delayed start of windows update when booting causes problems --

[Guest georgef]

Hey Folks - My son is a student (new) at a college here in California which

uses some cisco related security software. This software apparently is

getting "confused" as apparently Windows Automatic Update Service has about a

2 minute delay before starting (in Vista ONLY). Kids with XP computers are

not having connectivity problems to the internet. Because the Cisco security

software thinks Windows Automatic Update Service is not running (in reality

it is), the kids with Vista are getting just "temporary" internet connection

for 59 minutes (on this system at this college). The work around is to let

your computer wait for 2 minutes after the Cisco signin page comes up because

by then, Windows Automatic Update Service starts (again, this delay in

starting is a Vista problem, not an XP problem). This work around works, but

is a pain in the a$$

 

QUESTION - how do you configure Windows Automatic Update Service so that it

starts IMMEDIATELY when booting up Windows? ie - no delay in starting the

service.

 

THANKS ALL!!!

[Guest Robert Aldwinckle]

(cross-post added to Vista Networking)

"georgef" <georgef@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:322098FE-A4E3-43EB-A1F7-6E76C2F3AC33@microsoft.com...

> Hey Folks - My son is a student (new) at a college here in California which

> uses some cisco related security software. This software apparently is

> getting "confused" as apparently Windows Automatic Update Service has about a

> 2 minute delay before starting (in Vista ONLY).

 

 

Please detail the diagnostics which you are using to support this assertion.

It seems to be stronger than just a guess? Have you checked with the

college network admin?

 

> Kids with XP computers are not having connectivity problems to the internet.

 

 

How do you know that the XP computers are configured the same way?

 

> Because the Cisco security software thinks Windows Automatic Update Service

> is not running (in reality it is), the kids with Vista are getting just "temporary" internet connection

> for 59 minutes (on this system at this college). The work around is to let

> your computer wait for 2 minutes after the Cisco signin page comes up because

> by then, Windows Automatic Update Service starts (again, this delay in

> starting is a Vista problem, not an XP problem). This work around works, but

> is a pain in the a$$

 

 

Sounds more like a problem with a proxy to me.

 

I would try tracing the connection(s).

E.g. since you have two cases you could trace both

and compare them without even having to understand

exactly which either was saying. XP users could use

netcap + Ethereal for this. I don't know if those are

available on Vista or not.

 

 

Good luck

 

Robert Aldwinckle

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>

> QUESTION - how do you configure Windows Automatic Update Service so that it

> starts IMMEDIATELY when booting up Windows? ie - no delay in starting the

> service.

>

> THANKS ALL!!!

[Guest georgef]

Re: delayed start of windows update when booting causes problems -

 

hi Robert - logical answer, but I know it's not a proxy problem. I've been

told by the RESNET people (these are the techs running the students'

accessiblity to the internet at this college) that XP computers don't have

this problem. They've isolated the problem to Vista and the fact that

Microsoft, for some reason, programmed in a "delay" to the windows automatic

update service.

 

"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

> (cross-post added to Vista Networking)

> "georgef" <georgef@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:322098FE-A4E3-43EB-A1F7-6E76C2F3AC33@microsoft.com...

> > Hey Folks - My son is a student (new) at a college here in California which

> > uses some cisco related security software. This software apparently is

> > getting "confused" as apparently Windows Automatic Update Service has about a

> > 2 minute delay before starting (in Vista ONLY).

>

>

> Please detail the diagnostics which you are using to support this assertion.

> It seems to be stronger than just a guess? Have you checked with the

> college network admin?

>

>

> > Kids with XP computers are not having connectivity problems to the internet.

>

>

> How do you know that the XP computers are configured the same way?

>

>

> > Because the Cisco security software thinks Windows Automatic Update Service

> > is not running (in reality it is), the kids with Vista are getting just "temporary" internet connection

> > for 59 minutes (on this system at this college). The work around is to let

> > your computer wait for 2 minutes after the Cisco signin page comes up because

> > by then, Windows Automatic Update Service starts (again, this delay in

> > starting is a Vista problem, not an XP problem). This work around works, but

> > is a pain in the a$$

>

>

> Sounds more like a problem with a proxy to me.

>

> I would try tracing the connection(s).

> E.g. since you have two cases you could trace both

> and compare them without even having to understand

> exactly which either was saying. XP users could use

> netcap + Ethereal for this. I don't know if those are

> available on Vista or not.

>

>

> Good luck

>

> Robert Aldwinckle

> ---

>

>

> >

> > QUESTION - how do you configure Windows Automatic Update Service so that it

> > starts IMMEDIATELY when booting up Windows? ie - no delay in starting the

> > service.

> >

> > THANKS ALL!!!

>

>

>