Can we force a vista patch to reinstall if it is already installed

[Guest Mansur_Farooq]

I am trying to install the Vista patch(KB929123) on a machine which already

has the patch installed.It is telling me that the patch is not applicable to

the system.Is there a way to skip the check that the OS does to see if the

patch is already installed and force reinstallation of the patch?

 

I am having a problem with the return code being 1 in both cases where:

1) A patch is already installed on Vista

2) A patch requires a component which is missing.

I want to be able to differentiate between the two situations so is it

possible for me to force reinstallation of a patch which may already be

installed on a Vista machine?

[Guest MowGreen [MVP]]

First, see if the update is listed as described below:

> Click Control Panel, click Security, then under Windows Update,

> click View installed updates and select from the list of updates.

 

There is an installation log for the update named

Windows6.0-KB929123-x86.msu .

Do a Search for it. See if you can open it and post the contents.

Since I do not have Vista installed, not sure how one views it. See if

it will open in Notepad.

 

Perhaps we can find where the update failed to install all of it's

components.

The only reference to Windows Update error 1 specific to Vista mentions

installing language packs only -

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/902d9410-337c-4f19-8f5c-cfa4841dbd1b1033.mspx

 

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]

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Mansur_Farooq wrote:

> I am trying to install the Vista patch(KB929123) on a machine which already

> has the patch installed.It is telling me that the patch is not applicable to

> the system.Is there a way to skip the check that the OS does to see if the

> patch is already installed and force reinstallation of the patch?

>

> I am having a problem with the return code being 1 in both cases where:

> 1) A patch is already installed on Vista

> 2) A patch requires a component which is missing.

> I want to be able to differentiate between the two situations so is it

> possible for me to force reinstallation of a patch which may already be

> installed on a Vista machine?

>

>

>

[Guest Mansur_Farooq]

Re: Can we force a vista patch to reinstall if it is already insta

 

Hi,

 

I am not using Windows update here but I am trying to install the patch

manually.

And I know the previous installation of the patch was successful.This case

is not specific to one patch but it is the same behaviour for all patches on

Vista.

I am working on a patch management solution.

 

Now for the problem itself , I have been able to capture the error code that

Vista gives in the following two scenarios with a script:

1) If I try to install a security patch on the OS where the patch already

installed.

2) When the update does not apply to the system in question (an example of

this would be trying to install a Media Center hotfix on a version of Vista

that does not include the Media Center feature).

 

In both of the above scenarios the error code returned by the OS is code 1.

 

Therefore I want to be able to force reinstallation of a patch to

differentiate between the two situations.

 

Can I force reinstallation of the patch in case 1?

 

Regards,

Mansur

 

"MowGreen [MVP]" wrote:

> First, see if the update is listed as described below:

> > Click Control Panel, click Security, then under Windows Update,

> > click View installed updates and select from the list of updates.

>

> There is an installation log for the update named

> Windows6.0-KB929123-x86.msu .

> Do a Search for it. See if you can open it and post the contents.

> Since I do not have Vista installed, not sure how one views it. See if

> it will open in Notepad.

>

> Perhaps we can find where the update failed to install all of it's

> components.

> The only reference to Windows Update error 1 specific to Vista mentions

> installing language packs only -

> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/902d9410-337c-4f19-8f5c-cfa4841dbd1b1033.mspx

>

> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]

> ===============

> *-343-* FDNY

> Never Forgotten

> ===============

>

>

> Mansur_Farooq wrote:

>

> > I am trying to install the Vista patch(KB929123) on a machine which already

> > has the patch installed.It is telling me that the patch is not applicable to

> > the system.Is there a way to skip the check that the OS does to see if the

> > patch is already installed and force reinstallation of the patch?

> >

> > I am having a problem with the return code being 1 in both cases where:

> > 1) A patch is already installed on Vista

> > 2) A patch requires a component which is missing.

> > I want to be able to differentiate between the two situations so is it

> > possible for me to force reinstallation of a patch which may already be

> > installed on a Vista machine?

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest MowGreen [MVP]]

Re: Can we force a vista patch to reinstall if it is already insta

 

Howdy Mansur,

 

Whether an update is installed automatically or manually, there should

be an installation log file generated. That's not true in all cases for

Vista, the one I posted was specific to KB929123.

Since there's sparse documentation on Vista's updating it's hard for me

to give you accurate information on the error code 1.

Does it show as Windows Update error 1 or is the syntax different ?

 

If one installs a previously installed update in XP, in most cases,

there is no notification that the update has been previously installed.

i.e. there is no adverse consequences nor error message it just

installs again.

I don't know how Vista handles this. And, I do not know how to script

installation of updates. So, I'm not much help there, am I ?

 

Have you read this ? :

Description of the Windows Update Stand-alone Installer (Wusa.exe) and

of .msu files in Windows Vista

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934307

 

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]

===============

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Never Forgotten

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Mansur_Farooq wrote:

> Hi,

>

> I am not using Windows update here but I am trying to install the patch

> manually.

> And I know the previous installation of the patch was successful.This case

> is not specific to one patch but it is the same behaviour for all patches on

> Vista.

> I am working on a patch management solution.

>

> Now for the problem itself , I have been able to capture the error code that

> Vista gives in the following two scenarios with a script:

> 1) If I try to install a security patch on the OS where the patch already

> installed.

> 2) When the update does not apply to the system in question (an example of

> this would be trying to install a Media Center hotfix on a version of Vista

> that does not include the Media Center feature).

>

> In both of the above scenarios the error code returned by the OS is code 1.

>

> Therefore I want to be able to force reinstallation of a patch to

> differentiate between the two situations.

>

> Can I force reinstallation of the patch in case 1?

>

> Regards,

> Mansur

>

> "MowGreen [MVP]" wrote:

>

>

>>First, see if the update is listed as described below:

>>

>>>Click Control Panel, click Security, then under Windows Update,

>>>click View installed updates and select from the list of updates.

>>

>>There is an installation log for the update named

>>Windows6.0-KB929123-x86.msu .

>>Do a Search for it. See if you can open it and post the contents.

>>Since I do not have Vista installed, not sure how one views it. See if

>>it will open in Notepad.

>>

>>Perhaps we can find where the update failed to install all of it's

>>components.

>>The only reference to Windows Update error 1 specific to Vista mentions

>>installing language packs only -

>>http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/902d9410-337c-4f19-8f5c-cfa4841dbd1b1033.mspx

>>

>>MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]

>>===============

>> *-343-* FDNY

>>Never Forgotten

>>===============

>>

>>

>>Mansur_Farooq wrote:

>>

>>

>>> I am trying to install the Vista patch(KB929123) on a machine which already

>>>has the patch installed.It is telling me that the patch is not applicable to

>>>the system.Is there a way to skip the check that the OS does to see if the

>>>patch is already installed and force reinstallation of the patch?

>>>

>>>I am having a problem with the return code being 1 in both cases where:

>>>1) A patch is already installed on Vista

>>>2) A patch requires a component which is missing.

>>>I want to be able to differentiate between the two situations so is it

>>>possible for me to force reinstallation of a patch which may already be

>>>installed on a Vista machine?

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

[Guest Mansur_Farooq]

Re: Can we force a vista patch to reinstall if it is already insta

 

Hi,

 

I have been able to capture the error code for both the situations as

mentioned

earlier

1) Patch already installed

2) Patch not being applicable as OS component that the patch may apply to is

missing.

Both of these return code 1 on vista so thats the problem im having.

It doesnt look like a syntax error.I did see the link u sent for Wusa and

tried using expand+pkgmgr but that doesnt help.

 

Regards,

Mansur

 

 

"MowGreen [MVP]" wrote:

> Howdy Mansur,

>

> Whether an update is installed automatically or manually, there should

> be an installation log file generated. That's not true in all cases for

> Vista, the one I posted was specific to KB929123.

> Since there's sparse documentation on Vista's updating it's hard for me

> to give you accurate information on the error code 1.

> Does it show as Windows Update error 1 or is the syntax different ?

>

> If one installs a previously installed update in XP, in most cases,

> there is no notification that the update has been previously installed.

> i.e. there is no adverse consequences nor error message it just

> installs again.

> I don't know how Vista handles this. And, I do not know how to script

> installation of updates. So, I'm not much help there, am I ?

>

> Have you read this ? :

> Description of the Windows Update Stand-alone Installer (Wusa.exe) and

> of .msu files in Windows Vista

> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934307

>

> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]

> ===============

> *-343-* FDNY

> Never Forgotten

> ===============

>

>

> Mansur_Farooq wrote:

>

> > Hi,

> >

> > I am not using Windows update here but I am trying to install the patch

> > manually.

> > And I know the previous installation of the patch was successful.This case

> > is not specific to one patch but it is the same behaviour for all patches on

> > Vista.

> > I am working on a patch management solution.

> >

> > Now for the problem itself , I have been able to capture the error code that

> > Vista gives in the following two scenarios with a script:

> > 1) If I try to install a security patch on the OS where the patch already

> > installed.

> > 2) When the update does not apply to the system in question (an example of

> > this would be trying to install a Media Center hotfix on a version of Vista

> > that does not include the Media Center feature).

> >

> > In both of the above scenarios the error code returned by the OS is code 1.

> >

> > Therefore I want to be able to force reinstallation of a patch to

> > differentiate between the two situations.

> >

> > Can I force reinstallation of the patch in case 1?

> >

> > Regards,

> > Mansur

> >

> > "MowGreen [MVP]" wrote:

> >

> >

> >>First, see if the update is listed as described below:

> >>

> >>>Click Control Panel, click Security, then under Windows Update,

> >>>click View installed updates and select from the list of updates.

> >>

> >>There is an installation log for the update named

> >>Windows6.0-KB929123-x86.msu .

> >>Do a Search for it. See if you can open it and post the contents.

> >>Since I do not have Vista installed, not sure how one views it. See if

> >>it will open in Notepad.

> >>

> >>Perhaps we can find where the update failed to install all of it's

> >>components.

> >>The only reference to Windows Update error 1 specific to Vista mentions

> >>installing language packs only -

> >>http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/902d9410-337c-4f19-8f5c-cfa4841dbd1b1033.mspx

> >>

> >>MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]

> >>===============

> >> *-343-* FDNY

> >>Never Forgotten

> >>===============

> >>

> >>

> >>Mansur_Farooq wrote:

> >>

> >>

> >>> I am trying to install the Vista patch(KB929123) on a machine which already

> >>>has the patch installed.It is telling me that the patch is not applicable to

> >>>the system.Is there a way to skip the check that the OS does to see if the

> >>>patch is already installed and force reinstallation of the patch?

> >>>

> >>>I am having a problem with the return code being 1 in both cases where:

> >>>1) A patch is already installed on Vista

> >>>2) A patch requires a component which is missing.

> >>>I want to be able to differentiate between the two situations so is it

> >>>possible for me to force reinstallation of a patch which may already be

> >>>installed on a Vista machine?

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>

>

[Guest MowGreen [MVP]]

Re: Can we force a vista patch to reinstall if it is already insta

 

Frankly, I do not know what Vista will do when one attempts to reinstall

an update that is currently installed e.g. over itself.

As stated before, in XP the update just installs over itself with no

return code nor error message.

 

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]

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Never Forgotten

===============

 

 

Mansur_Farooq wrote:

> Hi,

>

> I have been able to capture the error code for both the situations as

> mentioned

> earlier

> 1) Patch already installed

> 2) Patch not being applicable as OS component that the patch may apply to is

> missing.

> Both of these return code 1 on vista so thats the problem im having.

> It doesnt look like a syntax error.I did see the link u sent for Wusa and

> tried using expand+pkgmgr but that doesnt help.

>

> Regards,

> Mansur

>

>

> "MowGreen [MVP]" wrote:

>

>

>>Howdy Mansur,

>>

>>Whether an update is installed automatically or manually, there should

>>be an installation log file generated. That's not true in all cases for

>>Vista, the one I posted was specific to KB929123.

>>Since there's sparse documentation on Vista's updating it's hard for me

>>to give you accurate information on the error code 1.

>>Does it show as Windows Update error 1 or is the syntax different ?

>>

>>If one installs a previously installed update in XP, in most cases,

>>there is no notification that the update has been previously installed.

>>i.e. there is no adverse consequences nor error message it just

>>installs again.

>>I don't know how Vista handles this. And, I do not know how to script

>>installation of updates. So, I'm not much help there, am I ?

>>

>>Have you read this ? :

>>Description of the Windows Update Stand-alone Installer (Wusa.exe) and

>>of .msu files in Windows Vista

>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934307

>>

>>MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]

>>===============

>> *-343-* FDNY

>>Never Forgotten

>>===============

>>

>>

>>Mansur_Farooq wrote:

>>

>>

>>>Hi,

>>>

>>>I am not using Windows update here but I am trying to install the patch

>>>manually.

>>>And I know the previous installation of the patch was successful.This case

>>>is not specific to one patch but it is the same behaviour for all patches on

>>>Vista.

>>>I am working on a patch management solution.

>>>

>>>Now for the problem itself , I have been able to capture the error code that

>>>Vista gives in the following two scenarios with a script:

>>>1) If I try to install a security patch on the OS where the patch already

>>>installed.

>>>2) When the update does not apply to the system in question (an example of

>>>this would be trying to install a Media Center hotfix on a version of Vista

>>>that does not include the Media Center feature).

>>>

>>>In both of the above scenarios the error code returned by the OS is code 1.

>>>

>>>Therefore I want to be able to force reinstallation of a patch to

>>>differentiate between the two situations.

>>>

>>>Can I force reinstallation of the patch in case 1?

>>>

>>>Regards,

>>>Mansur

>>>

>>>"MowGreen [MVP]" wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>First, see if the update is listed as described below:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>Click Control Panel, click Security, then under Windows Update,

>>>>>click View installed updates and select from the list of updates.

>>>>

>>>>There is an installation log for the update named

>>>>Windows6.0-KB929123-x86.msu .

>>>>Do a Search for it. See if you can open it and post the contents.

>>>>Since I do not have Vista installed, not sure how one views it. See if

>>>>it will open in Notepad.

>>>>

>>>>Perhaps we can find where the update failed to install all of it's

>>>>components.

>>>>The only reference to Windows Update error 1 specific to Vista mentions

>>>>installing language packs only -

>>>>http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/902d9410-337c-4f19-8f5c-cfa4841dbd1b1033.mspx

>>>>

>>>>MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]

>>>>===============

>>>> *-343-* FDNY

>>>>Never Forgotten

>>>>===============

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>Mansur_Farooq wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>I am trying to install the Vista patch(KB929123) on a machine which already

>>>>>has the patch installed.It is telling me that the patch is not applicable to

>>>>>the system.Is there a way to skip the check that the OS does to see if the

>>>>>patch is already installed and force reinstallation of the patch?

>>>>>

>>>>>I am having a problem with the return code being 1 in both cases where:

>>>>>1) A patch is already installed on Vista

>>>>>2) A patch requires a component which is missing.

>>>>>I want to be able to differentiate between the two situations so is it

>>>>>possible for me to force reinstallation of a patch which may already be

>>>>>installed on a Vista machine?

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

[Guest MowGreen [MVP]]

Re: Can we force a vista patch to reinstall if it is already insta

 

Vista will reapply updates that have been previously applied. As

to scripting it, I have no clue what the return code given by

the OS would then be.

There IS a difference by return and error codes, Mansur.

You mention them as though they are interchangeable.

 

Windows Update error 1 indicates that the system needs to be restarted

for an update that is installing.

 

 

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]

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>

> Mansur_Farooq wrote:

>

>> Hi,

>>

>> I have been able to capture the error code for both the situations as

>> mentioned

>> earlier

>> 1) Patch already installed

>> 2) Patch not being applicable as OS component that the patch may apply

>> to is missing.

>> Both of these return code 1 on vista so thats the problem im having.

>> It doesnt look like a syntax error.I did see the link u sent for Wusa

>> and tried using expand+pkgmgr but that doesnt help.

>>

>> Regards,

>> Mansur

>>

>>

>> "MowGreen [MVP]" wrote:

>>

>>

>>> Howdy Mansur,

>>>

>>> Whether an update is installed automatically or manually, there

>>> should be an installation log file generated. That's not true in all

>>> cases for Vista, the one I posted was specific to KB929123.

>>> Since there's sparse documentation on Vista's updating it's hard for

>>> me to give you accurate information on the error code 1.

>>> Does it show as Windows Update error 1 or is the syntax different ?

>>>

>>> If one installs a previously installed update in XP, in most cases,

>>> there is no notification that the update has been previously installed.

>>> i.e. there is no adverse consequences nor error message it just

>>> installs again.

>>> I don't know how Vista handles this. And, I do not know how to script

>>> installation of updates. So, I'm not much help there, am I ?

>>>

>>> Have you read this ? :

>>> Description of the Windows Update Stand-alone Installer (Wusa.exe)

>>> and of .msu files in Windows Vista

>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934307

>>>

>>> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]

>>> ===============

>>> *-343-* FDNY

>>> Never Forgotten

>>> ===============

>>>

>>>

>>> Mansur_Farooq wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>> Hi,

>>>>

>>>> I am not using Windows update here but I am trying to install the

>>>> patch manually.

>>>> And I know the previous installation of the patch was

>>>> successful.This case is not specific to one patch but it is the same

>>>> behaviour for all patches on Vista.

>>>> I am working on a patch management solution.

>>>>

>>>> Now for the problem itself , I have been able to capture the error

>>>> code that Vista gives in the following two scenarios with a script:

>>>> 1) If I try to install a security patch on the OS where the patch

>>>> already installed.

>>>> 2) When the update does not apply to the system in question (an

>>>> example of this would be trying to install a Media Center hotfix on

>>>> a version of Vista that does not include the Media Center feature).

>>>> In both of the above scenarios the error code returned by the OS is

>>>> code 1.

>>>>

>>>> Therefore I want to be able to force reinstallation of a patch to

>>>> differentiate between the two situations.

>>>>

>>>> Can I force reinstallation of the patch in case 1?

>>>>

>>>> Regards,

>>>> Mansur

>>>>

>>>> "MowGreen [MVP]" wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> First, see if the update is listed as described below:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>> Click Control Panel, click Security, then under Windows Update,

>>>>>> click View installed updates and select from the list of updates.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> There is an installation log for the update named

>>>>> Windows6.0-KB929123-x86.msu .

>>>>> Do a Search for it. See if you can open it and post the contents.

>>>>> Since I do not have Vista installed, not sure how one views it. See

>>>>> if it will open in Notepad.

>>>>>

>>>>> Perhaps we can find where the update failed to install all of it's

>>>>> components.

>>>>> The only reference to Windows Update error 1 specific to Vista

>>>>> mentions installing language packs only -

>>>>> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/902d9410-337c-4f19-8f5c-cfa4841dbd1b1033.mspx

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]

>>>>> ===============

>>>>> *-343-* FDNY

>>>>> Never Forgotten

>>>>> ===============

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Mansur_Farooq wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>> I am trying to install the Vista patch(KB929123) on a machine

>>>>>> which already has the patch installed.It is telling me that the

>>>>>> patch is not applicable to the system.Is there a way to skip the

>>>>>> check that the OS does to see if the patch is already installed

>>>>>> and force reinstallation of the patch?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I am having a problem with the return code being 1 in both cases

>>>>>> where:

>>>>>> 1) A patch is already installed on Vista

>>>>>> 2) A patch requires a component which is missing.

>>>>>> I want to be able to differentiate between the two situations so

>>>>>> is it possible for me to force reinstallation of a patch which may

>>>>>> already be installed on a Vista machine?

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>