA.5772@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > P.S. It was that "processor architecture" something or other that got me > wondering. > > -- > Peter > Toronto, Canada > "MowGreen [MVP]" <mowgreen@nowandzen.com> wrote in message > news:Oe4hlwU0HHA.6072@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> What Events are showing, Peter ? That would determine whether you should >> uninstall it or not. >> Frankly, the lack of documentation in regards to KB936357 is why I did >> not allow it to install on either of my systems. >> Since neither system has the CPUs listed in the KB article ... the >> updates were hidden. >> >> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007] >> =============== >> *-343-* FDNY >> Never Forgotten >> =============== >> >> >> Peter wrote: >> >>> I haven't had any problems except perhaps an increase in red alerts in >>> my Event Viewer from 1 or 2 to 4 or 5/day, but that could be other >>> factors. >>> My concern is that I allowed it in to both my XP Pros and my Vista >>> Ultimate (I triple boot) and I have a mere Pentium 4 HT @ 3ghz...not a >>> Core-2 Duo etc. etc. >>> Should I uninstall it or leave it? >>> The wording of the KB is nebulous saying Intel processors, particularly >>> Core-2 Duo. so should I be concerned or not? >>> >
Guest MowGreen [MVP] Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 The only thing I see that *might* be the source of the issue is: > Log Name: Application > Source: SideBySide > Date: 28/07/2007 6:42:37 AM > Event ID: 33 > Task Category: None > Level: Error > Keywords: Classic > User: N/A > Computer: R2D2 > Description: > Activation context generation failed for "M:\Program Files\ATI\CIM\Bin\Setup.exe". > Dependent Assembly Microsoft.VC80.MFC,processorArchitecture="x86",publicKeyToken=" > 1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b",type="win32",version="8.0.50608.0" could not be found. Please use > sxstrace.exe for detailed diagnosis. Read this blog about sxstrace.exe in Vista and perhaps you'll be able to find out just where the issue stems from: http://blogs.msdn.com/junfeng/archive/2006/04/14/576314.aspx Are the latest Vista compatible drivers installed for the ATI card ? MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007] =============== *-343-* FDNY Never Forgotten =============== Peter wrote: > I've uninstalled that update on instruction from Microsoft Update > Support and those errors persist so obviously there is another problem. >
Guest Peter Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 Yes, I have the latest drivers for my card but lately (since AMD takeover) their drivers haven't been quite as reliable as they used to be. Since Microsoft Support got in touch with me I've uninstalled that update and hidden it, and now have no such errors. The odd yellow alert here and there nothing serious. Thanks, I'll read that link in case. -) -- Peter Toronto, Canada "MowGreen [MVP]" <mowgreen@nowandzen.com> wrote in message news:ufbBFPt0HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > The only thing I see that *might* be the source of the issue is: >> Log Name: Application >> Source: SideBySide >> Date: 28/07/2007 6:42:37 AM >> Event ID: 33 >> Task Category: None >> Level: Error >> Keywords: Classic >> User: N/A >> Computer: R2D2 >> Description: >> Activation context generation failed for "M:\Program >> Files\ATI\CIM\Bin\Setup.exe". Dependent Assembly >> Microsoft.VC80.MFC,processorArchitecture="x86",publicKeyToken=" >> 1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b",type="win32",version="8.0.50608.0" could not be found. >> Please use sxstrace.exe for detailed diagnosis. > > Read this blog about sxstrace.exe in Vista and perhaps you'll be able to > find out just where the issue stems from: > http://blogs.msdn.com/junfeng/archive/2006/04/14/576314.aspx > > Are the latest Vista compatible drivers installed for the ATI card ? > > > MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007] > =============== > *-343-* FDNY > Never Forgotten > =============== > > > > Peter wrote: > >> I've uninstalled that update on instruction from Microsoft Update Support >> and those errors persist so obviously there is another problem. >>
Guest MowGreen [MVP] Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 It's really a pity that KB936357 was pushed out without adequate information as to just WHY it was being offered for CPUs not included in the list on the KB article. Frankly, I would NEVER install an update that does not offer a sufficient explanation as to just WHY the update should be installed. And the beat goes on ... <w> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007] =============== *-343-* FDNY Never Forgotten =============== Peter wrote: > Yes, I have the latest drivers for my card but lately (since AMD > takeover) their drivers haven't been quite as reliable as they used to be. > Since Microsoft Support got in touch with me I've uninstalled that > update and hidden it, and now have no such errors. > The odd yellow alert here and there nothing serious. > Thanks, I'll read that link in case. -)
Guest Peter Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 From now on my updates are set to notify me first and then download once I've okayed them. However...those side-by-side ATI/VC80 errors started reappearing this morning...I'm giving up on it. As long as the darned machine works I don't care. Thanks. -- Peter Toronto, Canada "MowGreen [MVP]" <mowgreen@nowandzen.com> wrote in message news:OrHtZ640HHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > It's really a pity that KB936357 was pushed out without adequate > information as to just WHY it was being offered for CPUs not included in > the list on the KB article. > Frankly, I would NEVER install an update that does not offer a sufficient > explanation as to just WHY the update should be installed. > > And the beat goes on ... <w> > > MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007] > =============== > *-343-* FDNY > Never Forgotten > =============== > > > > Peter wrote: > >> Yes, I have the latest drivers for my card but lately (since AMD >> takeover) their drivers haven't been quite as reliable as they used to >> be. >> Since Microsoft Support got in touch with me I've uninstalled that update >> and hidden it, and now have no such errors. >> The odd yellow alert here and there nothing serious. >> Thanks, I'll read that link in case. -)
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