Guest Smilerfive Posted September 8, 2007 Posted September 8, 2007 System: Windows Vista Ultimate fully updated, Intel E6600, Nvidia 7600GT, 4Gb Ram, one LCD VGA and one lcd via DVI etc, nothing is over clocked Problem: I built this system 6 months ago and it has been running perfectly since. On August 27th my system tried to automatically update the existing Nvidia driver from Windows Update (groan, I know, I’ve changed it and will never let this happen again). My previous driver had been working perfectly. I was at work and came home, my system was unstable, I was getting TDR’s, artefacts on screen and before I could really work out what was going on my system crashed with BSOD on nvlddmkm.sys error 116. Now it is in a loop. No matter what I do or what display drivers I try Vista always crashes on reboot with the same BSOD nvlddmkm.sys error 116. With an Nvidia driver loaded I get a BSOD nvlddmkm.sys at boot with error 116. Regardless of driver – 97.46, 100.64, 162.22, 162.44 etc If I let my system update itself, ie with a Microsoft minimal driver, it boots but all I get displayed is a blank black screen with a mouse cursor. Microsoft Nvidia WDDM driver 25/01/2007 So it shows a mouse cursor that actaully moves about but the desktop is not present, blank, black etc. If I uninstall whatever driver is currently installed from safe mode, removing all driver files, removing those in system32 and renaming nvlddmkm.sys in system32/drivers, and then reboot, my system boots up with no driver file loaded for the adaptor at all. This actually allows me to boot into Vista and gives me a desktop but clearly this means I have no display driver running and have no more than basic display functionality. I really need help. My own view is Windows update partially installed a driver or partially updated the driver that was on my system prior to August 27th. Somehow it never completed that operation and my system has residual registry entries that point to incorrect driver files. I have tried sweeping registry and I did find residual NVidia files but they were minimal and when I installed driver again I had the same nvlddmkm.sts BSOD error. I have two monitors one a Sony 17†LCD VGA and an LG 22†DVI. They were both working fine prior but now they don’t, obviously. I have seen messages about dual displays and the drivers/registry becoming confused. So I tried various configurations of monitor - VGA only, DVI only, connected to different ports etc. Each time same error BSOD nvlddmkm.sys 116. It's now three weeks since this happened and my system is still farquhared. I need some serious help, I am way behind on some lucrative projects and I might pay for help to get this resolved. Help!!!
Guest DL Posted September 8, 2007 Posted September 8, 2007 Presumably youve uninstalled all Nvidea display drivers via Add/Remove, then booted to VGA/Safe mode, without allowing any update wizard to run. Then installed drivers fom Nvidea? When I had a similar proble with Nvidea display drivers I found that a Nvidea File had the wrong version for the driver I was installing. I used a driver cleaner, obtained from one of the Guru3D forums, to completely remove all Nvidea drivers from my system, prior to reinstalling "Smilerfive" <Smilerfive@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D9983C7D-0FD5-450E-AC71-EBE074F1E994@microsoft.com... > System: Windows Vista Ultimate fully updated, Intel E6600, Nvidia 7600GT, > 4Gb Ram, one LCD VGA and one lcd via DVI etc, nothing is over clocked > > Problem: I built this system 6 months ago and it has been running > perfectly > since. On August 27th my system tried to automatically update the existing > Nvidia driver from Windows Update (groan, I know, I've changed it and will > never let this happen again). My previous driver had been working > perfectly. > I was at work and came home, my system was unstable, I was getting TDR's, > artefacts on screen and before I could really work out what was going on > my > system crashed with BSOD on nvlddmkm.sys error 116. > > Now it is in a loop. No matter what I do or what display drivers I try > Vista > always crashes on reboot with the same BSOD nvlddmkm.sys error 116. > > With an Nvidia driver loaded I get a BSOD nvlddmkm.sys at boot with error > 116. Regardless of driver - 97.46, 100.64, 162.22, 162.44 etc > > If I let my system update itself, ie with a Microsoft minimal driver, it > boots but all I get displayed is a blank black screen with a mouse cursor. > Microsoft Nvidia WDDM driver 25/01/2007 So it shows a mouse cursor that > actaully moves about but the desktop is not present, blank, black etc. > > If I uninstall whatever driver is currently installed from safe mode, > removing all driver files, removing those in system32 and renaming > nvlddmkm.sys in system32/drivers, and then reboot, my system boots up with > no > driver file loaded for the adaptor at all. This actually allows me to boot > into Vista and gives me a desktop but clearly this means I have no display > driver running and have no more than basic display functionality. > > I really need help. My own view is Windows update partially installed a > driver or partially updated the driver that was on my system prior to > August > 27th. Somehow it never completed that operation and my system has residual > registry entries that point to incorrect driver files. > > I have tried sweeping registry and I did find residual NVidia files but > they > were minimal and when I installed driver again I had the same nvlddmkm.sts > BSOD error. > > I have two monitors one a Sony 17" LCD VGA and an LG 22" DVI. They were > both > working fine prior but now they don't, obviously. I have seen messages > about > dual displays and the drivers/registry becoming confused. So I tried > various > configurations of monitor - VGA only, DVI only, connected to different > ports > etc. Each time same error BSOD nvlddmkm.sys 116. > > It's now three weeks since this happened and my system is still > farquhared. > I need some serious help, I am way behind on some lucrative projects and I > might pay for help to get this resolved. Help!!! > > >
Guest Dwarf Posted September 8, 2007 Posted September 8, 2007 If you can boot into VGA/Safe mode, then your best course of action would be to do a System Restore to a time when your system was working normally and see if that solves the problem. The update on August 27 was not an Nvidia update but Windows Update software 7.0.6000.381. The latest WHQL driver for Nvidia from their website is 162.22 dated July 26th 2007. The other driver you mentioned is actually a Beta driver, 163.44, released on August 20th 2007. I suggest that you install version 162.22. If that works, then use the procedure that I described in the post 'Problematic Updates in Windows Vista', also in this newsgroup, to install the update from August 27th. Incidentally, my system has the same video card, 7600GT, and I have not had any problems with this update, although I only have one monitor. I therefore suggest that you carry out the procedure in this post with only the Primary display connected and only connect your other display when your system is working properly. It could be that some updates change values in the registry that affect multiple display setups to the extent that the video card is confused about which display to use for what, hence the BSOD on nvlddmkm.sys error 116, which is a general error.
Guest MrSlartybartfast Posted September 9, 2007 Posted September 9, 2007 It's a known problem, been happening for over 6months. Stickywulf has updated the guide to give step by step instructions on how to remove the driver. It works a treat. Follow this link to the nvidia forums. http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=43481&hl= Hopefully someone in Windows Update Land will eventually get around to updating their own database.
Guest realcestmoi Posted September 9, 2007 Posted September 9, 2007 Hi there, If your hardware works fine: leave it be working fine and never take driver updates from windows update unless they are driver(s) for a microsoft device, if not go to the manufacturers website that is IF an update is NEEDED because the hardware is not working well. Best regards, Michel Denie "Smilerfive" <Smilerfive@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D9983C7D-0FD5-450E-AC71-EBE074F1E994@microsoft.com... > System: Windows Vista Ultimate fully updated, Intel E6600, Nvidia 7600GT, > 4Gb Ram, one LCD VGA and one lcd via DVI etc, nothing is over clocked > > Problem: I built this system 6 months ago and it has been running > perfectly > since. On August 27th my system tried to automatically update the existing > Nvidia driver from Windows Update (groan, I know, I've changed it and will > never let this happen again). My previous driver had been working > perfectly. > I was at work and came home, my system was unstable, I was getting TDR's, > artefacts on screen and before I could really work out what was going on > my > system crashed with BSOD on nvlddmkm.sys error 116. > > Now it is in a loop. No matter what I do or what display drivers I try > Vista > always crashes on reboot with the same BSOD nvlddmkm.sys error 116. > > With an Nvidia driver loaded I get a BSOD nvlddmkm.sys at boot with error > 116. Regardless of driver - 97.46, 100.64, 162.22, 162.44 etc > > If I let my system update itself, ie with a Microsoft minimal driver, it > boots but all I get displayed is a blank black screen with a mouse cursor. > Microsoft Nvidia WDDM driver 25/01/2007 So it shows a mouse cursor that > actaully moves about but the desktop is not present, blank, black etc. > > If I uninstall whatever driver is currently installed from safe mode, > removing all driver files, removing those in system32 and renaming > nvlddmkm.sys in system32/drivers, and then reboot, my system boots up with > no > driver file loaded for the adaptor at all. This actually allows me to boot > into Vista and gives me a desktop but clearly this means I have no display > driver running and have no more than basic display functionality. > > I really need help. My own view is Windows update partially installed a > driver or partially updated the driver that was on my system prior to > August > 27th. Somehow it never completed that operation and my system has residual > registry entries that point to incorrect driver files. > > I have tried sweeping registry and I did find residual NVidia files but > they > were minimal and when I installed driver again I had the same nvlddmkm.sts > BSOD error. > > I have two monitors one a Sony 17" LCD VGA and an LG 22" DVI. They were > both > working fine prior but now they don't, obviously. I have seen messages > about > dual displays and the drivers/registry becoming confused. So I tried > various > configurations of monitor - VGA only, DVI only, connected to different > ports > etc. Each time same error BSOD nvlddmkm.sys 116. > > It's now three weeks since this happened and my system is still > farquhared. > I need some serious help, I am way behind on some lucrative projects and I > might pay for help to get this resolved. Help!!! > > >
Guest Smilerfive Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 I can confirm this is not a specific problem with Nvidia cards. I went out and bought a new ATI graphics card because I could not afford to wait any longer. I immediately installed this card and my system immediately sprang into life. And in the two hours it was working I managed to backup or otherwise retrieve all my data. The next I saw was a 'display driver stopped working' error in Vista, also know as a TDR error, where timing between Vista and graphics card is lost somehow. Basically this error appeared maybe 4 times then my system crashed again with the same error BSOD 116 but with the ATI driver file instaed of the nvidia driver. THIS IS A VISTA UPDATE problem where my system has been corrupted by a wayward Vista Update. SOmehow this is killing graphics systems... I hope they fix it soon.... Vista is becoming unusable "realcestmoi" wrote: > Hi there, > > If your hardware works fine: leave it be working fine and never take driver > updates from windows update unless they are driver(s) for a microsoft > device, if not go to the manufacturers website that is IF an update is > NEEDED because the hardware is not working well. > > Best regards, > Michel Denie > > "Smilerfive" <Smilerfive@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:D9983C7D-0FD5-450E-AC71-EBE074F1E994@microsoft.com... > > System: Windows Vista Ultimate fully updated, Intel E6600, Nvidia 7600GT, > > 4Gb Ram, one LCD VGA and one lcd via DVI etc, nothing is over clocked > > > > Problem: I built this system 6 months ago and it has been running > > perfectly > > since. On August 27th my system tried to automatically update the existing > > Nvidia driver from Windows Update (groan, I know, I've changed it and will > > never let this happen again). My previous driver had been working > > perfectly. > > I was at work and came home, my system was unstable, I was getting TDR's, > > artefacts on screen and before I could really work out what was going on > > my > > system crashed with BSOD on nvlddmkm.sys error 116. > > > > Now it is in a loop. No matter what I do or what display drivers I try > > Vista > > always crashes on reboot with the same BSOD nvlddmkm.sys error 116. > > > > With an Nvidia driver loaded I get a BSOD nvlddmkm.sys at boot with error > > 116. Regardless of driver - 97.46, 100.64, 162.22, 162.44 etc > > > > If I let my system update itself, ie with a Microsoft minimal driver, it > > boots but all I get displayed is a blank black screen with a mouse cursor. > > Microsoft Nvidia WDDM driver 25/01/2007 So it shows a mouse cursor that > > actaully moves about but the desktop is not present, blank, black etc. > > > > If I uninstall whatever driver is currently installed from safe mode, > > removing all driver files, removing those in system32 and renaming > > nvlddmkm.sys in system32/drivers, and then reboot, my system boots up with > > no > > driver file loaded for the adaptor at all. This actually allows me to boot > > into Vista and gives me a desktop but clearly this means I have no display > > driver running and have no more than basic display functionality. > > > > I really need help. My own view is Windows update partially installed a > > driver or partially updated the driver that was on my system prior to > > August > > 27th. Somehow it never completed that operation and my system has residual > > registry entries that point to incorrect driver files. > > > > I have tried sweeping registry and I did find residual NVidia files but > > they > > were minimal and when I installed driver again I had the same nvlddmkm.sts > > BSOD error. > > > > I have two monitors one a Sony 17" LCD VGA and an LG 22" DVI. They were > > both > > working fine prior but now they don't, obviously. I have seen messages > > about > > dual displays and the drivers/registry becoming confused. So I tried > > various > > configurations of monitor - VGA only, DVI only, connected to different > > ports > > etc. Each time same error BSOD nvlddmkm.sys 116. > > > > It's now three weeks since this happened and my system is still > > farquhared. > > I need some serious help, I am way behind on some lucrative projects and I > > might pay for help to get this resolved. Help!!! > > > > > > > > >
Guest realcestmoi Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 Driver updates are optional "Smilerfive" <Smilerfive@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D38C2683-0FF2-459C-983D-5143C649C3D2@microsoft.com... >I can confirm this is not a specific problem with Nvidia cards. I went out > and bought a new ATI graphics card because I could not afford to wait any > longer. > > I immediately installed this card and my system immediately sprang into > life. And in the two hours it was working I managed to backup or otherwise > retrieve all my data. > > The next I saw was a 'display driver stopped working' error in Vista, also > know as a TDR error, where timing between Vista and graphics card is lost > somehow. Basically this error appeared maybe 4 times then my system > crashed > again with the same error BSOD 116 but with the ATI driver file instaed of > the nvidia driver. > > THIS IS A VISTA UPDATE problem where my system has been corrupted by a > wayward Vista Update. SOmehow this is killing graphics systems... > > I hope they fix it soon.... Vista is becoming unusable > > > > "realcestmoi" wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> If your hardware works fine: leave it be working fine and never take >> driver >> updates from windows update unless they are driver(s) for a microsoft >> device, if not go to the manufacturers website that is IF an update is >> NEEDED because the hardware is not working well. >> >> Best regards, >> Michel Denie >> >> "Smilerfive" <Smilerfive@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:D9983C7D-0FD5-450E-AC71-EBE074F1E994@microsoft.com... >> > System: Windows Vista Ultimate fully updated, Intel E6600, Nvidia >> > 7600GT, >> > 4Gb Ram, one LCD VGA and one lcd via DVI etc, nothing is over clocked >> > >> > Problem: I built this system 6 months ago and it has been running >> > perfectly >> > since. On August 27th my system tried to automatically update the >> > existing >> > Nvidia driver from Windows Update (groan, I know, I've changed it and >> > will >> > never let this happen again). My previous driver had been working >> > perfectly. >> > I was at work and came home, my system was unstable, I was getting >> > TDR's, >> > artefacts on screen and before I could really work out what was going >> > on >> > my >> > system crashed with BSOD on nvlddmkm.sys error 116. >> > >> > Now it is in a loop. No matter what I do or what display drivers I try >> > Vista >> > always crashes on reboot with the same BSOD nvlddmkm.sys error 116. >> > >> > With an Nvidia driver loaded I get a BSOD nvlddmkm.sys at boot with >> > error >> > 116. Regardless of driver - 97.46, 100.64, 162.22, 162.44 etc >> > >> > If I let my system update itself, ie with a Microsoft minimal driver, >> > it >> > boots but all I get displayed is a blank black screen with a mouse >> > cursor. >> > Microsoft Nvidia WDDM driver 25/01/2007 So it shows a mouse cursor that >> > actaully moves about but the desktop is not present, blank, black etc. >> > >> > If I uninstall whatever driver is currently installed from safe mode, >> > removing all driver files, removing those in system32 and renaming >> > nvlddmkm.sys in system32/drivers, and then reboot, my system boots up >> > with >> > no >> > driver file loaded for the adaptor at all. This actually allows me to >> > boot >> > into Vista and gives me a desktop but clearly this means I have no >> > display >> > driver running and have no more than basic display functionality. >> > >> > I really need help. My own view is Windows update partially installed a >> > driver or partially updated the driver that was on my system prior to >> > August >> > 27th. Somehow it never completed that operation and my system has >> > residual >> > registry entries that point to incorrect driver files. >> > >> > I have tried sweeping registry and I did find residual NVidia files but >> > they >> > were minimal and when I installed driver again I had the same >> > nvlddmkm.sts >> > BSOD error. >> > >> > I have two monitors one a Sony 17" LCD VGA and an LG 22" DVI. They were >> > both >> > working fine prior but now they don't, obviously. I have seen messages >> > about >> > dual displays and the drivers/registry becoming confused. So I tried >> > various >> > configurations of monitor - VGA only, DVI only, connected to different >> > ports >> > etc. Each time same error BSOD nvlddmkm.sys 116. >> > >> > It's now three weeks since this happened and my system is still >> > farquhared. >> > I need some serious help, I am way behind on some lucrative projects >> > and I >> > might pay for help to get this resolved. Help!!! >> > >> > >> > >> >> >>
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