Guest IT Lite Posted July 8, 2008 Posted July 8, 2008 I got notified of 3 updates by MS KB951748, KB951978, and the MRT monthly. I faithfully downloaded and installed all 3. After reboot, I could not get back onto the Web. Since KB951748, KB951978 are both IE security updates, I uninstalled them both, re-booted and was graciously let back on the Web. Of course MS wanted me to intall them, so sent another gold shield to let me know. Instead of re-installing both, I first re-installed KB951978, re-booted, and still got back on the Web, but when I re-installed KB951748, again, neither my FireFox 3 or IE 7 could browse, so uninstalled KB951748. Do anyone think MS will fix that "fix" to actually allow use of IE? Or what settings must I fiddle with to make my sytems work with the KB951748? The same thing happened identically on 2 XP Pro SP3 systems, and I followed the same install - uninstall procedure of the security updates. They both work withOUT the KB951748 uninstalled. Thanks, John
Guest Macc_eye Posted July 8, 2008 Posted July 8, 2008 Hi IT Lite Same problem here. Are you running Zone Alarm. If so turn it off and you can access the internet with all updates installed. in the meantime we await microsoft to fix the problem. regards Tony (Macc_Eye) "IT Lite" wrote: > I got notified of 3 updates by MS KB951748, KB951978, and the MRT monthly. > I faithfully downloaded and installed all 3. After reboot, I could not get > back onto the Web. Since KB951748, KB951978 are both IE security updates, I > uninstalled them both, re-booted and was graciously let back on the Web. Of > course MS wanted me to intall them, so sent another gold shield to let me > know. Instead of re-installing both, I first re-installed KB951978, > re-booted, and still got back on the Web, but when I re-installed KB951748, > again, neither my FireFox 3 or IE 7 could browse, so uninstalled KB951748. > > Do anyone think MS will fix that "fix" to actually allow use of IE? Or what > settings must I fiddle with to make my sytems work with the KB951748? > > The same thing happened identically on 2 XP Pro SP3 systems, and I followed > the same install - uninstall procedure of the security updates. They both > work withOUT the KB951748 uninstalled. > > Thanks, > John > > >
Guest Macc_eye Posted July 8, 2008 Posted July 8, 2008 Hi IT Lite again Thanks. I also have just uninstalled KB951748 following your advice and everything is back to normal. I do have the warning shield to warn me not to download this update again. Shame I reinstalled Zone Alarm as I now have to reset all my programs for access. A few weeks back I got caught with the windows defender rogue update. What has happened to Microsoft QC and their testing of updates. How does the average user recover from this one if they lose internet access? How do they download the fix when MS find one? I wonder if MS appreciate the severity of the problem they have created. Thank goodness this forum exists so a thankyou to MS for setting this up. time for a malt whisky methinks to calm the nerves. many thanks Tony aka Macc_Eye DON'T PANIC !! "Macc_eye" wrote: > Hi IT Lite > > Same problem here. Are you running Zone Alarm. If so turn it off and you can > access the internet with all updates installed. > > in the meantime we await microsoft to fix the problem. > > regards > Tony (Macc_Eye) > > "IT Lite" wrote: > > > I got notified of 3 updates by MS KB951748, KB951978, and the MRT monthly. > > I faithfully downloaded and installed all 3. After reboot, I could not get > > back onto the Web. Since KB951748, KB951978 are both IE security updates, I > > uninstalled them both, re-booted and was graciously let back on the Web. Of > > course MS wanted me to intall them, so sent another gold shield to let me > > know. Instead of re-installing both, I first re-installed KB951978, > > re-booted, and still got back on the Web, but when I re-installed KB951748, > > again, neither my FireFox 3 or IE 7 could browse, so uninstalled KB951748. > > > > Do anyone think MS will fix that "fix" to actually allow use of IE? Or what > > settings must I fiddle with to make my sytems work with the KB951748? > > > > The same thing happened identically on 2 XP Pro SP3 systems, and I followed > > the same install - uninstall procedure of the security updates. They both > > work withOUT the KB951748 uninstalled. > > > > Thanks, > > John > > > > > >
Guest Susan Bradley Posted July 8, 2008 Posted July 8, 2008 Because if you use the native built in firewall there's no issues. Every month I can point to tons of issues when third party firewall programs are used. Maybe they just don't have consumer grade testers and focus on the core native stuff of the OS. The average user really should not use Zone Alarm. Macc_eye wrote: > Hi IT Lite again > > Thanks. I also have just uninstalled KB951748 following your advice and > everything is back to normal. I do have the warning shield to warn me not to > download this update again. > Shame I reinstalled Zone Alarm as I now have to reset all my programs for > access. > > A few weeks back I got caught with the windows defender rogue update. What > has happened to Microsoft QC and their testing of updates. > How does the average user recover from this one if they lose internet > access? How do they download the fix when MS find one? > I wonder if MS appreciate the severity of the problem they have created. > Thank goodness this forum exists so a thankyou to MS for setting this up. > > time for a malt whisky methinks to calm the nerves. > > many thanks > Tony aka Macc_Eye > DON'T PANIC !! > > "Macc_eye" wrote: > >> Hi IT Lite >> >> Same problem here. Are you running Zone Alarm. If so turn it off and you can >> access the internet with all updates installed. >> >> in the meantime we await microsoft to fix the problem. >> >> regards >> Tony (Macc_Eye) >> >> "IT Lite" wrote: >> >>> I got notified of 3 updates by MS KB951748, KB951978, and the MRT monthly. >>> I faithfully downloaded and installed all 3. After reboot, I could not get >>> back onto the Web. Since KB951748, KB951978 are both IE security updates, I >>> uninstalled them both, re-booted and was graciously let back on the Web. Of >>> course MS wanted me to intall them, so sent another gold shield to let me >>> know. Instead of re-installing both, I first re-installed KB951978, >>> re-booted, and still got back on the Web, but when I re-installed KB951748, >>> again, neither my FireFox 3 or IE 7 could browse, so uninstalled KB951748. >>> >>> Do anyone think MS will fix that "fix" to actually allow use of IE? Or what >>> settings must I fiddle with to make my sytems work with the KB951748? >>> >>> The same thing happened identically on 2 XP Pro SP3 systems, and I followed >>> the same install - uninstall procedure of the security updates. They both >>> work withOUT the KB951748 uninstalled. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> John >>> >>> >>>
Guest Macc_eye Posted July 8, 2008 Posted July 8, 2008 Susan Good point re Zone Alarm. However not everyone with the internet access problem has mentioned they have zone alarm so the link is not proven yet. I would also add that many computer users who buy the odd computer magazine may not be technically advanced but will install the free zone alarm that comes on the disc because the mags state how much better than the windows firewall it is. It is this category of users that could well be dumped in no-mans land. I only chanced upon this forum when defender update let me down a few weeks back and that is definitely a native windows program. Who else will think to look here and how many will know this forum exists Lets see what happens with Microsoft and Zone Labs. Who will issue a patch first? regards Tony aka Macc_Eye (Don't Panic its only a computer.) "Susan Bradley" wrote: > Because if you use the native built in firewall there's no issues. > > Every month I can point to tons of issues when third party firewall > programs are used. > > Maybe they just don't have consumer grade testers and focus on the core > native stuff of the OS. > > The average user really should not use Zone Alarm. > > > > Macc_eye wrote: > > Hi IT Lite again > > > > Thanks. I also have just uninstalled KB951748 following your advice and > > everything is back to normal. I do have the warning shield to warn me not to > > download this update again. > > Shame I reinstalled Zone Alarm as I now have to reset all my programs for > > access. > > > > A few weeks back I got caught with the windows defender rogue update. What > > has happened to Microsoft QC and their testing of updates. > > How does the average user recover from this one if they lose internet > > access? How do they download the fix when MS find one? > > I wonder if MS appreciate the severity of the problem they have created. > > Thank goodness this forum exists so a thankyou to MS for setting this up. > > > > time for a malt whisky methinks to calm the nerves. > > > > many thanks > > Tony aka Macc_Eye > > DON'T PANIC !! > > > > "Macc_eye" wrote: > > > >> Hi IT Lite > >> > >> Same problem here. Are you running Zone Alarm. If so turn it off and you can > >> access the internet with all updates installed. > >> > >> in the meantime we await microsoft to fix the problem. > >> > >> regards > >> Tony (Macc_Eye) > >> > >> "IT Lite" wrote: > >> > >>> I got notified of 3 updates by MS KB951748, KB951978, and the MRT monthly. > >>> I faithfully downloaded and installed all 3. After reboot, I could not get > >>> back onto the Web. Since KB951748, KB951978 are both IE security updates, I > >>> uninstalled them both, re-booted and was graciously let back on the Web. Of > >>> course MS wanted me to intall them, so sent another gold shield to let me > >>> know. Instead of re-installing both, I first re-installed KB951978, > >>> re-booted, and still got back on the Web, but when I re-installed KB951748, > >>> again, neither my FireFox 3 or IE 7 could browse, so uninstalled KB951748. > >>> > >>> Do anyone think MS will fix that "fix" to actually allow use of IE? Or what > >>> settings must I fiddle with to make my sytems work with the KB951748? > >>> > >>> The same thing happened identically on 2 XP Pro SP3 systems, and I followed > >>> the same install - uninstall procedure of the security updates. They both > >>> work withOUT the KB951748 uninstalled. > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> John > >>> > >>> > >>> >
Guest IT Lite Posted July 8, 2008 Posted July 8, 2008 Macc_eye, I would much rather keep the update uninstalled than kill my Zone Alarm I am on an adsl hot whenever booted up. My ZA is also my anti-virus and spyware killer. John "Macc_eye" <Macceye@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:0BA6B583-0617-4C69-8077-A33BD84C901C@microsoft.com... > Hi IT Lite > > Same problem here. Are you running Zone Alarm. If so turn it off and you > can > access the internet with all updates installed. > > in the meantime we await microsoft to fix the problem. > > regards > Tony (Macc_Eye) > > "IT Lite" wrote: > >> I got notified of 3 updates by MS KB951748, KB951978, and the MRT >> monthly. >> I faithfully downloaded and installed all 3. After reboot, I could not >> get >> back onto the Web. Since KB951748, KB951978 are both IE security updates, >> I >> uninstalled them both, re-booted and was graciously let back on the Web. >> Of >> course MS wanted me to intall them, so sent another gold shield to let me >> know. Instead of re-installing both, I first re-installed KB951978, >> re-booted, and still got back on the Web, but when I re-installed >> KB951748, >> again, neither my FireFox 3 or IE 7 could browse, so uninstalled >> KB951748. >> >> Do anyone think MS will fix that "fix" to actually allow use of IE? Or >> what >> settings must I fiddle with to make my sytems work with the KB951748? >> >> The same thing happened identically on 2 XP Pro SP3 systems, and I >> followed >> the same install - uninstall procedure of the security updates. They both >> work withOUT the KB951748 uninstalled. >> >> Thanks, >> John >> >> >>
Guest Jerry Posted July 8, 2008 Posted July 8, 2008 Don't agree- the average user is better off using Zone Alarm then any other firewall available. Your opinion is no better than anyone else's including mine. "Susan Bradley" <sbradcpa@pacbell.net> wrote in message news:eR5BsEU4IHA.4488@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Because if you use the native built in firewall there's no issues. > > Every month I can point to tons of issues when third party firewall > programs are used. > > Maybe they just don't have consumer grade testers and focus on the core > native stuff of the OS. > > The average user really should not use Zone Alarm. > > > > Macc_eye wrote: >> Hi IT Lite again >> >> Thanks. I also have just uninstalled KB951748 following your advice and >> everything is back to normal. I do have the warning shield to warn me not >> to download this update again. Shame I reinstalled Zone Alarm as I now >> have to reset all my programs for access. >> >> A few weeks back I got caught with the windows defender rogue update. >> What has happened to Microsoft QC and their testing of updates. How does >> the average user recover from this one if they lose internet access? How >> do they download the fix when MS find one? >> I wonder if MS appreciate the severity of the problem they have created. >> Thank goodness this forum exists so a thankyou to MS for setting this up. >> >> time for a malt whisky methinks to calm the nerves. >> >> many thanks Tony aka Macc_Eye >> DON'T PANIC !! >> >> "Macc_eye" wrote: >> >>> Hi IT Lite >>> >>> Same problem here. Are you running Zone Alarm. If so turn it off and you >>> can access the internet with all updates installed. >>> >>> in the meantime we await microsoft to fix the problem. >>> >>> regards >>> Tony (Macc_Eye) >>> >>> "IT Lite" wrote: >>> >>>> I got notified of 3 updates by MS KB951748, KB951978, and the MRT >>>> monthly. I faithfully downloaded and installed all 3. After reboot, I >>>> could not get back onto the Web. Since KB951748, KB951978 are both IE >>>> security updates, I uninstalled them both, re-booted and was graciously >>>> let back on the Web. Of course MS wanted me to intall them, so sent >>>> another gold shield to let me know. Instead of re-installing both, I >>>> first re-installed KB951978, re-booted, and still got back on the Web, >>>> but when I re-installed KB951748, again, neither my FireFox 3 or IE 7 >>>> could browse, so uninstalled KB951748. >>>> >>>> Do anyone think MS will fix that "fix" to actually allow use of IE? Or >>>> what settings must I fiddle with to make my sytems work with the >>>> KB951748? >>>> >>>> The same thing happened identically on 2 XP Pro SP3 systems, and I >>>> followed the same install - uninstall procedure of the security >>>> updates. They both work withOUT the KB951748 uninstalled. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> John >>>> >>>>
Guest IT Lite Posted July 8, 2008 Posted July 8, 2008 Hi Susan, When the new AV apps are updated daily or more, I would not trust the MS firewall. Even with a firewall on my dsl modem [hardware firewall], Zonealarm Suite, and keeping an eye on program activity, etc., one of my XP Pro systems got bit by the Worm.Win32.Huhk.c, which infects explorer.exe. Even after updating from Sp2 to Sp 3, which changes the actual explorer.exe file, it is still infected. ZA quarantines it, but has no way of removing it from the system. I do shut down ZA during certain installation processes for MAJOR apps where I trust the provider of the app. I am surprised MS does not test updates with common 3rd party security programs. My ZA is more friendly to set and monitor firewall security, in my experience. Very rarely does ZA cause system or connectivity problems for me. "Susan Bradley" <sbradcpa@pacbell.net> wrote in message news:eR5BsEU4IHA.4488@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Because if you use the native built in firewall there's no issues. > > Every month I can point to tons of issues when third party firewall > programs are used. > > Maybe they just don't have consumer grade testers and focus on the core > native stuff of the OS. > > The average user really should not use Zone Alarm. > > > > Macc_eye wrote: >> Hi IT Lite again >> >> Thanks. I also have just uninstalled KB951748 following your advice and >> everything is back to normal. I do have the warning shield to warn me not >> to download this update again. Shame I reinstalled Zone Alarm as I now >> have to reset all my programs for access. >> >> A few weeks back I got caught with the windows defender rogue update. >> What has happened to Microsoft QC and their testing of updates. How does >> the average user recover from this one if they lose internet access? How >> do they download the fix when MS find one? >> I wonder if MS appreciate the severity of the problem they have created. >> Thank goodness this forum exists so a thankyou to MS for setting this up. >> >> time for a malt whisky methinks to calm the nerves. >> >> many thanks Tony aka Macc_Eye >> DON'T PANIC !! >> >> "Macc_eye" wrote: >> >>> Hi IT Lite >>> >>> Same problem here. Are you running Zone Alarm. If so turn it off and you >>> can access the internet with all updates installed. >>> >>> in the meantime we await microsoft to fix the problem. >>> >>> regards >>> Tony (Macc_Eye) >>> >>> "IT Lite" wrote: >>> >>>> I got notified of 3 updates by MS KB951748, KB951978, and the MRT >>>> monthly. I faithfully downloaded and installed all 3. After reboot, I >>>> could not get back onto the Web. Since KB951748, KB951978 are both IE >>>> security updates, I uninstalled them both, re-booted and was graciously >>>> let back on the Web. Of course MS wanted me to intall them, so sent >>>> another gold shield to let me know. Instead of re-installing both, I >>>> first re-installed KB951978, re-booted, and still got back on the Web, >>>> but when I re-installed KB951748, again, neither my FireFox 3 or IE 7 >>>> could browse, so uninstalled KB951748. >>>> >>>> Do anyone think MS will fix that "fix" to actually allow use of IE? Or >>>> what settings must I fiddle with to make my sytems work with the >>>> KB951748? >>>> >>>> The same thing happened identically on 2 XP Pro SP3 systems, and I >>>> followed the same install - uninstall procedure of the security >>>> updates. They both work withOUT the KB951748 uninstalled. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> John >>>> >>>>
Guest IT Lite Posted July 8, 2008 Posted July 8, 2008 Hi Macc_eye, again, My ZA version allows to put the security in the learning mode for 20 days, which reduces the security warnings. After 20 days it wants to go into max security, but if you get too many warnings for your appetite, you can put it back into the learning mode. "Macc_eye" <Macceye@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2070FB4E-6027-4002-A8CD-4D44EE09CDB4@microsoft.com... > Hi IT Lite again > > Thanks. I also have just uninstalled KB951748 following your advice and > everything is back to normal. I do have the warning shield to warn me not > to > download this update again. > Shame I reinstalled Zone Alarm as I now have to reset all my programs for > access. > > A few weeks back I got caught with the windows defender rogue update. What > has happened to Microsoft QC and their testing of updates. > How does the average user recover from this one if they lose internet > access? How do they download the fix when MS find one? > I wonder if MS appreciate the severity of the problem they have created. > Thank goodness this forum exists so a thankyou to MS for setting this up. > > time for a malt whisky methinks to calm the nerves. > > many thanks > Tony aka Macc_Eye > DON'T PANIC !! > > "Macc_eye" wrote: > >> Hi IT Lite >> >> Same problem here. Are you running Zone Alarm. If so turn it off and you >> can >> access the internet with all updates installed. >> >> in the meantime we await microsoft to fix the problem. >> >> regards >> Tony (Macc_Eye) >> >> "IT Lite" wrote: >> >> > I got notified of 3 updates by MS KB951748, KB951978, and the MRT >> > monthly. >> > I faithfully downloaded and installed all 3. After reboot, I could not >> > get >> > back onto the Web. Since KB951748, KB951978 are both IE security >> > updates, I >> > uninstalled them both, re-booted and was graciously let back on the >> > Web. Of >> > course MS wanted me to intall them, so sent another gold shield to let >> > me >> > know. Instead of re-installing both, I first re-installed KB951978, >> > re-booted, and still got back on the Web, but when I re-installed >> > KB951748, >> > again, neither my FireFox 3 or IE 7 could browse, so uninstalled >> > KB951748. >> > >> > Do anyone think MS will fix that "fix" to actually allow use of IE? Or >> > what >> > settings must I fiddle with to make my sytems work with the KB951748? >> > >> > The same thing happened identically on 2 XP Pro SP3 systems, and I >> > followed >> > the same install - uninstall procedure of the security updates. They >> > both >> > work withOUT the KB951748 uninstalled. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > John >> > >> > >> >
Guest Jack Mac Posted July 8, 2008 Posted July 8, 2008 The firewall built in Widows XP is a poor excuse for a firewall. It only works in one direction. I understand the Vista firewall is much better. Jack Mac "Susan Bradley" <sbradcpa@pacbell.net> wrote in message news:eR5BsEU4IHA.4488@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Because if you use the native built in firewall there's no issues. > > Every month I can point to tons of issues when third party firewall > programs are used. > > Maybe they just don't have consumer grade testers and focus on the core > native stuff of the OS. > > The average user really should not use Zone Alarm. > > > > Macc_eye wrote: >> Hi IT Lite again >> >> Thanks. I also have just uninstalled KB951748 following your advice and >> everything is back to normal. I do have the warning shield to warn me not >> to download this update again. Shame I reinstalled Zone Alarm as I now >> have to reset all my programs for access. >> >> A few weeks back I got caught with the windows defender rogue update. >> What has happened to Microsoft QC and their testing of updates. How does >> the average user recover from this one if they lose internet access? How >> do they download the fix when MS find one? >> I wonder if MS appreciate the severity of the problem they have created. >> Thank goodness this forum exists so a thankyou to MS for setting this up. >> >> time for a malt whisky methinks to calm the nerves. >> >> many thanks Tony aka Macc_Eye >> DON'T PANIC !! >> >> "Macc_eye" wrote: >> >>> Hi IT Lite >>> >>> Same problem here. Are you running Zone Alarm. If so turn it off and you >>> can access the internet with all updates installed. >>> >>> in the meantime we await microsoft to fix the problem. >>> >>> regards >>> Tony (Macc_Eye) >>> >>> "IT Lite" wrote: >>> >>>> I got notified of 3 updates by MS KB951748, KB951978, and the MRT >>>> monthly. I faithfully downloaded and installed all 3. After reboot, I >>>> could not get back onto the Web. Since KB951748, KB951978 are both IE >>>> security updates, I uninstalled them both, re-booted and was graciously >>>> let back on the Web. Of course MS wanted me to intall them, so sent >>>> another gold shield to let me know. Instead of re-installing both, I >>>> first re-installed KB951978, re-booted, and still got back on the Web, >>>> but when I re-installed KB951748, again, neither my FireFox 3 or IE 7 >>>> could browse, so uninstalled KB951748. >>>> >>>> Do anyone think MS will fix that "fix" to actually allow use of IE? Or >>>> what settings must I fiddle with to make my sytems work with the >>>> KB951748? >>>> >>>> The same thing happened identically on 2 XP Pro SP3 systems, and I >>>> followed the same install - uninstall procedure of the security >>>> updates. They both work withOUT the KB951748 uninstalled. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> John >>>> >>>>
Guest NukeTech Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Here is another interesting twist. After installing the two offending updates, I was unable to access the internet like the rest of you. I uninstalled Service Pack 3 and rebooted. I was able to access the internet. I also have Zone Alarm installed. At this point, I will reinstall SP3 and just KB951978. Gary -- NukeTech ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NukeTech's Profile: http://forums.techarena.in/member.php?u=52762 View this thread: http://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?t=998086 http://forums.techarena.in
Guest p Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Jack Mac wrote: > The firewall built in Widows XP is a poor excuse for a firewall. It only > works in one direction. > I understand the Vista firewall is much better. > Jack Mac SP 3 changes the XP firewall to monitor in and out. P > > "Susan Bradley" <sbradcpa@pacbell.net> wrote in message > news:eR5BsEU4IHA.4488@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> Because if you use the native built in firewall there's no issues. >> >> Every month I can point to tons of issues when third party firewall >> programs are used. >> >> Maybe they just don't have consumer grade testers and focus on the core >> native stuff of the OS. >> >> The average user really should not use Zone Alarm. >> >> >> >> Macc_eye wrote: >>> Hi IT Lite again >>> >>> Thanks. I also have just uninstalled KB951748 following your advice and >>> everything is back to normal. I do have the warning shield to warn me not >>> to download this update again. Shame I reinstalled Zone Alarm as I now >>> have to reset all my programs for access. >>> >>> A few weeks back I got caught with the windows defender rogue update. >>> What has happened to Microsoft QC and their testing of updates. How does >>> the average user recover from this one if they lose internet access? How >>> do they download the fix when MS find one? >>> I wonder if MS appreciate the severity of the problem they have created. >>> Thank goodness this forum exists so a thankyou to MS for setting this up. >>> >>> time for a malt whisky methinks to calm the nerves. >>> >>> many thanks Tony aka Macc_Eye >>> DON'T PANIC !! >>> >>> "Macc_eye" wrote: >>> >>>> Hi IT Lite >>>> >>>> Same problem here. Are you running Zone Alarm. If so turn it off and you >>>> can access the internet with all updates installed. >>>> >>>> in the meantime we await microsoft to fix the problem. >>>> >>>> regards >>>> Tony (Macc_Eye) >>>> >>>> "IT Lite" wrote: >>>> >>>>> I got notified of 3 updates by MS KB951748, KB951978, and the MRT >>>>> monthly. I faithfully downloaded and installed all 3. After reboot, I >>>>> could not get back onto the Web. Since KB951748, KB951978 are both IE >>>>> security updates, I uninstalled them both, re-booted and was graciously >>>>> let back on the Web. Of course MS wanted me to intall them, so sent >>>>> another gold shield to let me know. Instead of re-installing both, I >>>>> first re-installed KB951978, re-booted, and still got back on the Web, >>>>> but when I re-installed KB951748, again, neither my FireFox 3 or IE 7 >>>>> could browse, so uninstalled KB951748. >>>>> >>>>> Do anyone think MS will fix that "fix" to actually allow use of IE? Or >>>>> what settings must I fiddle with to make my sytems work with the >>>>> KB951748? >>>>> >>>>> The same thing happened identically on 2 XP Pro SP3 systems, and I >>>>> followed the same install - uninstall procedure of the security >>>>> updates. They both work withOUT the KB951748 uninstalled. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> > >
Guest Kenzeitak Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 ZONEALARM BLOCKS INTERNET BROWSER ACCESS WITH KB951748 After updating from XP patch KB951748 ZoneAlarm can no longer interpret the difference between programs trying to access the internet. This causes all DNS packets to be blocked. TEMPORARY SOLUTION The only solution is to lower Internet Zone Security to Medium in the Firewall options tab or disabling the Firewall. LONG TERM SOLUTION Uninstall KB951748, do a system restore to 2008-07-07 or wait for another update from Microsoft or Zone Labs ZoneAlarm. Kind Regards Ken
Guest Maurice Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 This update was a critical update and so before people blast at Microsoft they should look at the reasons behind the fix. The quick answer is to install Comodo 3 instead of ZoneAlarm. "Kenzeitak" wrote: > ZONEALARM BLOCKS INTERNET BROWSER ACCESS WITH KB951748 > > After updating from XP patch KB951748 ZoneAlarm can no longer interpret the > difference between programs trying to access the internet. > This causes all DNS packets to be blocked. > > TEMPORARY SOLUTION > The only solution is to lower Internet Zone Security to Medium in the > Firewall options tab or disabling the Firewall. > > LONG TERM SOLUTION > Uninstall KB951748, do a system restore to 2008-07-07 or wait for another > update from Microsoft or Zone Labs ZoneAlarm. > > Kind Regards Ken
Guest Roger Overunder Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 "Susan Bradley" wrote: > Because if you use the native built in firewall there's no issues. I think you have your work cut out for you convincing most Win users on that. Susan. In another thread here I see at least one user who doesn't use ZoneAlarm, but had the same non-connect issue after the KB951748 update. I wouldn't be surprised if this fix has to fixed and re-offered for download.
Guest MowGreen [MVP] Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 The Firewall Challenge http://www.matousec.com/projects/firewall-challenge/results.php Zone Alarm rates rather poorly here compared to other alternatives. Online Armor has a free Version available as does Outpost. MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008] =============== *-343-* FDNY Never Forgotten =============== Maurice wrote: > This update was a critical update and so before people blast at Microsoft > they should look at the reasons behind the fix. > > The quick answer is to install Comodo 3 instead of ZoneAlarm. > > > > "Kenzeitak" wrote: > > >>ZONEALARM BLOCKS INTERNET BROWSER ACCESS WITH KB951748 >> >>After updating from XP patch KB951748 ZoneAlarm can no longer interpret the >>difference between programs trying to access the internet. >>This causes all DNS packets to be blocked. >> >>TEMPORARY SOLUTION >>The only solution is to lower Internet Zone Security to Medium in the >>Firewall options tab or disabling the Firewall. >> >>LONG TERM SOLUTION >>Uninstall KB951748, do a system restore to 2008-07-07 or wait for another >>update from Microsoft or Zone Labs ZoneAlarm. >> >>Kind Regards Ken
Guest Felix Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Hi, I had the same problems like you all, n' one more My Java Applet was unable to upload files to the net. Just after uninstalling that bloody update, everything has returned to, like it was before Just one question, I had updated my comp at 16:00 GMT, and as we can all see, the issue has started early this morning. Do Mr. Getes n' his programmers army, needs a week or a month for response to an issue like that? I'm sure that hundreds of thousands people has formatted their comps today, some of them are keeping doing that right now to, I'm sure of that Heh' god bless Google...... CU around
Guest Rick Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Kenzeitak wrote: > ZONEALARM BLOCKS INTERNET BROWSER ACCESS WITH KB951748 > > After updating from XP patch KB951748 ZoneAlarm can no longer interpret the > difference between programs trying to access the internet. > This causes all DNS packets to be blocked. > > TEMPORARY SOLUTION > The only solution is to lower Internet Zone Security to Medium in the > Firewall options tab or disabling the Firewall. > > LONG TERM SOLUTION > Uninstall KB951748, do a system restore to 2008-07-07 or wait for another > update from Microsoft or Zone Labs ZoneAlarm. > > Kind Regards Ken that is nonsense. Remove the KB951748 file and contact MS. They are the problem not ZoneLabs. -- Rick Fargo, ND N 46°53'251" W 096°48'279" Remember the USS Liberty http://www.ussliberty.org/
Guest Rick Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Maurice wrote: > This update was a critical update and so before people blast at Microsoft > they should look at the reasons behind the fix. > > The quick answer is to install Comodo 3 instead of ZoneAlarm. > > > > "Kenzeitak" wrote: > >> ZONEALARM BLOCKS INTERNET BROWSER ACCESS WITH KB951748 >> >> After updating from XP patch KB951748 ZoneAlarm can no longer interpret the >> difference between programs trying to access the internet. >> This causes all DNS packets to be blocked. >> >> TEMPORARY SOLUTION >> The only solution is to lower Internet Zone Security to Medium in the >> Firewall options tab or disabling the Firewall. >> >> LONG TERM SOLUTION >> Uninstall KB951748, do a system restore to 2008-07-07 or wait for another >> update from Microsoft or Zone Labs ZoneAlarm. >> >> Kind Regards Ken BS MS is the problem. They can not build a flawless OS and they can not create updates that do not foul up some computers. Remove KB951748. -- Rick Fargo, ND N 46°53'251" W 096°48'279" Remember the USS Liberty http://www.ussliberty.org/
Guest Rick Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Roger Overunder wrote: > "Susan Bradley" wrote: > >> Because if you use the native built in firewall there's no issues. > > I think you have your work cut out for you convincing most Win users on > that. Susan. > > In another thread here I see at least one user who doesn't use ZoneAlarm, > but had the same non-connect issue after the KB951748 update. I wouldn't be > surprised if this fix has to fixed and re-offered for download. > > Exactly. -- Rick Fargo, ND N 46°53'251" W 096°48'279" Remember the USS Liberty http://www.ussliberty.org/
Guest p Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Rick wrote: > Maurice wrote: >> This update was a critical update and so before people blast at >> Microsoft they should look at the reasons behind the fix. >> >> The quick answer is to install Comodo 3 instead of ZoneAlarm. >> >> >> >> "Kenzeitak" wrote: >> >>> ZONEALARM BLOCKS INTERNET BROWSER ACCESS WITH KB951748 >>> >>> After updating from XP patch KB951748 ZoneAlarm can no longer >>> interpret the difference between programs trying to access the internet. >>> This causes all DNS packets to be blocked. >>> >>> TEMPORARY SOLUTION >>> The only solution is to lower Internet Zone Security to Medium in the >>> Firewall options tab or disabling the Firewall. >>> >>> LONG TERM SOLUTION >>> Uninstall KB951748, do a system restore to 2008-07-07 or wait for >>> another update from Microsoft or Zone Labs ZoneAlarm. >>> >>> Kind Regards Ken > BS MS is the problem. They can not build a flawless OS and they can not > create updates that do not foul up some computers. Remove KB951748. > Not too bright a move to remove the security update. Remove Zone Alarm and either use the XP firewall, Comodo or Outpost. P
Guest LadyDungeness@Fish.Net Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 OK -- but how do we control the settings for what goes out? Lady Dungeness Out of Danger until September ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 02:30:19 +0200, p <p@nospam.cn> wrote: >Jack Mac wrote: >> The firewall built in Widows XP is a poor excuse for a firewall. It only >> works in one direction. >> I understand the Vista firewall is much better. >> Jack Mac > >SP 3 changes the XP firewall to monitor in and out. > >P
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Say what? It most certainly does NOT! List of fixes that are included in WinXP SP3 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946480 -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ p wrote: <snip> > SP 3 changes the XP firewall to monitor in and out.
Guest AKAJohnDoe Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 I have ZoneAlarm AntiVirus installed on a Vista Home Premium (SP1) system, installed all the updates except the MRT for July and can access the intenet via Firefox. Don't know about IE as I do not use it. As for ZA vs Comodo, I'll take ZA (not the free zersion) anyday over Comodo. As for Matousec, leak tests are Madison Avenue style marketing hype. Imaginary diseases with snake oil cures.
Guest Dave Wright Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 There is actually a third option... you can add your DNS servers to the trusted zone. See the following link for details: http://download.zonealarm.com/bin/free/pressReleases/2008/LossOfInternetAccessIssue.html Regards, Dave "Kenzeitak" wrote: > ZONEALARM BLOCKS INTERNET BROWSER ACCESS WITH KB951748 > > After updating from XP patch KB951748 ZoneAlarm can no longer interpret the > difference between programs trying to access the internet. > This causes all DNS packets to be blocked. > > TEMPORARY SOLUTION > The only solution is to lower Internet Zone Security to Medium in the > Firewall options tab or disabling the Firewall. > > LONG TERM SOLUTION > Uninstall KB951748, do a system restore to 2008-07-07 or wait for another > update from Microsoft or Zone Labs ZoneAlarm. > > Kind Regards Ken
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