click-jacking - how many times must you be warned?

[MEB]

Well, yet another aspect of what I have presented in this forum has now
been addressed. More of the malicious activity we find spreading across the
Internet.

Click-jacking

http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1972&tag=nl.e539
From the article:
QUOTE:
With this exploit, once you're on the malicious web page, the bad guy can
make you click on any link, any button, or anything on the page without you
even seeing it happening.
[ SEE: Adobe Flash ads launching clipboard hijack attack ]
If that's not scary enough, consider than the average end user would have no
idea what's going on during a Clickjack attack.
END QUOTE

This is a cross-browser exploit NOT OS specific ... make an effort to try
to understand WHY it works, HOW it works, then think carefully about your
Internet usage AND why firewalls and YOUR PERSONAL SETTINGS AND USAGE might
be able to help.

Might also want to think about the other exploits out there you HAVEN'T yet
been informed of or have made the "news" [embedded code in video, music, and
other nifty stuff.....like using port 443 to inject things you wouldn't
normally allow or which would have been blocked otherwise...].

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~

 

[Dan]

Thanks, MEB. I say about this on the US-CERT Website. I have since removed
Adobe Flash Player in Windows 98 Second Edition and I certainly actually
prefer not having it because many of the annoying ads use flash player and
now cannot run without flash player. I certainly like Windows 98 Second
Edition while running programs that are still supported by 3rd party because
it has yet to fail me. The only failures I have come across with Windows 98
Second Edition recently have to do with Internet Explorer and those were
Denial of Service Errors and one recent freezing of the machine. Thankfully,
I have seen no Blue Screens of Death with Windows 98 Second Edition for a
while now. In Windows XP Professional, my Ipod Mini 6 gigabytes choked when
I connected it to the machine and slowed everything to a crawl. I tried
exiting out of stuff and some stuff would not close and then tried shutting
down and experienced a freeze in XP Professional which required my to hit the
reset button on my computer. The computer loaded Windows XP Professional
fine and then synched the Ipod Mini with Itunes like there had not been any
problem at all. I have not had any problems since with that issue. I have
gotten back my Toshiba notebook computer with the oem version of Windows
Vista Home Premium with all new loaded crap-ware but have not used it much
and now must decide if I want to buy a retail version of Windows Vista Home
Premium or Windows Vista Business or Windows Ultimate or if I should just
format the computer and put either Windows XP Professional or Ubuntu Linux on
it. Do you have any suggestions about which would be best and why. BTW, I
agree that click-jacking is a big problem and people need to be careful and
nowadays you need to be even careful about moving your mouse over certain
areas of web sites too.

"MEB" wrote:

>
> Well, yet another aspect of what I have presented in this forum has now
> been addressed. More of the malicious activity we find spreading across the
> Internet.
>
> Click-jacking
>
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1972&tag=nl.e539
> From the article:
> QUOTE:
> With this exploit, once you're on the malicious web page, the bad guy can
> make you click on any link, any button, or anything on the page without you
> even seeing it happening.
> [ SEE: Adobe Flash ads launching clipboard hijack attack ]
> If that's not scary enough, consider than the average end user would have no
> idea what's going on during a Clickjack attack.
> END QUOTE
>
> This is a cross-browser exploit NOT OS specific ... make an effort to try
> to understand WHY it works, HOW it works, then think carefully about your
> Internet usage AND why firewalls and YOUR PERSONAL SETTINGS AND USAGE might
> be able to help.
>
> Might also want to think about the other exploits out there you HAVEN'T yet
> been informed of or have made the "news" [embedded code in video, music, and
> other nifty stuff.....like using port 443 to inject things you wouldn't
> normally allow or which would have been blocked otherwise...].
>
> --
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.org
> a Peoples' counsel
> _ _
> ~~
>
>
>

 

[MEB]

About the only thing I can say related to what OS,,
Microsoft extended the VISTA to XP roll-back for another six months, so it
might be advisable to think about it carefully. Not that it extends support
though.

And related to Linux,,, unless you understand that Linux is NOT Windows,
and will take some getting used to, you will likely not like it. It is more
secure, but DOES require you make an effort to understand the OS. You
actually have to use your mental abilities and spend some time learning it,
something Windows users of today aren't to familiar with.


--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~
"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5EC7AECA-22C7-4432-9FE3-35769AEA46D8@microsoft.com...
| Thanks, MEB. I say about this on the US-CERT Website. I have since
removed
| Adobe Flash Player in Windows 98 Second Edition and I certainly actually
| prefer not having it because many of the annoying ads use flash player and
| now cannot run without flash player. I certainly like Windows 98 Second
| Edition while running programs that are still supported by 3rd party
because
| it has yet to fail me. The only failures I have come across with Windows
98
| Second Edition recently have to do with Internet Explorer and those were
| Denial of Service Errors and one recent freezing of the machine.
Thankfully,
| I have seen no Blue Screens of Death with Windows 98 Second Edition for a
| while now. In Windows XP Professional, my Ipod Mini 6 gigabytes choked
when
| I connected it to the machine and slowed everything to a crawl. I tried
| exiting out of stuff and some stuff would not close and then tried
shutting
| down and experienced a freeze in XP Professional which required my to hit
the
| reset button on my computer. The computer loaded Windows XP Professional
| fine and then synched the Ipod Mini with Itunes like there had not been
any
| problem at all. I have not had any problems since with that issue. I
have
| gotten back my Toshiba notebook computer with the oem version of Windows
| Vista Home Premium with all new loaded crap-ware but have not used it much
| and now must decide if I want to buy a retail version of Windows Vista
Home
| Premium or Windows Vista Business or Windows Ultimate or if I should just
| format the computer and put either Windows XP Professional or Ubuntu Linux
on
| it. Do you have any suggestions about which would be best and why. BTW,
I
| agree that click-jacking is a big problem and people need to be careful
and
| nowadays you need to be even careful about moving your mouse over certain
| areas of web sites too.
|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
| >
| > Well, yet another aspect of what I have presented in this forum has now
| > been addressed. More of the malicious activity we find spreading across
the
| > Internet.
| >
| > Click-jacking
| >
| > http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1972&tag=nl.e539
| > From the article:
| > QUOTE:
| > With this exploit, once you're on the malicious web page, the bad guy
can
| > make you click on any link, any button, or anything on the page without
you
| > even seeing it happening.
| > [ SEE: Adobe Flash ads launching clipboard hijack attack ]
| > If that's not scary enough, consider than the average end user would
have no
| > idea what's going on during a Clickjack attack.
| > END QUOTE
| >
| > This is a cross-browser exploit NOT OS specific ... make an effort to
try
| > to understand WHY it works, HOW it works, then think carefully about
your
| > Internet usage AND why firewalls and YOUR PERSONAL SETTINGS AND USAGE
might
| > be able to help.
| >
| > Might also want to think about the other exploits out there you HAVEN'T
yet
| > been informed of or have made the "news" [embedded code in video, music,
and
| > other nifty stuff.....like using port 443 to inject things you wouldn't
| > normally allow or which would have been blocked otherwise...].
| >
| > --
| > MEB
| > http://peoplescounsel.org
| > a Peoples' counsel
| > _ _
| > ~~
| >
| >
| >

 

[Dan]

Thanks for your feedback, MEB. I would be Windows 98 Second Edition on it
but I know it cannot be fully supported due to such technologies as
PCI-Express not being supported in 98 Second Edition. I am still tempted to
buy an older laptop perhaps from Ebay and put Windows 98 Second Edition on it
especially because of the September 2007 incident when XP Professional failed
and allowed access from VPN connection to APS network and 98 Second Edition
just crashed the application with a denial of service error but fortunately
did not allow access. This raised my confidence in Windows 98 Second Edition
greatly.

"MEB" wrote:

> About the only thing I can say related to what OS,,
> Microsoft extended the VISTA to XP roll-back for another six months, so it
> might be advisable to think about it carefully. Not that it extends support
> though.
>
> And related to Linux,,, unless you understand that Linux is NOT Windows,
> and will take some getting used to, you will likely not like it. It is more
> secure, but DOES require you make an effort to understand the OS. You
> actually have to use your mental abilities and spend some time learning it,
> something Windows users of today aren't to familiar with.
>
>
> --
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.org
> a Peoples' counsel
> _ _
> ~~
> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5EC7AECA-22C7-4432-9FE3-35769AEA46D8@microsoft.com...
> | Thanks, MEB. I say about this on the US-CERT Website. I have since
> removed
> | Adobe Flash Player in Windows 98 Second Edition and I certainly actually
> | prefer not having it because many of the annoying ads use flash player and
> | now cannot run without flash player. I certainly like Windows 98 Second
> | Edition while running programs that are still supported by 3rd party
> because
> | it has yet to fail me. The only failures I have come across with Windows
> 98
> | Second Edition recently have to do with Internet Explorer and those were
> | Denial of Service Errors and one recent freezing of the machine.
> Thankfully,
> | I have seen no Blue Screens of Death with Windows 98 Second Edition for a
> | while now. In Windows XP Professional, my Ipod Mini 6 gigabytes choked
> when
> | I connected it to the machine and slowed everything to a crawl. I tried
> | exiting out of stuff and some stuff would not close and then tried
> shutting
> | down and experienced a freeze in XP Professional which required my to hit
> the
> | reset button on my computer. The computer loaded Windows XP Professional
> | fine and then synched the Ipod Mini with Itunes like there had not been
> any
> | problem at all. I have not had any problems since with that issue. I
> have
> | gotten back my Toshiba notebook computer with the oem version of Windows
> | Vista Home Premium with all new loaded crap-ware but have not used it much
> | and now must decide if I want to buy a retail version of Windows Vista
> Home
> | Premium or Windows Vista Business or Windows Ultimate or if I should just
> | format the computer and put either Windows XP Professional or Ubuntu Linux
> on
> | it. Do you have any suggestions about which would be best and why. BTW,
> I
> | agree that click-jacking is a big problem and people need to be careful
> and
> | nowadays you need to be even careful about moving your mouse over certain
> | areas of web sites too.
> |
> | "MEB" wrote:
> |
> | >
> | > Well, yet another aspect of what I have presented in this forum has now
> | > been addressed. More of the malicious activity we find spreading across
> the
> | > Internet.
> | >
> | > Click-jacking
> | >
> | > http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1972&tag=nl.e539
> | > From the article:
> | > QUOTE:
> | > With this exploit, once you're on the malicious web page, the bad guy
> can
> | > make you click on any link, any button, or anything on the page without
> you
> | > even seeing it happening.
> | > [ SEE: Adobe Flash ads launching clipboard hijack attack ]
> | > If that's not scary enough, consider than the average end user would
> have no
> | > idea what's going on during a Clickjack attack.
> | > END QUOTE
> | >
> | > This is a cross-browser exploit NOT OS specific ... make an effort to
> try
> | > to understand WHY it works, HOW it works, then think carefully about
> your
> | > Internet usage AND why firewalls and YOUR PERSONAL SETTINGS AND USAGE
> might
> | > be able to help.
> | >
> | > Might also want to think about the other exploits out there you HAVEN'T
> yet
> | > been informed of or have made the "news" [embedded code in video, music,
> and
> | > other nifty stuff.....like using port 443 to inject things you wouldn't
> | > normally allow or which would have been blocked otherwise...].
> | >
> | > --
> | > MEB
> | > http://peoplescounsel.org
> | > a Peoples' counsel
> | > _ _
> | > ~~
> | >
> | >
> | >
>
>
>

 

[FromTheRafters]

If they had had a Windows for Workgroups computer also,
and it wasn't affected at all, would you say it was even safer
than Win98SE?

You draw the strangest conclusions from that experience you
endlessly expound upon.

I suggest WinXP for your laptop - You wouldn't be able to
figure out how to use Vista without crippling the security, and
it is easier to to cripple XP than it is to cripple Vista.

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A41F6638-289F-48FA-851D-090E9EBA9CA0@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for your feedback, MEB. I would be Windows 98 Second Edition on it
> but I know it cannot be fully supported due to such technologies as
> PCI-Express not being supported in 98 Second Edition. I am still tempted
> to
> buy an older laptop perhaps from Ebay and put Windows 98 Second Edition on
> it
> especially because of the September 2007 incident when XP Professional
> failed
> and allowed access from VPN connection to APS network and 98 Second
> Edition
> just crashed the application with a denial of service error but
> fortunately
> did not allow access. This raised my confidence in Windows 98 Second
> Edition
> greatly.
>
> "MEB" wrote:
>
>> About the only thing I can say related to what OS,,
>> Microsoft extended the VISTA to XP roll-back for another six months, so
>> it
>> might be advisable to think about it carefully. Not that it extends
>> support
>> though.
>>
>> And related to Linux,,, unless you understand that Linux is NOT Windows,
>> and will take some getting used to, you will likely not like it. It is
>> more
>> secure, but DOES require you make an effort to understand the OS. You
>> actually have to use your mental abilities and spend some time learning
>> it,
>> something Windows users of today aren't to familiar with.
>>
>>
>> --
>> MEB
>> http://peoplescounsel.org
>> a Peoples' counsel
>> _ _
>> ~~
>> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:5EC7AECA-22C7-4432-9FE3-35769AEA46D8@microsoft.com...
>> | Thanks, MEB. I say about this on the US-CERT Website. I have since
>> removed
>> | Adobe Flash Player in Windows 98 Second Edition and I certainly
>> actually
>> | prefer not having it because many of the annoying ads use flash player
>> and
>> | now cannot run without flash player. I certainly like Windows 98
>> Second
>> | Edition while running programs that are still supported by 3rd party
>> because
>> | it has yet to fail me. The only failures I have come across with
>> Windows
>> 98
>> | Second Edition recently have to do with Internet Explorer and those
>> were
>> | Denial of Service Errors and one recent freezing of the machine.
>> Thankfully,
>> | I have seen no Blue Screens of Death with Windows 98 Second Edition for
>> a
>> | while now. In Windows XP Professional, my Ipod Mini 6 gigabytes choked
>> when
>> | I connected it to the machine and slowed everything to a crawl. I
>> tried
>> | exiting out of stuff and some stuff would not close and then tried
>> shutting
>> | down and experienced a freeze in XP Professional which required my to
>> hit
>> the
>> | reset button on my computer. The computer loaded Windows XP
>> Professional
>> | fine and then synched the Ipod Mini with Itunes like there had not been
>> any
>> | problem at all. I have not had any problems since with that issue. I
>> have
>> | gotten back my Toshiba notebook computer with the oem version of
>> Windows
>> | Vista Home Premium with all new loaded crap-ware but have not used it
>> much
>> | and now must decide if I want to buy a retail version of Windows Vista
>> Home
>> | Premium or Windows Vista Business or Windows Ultimate or if I should
>> just
>> | format the computer and put either Windows XP Professional or Ubuntu
>> Linux
>> on
>> | it. Do you have any suggestions about which would be best and why.
>> BTW,
>> I
>> | agree that click-jacking is a big problem and people need to be careful
>> and
>> | nowadays you need to be even careful about moving your mouse over
>> certain
>> | areas of web sites too.
>> |
>> | "MEB" wrote:
>> |
>> | >
>> | > Well, yet another aspect of what I have presented in this forum has
>> now
>> | > been addressed. More of the malicious activity we find spreading
>> across
>> the
>> | > Internet.
>> | >
>> | > Click-jacking
>> | >
>> | > http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1972&tag=nl.e539
>> | > From the article:
>> | > QUOTE:
>> | > With this exploit, once you're on the malicious web page, the bad guy
>> can
>> | > make you click on any link, any button, or anything on the page
>> without
>> you
>> | > even seeing it happening.
>> | > [ SEE: Adobe Flash ads launching clipboard hijack attack ]
>> | > If that's not scary enough, consider than the average end user would
>> have no
>> | > idea what's going on during a Clickjack attack.
>> | > END QUOTE
>> | >
>> | > This is a cross-browser exploit NOT OS specific ... make an effort
>> to
>> try
>> | > to understand WHY it works, HOW it works, then think carefully about
>> your
>> | > Internet usage AND why firewalls and YOUR PERSONAL SETTINGS AND USAGE
>> might
>> | > be able to help.
>> | >
>> | > Might also want to think about the other exploits out there you
>> HAVEN'T
>> yet
>> | > been informed of or have made the "news" [embedded code in video,
>> music,
>> and
>> | > other nifty stuff.....like using port 443 to inject things you
>> wouldn't
>> | > normally allow or which would have been blocked otherwise...].
>> | >
>> | > --
>> | > MEB
>> | > http://peoplescounsel.org
>> | > a Peoples' counsel
>> | > _ _
>> | > ~~
>> | >
>> | >
>> | >
>>
>>
>>

 

[Dan]

Thanks for your suggestion anyway but I will go with a retail copy of Vista
or go with Ubuntu Linux on my laptop. Remember, the more services provided
the easier it is to hack into operating systems and a big problem with XP
Professional is the remote access which can be hacked into. Please see the
following websites for more information:

http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/riskfix.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_procedure_call

http://cquirke.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!C7DAB1E724AB8C23!336.entry

http://support.microsoft.com/gp/msim_win98

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=11573761&postID=8512976766347681682

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/22/


Vendor, Links, and Unpatched Vulnerabilities

Vendor Microsoft

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Affected By 220 Secunia advisories
203 Vulnerabilities

Monitor Product Receive alerts for this product

Unpatched 14% (31 of 220 Secunia advisories)

Most Critical Unpatched
The most severe unpatched Secunia advisory affecting Microsoft Windows XP
Professional, with all vendor patches applied, is rated Moderately critical .

http://secunia.com/advisories/product/13/

Vendor, Links, and Unpatched Vulnerabilities

Vendor Microsoft

Product Link N/A

Affected By 32 Secunia advisories
21 Vulnerabilities

Monitor Product Receive alerts for this product

Unpatched 9% (3 of 32 Secunia advisories)

Most Critical Unpatched
The most severe unpatched Secunia advisory affecting Microsoft Windows 98
Second Edition, with all vendor patches applied, is rated Less critical .

Okay, now 3 unpatched vulnerabilities in Windows 98 Second Edition compared
to 31 unpatched vulnerabilities in Windows XP Professional is a no brainer
and 98 SE having only less critical compared to moderately critical
vulnerabilities in XP Professional.

Note, I still would make sure to use Windows 98 Second Edition in a safe
manner meaning that the user runs supported browsers like Mozilla Firefox 2.x
for now and/or Opera and/or another browser and not use Internet Explorer
ever once Windows Update is fully up to date.

2. This includes not using unsupported editions of Windows Media Player 9
when connected to the Internet in 98 Second Edition as well as other
unsupported software

3. I am using Office XP Professional in 98 Second Edition and I just
manually update it with the latest updates since the automation tool is for
Windows 2000 and above and this is fine because I like doing things manually
anyway.

4. Finally, practice safe browsing, block third party cookies, read in
plain text by default, remove Flash player which is annoying the majority of
time anyway because of all the advertisements and do not install Windows
Scripting Host because you do not want to have scripts written for you
automatically.

I think it is clear that the future lies in open and closed source
technologies working together in harmony.

"FromTheRafters" wrote:

> If they had had a Windows for Workgroups computer also,
> and it wasn't affected at all, would you say it was even safer
> than Win98SE?
>
> You draw the strangest conclusions from that experience you
> endlessly expound upon.
>
> I suggest WinXP for your laptop - You wouldn't be able to
> figure out how to use Vista without crippling the security, and
> it is easier to to cripple XP than it is to cripple Vista.
>
> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:A41F6638-289F-48FA-851D-090E9EBA9CA0@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks for your feedback, MEB. I would be Windows 98 Second Edition on it
> > but I know it cannot be fully supported due to such technologies as
> > PCI-Express not being supported in 98 Second Edition. I am still tempted
> > to
> > buy an older laptop perhaps from Ebay and put Windows 98 Second Edition on
> > it
> > especially because of the September 2007 incident when XP Professional
> > failed
> > and allowed access from VPN connection to APS network and 98 Second
> > Edition
> > just crashed the application with a denial of service error but
> > fortunately
> > did not allow access. This raised my confidence in Windows 98 Second
> > Edition
> > greatly.
> >
> > "MEB" wrote:
> >
> >> About the only thing I can say related to what OS,,
> >> Microsoft extended the VISTA to XP roll-back for another six months, so
> >> it
> >> might be advisable to think about it carefully. Not that it extends
> >> support
> >> though.
> >>
> >> And related to Linux,,, unless you understand that Linux is NOT Windows,
> >> and will take some getting used to, you will likely not like it. It is
> >> more
> >> secure, but DOES require you make an effort to understand the OS. You
> >> actually have to use your mental abilities and spend some time learning
> >> it,
> >> something Windows users of today aren't to familiar with.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> MEB
> >> http://peoplescounsel.org
> >> a Peoples' counsel
> >> _ _
> >> ~~
> >> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:5EC7AECA-22C7-4432-9FE3-35769AEA46D8@microsoft.com...
> >> | Thanks, MEB. I say about this on the US-CERT Website. I have since
> >> removed
> >> | Adobe Flash Player in Windows 98 Second Edition and I certainly
> >> actually
> >> | prefer not having it because many of the annoying ads use flash player
> >> and
> >> | now cannot run without flash player. I certainly like Windows 98
> >> Second
> >> | Edition while running programs that are still supported by 3rd party
> >> because
> >> | it has yet to fail me. The only failures I have come across with
> >> Windows
> >> 98
> >> | Second Edition recently have to do with Internet Explorer and those
> >> were
> >> | Denial of Service Errors and one recent freezing of the machine.
> >> Thankfully,
> >> | I have seen no Blue Screens of Death with Windows 98 Second Edition for
> >> a
> >> | while now. In Windows XP Professional, my Ipod Mini 6 gigabytes choked
> >> when
> >> | I connected it to the machine and slowed everything to a crawl. I
> >> tried
> >> | exiting out of stuff and some stuff would not close and then tried
> >> shutting
> >> | down and experienced a freeze in XP Professional which required my to
> >> hit
> >> the
> >> | reset button on my computer. The computer loaded Windows XP
> >> Professional
> >> | fine and then synched the Ipod Mini with Itunes like there had not been
> >> any
> >> | problem at all. I have not had any problems since with that issue. I
> >> have
> >> | gotten back my Toshiba notebook computer with the oem version of
> >> Windows
> >> | Vista Home Premium with all new loaded crap-ware but have not used it
> >> much
> >> | and now must decide if I want to buy a retail version of Windows Vista
> >> Home
> >> | Premium or Windows Vista Business or Windows Ultimate or if I should
> >> just
> >> | format the computer and put either Windows XP Professional or Ubuntu
> >> Linux
> >> on
> >> | it. Do you have any suggestions about which would be best and why.
> >> BTW,
> >> I
> >> | agree that click-jacking is a big problem and people need to be careful
> >> and
> >> | nowadays you need to be even careful about moving your mouse over
> >> certain
> >> | areas of web sites too.
> >> |
> >> | "MEB" wrote:
> >> |
> >> | >
> >> | > Well, yet another aspect of what I have presented in this forum has
> >> now
> >> | > been addressed. More of the malicious activity we find spreading
> >> across
> >> the
> >> | > Internet.
> >> | >
> >> | > Click-jacking
> >> | >
> >> | > http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1972&tag=nl.e539
> >> | > From the article:
> >> | > QUOTE:
> >> | > With this exploit, once you're on the malicious web page, the bad guy
> >> can
> >> | > make you click on any link, any button, or anything on the page
> >> without
> >> you
> >> | > even seeing it happening.
> >> | > [ SEE: Adobe Flash ads launching clipboard hijack attack ]
> >> | > If that's not scary enough, consider than the average end user would
> >> have no
> >> | > idea what's going on during a Clickjack attack.
> >> | > END QUOTE
> >> | >
> >> | > This is a cross-browser exploit NOT OS specific ... make an effort
> >> to
> >> try
> >> | > to understand WHY it works, HOW it works, then think carefully about
> >> your
> >> | > Internet usage AND why firewalls and YOUR PERSONAL SETTINGS AND USAGE
> >> might
> >> | > be able to help.
> >> | >
> >> | > Might also want to think about the other exploits out there you
> >> HAVEN'T
> >> yet
> >> | > been informed of or have made the "news" [embedded code in video,
> >> music,
> >> and
> >> | > other nifty stuff.....like using port 443 to inject things you
> >> wouldn't
> >> | > normally allow or which would have been blocked otherwise...].
> >> | >
> >> | > --
> >> | > MEB
> >> | > http://peoplescounsel.org
> >> | > a Peoples' counsel
> >> | > _ _
> >> | > ~~
> >> | >
> >> | >
> >> | >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

 

[FromTheRafters]

Oh well....I tried.

[snipped verbiage]

 

[thanatoid]

"FromTheRafters" <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
news:er9P7qlKJHA.5992@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

> Oh well....I tried.
>
> [snipped verbiage]

Allow me...

WHY do you go to "questionable sites" in the first place?


--
Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the
votes decide everything.
- Josef Stalin

 

[Dan]

I wanted to let you know that XP Professional totally failed on me today and
would not even boot up. The downgrade from IE 7 to IE 6 with Microsoft's
help totally destroyed XP Professional so now I am getting ready to do a
clean install and I plan to just stay with IE 6 for XP Professional until IE
8 is ready to go and out of beta. I switched to IE 8 beta 2 after IE 6 would
not load and it worked for a while but now the whole XP Pro. operating system
is just giving up because the ATI driver had issues the other day and I-tunes
had issues when connecting my Ipod so apparently it is too much for XP Pro.
to handle. This is yet another reason XP Professional is over-rated and if
people actually had skills and used 98 Second Edition with the help of 3rd
party software and their own custom built computers then I think that many
would be pleasantly surprised. I can only hope that Microsoft will consider
having another true consumer operating system again someday and if it is an
all in one solution then Microsoft at least has a true maintenance operating
system like MS-DOS underneath the hood so that at least software experts can
more easily fix the problems within a true maintenance operating system.
Heck, I am so old school that I enjoyed the days when everything was in
memory and would start anew each time the computer was turned on like in the
IBM PCjr. The problem nowadays is there is so much complexity and so much in
the registry and the operating system so large that lots of software is not
written as well as it used to be because there is so much space that software
writers do not have the need to keep it small and light and within small hard
drive spaces. Heck, in the stores you now see one terabyte drives for sale.

"thanatoid" wrote:

> "FromTheRafters" <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
> news:er9P7qlKJHA.5992@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
>
> > Oh well....I tried.
> >
> > [snipped verbiage]
>
> Allow me...
>
> WHY do you go to "questionable sites" in the first place?
>
>
> --
> Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the
> votes decide everything.
> - Josef Stalin
>