Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 Hopefully, Eric [MSFT] will be able to make sense of this from the windowsupdate.log that you and others sent him. -- ~PA Bear Cj,,,,,+ wrote: > to : PA Bear [MS MVP] and others,,,, back when IE7 was released for > distribution, the JScript and VBScript were included,,, > > is it possible that when people downloaded and installed other software,, > eg: VisualBasic that the mods were overlaid,,????,,, I have been using > IE7 > and installing all update as released,,,, and until yesterday > (04-08-2008) > had not noticed JScript or VBScript issues,,,, however,,, after > downloading the JScript v 5.7 release date(08/24/2007) the underlying > issues go away, with MSupdate,,, > > so,, give some thought, to the workaround,,,, > > again,,,, Thank you,,,, Cj,,,,,+ > > > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: > >> The point is that you should already have Vbscript.dll and Jscript.dll >> v5.7 >> if IE7 is installed. We're trying to figure out why you all still >> have/had >> v5.6. >> -- >> ~PA Bear >> >> Cj.... wrote: >>> If you go to the Microsoft Download and download JSCRIPT V5.7 from >>> release >>> date 8/24/2007,,, and install it then has JScript 5.7 and VBScript >>> 5.7,,, >>> and then run windowsupdate,,, problem goes away,,,,, so,,, hope this >>> helps,,, thank you,,, Cj.... >>> >>> "MowGreen [MVP]" wrote: >>> >>>> Cj, >>>> >>>> Please comply with PABear's request. A resolution to this issue will be >>>> posted in this newsgroup, not by private emails to individuals : >>>> >>>>> Attach %windir%/windowsupdate.log <=this file to an email message to >>>>> ericbrod@microsoft.com. >>>>> >>>>> Give the email the following subject: "error 0x8007F0F4 when >>>>> installing >>>>> update KB944338" >>>> >>>> To open the WindowsUpdate.log go to Start > Run > copy and paste the >>>> below into the Open: line and then click OK or press Enter >>>> >>>> %windir%\windowsupdate.log >>>> >>>> Thanks ! >>>> >>>> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008] >>>> =============== >>>> *-343-* FDNY >>>> Never Forgotten >>>> =============== >>>> >>>> >>>> Cj wrote: >>>> >>>>> will stop trying other attempts until I receive an answer to the >>>>> problem, >>>>> it >>>>> seems to be a Microsoft issue,,,, please send an email when it is >>>>> resolved,, >>>>> thank you,, Cj >>>>> >>>>> "Cj" wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> am having the same issues,,,, IE7, and 5.6 for JScript and >>>>>> VBScript,, >>>>>> for HOT FIX for KB944338,,,, have tried 3+ times,, all same >>>>>> results,, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "PA Bear [MS-MVP]" wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> It appears browser detection has a problem. OS xpsp2, browser 7.0 >>>>>>>> I have opened ticket with support. Anybody else seeing this? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please keep us posted on what PSS might have to say, Shawn. >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> ~PA Bear >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 8, 4:10 pm, shawnr <sha...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Repeated attempts to install this update from MS updates result in >>>>>>>> error code 0x8007F0F4. I have not tried through WSUS yet. >>>>>>>> KB944338.log: >>>>>>>> C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\Download\77a3382edfdc03e5fb59ec5858f5073e\uÂÂpdate\update.exe >>>>>>>> (version 6.2.29.0) >>>>>>>> 1.109: Hotfix started with following command line: /si >>>>>>>> /ParentInfo:bb999d44bb8b9647ae1f5a977943f5ed >>>>>>>> 1.109: FileVersion of C:\Program Files\internet >>>>>>>> explorer\iexplore.exe >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> Greater or Equal To 7.0.0.0 >>>>>>>> 1.109: Condition Check for Line 1 of PreRequisite returned FALSE >>>>>>>> 1.109: KB944338 Setup encountered an error: The version of >>>>>>>> Internet >>>>>>>> Explorer you have installed does not match the update you are >>>>>>>> trying >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> install. >>>>>>>> 1.109: The version of Internet Explorer you have installed does not >>>>>>>> match >>>>>>>> the update you are trying to install. >>>>>>>> 1.109: Update.exe extended error code = 0xf0f4 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It appears browser detection has a problem. OS xpsp2, browser 7.0 >>>>>>>> I have opened ticket with support. Anybody else seeing this?
Guest DAWKCoDave Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 I have WinXP SP2 w/ IE7. Vbscript.dll is v 5.6.0.8825 and jscript.dll is v 5.6.0.8831 (in C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32). Now what?! Dave Kelly "Harry Johnston [MVP]" wrote: > shawnr wrote: > > > both are ver 5.6. > > Did you check the version of the actual DLL files, or just the installed version > of VBScript/Javascript? (Normally you'd expect them to be the same, but that > isn't true in this case.) > > You can check the file version by navigating to c:\windows\system32, selecting > jscript.dll, right-clicking, selecting Properties, and going to the Version tab. > Please let us know the full version number, and also the modification date and > file size in bytes. > > The reason I ask is that IE7 includes version 5.7.0.5730 of jscript.dll and > vbscript.dll, so it shouldn't be possible to have version 5.6 if IE7 is installed. > > Harry. >
Guest DAWKCoDave Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 Thanks Cj.....+! Downloading JScript v5.7 from the Windows Downloads site worked here too. Now, why couldn't that have been the update provided through the Windows Update site? (just a rhetorical question) Dave Kelly "Cj.....+" wrote: > If you go to the Microsoft Download and download JSCRIPT V5.7 from release > date 8/24/2007,,, and install it then has JScript 5.7 and VBScript 5.7,,, > and then run windowsupdate,,, problem goes away,,,,, so,,, hope this > helps,,, thank you,,, Cj.... > > JScript version is 5.7.0.16535 after the install,, and > VBscript version is also 5.7.0.16535 after the install,,,, I think the > problem is fixed > > thank you,,,,, Cj.....+ > > "Harry Johnston [MVP]" wrote: > > > shawnr wrote: > > > > > both are ver 5.6. > > > > Did you check the version of the actual DLL files, or just the installed version > > of VBScript/Javascript? (Normally you'd expect them to be the same, but that > > isn't true in this case.) > > > > You can check the file version by navigating to c:\windows\system32, selecting > > jscript.dll, right-clicking, selecting Properties, and going to the Version tab. > > Please let us know the full version number, and also the modification date and > > file size in bytes. > > > > The reason I ask is that IE7 includes version 5.7.0.5730 of jscript.dll and > > vbscript.dll, so it shouldn't be possible to have version 5.6 if IE7 is installed. > > > > Harry. > >
Guest Julea Bell Posted April 10, 2008 Posted April 10, 2008 Windows Update - KB944338 I'm unable to download and install KB944338. I go to Windows Update and when viewing my history it shows this update failed. I get this when research the update site, but am unable to find anything about it -- error 0x8007F0F4 when installing update KB944338. How does one get this update accomplished? Thanks
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted April 10, 2008 Posted April 10, 2008 Re: Windows Update - KB944338 Windows version? IE version? -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ Julea Bell wrote: > I'm unable to download and install KB944338. I go to Windows Update and > when viewing my history it shows this update failed. > > I get this when research the update site, but am unable to find anything > about it -- error 0x8007F0F4 when installing update KB944338. > > How does one get this update accomplished? > > Thanks
Guest libit Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 Re: Windows Update - KB944338 this update is failing for me too. I've IE 7.0.5730.11 and vbscript 5.6.0.8825. So it seems that the ie7 update didn't always update vbscript, or something else overwrote that with vbscript 5.6 thereafter (visualStudio? ) What's the mircosoft recommend solution for this issue? "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: > Windows version? IE version? > -- > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) > MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 > AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net > DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ > > Julea Bell wrote: > > I'm unable to download and install KB944338. I go to Windows Update and > > when viewing my history it shows this update failed. > > > > I get this when research the update site, but am unable to find anything > > about it -- error 0x8007F0F4 when installing update KB944338. > > > > How does one get this update accomplished? > > > > Thanks >
Guest Harry Johnston [MVP] Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 Re: Windows Update - KB944338 libit wrote: > this update is failing for me too. I've IE 7.0.5730.11 and > vbscript 5.6.0.8825. > So it seems that the ie7 update didn't always update vbscript, or something > else overwrote that with vbscript 5.6 thereafter (visualStudio? ) > > What's the mircosoft recommend solution for this issue? They're still investigating, but at the moment it seems that installing Windows Script 5.7 (which you can get at the download center) is the recommendation. Harry.
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 Try the same recommended fixes. Bill S wrote: > I am having the same problem.
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 Re: Windows Update - KB944338 1. Download/install Windows Script 5.7 for WinXP SP2 (only!): http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=47809025-d896-482e-a0d6-524e7e844d81 2. Then make sure the machine is otherwise fully patched at WIndows Update. -- ~PA Bear libit wrote: > this update is failing for me too. I've IE 7.0.5730.11 and > vbscript 5.6.0.8825. > So it seems that the ie7 update didn't always update vbscript, or > something > else overwrote that with vbscript 5.6 thereafter (visualStudio? ) > > What's the mircosoft recommend solution for this issue? > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: > >> Windows version? IE version? >> -- >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 >> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net >> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ >> >> Julea Bell wrote: >>> I'm unable to download and install KB944338. I go to Windows Update and >>> when viewing my history it shows this update failed. >>> >>> I get this when research the update site, but am unable to find anything >>> about it -- error 0x8007F0F4 when installing update KB944338. >>> >>> How does one get this update accomplished? >>> >>> Thanks
Guest libit Posted April 13, 2008 Posted April 13, 2008 Updating to VBscript 5.7 "solved" for me, in the sense that now the patch is not shown as a required anymore. However this brings up the following question: If this fix doesn't work for people with vbscript 5.6 and is not necessary for people with vbscript 5.7, what's its reason to exist, if any at all ???? "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: > Try the same recommended fixes. > > Bill S wrote: > > I am having the same problem. >
Guest Bravo 3-1 Posted April 13, 2008 Posted April 13, 2008 Re: Windows Update - KB944338 PA Bear, I'm having the same problems with IE 7.0.5730.13, and vbscript.dll/Jscript.dll 5.6.0.8820. All other updates have been applied. I will try the suggested fix after I send the appropriate file to Eric as you asked. -- United States Army ROTC, Fighting Flyers Battalion "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: > Windows version? IE version? > -- > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) > MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 > AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net > DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ > > Julea Bell wrote: > > I'm unable to download and install KB944338. I go to Windows Update and > > when viewing my history it shows this update failed. > > > > I get this when research the update site, but am unable to find anything > > about it -- error 0x8007F0F4 when installing update KB944338. > > > > How does one get this update accomplished? > > > > Thanks >
Guest Harry Johnston [MVP] Posted April 13, 2008 Posted April 13, 2008 libit wrote: > However this brings up the following question: > If this fix doesn't work for people with vbscript 5.6 and is not necessary > for people with vbscript 5.7, what's its reason to exist, if any at all ???? The patch is intended for systems with neither Internet Explorer 7 nor Windows Script 5.7 installed. If neither of these are present, the patch works. (The problem occurs when IE7 is present but the Windows Script 5.7 components it includes are not this situation shouldn't happen, and seems to have been unanticipated.) Harry.
Guest graft Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Re: Windows Update - KB944338 Wi have the same Problem with over 100 computers in our company. Installing Script 5.7 is no solution.. it's only a workaround for a single computer. MS must fix this Patch! Thx "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: > 1. Download/install Windows Script 5.7 for WinXP SP2 (only!): > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=47809025-d896-482e-a0d6-524e7e844d81 > > 2. Then make sure the machine is otherwise fully patched at WIndows Update. > -- > ~PA Bear > > libit wrote: > > this update is failing for me too. I've IE 7.0.5730.11 and > > vbscript 5.6.0.8825. > > So it seems that the ie7 update didn't always update vbscript, or > > something > > else overwrote that with vbscript 5.6 thereafter (visualStudio? ) > > > > What's the mircosoft recommend solution for this issue? > > > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: > > > >> Windows version? IE version? > >> -- > >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) > >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 > >> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net > >> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ > >> > >> Julea Bell wrote: > >>> I'm unable to download and install KB944338. I go to Windows Update and > >>> when viewing my history it shows this update failed. > >>> > >>> I get this when research the update site, but am unable to find anything > >>> about it -- error 0x8007F0F4 when installing update KB944338. > >>> > >>> How does one get this update accomplished? > >>> > >>> Thanks > >
Guest Raillon Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Re: Windows Update - KB944338 While I agree that it would be best for MS to fix its fix, and that installing Windows Script 5.7 is a workaround, deploying Windows Script can be done through automated deployment tools. An example for SMS 2003, without sms_def.mof extended to allow IE version detection through registry key: 1. Make sure that Software Inventory is set to gather exe details in at least C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer. 2. Make sure that Software Inventory is set to gather dll details in at least C:\Windows\System32. 3. Set up a query-based collection to detect for iexplore.exe (at C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer) >= version 7, with jscript.dll or vbscript.dll (at C:\Windows\System32) with version < 5.6.0.8355. Here's the Query Language code: select distinct SMS_R_System.Name from SMS_R_System inner join SMS_G_System_SoftwareFile on SMS_G_System_SoftwareFile.ResourceID = SMS_R_System.ResourceId where (SMS_G_System_SoftwareFile.FileName = "jscript.dll" or SMS_G_System_SoftwareFile.FileName = "vbscript.dll") and SMS_G_System_SoftwareFile.FileVersion < "5.6.0.8835" and SMS_G_System_SoftwareFile.FilePath = "C:\\WINDOWS\\system32\\" and SMS_R_System.Name in (select SMS_R_System.Name from SMS_R_System inner join SMS_G_System_SoftwareFile on SMS_G_System_SoftwareFile.ResourceID = SMS_R_System.ResourceId where SMS_G_System_SoftwareFile.FileName = "iexplore.exe" and SMS_G_System_SoftwareFile.FileVersion >= "7" and SMS_G_System_SoftwareFile.FilePath = "C:\\Program Files\\Internet Explorer\\") That will show which computers fall into the IE7 vs KB944338 hole. You may want to use a separate collection for each affected OS. Then use Software Distribution to apply Windows Script 5.7 to all the affected computers by OS. One of our techs also has a theory that some 3rd party installs may actually downgrade jscript.dll and/or vbscript.dll from 5.7 to 5.6 after an IE7 install. I haven't yet been able to prove nor disprove this theory. If it's true, then I especially would like for MS to fix KB944338's detection/deployment logic so I don't have to leave a Windows Script 5.7 advertisement active in our SMS to cover this hole. "graft" wrote: > Wi have the same Problem with over 100 computers in our company. > Installing Script 5.7 is no solution.. it's only a workaround for a single > computer. > > MS must fix this Patch! > > Thx
Guest Harry Johnston [MVP] Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Re: Windows Update - KB944338 graft wrote: > Wi have the same Problem with over 100 computers in our company. > Installing Script 5.7 is no solution.. it's only a workaround for a single > computer. > > MS must fix this Patch! There isn't actually a problem with the patch the problem (mismatched components) was already present on your computers, the patch just revealed it. The cause of the problem is currently unknown, but theories include third-party anti-malware software preventing system components from being updated during the IE7 install and third-party installers downgrading the components afterwards. (I favour the latter theory but more experienced experts seem to prefer the former, so YMMV.) Hopefully Microsoft will release an automated fix at some point, either via this patch or an IE7 patch. But as it is likely to take some time, you may prefer to deploy Script 5.7 either via a solution like SMS (as Raillon describes) or with a startup script, or (failing all else) by brute force. How do you deploy third-party software updates? Harry.
Guest graft Posted April 15, 2008 Posted April 15, 2008 Re: Windows Update - KB944338 "Harry Johnston [MVP]" wrote: > graft wrote: > > > Wi have the same Problem with over 100 computers in our company. > > Installing Script 5.7 is no solution.. it's only a workaround for a single > > computer. > > > > MS must fix this Patch! > > There isn't actually a problem with the patch the problem (mismatched > components) was already present on your computers, the patch just revealed it. > > The cause of the problem is currently unknown, but theories include third-party > anti-malware software preventing system components from being updated during the > IE7 install and third-party installers downgrading the components afterwards. > (I favour the latter theory but more experienced experts seem to prefer the > former, so YMMV.) I have found the source of my problems. I have installed Windows Script 5.6 manually on these machine due to Problems with the installation of another software. I know since thursday last week that an newer version of Windows Script (5.7) exist. Was it my error? Was it the error from Windows Script 5.6 to install over an newer Version? Is it the error in Patch KB944338? I think it's not my error! > Hopefully Microsoft will release an automated fix at some point, either via this > patch or an IE7 patch. But as it is likely to take some time, you may prefer to > deploy Script 5.7 either via a solution like SMS (as Raillon describes) or with > a startup script, or (failing all else) by brute force. How do you deploy > third-party software updates? > > Harry. >
Guest Raillon Posted April 15, 2008 Posted April 15, 2008 Re: Windows Update - KB944338 "graft" wrote: > > I have found the source of my problems. I have installed Windows Script 5.6 > manually on these machine due to Problems with the installation of another > software. I know since thursday last week that an newer version of Windows > Script (5.7) exist. > Was it my error? Was it the error from Windows Script 5.6 to install over an > newer Version? Is it the error in Patch KB944338? > > I think it's not my error! > Thank you, graft - I didn't even think about testing the installation of Windows Script 5.6 over jscript.dll/vbscript.dll 5.7. It turns out this DOES successfully downgrade these dlls to 5.6 - in fact, this even happens if Windows Script 5.7 was previously directly installed. > "Harry Johnston [MVP]" wrote: > > > > > There isn't actually a problem with the patch the problem (mismatched > > components) was already present on your computers, the patch just revealed it. > > > > The cause of the problem is currently unknown, but theories include third-party > > anti-malware software preventing system components from being updated during the > > IE7 install and third-party installers downgrading the components afterwards. > > (I favour the latter theory but more experienced experts seem to prefer the > > former, so YMMV.) graft's information and my confirmation show that jscript.dll/vbscript.dll can indeed be downgraded from 5.7 to 5.6, so your theory is shown to be possible, Harry. However, I do agree with graft that MS is at fault here - by not allowing the exe to apply when IE7 and jscript.dll/vbscript.dll 5.6 are present, and not even giving a correctly-informative error message, it leaves the end-user in confusion as to what to do. If MS protected jscript.dll/vbscript.dll from downgrading (at least from 5.7 when IE7 is present), this situation could have been avoided. However, the downgrading is not prevented, so MS should have included this possible situation in KB944338's exe's logic. If the error message from KB944338's exe indicated that with IE7, Windows Script should also be 5.7, and is not, then the end-user would know what to do. As it is, with this oversight I must leave automated detection of IE and Windows Script version (with upgrade of Windows Script when needed) constant in my environment, lest Windows Script be downgraded by other installs, leaving a security hole in which KB944338 cannot be applied.
Guest Harry Johnston [MVP] Posted April 16, 2008 Posted April 16, 2008 Re: Windows Update - KB944338 Raillon wrote: > If MS protected > jscript.dll/vbscript.dll from downgrading (at least from 5.7 when IE7 is > present), this situation could have been avoided. Yes, this is certainly a bug in the Windows Script 5.6 installer. > [...] so MS should have included this possible situation in > KB944338's exe's logic. If the error message from KB944338's exe indicated > that with IE7, Windows Script should also be 5.7, and is not, then the > end-user would know what to do. Sure, but this situation was not anticipated. > As it is, with this oversight I must leave automated detection of IE and > Windows Script version (with upgrade of Windows Script when needed) constant > in my environment, lest Windows Script be downgraded by other installs, > leaving a security hole in which KB944338 cannot be applied. Hopefully there will eventually be a better resolution. However, assuming the downgrade does not happen frequently, you could use the failure of KB944338 as a warning sign to identify those machines that need assistance. Harry.
Guest Raillon Posted April 16, 2008 Posted April 16, 2008 Re: Windows Update - KB944338 Harry, thank you for your continued conversation on this. A few more thoughts: "Harry Johnston [MVP]" wrote: > Yes, this is certainly a bug in the Windows Script 5.6 installer. I'm not sure it's just the Windows Script 5.6 installer - it appears that jscript.dll/vbscript.dll 5.7 can be overwritten with older versions from any installer. I'm not absolutely sure this is a bug - it may be by design. > Sure, but this situation was not anticipated. Agreed - however, since we've discovered the situation, I do hope it will be corrected. I also expect that this situation will be anticipated in future updates where its relevant. > ...you could use the failure of KB944338 as a > warning sign to identify those machines that need assistance. I do have automated notification from my WSUS, however, I am not comfortable with relying solely on manual response - we can get overwhelmed with other items and not be able to quickly resolve each case. Though we always check on machines that report WSUS failures (unless we're overwhelmed), with the automated detection/application (and re-application if needed) of Windows Script 5.7, I am better covered, especially since - in this case - a compliant machine can suddenly become non-compliant due to an unrelated install.
Guest 4194dave Posted April 20, 2008 Posted April 20, 2008 i am having the same problem i re-installed windows service pack 2 but that didnt fix the problem my next option is going to be to contact my computer's manufacturer perhaps that will be helpful to you -when i ran a diagnostic test on this problem that is what i was told to do "shawnr" wrote: > Repeated attempts to install this update from MS updates result in error code > 0x8007F0F4. I have not tried through WSUS yet. > KB944338.log: > C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\Download\77a3382edfdc03e5fb59ec5858f5073e\update\update.exe (version 6.2.29.0) > 1.109: Hotfix started with following command line: /si > /ParentInfo:bb999d44bb8b9647ae1f5a977943f5ed > 1.109: FileVersion of C:\Program Files\internet explorer\iexplore.exe is > Greater or Equal To 7.0.0.0 > 1.109: Condition Check for Line 1 of PreRequisite returned FALSE > 1.109: KB944338 Setup encountered an error: The version of Internet > Explorer you have installed does not match the update you are trying to > install. > 1.109: The version of Internet Explorer you have installed does not match > the update you are trying to install. > 1.109: Update.exe extended error code = 0xf0f4 > > It appears browser detection has a problem. OS xpsp2, browser 7.0 > I have opened ticket with support. Anybody else seeing this?
Guest chanceu Posted April 24, 2008 Posted April 24, 2008 You say it's impossible, but I too am running XP SP2 with IE version 7.0.5730.11, jscript.dll version 5.6.0.8831, and vbscript.dll version 5.6.0.8825. From what I've read, I have no doubt that installing the package you describe will fix the problem. However, I would really like an explanation detailing how this happened. This is either something malicious or we all installed something reverted the DLL's to 5.6 instead of leaving the newer versions in place. "Harry Johnston [MVP]" wrote: > shawnr wrote: > > > both are ver 5.6. > > Did you check the version of the actual DLL files, or just the installed version > of VBScript/Javascript? (Normally you'd expect them to be the same, but that > isn't true in this case.) > > You can check the file version by navigating to c:\windows\system32, selecting > jscript.dll, right-clicking, selecting Properties, and going to the Version tab. > Please let us know the full version number, and also the modification date and > file size in bytes. > > The reason I ask is that IE7 includes version 5.7.0.5730 of jscript.dll and > vbscript.dll, so it shouldn't be possible to have version 5.6 if IE7 is installed. > > Harry. >
Guest Harry Johnston [MVP] Posted April 26, 2008 Posted April 26, 2008 chanceu wrote: > You say it's impossible, but I too am running XP SP2 with IE version > 7.0.5730.11, jscript.dll version 5.6.0.8831, and vbscript.dll version > 5.6.0.8825. No, I said it shouldn't be possible - not quite the same thing! It's easy enough to reproduce. > From what I've read, I have no doubt that installing the package you > describe will fix the problem. However, I would really like an explanation > detailing how this happened. One known way for this to happen is to install IE7 and then Windows Script 5.6. I suspect third-party software installers incorporating Windows Script 5.6. It could also be the result of security products preventing the files from being updated when IE7 is installed. Harry.
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted April 26, 2008 Posted April 26, 2008 The most likely cause of this behavior (i.e., installing IE7 without Windows Script 5.7 also being installed) is due to not having disabled all real-time protections prior to installing IE7. Sandi's Installation Tips <= Steps #1-8, #10 & #11 take note of #12, then STOP http://www.ie-vista.com/known_issues.html#pre-install IEBlog : IE7 Installation and Anti-Malware Applications http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/10/11/IE7-Installation-and-Anti_2D00_Malware-Applications.aspx IMHO this is yet another reason why IE7 should *never* have been offered by Windows Update except as an Optional (i.e., user must opt-in) update. -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ chanceu wrote: > You say it's impossible, but I too am running XP SP2 with IE version > 7.0.5730.11, jscript.dll version 5.6.0.8831, and vbscript.dll version > 5.6.0.8825. > > From what I've read, I have no doubt that installing the package you > describe will fix the problem. However, I would really like an explanation > detailing how this happened. This is either something malicious or we all > installed something reverted the DLL's to 5.6 instead of leaving the newer > versions in place. > > > "Harry Johnston [MVP]" wrote: > >> shawnr wrote: >> >>> both are ver 5.6. >> >> Did you check the version of the actual DLL files, or just the installed >> version of VBScript/Javascript? (Normally you'd expect them to be the >> same, but that isn't true in this case.) >> >> You can check the file version by navigating to c:\windows\system32, >> selecting jscript.dll, right-clicking, selecting Properties, and going to >> the Version tab. Please let us know the full version number, and also >> the modification date and file size in bytes. >> >> The reason I ask is that IE7 includes version 5.7.0.5730 of jscript.dll >> and >> vbscript.dll, so it shouldn't be possible to have version 5.6 if IE7 is >> installed. >> >> Harry.
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