best LCD monitor(s) to buy - please help

S

Sunny

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E80D733F-4BE2-4B4F-B048-C2926BA276DB@microsoft.com...
> 640x480 <?> for the games, Sunny

Ta.
I upped the resolution in WinXP to 1152 x 864, and that is as far as I can
go without using a pair of binoculars :)
 
P

Patrick Vervoorn

In article <udug2P2HJHA.4084@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,
Sunny <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

>2 Days ago I replaced my wife's 19" monitor and my 21" monitor
> (HitachiCM771 and Hitachi CM813)
>with :
>a. Samsung 22" wide screen LCD - 2243BWX, and
>b. Samsung 22" wide screen LCD - T220
>
>The 2243BWX is running WinXP with a NVIDIA MX440 at 1024x768
>The T220 is running WinXP and Win98SE with a NVIDIA 8500GT at 1024x768
>(also Win98SE, using a 64Mb Voodoo V5 video card (KVM switch)


[snip]

This is a terrible waste of these monitors. Both should be able to do
1680x1050, and I have an old P2-400, with an NVidia RIVA TNT which also
does 1680x1050. While I understand further on in this thread you have
eyesight related limitations which apparently prompted you to set these
resolutions, your eyes will probably thank you more if you drive these
displays at their native resolutions, and perhaps play with the font-size
a bit...?

The other unfortunate part is that in my experience, Samsung's support for
other scaling-options than 'fill screen' (i.e. stretch all input until
they fill the screen). This will distort all signals you provide. More
'mature' displays allow you at least 'Fill to aspect' (which means they
stretch the input until they hit an edge, and then keep it like that,
filling up any left-over space with black bars. Finally, there's also 1:1,
which maps the input, on a pixel-per-pixel basis, to the screen, but at
low resolutions, you will end up with a post-stamp sized image.

Anyway, if you're happy with your setup, all the power to you, but be
aware there are probably other, and better solutions which let you use the
full resolution of the monitor, and provide less eye-strain.

Regards,

Patrick.
 
A

Adam

Yes, I like my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro video card very much also.
The only problem that I've had with it is the fan stopped working,
which I worked around with an after market heatsink combined with
blowing a small $10 fan into the open case.

My previous video card used to use an NVIDIA graphics chipset,
which left me with a bad after taste.

My AMD CPU system has served me well.
I might build an Intel CPU system one day.


"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:68C45AD2-C0C1-42FB-9F42-6F1510889765@microsoft.com...
> I bought a new LCD monitor not very long ago because the screen size on my
> old CRT Optiquest Monitor kept getting smaller and smaller because it was
> wearing out. I am happy with my current monitor and it is a Viewsonic
> monitor with a VGA connection. I was also considering a Samsung monitor but
> decided not to go with DVI even though my graphics card could support it. I
> currently use an ATI Radeon 9800 XT graphics card which I find to be really
> awesome and do not want to change it until I have to in the future.
> Fortunately, most of the games coming out require ATI Radeon 9500 or better
> since ATI continues to support their graphics cards that are Radeon 9500 and
> better for games. I know Nvidia is the current leader but ever since the
> failed update from a 3dfx graphics card to an Nvidia G-Force and then the
> successful update from the 3dfx graphics card to the ATI Radeon card, I have
> been an ATI fan and have found their customer service to be helpful to me as
> well as their backwards compatibility. The thing is that I like Intel CPU's
> better than AMD CPU's so I find the only way to keep me happy is to have a
> fully customized machine that I suggest to everyone who enjoys working with
> their computers(s).
>
>
> "Adam" wrote:
>
> >
> > "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
> > news:hutnd49gdloql7thpptbteq3nmuvkro9tv@4ax.com...
> > > On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:13:30 -0700, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> put
> > > finger to keyboard and composed:
> > >
> > > >Not sure what's the best newsgroup for this topic so here goes ...
> > > >
> > > >I'm thinking about replacing my ViewSonic P815 monitor from CRT to LCD.
> > >
> > > I'm assuming that you will attach your monitor to a Win98 box, and I'm
> > > also assuming that your video card is not the latest and greatest.
> > >
> > > If so, then I'd be careful that any monitor I chose had a native
> > > resolution that was supported by my card.
> > >
> > > - Franc Zabkar
> > > --
> > > Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

> >
> >
> > I have the following video card ...
> > - ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB 256-bit DDR 8x AGP
> >
> > It should work fine with the dual LCD monitor setup, right?
> >
> > BTW, in case you're wondering why I'm thinking about
> > replacing my beloved ViewSonic P815 CRT monitor,
> > the bulky size (depth-wise) pushes the monitor too far forward or
> > too close, which is causing me to have nearsighted vision and
> > destroying my farsighted vision.
> >
 
A

Adam

"Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:uoctlK6HJHA.1364@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message
> news:pJVCk.1613$YU2.1363@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com...
> > - (W=19.9" H=19.19") ViewSonic P815 21" CRT Monitor

>
> Just went out and measured the old 21" monitor
> Hitachi CM813 :
> Dimensions : W 19" x H 20.5"
> Screen : W 16" x H 12"
> Samsung T220 :
> Dimensions : W 20.5" x H 17.5"
> Screen : W 18.7" x H 11.5"
>
> The big difference is 5" deep instead of 19" and a vast drop in weight
> :)
>



Thanks!

The T220 does not pivot so I'm considering
it's bigger brother (listed in the PDF in the following URL) ...
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/detail/spec.do?group=computersperipherals&typ
e=monitors&subtype=lcd&model_cd=LS22TWHSUV/ZA

The PDF is really nice since it also shows dimensions without the stand also.
 
C

chrisv

Adam wrote:

>> The dimensions of the Dell widescreen LCD Monitors are
>> more square (which is good, I guess) than the Samsung.
>> I'm not sure whether the dimensions include the case enclosure or not.

>
>- (W=19.9" H=19.19") ViewSonic P815 21" CRT Monitor


Umm.... 21" 4:3 (CRT) monitors have viewable screen dimensions of 16"
x 12".
 
C

chrisv

Sunny wrote:

>I had a quick try at 1680 x 1050, didn't bother adjusting the "window" to
>fit the screen, when it looked like I needed a magnifying glass to read
>anything :)


Fit it to the screen at 1680x1050, and live with it. Reading glassses
if needed.

Be glad you didn't get a 19" 1680x1050.
 
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Adam

"chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:nqaqd4plhjv45oj03fj5hl0moib77sgvnl@4ax.com...
> Adam wrote:
>
> >> The dimensions of the Dell widescreen LCD Monitors are
> >> more square (which is good, I guess) than the Samsung.
> >> I'm not sure whether the dimensions include the case enclosure or not.

> >
> >- (W=19.9" H=19.19") ViewSonic P815 21" CRT Monitor

>
> Umm.... 21" 4:3 (CRT) monitors have viewable screen dimensions of 16"
> x 12".
>



Yes, you're right. But, since my primary concern is space,
the physical (not viewable) dimensions are
what I'm most interested in.
 
D

Dan

My friend Jeff helped me replace a fan that was giving me a BIOS error
message and my system now works great. Jeff also helped me replace burned
out LCD lights. I enjoy working with the software side but am still too
limited on the hardware side because I am always concerned I will break a
piece on the hardware side but software does break but it is just so much
easier for me to work with because my hands on skills with computers as far
as the hardware side is not too great. I can change memory modules and
graphics and sound cards and easy things like that but still need help from
an expert when it comes to actually building my machine. It was nice because
the fan replacement was fairly cheap and I think it was about $5-$10 dollars.

"Adam" wrote:

> Yes, I like my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro video card very much also.
> The only problem that I've had with it is the fan stopped working,
> which I worked around with an after market heatsink combined with
> blowing a small $10 fan into the open case.
>
> My previous video card used to use an NVIDIA graphics chipset,
> which left me with a bad after taste.
>
> My AMD CPU system has served me well.
> I might build an Intel CPU system one day.
>
>
> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:68C45AD2-C0C1-42FB-9F42-6F1510889765@microsoft.com...
> > I bought a new LCD monitor not very long ago because the screen size on my
> > old CRT Optiquest Monitor kept getting smaller and smaller because it was
> > wearing out. I am happy with my current monitor and it is a Viewsonic
> > monitor with a VGA connection. I was also considering a Samsung monitor but
> > decided not to go with DVI even though my graphics card could support it. I
> > currently use an ATI Radeon 9800 XT graphics card which I find to be really
> > awesome and do not want to change it until I have to in the future.
> > Fortunately, most of the games coming out require ATI Radeon 9500 or better
> > since ATI continues to support their graphics cards that are Radeon 9500 and
> > better for games. I know Nvidia is the current leader but ever since the
> > failed update from a 3dfx graphics card to an Nvidia G-Force and then the
> > successful update from the 3dfx graphics card to the ATI Radeon card, I have
> > been an ATI fan and have found their customer service to be helpful to me as
> > well as their backwards compatibility. The thing is that I like Intel CPU's
> > better than AMD CPU's so I find the only way to keep me happy is to have a
> > fully customized machine that I suggest to everyone who enjoys working with
> > their computers(s).
> >
> >
> > "Adam" wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
> > > news:hutnd49gdloql7thpptbteq3nmuvkro9tv@4ax.com...
> > > > On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:13:30 -0700, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> put
> > > > finger to keyboard and composed:
> > > >
> > > > >Not sure what's the best newsgroup for this topic so here goes ...
> > > > >
> > > > >I'm thinking about replacing my ViewSonic P815 monitor from CRT to LCD.
> > > >
> > > > I'm assuming that you will attach your monitor to a Win98 box, and I'm
> > > > also assuming that your video card is not the latest and greatest.
> > > >
> > > > If so, then I'd be careful that any monitor I chose had a native
> > > > resolution that was supported by my card.
> > > >
> > > > - Franc Zabkar
> > > > --
> > > > Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
> > >
> > >
> > > I have the following video card ...
> > > - ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB 256-bit DDR 8x AGP
> > >
> > > It should work fine with the dual LCD monitor setup, right?
> > >
> > > BTW, in case you're wondering why I'm thinking about
> > > replacing my beloved ViewSonic P815 CRT monitor,
> > > the bulky size (depth-wise) pushes the monitor too far forward or
> > > too close, which is causing me to have nearsighted vision and
> > > destroying my farsighted vision.
> > >

>
>
>
 
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Adam

It's nice to have helpful friends. Like you, I'm not that
comfortable with taking hardware components apart to fix.
If it weren't for all the helpful friends on the newsgroups, internet, etc.,
I would not have been able to put my own computer system together.
No way, no how.

Actually, the "after market heatsink" that I attached to
the GPU is a VGA cooler. I'm not sure what happened but
there's still a shower of bad pixels when I first boot up.
I see the bad pixels when the Windows logo is displayed.
But, after the system goes into Win98SE,
no more shower of bad pixels. Strange!
Wonder if your video expert friend, Jeff,
might know what the problem might be.



"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:67FD601F-9FAB-405F-8D8D-3577BC27064E@microsoft.com...
> My friend Jeff helped me replace a fan that was giving me a BIOS error
> message and my system now works great. Jeff also helped me replace burned
> out LCD lights. I enjoy working with the software side but am still too
> limited on the hardware side because I am always concerned I will break a
> piece on the hardware side but software does break but it is just so much
> easier for me to work with because my hands on skills with computers as far
> as the hardware side is not too great. I can change memory modules and
> graphics and sound cards and easy things like that but still need help from
> an expert when it comes to actually building my machine. It was nice because
> the fan replacement was fairly cheap and I think it was about $5-$10 dollars.
>
>
> "Adam" wrote:
>
> > Yes, I like my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro video card very much also.
> > The only problem that I've had with it is the fan stopped working,
> > which I worked around with an after market heatsink combined with
> > blowing a small $10 fan into the open case.
> >
> > My previous video card used to use an NVIDIA graphics chipset,
> > which left me with a bad after taste.
> >
> > My AMD CPU system has served me well.
> > I might build an Intel CPU system one day.
> >
> >
> > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:68C45AD2-C0C1-42FB-9F42-6F1510889765@microsoft.com...
> > > I bought a new LCD monitor not very long ago because the screen size on my
> > > old CRT Optiquest Monitor kept getting smaller and smaller because it was
> > > wearing out. I am happy with my current monitor and it is a Viewsonic
> > > monitor with a VGA connection. I was also considering a Samsung monitor

but
> > > decided not to go with DVI even though my graphics card could support it.

I
> > > currently use an ATI Radeon 9800 XT graphics card which I find to be

really
> > > awesome and do not want to change it until I have to in the future.
> > > Fortunately, most of the games coming out require ATI Radeon 9500 or

better
> > > since ATI continues to support their graphics cards that are Radeon 9500

and
> > > better for games. I know Nvidia is the current leader but ever since the
> > > failed update from a 3dfx graphics card to an Nvidia G-Force and then the
> > > successful update from the 3dfx graphics card to the ATI Radeon card, I

have
> > > been an ATI fan and have found their customer service to be helpful to me

as
> > > well as their backwards compatibility. The thing is that I like Intel

CPU's
> > > better than AMD CPU's so I find the only way to keep me happy is to have a
> > > fully customized machine that I suggest to everyone who enjoys working

with
> > > their computers(s).
> > >
> > >
> > > "Adam" wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:hutnd49gdloql7thpptbteq3nmuvkro9tv@4ax.com...
> > > > > On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:13:30 -0700, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> put
> > > > > finger to keyboard and composed:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Not sure what's the best newsgroup for this topic so here goes ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I'm thinking about replacing my ViewSonic P815 monitor from CRT to

LCD.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm assuming that you will attach your monitor to a Win98 box, and I'm
> > > > > also assuming that your video card is not the latest and greatest.
> > > > >
> > > > > If so, then I'd be careful that any monitor I chose had a native
> > > > > resolution that was supported by my card.
> > > > >
> > > > > - Franc Zabkar
> > > > > --
> > > > > Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have the following video card ...
> > > > - ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB 256-bit DDR 8x AGP
> > > >
> > > > It should work fine with the dual LCD monitor setup, right?
> > > >
> > > > BTW, in case you're wondering why I'm thinking about
> > > > replacing my beloved ViewSonic P815 CRT monitor,
> > > > the bulky size (depth-wise) pushes the monitor too far forward or
> > > > too close, which is causing me to have nearsighted vision and
> > > > destroying my farsighted vision.
> > > >

> >
> >
> >
 
D

Dan

Sure, I can ask. Please give me a few days. BTW, Adam, have you made sure
that you do not have any loose connections and the dust is clear from your
machine as well as all the connections in the right place for your computer,
right?

"Adam" wrote:

> It's nice to have helpful friends. Like you, I'm not that
> comfortable with taking hardware components apart to fix.
> If it weren't for all the helpful friends on the newsgroups, internet, etc.,
> I would not have been able to put my own computer system together.
> No way, no how.
>
> Actually, the "after market heatsink" that I attached to
> the GPU is a VGA cooler. I'm not sure what happened but
> there's still a shower of bad pixels when I first boot up.
> I see the bad pixels when the Windows logo is displayed.
> But, after the system goes into Win98SE,
> no more shower of bad pixels. Strange!
> Wonder if your video expert friend, Jeff,
> might know what the problem might be.
>
>
>
> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:67FD601F-9FAB-405F-8D8D-3577BC27064E@microsoft.com...
> > My friend Jeff helped me replace a fan that was giving me a BIOS error
> > message and my system now works great. Jeff also helped me replace burned
> > out LCD lights. I enjoy working with the software side but am still too
> > limited on the hardware side because I am always concerned I will break a
> > piece on the hardware side but software does break but it is just so much
> > easier for me to work with because my hands on skills with computers as far
> > as the hardware side is not too great. I can change memory modules and
> > graphics and sound cards and easy things like that but still need help from
> > an expert when it comes to actually building my machine. It was nice because
> > the fan replacement was fairly cheap and I think it was about $5-$10 dollars.
> >
> >
> > "Adam" wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, I like my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro video card very much also.
> > > The only problem that I've had with it is the fan stopped working,
> > > which I worked around with an after market heatsink combined with
> > > blowing a small $10 fan into the open case.
> > >
> > > My previous video card used to use an NVIDIA graphics chipset,
> > > which left me with a bad after taste.
> > >
> > > My AMD CPU system has served me well.
> > > I might build an Intel CPU system one day.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:68C45AD2-C0C1-42FB-9F42-6F1510889765@microsoft.com...
> > > > I bought a new LCD monitor not very long ago because the screen size on my
> > > > old CRT Optiquest Monitor kept getting smaller and smaller because it was
> > > > wearing out. I am happy with my current monitor and it is a Viewsonic
> > > > monitor with a VGA connection. I was also considering a Samsung monitor

> but
> > > > decided not to go with DVI even though my graphics card could support it.

> I
> > > > currently use an ATI Radeon 9800 XT graphics card which I find to be

> really
> > > > awesome and do not want to change it until I have to in the future.
> > > > Fortunately, most of the games coming out require ATI Radeon 9500 or

> better
> > > > since ATI continues to support their graphics cards that are Radeon 9500

> and
> > > > better for games. I know Nvidia is the current leader but ever since the
> > > > failed update from a 3dfx graphics card to an Nvidia G-Force and then the
> > > > successful update from the 3dfx graphics card to the ATI Radeon card, I

> have
> > > > been an ATI fan and have found their customer service to be helpful to me

> as
> > > > well as their backwards compatibility. The thing is that I like Intel

> CPU's
> > > > better than AMD CPU's so I find the only way to keep me happy is to have a
> > > > fully customized machine that I suggest to everyone who enjoys working

> with
> > > > their computers(s).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Adam" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:hutnd49gdloql7thpptbteq3nmuvkro9tv@4ax.com...
> > > > > > On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:13:30 -0700, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> put
> > > > > > finger to keyboard and composed:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >Not sure what's the best newsgroup for this topic so here goes ...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I'm thinking about replacing my ViewSonic P815 monitor from CRT to

> LCD.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm assuming that you will attach your monitor to a Win98 box, and I'm
> > > > > > also assuming that your video card is not the latest and greatest.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If so, then I'd be careful that any monitor I chose had a native
> > > > > > resolution that was supported by my card.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Franc Zabkar
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I have the following video card ...
> > > > > - ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB 256-bit DDR 8x AGP
> > > > >
> > > > > It should work fine with the dual LCD monitor setup, right?
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW, in case you're wondering why I'm thinking about
> > > > > replacing my beloved ViewSonic P815 CRT monitor,
> > > > > the bulky size (depth-wise) pushes the monitor too far forward or
> > > > > too close, which is causing me to have nearsighted vision and
> > > > > destroying my farsighted vision.
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >

>
>
 
A

Adam

Thanks!

Yes, I believe that is the case but I can check again.
Also, I have tried ...
1) booting into safe mode with the suspected ATI video card
[which shows shower of bad pixel zoomed in]
2) using a different PCI video card instead
[no shower of bad pixel with a different PCI video card]
3) plug the monitor to another system (a laptop)
[no shower of bad pixel with another system so monitor is clear]

Everything seems to point to the suspected ATI video card.

FYI, when the factory fan was removed, I had to
clean off the old paste with rubbing alcohol before
applying new paste to attach the VGA cooler.
This was done as cautiously as possible but
it's only my first time removing/applying paste. So,
I'm not sure whether this might have caused the problem.


"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D2CFC1BE-320E-4D66-9B52-84566478B8C5@microsoft.com...
> Sure, I can ask. Please give me a few days. BTW, Adam, have you made sure
> that you do not have any loose connections and the dust is clear from your
> machine as well as all the connections in the right place for your computer,
> right?
>
>
> "Adam" wrote:
>
> > It's nice to have helpful friends. Like you, I'm not that
> > comfortable with taking hardware components apart to fix.
> > If it weren't for all the helpful friends on the newsgroups, internet, etc.,
> > I would not have been able to put my own computer system together.
> > No way, no how.
> >
> > Actually, the "after market heatsink" that I attached to
> > the GPU is a VGA cooler. I'm not sure what happened but
> > there's still a shower of bad pixels when I first boot up.
> > I see the bad pixels when the Windows logo is displayed.
> > But, after the system goes into Win98SE,
> > no more shower of bad pixels. Strange!
> > Wonder if your video expert friend, Jeff,
> > might know what the problem might be.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:67FD601F-9FAB-405F-8D8D-3577BC27064E@microsoft.com...
> > > My friend Jeff helped me replace a fan that was giving me a BIOS error
> > > message and my system now works great. Jeff also helped me replace burned
> > > out LCD lights. I enjoy working with the software side but am still too
> > > limited on the hardware side because I am always concerned I will break a
> > > piece on the hardware side but software does break but it is just so much
> > > easier for me to work with because my hands on skills with computers as

far
> > > as the hardware side is not too great. I can change memory modules and
> > > graphics and sound cards and easy things like that but still need help

from
> > > an expert when it comes to actually building my machine. It was nice

because
> > > the fan replacement was fairly cheap and I think it was about $5-$10

dollars.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Adam" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yes, I like my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro video card very much also.
> > > > The only problem that I've had with it is the fan stopped working,
> > > > which I worked around with an after market heatsink combined with
> > > > blowing a small $10 fan into the open case.
> > > >
> > > > My previous video card used to use an NVIDIA graphics chipset,
> > > > which left me with a bad after taste.
> > > >
> > > > My AMD CPU system has served me well.
> > > > I might build an Intel CPU system one day.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:68C45AD2-C0C1-42FB-9F42-6F1510889765@microsoft.com...
> > > > > I bought a new LCD monitor not very long ago because the screen size

on my
> > > > > old CRT Optiquest Monitor kept getting smaller and smaller because it

was
> > > > > wearing out. I am happy with my current monitor and it is a Viewsonic
> > > > > monitor with a VGA connection. I was also considering a Samsung

monitor
> > but
> > > > > decided not to go with DVI even though my graphics card could support

it.
> > I
> > > > > currently use an ATI Radeon 9800 XT graphics card which I find to be

> > really
> > > > > awesome and do not want to change it until I have to in the future.
> > > > > Fortunately, most of the games coming out require ATI Radeon 9500 or

> > better
> > > > > since ATI continues to support their graphics cards that are Radeon

9500
> > and
> > > > > better for games. I know Nvidia is the current leader but ever since

the
> > > > > failed update from a 3dfx graphics card to an Nvidia G-Force and then

the
> > > > > successful update from the 3dfx graphics card to the ATI Radeon card,

I
> > have
> > > > > been an ATI fan and have found their customer service to be helpful to

me
> > as
> > > > > well as their backwards compatibility. The thing is that I like Intel

> > CPU's
> > > > > better than AMD CPU's so I find the only way to keep me happy is to

have a
> > > > > fully customized machine that I suggest to everyone who enjoys working

> > with
> > > > > their computers(s).
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Adam" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:hutnd49gdloql7thpptbteq3nmuvkro9tv@4ax.com...
> > > > > > > On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:13:30 -0700, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com>

put
> > > > > > > finger to keyboard and composed:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Not sure what's the best newsgroup for this topic so here goes

....
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I'm thinking about replacing my ViewSonic P815 monitor from CRT

to
> > LCD.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm assuming that you will attach your monitor to a Win98 box, and

I'm
> > > > > > > also assuming that your video card is not the latest and greatest.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If so, then I'd be careful that any monitor I chose had a native
> > > > > > > resolution that was supported by my card.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Franc Zabkar
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have the following video card ...
> > > > > > - ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB 256-bit DDR 8x AGP
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It should work fine with the dual LCD monitor setup, right?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BTW, in case you're wondering why I'm thinking about
> > > > > > replacing my beloved ViewSonic P815 CRT monitor,
> > > > > > the bulky size (depth-wise) pushes the monitor too far forward or
> > > > > > too close, which is causing me to have nearsighted vision and
> > > > > > destroying my farsighted vision.
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

> >
> >
 
F

Franc Zabkar

On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:28:28 -0700, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

>Actually, the "after market heatsink" that I attached to
>the GPU is a VGA cooler. I'm not sure what happened but
>there's still a shower of bad pixels when I first boot up.
>I see the bad pixels when the Windows logo is displayed.
>But, after the system goes into Win98SE,
>no more shower of bad pixels. Strange!


It sounds like your card has a RAM fault that shows up at low
resolutions (eg 720 x 400 @ 70Hz) but not at 1024 x 768.

IME these pixel faults usually appear in regularly spaced vertical
lines.

Do you see the bad pixels if you go to a Windows DOS box and use
Alt-Enter to switch to full screen mode?

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
 
A

Adam

"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
news:eek:c6td4dr65ue86slttmsv6f3t4lmi5os9n@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:28:28 -0700, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> put
> finger to keyboard and composed:
>
> >Actually, the "after market heatsink" that I attached to
> >the GPU is a VGA cooler. I'm not sure what happened but
> >there's still a shower of bad pixels when I first boot up.
> >I see the bad pixels when the Windows logo is displayed.
> >But, after the system goes into Win98SE,
> >no more shower of bad pixels. Strange!

>
> It sounds like your card has a RAM fault that shows up at low
> resolutions (eg 720 x 400 @ 70Hz) but not at 1024 x 768.
>
> IME these pixel faults usually appear in regularly spaced vertical
> lines.
>


That's right ... they're vertical "shower-like" (not solid) lines.


> Do you see the bad pixels if you go to a Windows DOS box and use
> Alt-Enter to switch to full screen mode?
>
> - Franc Zabkar
> --
> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.


No, I do not see the shower of bad pixels when using ALT+ENTER to
switch the MS-DOS Prompt between a window and full screen.
 
D

Dan

I would buy a new ATI graphics card. The ATI Radeon 9800 XT that I have is a
great card that works in Windows 98 Second Edition and is still even
supported in Windows Vista and runs about $70 on Ebay. It cost me over $100
when I bought it on Ebay but it is still going strong. Please make sure you
have a strong enough power supply for it. I would suggest at least 300
watts. Anyway, you have heard my thoughts on it Adam and please keep us
informed with your decision and let the 98 general newsgroup walk you through
any steps that you have difficulty with if you decide to buy a new graphics
card that works in Windows 98 Second Edition.

"Adam" wrote:

> Thanks!
>
> Yes, I believe that is the case but I can check again.
> Also, I have tried ...
> 1) booting into safe mode with the suspected ATI video card
> [which shows shower of bad pixel zoomed in]
> 2) using a different PCI video card instead
> [no shower of bad pixel with a different PCI video card]
> 3) plug the monitor to another system (a laptop)
> [no shower of bad pixel with another system so monitor is clear]
>
> Everything seems to point to the suspected ATI video card.
>
> FYI, when the factory fan was removed, I had to
> clean off the old paste with rubbing alcohol before
> applying new paste to attach the VGA cooler.
> This was done as cautiously as possible but
> it's only my first time removing/applying paste. So,
> I'm not sure whether this might have caused the problem.
>
>
> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:D2CFC1BE-320E-4D66-9B52-84566478B8C5@microsoft.com...
> > Sure, I can ask. Please give me a few days. BTW, Adam, have you made sure
> > that you do not have any loose connections and the dust is clear from your
> > machine as well as all the connections in the right place for your computer,
> > right?
> >
> >
> > "Adam" wrote:
> >
> > > It's nice to have helpful friends. Like you, I'm not that
> > > comfortable with taking hardware components apart to fix.
> > > If it weren't for all the helpful friends on the newsgroups, internet, etc.,
> > > I would not have been able to put my own computer system together.
> > > No way, no how.
> > >
> > > Actually, the "after market heatsink" that I attached to
> > > the GPU is a VGA cooler. I'm not sure what happened but
> > > there's still a shower of bad pixels when I first boot up.
> > > I see the bad pixels when the Windows logo is displayed.
> > > But, after the system goes into Win98SE,
> > > no more shower of bad pixels. Strange!
> > > Wonder if your video expert friend, Jeff,
> > > might know what the problem might be.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:67FD601F-9FAB-405F-8D8D-3577BC27064E@microsoft.com...
> > > > My friend Jeff helped me replace a fan that was giving me a BIOS error
> > > > message and my system now works great. Jeff also helped me replace burned
> > > > out LCD lights. I enjoy working with the software side but am still too
> > > > limited on the hardware side because I am always concerned I will break a
> > > > piece on the hardware side but software does break but it is just so much
> > > > easier for me to work with because my hands on skills with computers as

> far
> > > > as the hardware side is not too great. I can change memory modules and
> > > > graphics and sound cards and easy things like that but still need help

> from
> > > > an expert when it comes to actually building my machine. It was nice

> because
> > > > the fan replacement was fairly cheap and I think it was about $5-$10

> dollars.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Adam" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Yes, I like my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro video card very much also.
> > > > > The only problem that I've had with it is the fan stopped working,
> > > > > which I worked around with an after market heatsink combined with
> > > > > blowing a small $10 fan into the open case.
> > > > >
> > > > > My previous video card used to use an NVIDIA graphics chipset,
> > > > > which left me with a bad after taste.
> > > > >
> > > > > My AMD CPU system has served me well.
> > > > > I might build an Intel CPU system one day.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:68C45AD2-C0C1-42FB-9F42-6F1510889765@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > I bought a new LCD monitor not very long ago because the screen size

> on my
> > > > > > old CRT Optiquest Monitor kept getting smaller and smaller because it

> was
> > > > > > wearing out. I am happy with my current monitor and it is a Viewsonic
> > > > > > monitor with a VGA connection. I was also considering a Samsung

> monitor
> > > but
> > > > > > decided not to go with DVI even though my graphics card could support

> it.
> > > I
> > > > > > currently use an ATI Radeon 9800 XT graphics card which I find to be
> > > really
> > > > > > awesome and do not want to change it until I have to in the future.
> > > > > > Fortunately, most of the games coming out require ATI Radeon 9500 or
> > > better
> > > > > > since ATI continues to support their graphics cards that are Radeon

> 9500
> > > and
> > > > > > better for games. I know Nvidia is the current leader but ever since

> the
> > > > > > failed update from a 3dfx graphics card to an Nvidia G-Force and then

> the
> > > > > > successful update from the 3dfx graphics card to the ATI Radeon card,

> I
> > > have
> > > > > > been an ATI fan and have found their customer service to be helpful to

> me
> > > as
> > > > > > well as their backwards compatibility. The thing is that I like Intel
> > > CPU's
> > > > > > better than AMD CPU's so I find the only way to keep me happy is to

> have a
> > > > > > fully customized machine that I suggest to everyone who enjoys working
> > > with
> > > > > > their computers(s).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Adam" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:hutnd49gdloql7thpptbteq3nmuvkro9tv@4ax.com...
> > > > > > > > On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:13:30 -0700, "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com>

> put
> > > > > > > > finger to keyboard and composed:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Not sure what's the best newsgroup for this topic so here goes

> ....
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >I'm thinking about replacing my ViewSonic P815 monitor from CRT

> to
> > > LCD.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm assuming that you will attach your monitor to a Win98 box, and

> I'm
> > > > > > > > also assuming that your video card is not the latest and greatest.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If so, then I'd be careful that any monitor I chose had a native
> > > > > > > > resolution that was supported by my card.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > - Franc Zabkar
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have the following video card ...
> > > > > > > - ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB 256-bit DDR 8x AGP
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It should work fine with the dual LCD monitor setup, right?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > BTW, in case you're wondering why I'm thinking about
> > > > > > > replacing my beloved ViewSonic P815 CRT monitor,
> > > > > > > the bulky size (depth-wise) pushes the monitor too far forward or
> > > > > > > too close, which is causing me to have nearsighted vision and
> > > > > > > destroying my farsighted vision.
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >

>
>
 
A

Adam

Thanks but I'll decide whether to buy or not when/if
my video card dies. -)


"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:985BA943-A488-4C74-9DA9-7FED45FFB056@microsoft.com...
> I would buy a new ATI graphics card. The ATI Radeon 9800 XT that I have is a
> great card that works in Windows 98 Second Edition and is still even
> supported in Windows Vista and runs about $70 on Ebay. It cost me over $100
> when I bought it on Ebay but it is still going strong. Please make sure you
> have a strong enough power supply for it. I would suggest at least 300
> watts. Anyway, you have heard my thoughts on it Adam and please keep us
> informed with your decision and let the 98 general newsgroup walk you through
> any steps that you have difficulty with if you decide to buy a new graphics
> card that works in Windows 98 Second Edition.
>
>
> "Adam" wrote:
>
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Yes, I believe that is the case but I can check again.
> > Also, I have tried ...
> > 1) booting into safe mode with the suspected ATI video card
> > [which shows shower of bad pixel zoomed in]
> > 2) using a different PCI video card instead
> > [no shower of bad pixel with a different PCI video card]
> > 3) plug the monitor to another system (a laptop)
> > [no shower of bad pixel with another system so monitor is clear]
> >
> > Everything seems to point to the suspected ATI video card.
> >
> > FYI, when the factory fan was removed, I had to
> > clean off the old paste with rubbing alcohol before
> > applying new paste to attach the VGA cooler.
> > This was done as cautiously as possible but
> > it's only my first time removing/applying paste. So,
> > I'm not sure whether this might have caused the problem.
> >
> >
> > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:D2CFC1BE-320E-4D66-9B52-84566478B8C5@microsoft.com...
> > > Sure, I can ask. Please give me a few days. BTW, Adam, have you made

sure
> > > that you do not have any loose connections and the dust is clear from your
> > > machine as well as all the connections in the right place for your

computer,
> > > right?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Adam" wrote:
> > >
> > > > It's nice to have helpful friends. Like you, I'm not that
> > > > comfortable with taking hardware components apart to fix.
> > > > If it weren't for all the helpful friends on the newsgroups, internet,

etc.,
> > > > I would not have been able to put my own computer system together.
> > > > No way, no how.
> > > >
> > > > Actually, the "after market heatsink" that I attached to
> > > > the GPU is a VGA cooler. I'm not sure what happened but
> > > > there's still a shower of bad pixels when I first boot up.
> > > > I see the bad pixels when the Windows logo is displayed.
> > > > But, after the system goes into Win98SE,
> > > > no more shower of bad pixels. Strange!
> > > > Wonder if your video expert friend, Jeff,
> > > > might know what the problem might be.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:67FD601F-9FAB-405F-8D8D-3577BC27064E@microsoft.com...
> > > > > My friend Jeff helped me replace a fan that was giving me a BIOS error
> > > > > message and my system now works great. Jeff also helped me replace

burned
> > > > > out LCD lights. I enjoy working with the software side but am still

too
> > > > > limited on the hardware side because I am always concerned I will

break a
> > > > > piece on the hardware side but software does break but it is just so

much
> > > > > easier for me to work with because my hands on skills with computers

as
> > far
> > > > > as the hardware side is not too great. I can change memory modules

and
> > > > > graphics and sound cards and easy things like that but still need help

> > from
> > > > > an expert when it comes to actually building my machine. It was nice

> > because
> > > > > the fan replacement was fairly cheap and I think it was about $5-$10

> > dollars.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Adam" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, I like my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro video card very much also.
> > > > > > The only problem that I've had with it is the fan stopped working,
> > > > > > which I worked around with an after market heatsink combined with
> > > > > > blowing a small $10 fan into the open case.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My previous video card used to use an NVIDIA graphics chipset,
> > > > > > which left me with a bad after taste.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My AMD CPU system has served me well.
> > > > > > I might build an Intel CPU system one day.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:68C45AD2-C0C1-42FB-9F42-6F1510889765@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > I bought a new LCD monitor not very long ago because the screen

size
> > on my
> > > > > > > old CRT Optiquest Monitor kept getting smaller and smaller because

it
> > was
> > > > > > > wearing out. I am happy with my current monitor and it is a

Viewsonic
> > > > > > > monitor with a VGA connection. I was also considering a Samsung

> > monitor
> > > > but
> > > > > > > decided not to go with DVI even though my graphics card could

support
> > it.
> > > > I
> > > > > > > currently use an ATI Radeon 9800 XT graphics card which I find to

be
> > > > really
> > > > > > > awesome and do not want to change it until I have to in the

future.
> > > > > > > Fortunately, most of the games coming out require ATI Radeon 9500

or
> > > > better
> > > > > > > since ATI continues to support their graphics cards that are

Radeon
> > 9500
> > > > and
> > > > > > > better for games. I know Nvidia is the current leader but ever

since
> > the
> > > > > > > failed update from a 3dfx graphics card to an Nvidia G-Force and

then
> > the
> > > > > > > successful update from the 3dfx graphics card to the ATI Radeon

card,
> > I
> > > > have
> > > > > > > been an ATI fan and have found their customer service to be

helpful to
> > me
> > > > as
> > > > > > > well as their backwards compatibility. The thing is that I like

Intel
> > > > CPU's
> > > > > > > better than AMD CPU's so I find the only way to keep me happy is

to
> > have a
> > > > > > > fully customized machine that I suggest to everyone who enjoys

working
> > > > with
> > > > > > > their computers(s).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Adam" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:hutnd49gdloql7thpptbteq3nmuvkro9tv@4ax.com...
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:13:30 -0700, "Adam"

<adam@no_thanks.com>
> > put
> > > > > > > > > finger to keyboard and composed:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Not sure what's the best newsgroup for this topic so here

goes
> > ....
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >I'm thinking about replacing my ViewSonic P815 monitor from

CRT
> > to
> > > > LCD.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm assuming that you will attach your monitor to a Win98 box,

and
> > I'm
> > > > > > > > > also assuming that your video card is not the latest and

greatest.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If so, then I'd be careful that any monitor I chose had a

native
> > > > > > > > > resolution that was supported by my card.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > - Franc Zabkar
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have the following video card ...
> > > > > > > > - ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB 256-bit DDR 8x AGP
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It should work fine with the dual LCD monitor setup, right?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > BTW, in case you're wondering why I'm thinking about
> > > > > > > > replacing my beloved ViewSonic P815 CRT monitor,
> > > > > > > > the bulky size (depth-wise) pushes the monitor too far forward

or
> > > > > > > > too close, which is causing me to have nearsighted vision and
> > > > > > > > destroying my farsighted vision.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >

> >
> >
 
T

thanatoid

"Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in
news:xFeGk.1814$Ei5.839@flpi143.ffdc.sbc.com:

> Thanks but I'll decide whether to buy or not when/if
> my video card dies. -)


While you're at it, oh appreciative-of-helpful-suggestions-Adam,
why don't you try deciding how to achieve the oh-so-difficult
task of moving your computer desk/setup/monitor so it does not
cause you any problems?

(BTW, your monitor is NOT destroying your vision, nothing short
of prolonged direct XRay or 100% paint thinner or a sewing
needle "application" can actually HURT your eyes. You're just
getting old. Welcome to the club.)


--
Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the
votes decide everything.
- Josef Stalin
 
D

Dan

It is your choice of course.

"Adam" wrote:

> Thanks but I'll decide whether to buy or not when/if
> my video card dies. -)
>
>
> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:985BA943-A488-4C74-9DA9-7FED45FFB056@microsoft.com...
> > I would buy a new ATI graphics card. The ATI Radeon 9800 XT that I have is a
> > great card that works in Windows 98 Second Edition and is still even
> > supported in Windows Vista and runs about $70 on Ebay. It cost me over $100
> > when I bought it on Ebay but it is still going strong. Please make sure you
> > have a strong enough power supply for it. I would suggest at least 300
> > watts. Anyway, you have heard my thoughts on it Adam and please keep us
> > informed with your decision and let the 98 general newsgroup walk you through
> > any steps that you have difficulty with if you decide to buy a new graphics
> > card that works in Windows 98 Second Edition.
> >
> >
> > "Adam" wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Yes, I believe that is the case but I can check again.
> > > Also, I have tried ...
> > > 1) booting into safe mode with the suspected ATI video card
> > > [which shows shower of bad pixel zoomed in]
> > > 2) using a different PCI video card instead
> > > [no shower of bad pixel with a different PCI video card]
> > > 3) plug the monitor to another system (a laptop)
> > > [no shower of bad pixel with another system so monitor is clear]
> > >
> > > Everything seems to point to the suspected ATI video card.
> > >
> > > FYI, when the factory fan was removed, I had to
> > > clean off the old paste with rubbing alcohol before
> > > applying new paste to attach the VGA cooler.
> > > This was done as cautiously as possible but
> > > it's only my first time removing/applying paste. So,
> > > I'm not sure whether this might have caused the problem.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:D2CFC1BE-320E-4D66-9B52-84566478B8C5@microsoft.com...
> > > > Sure, I can ask. Please give me a few days. BTW, Adam, have you made

> sure
> > > > that you do not have any loose connections and the dust is clear from your
> > > > machine as well as all the connections in the right place for your

> computer,
> > > > right?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Adam" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It's nice to have helpful friends. Like you, I'm not that
> > > > > comfortable with taking hardware components apart to fix.
> > > > > If it weren't for all the helpful friends on the newsgroups, internet,

> etc.,
> > > > > I would not have been able to put my own computer system together.
> > > > > No way, no how.
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually, the "after market heatsink" that I attached to
> > > > > the GPU is a VGA cooler. I'm not sure what happened but
> > > > > there's still a shower of bad pixels when I first boot up.
> > > > > I see the bad pixels when the Windows logo is displayed.
> > > > > But, after the system goes into Win98SE,
> > > > > no more shower of bad pixels. Strange!
> > > > > Wonder if your video expert friend, Jeff,
> > > > > might know what the problem might be.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:67FD601F-9FAB-405F-8D8D-3577BC27064E@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > My friend Jeff helped me replace a fan that was giving me a BIOS error
> > > > > > message and my system now works great. Jeff also helped me replace

> burned
> > > > > > out LCD lights. I enjoy working with the software side but am still

> too
> > > > > > limited on the hardware side because I am always concerned I will

> break a
> > > > > > piece on the hardware side but software does break but it is just so

> much
> > > > > > easier for me to work with because my hands on skills with computers

> as
> > > far
> > > > > > as the hardware side is not too great. I can change memory modules

> and
> > > > > > graphics and sound cards and easy things like that but still need help
> > > from
> > > > > > an expert when it comes to actually building my machine. It was nice
> > > because
> > > > > > the fan replacement was fairly cheap and I think it was about $5-$10
> > > dollars.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Adam" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes, I like my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro video card very much also.
> > > > > > > The only problem that I've had with it is the fan stopped working,
> > > > > > > which I worked around with an after market heatsink combined with
> > > > > > > blowing a small $10 fan into the open case.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My previous video card used to use an NVIDIA graphics chipset,
> > > > > > > which left me with a bad after taste.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My AMD CPU system has served me well.
> > > > > > > I might build an Intel CPU system one day.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:68C45AD2-C0C1-42FB-9F42-6F1510889765@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > > I bought a new LCD monitor not very long ago because the screen

> size
> > > on my
> > > > > > > > old CRT Optiquest Monitor kept getting smaller and smaller because

> it
> > > was
> > > > > > > > wearing out. I am happy with my current monitor and it is a

> Viewsonic
> > > > > > > > monitor with a VGA connection. I was also considering a Samsung
> > > monitor
> > > > > but
> > > > > > > > decided not to go with DVI even though my graphics card could

> support
> > > it.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > > currently use an ATI Radeon 9800 XT graphics card which I find to

> be
> > > > > really
> > > > > > > > awesome and do not want to change it until I have to in the

> future.
> > > > > > > > Fortunately, most of the games coming out require ATI Radeon 9500

> or
> > > > > better
> > > > > > > > since ATI continues to support their graphics cards that are

> Radeon
> > > 9500
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > better for games. I know Nvidia is the current leader but ever

> since
> > > the
> > > > > > > > failed update from a 3dfx graphics card to an Nvidia G-Force and

> then
> > > the
> > > > > > > > successful update from the 3dfx graphics card to the ATI Radeon

> card,
> > > I
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > > been an ATI fan and have found their customer service to be

> helpful to
> > > me
> > > > > as
> > > > > > > > well as their backwards compatibility. The thing is that I like

> Intel
> > > > > CPU's
> > > > > > > > better than AMD CPU's so I find the only way to keep me happy is

> to
> > > have a
> > > > > > > > fully customized machine that I suggest to everyone who enjoys

> working
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > > their computers(s).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Adam" wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > news:hutnd49gdloql7thpptbteq3nmuvkro9tv@4ax.com...
> > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:13:30 -0700, "Adam"

> <adam@no_thanks.com>
> > > put
> > > > > > > > > > finger to keyboard and composed:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >Not sure what's the best newsgroup for this topic so here

> goes
> > > ....
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >I'm thinking about replacing my ViewSonic P815 monitor from

> CRT
> > > to
> > > > > LCD.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I'm assuming that you will attach your monitor to a Win98 box,

> and
> > > I'm
> > > > > > > > > > also assuming that your video card is not the latest and

> greatest.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > If so, then I'd be careful that any monitor I chose had a

> native
> > > > > > > > > > resolution that was supported by my card.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > - Franc Zabkar
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I have the following video card ...
> > > > > > > > > - ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB 256-bit DDR 8x AGP
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It should work fine with the dual LCD monitor setup, right?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > BTW, in case you're wondering why I'm thinking about
> > > > > > > > > replacing my beloved ViewSonic P815 CRT monitor,
> > > > > > > > > the bulky size (depth-wise) pushes the monitor too far forward

> or
> > > > > > > > > too close, which is causing me to have nearsighted vision and
> > > > > > > > > destroying my farsighted vision.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >

>
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