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Michael Dobony
On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 15:32:06 +0100, Hubert Cumberdale wrote:
> I would like to say that this is a very unfair argument for Windows Vista!
>
> Microsoft spend thosands of hours producing the operating systems, of course
> there are going to be problems and things people don't like. Also you need
> to take into consideration that Microsoft write for a massive hardware base
> where all systems are different. Apple on the other hand build and produce
> their own systems and write the software for the systems.
>
> I can see it now, Microsoft starting to make their own hardware. Something
> tells me the EU wouldn't be very happy or anyone else for that matter. Its
> true though Microsoft have to look after the masses.
>
> for me personally Windows Vista has been a pleasure to work with. Sure UAC
> was slightly anoying, but its there for a reason. Ok the layout didn't make
> sense, but thats called change.
>
My experience has been anything BUT a pleasure. I do NOT enjoy frequent
program lockups (MS Office 2007, et. al.) and mysterious hard reboots. I
spen about a month locating and installing WXP and drivers on my HP laptop.
I also did not enjoy the programs that would not run, even under XP
compatibility mode. My son had the same experience on his computer and
likewise spent time installing XP. XP is stable and runs everything. No
driver problems. My son is testing W7 and it is comparable to XP in
running programs, stability, and drivers. Vista is JUNK!!!!! Wake up and
smell the dung heap!
> Feel free to go and get a Mac, they are a great peice of kit. Just remember
> though how much it can cost to repair a mac if the hardware goes wrong.
> Especially if your don't have an Apple Care protection plan. Hey if my PC
> goes wrong i just swap bits out!
>
> "JEWboy" wrote in message
> news:u6M%236Rk$JHA.1352@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Five years ago I came to a Chrysler Dealership to buy a Convertible - a
>> fancar, my first new/unused car due to midlife crisis. Carrying a great
>> creditcard as unlike today by creditscore was so perfect, I got 0% for a
>> YEAR on a whopping 10K creditline - part of which I planned to use for a
>> downpayment.
>>
>> There was a snobbishly looking Chrysler's salesman who after an arrogant
>> look at my jeans & T-shirt (I often look simpler than profession or
>> status), uttered with a grin "you can't buy cars with a creditcard". I
>> said I am using it for a downpayment, not for entire amount & matter of
>> fact if I wish I can use all $10K towards $23K Chrysler Sebring
>> He again gave me a look like I am supposed to beg for Foodstamps, rather
>> than buying a car. His look was telling me "I got enough buyers to care
>> for you, we control enough market share to worry about 1 cheap customer"
>> I'll never forgive Chrysler for that treatment. Their dealership was
>> overshadowing a much smaller & democratic Nissan. As much as I wanted a
>> convertible which Nissan didn't have other than a luxury $40K+ unit, I
>> hopelessly turned around and decided to take a walk around Nissan and GO
>> HOME. "Forget it, I need more money" I was thinking.
>>
>> The story ended up with a Nissan salesguy grabbing me by hand and almost
>> dragging and explaining what I can afford, use creditcard or whatever... 5
>> years later I am still riding that Nissan and my next car will also be a
>> Nissan or maybe an American to support American jobs, but NOT Chrysler.
>> In the following 2 years whenever I used that dealership for service, the
>> same salesguy recognized & talked to me to see if I can upgrade, etc even
>> though it was "sales push" it was classy.
>>
>> This is a lesson to you Frank/Justin/SpankeyMonkey or whoever your moron
>> alias is, changing daily.
>> By telling me "go get a Mac" you may end up like Chrysler and GM one day
>> who thought they're invicible. At the time Chrysler had an excellent
>> sales year, today I am not so sure! And if you don't quit telling "go get
>> a Mac", hell knows maybe people will start getting Macs because of your
>> advise rather than admitting Vista problems & avoiding them in Windows7.
>> The problem with WinExplorer forgetting views and insisting on its own
>> selection of columns, is a problem and NOT a minor nuissance. At least it
>> didn't exist in WindowsXP.
>> Stop defending Vista aqs it was indeed a fiasco, Windows7 is trying to
>> undo.
> I would like to say that this is a very unfair argument for Windows Vista!
>
> Microsoft spend thosands of hours producing the operating systems, of course
> there are going to be problems and things people don't like. Also you need
> to take into consideration that Microsoft write for a massive hardware base
> where all systems are different. Apple on the other hand build and produce
> their own systems and write the software for the systems.
>
> I can see it now, Microsoft starting to make their own hardware. Something
> tells me the EU wouldn't be very happy or anyone else for that matter. Its
> true though Microsoft have to look after the masses.
>
> for me personally Windows Vista has been a pleasure to work with. Sure UAC
> was slightly anoying, but its there for a reason. Ok the layout didn't make
> sense, but thats called change.
>
My experience has been anything BUT a pleasure. I do NOT enjoy frequent
program lockups (MS Office 2007, et. al.) and mysterious hard reboots. I
spen about a month locating and installing WXP and drivers on my HP laptop.
I also did not enjoy the programs that would not run, even under XP
compatibility mode. My son had the same experience on his computer and
likewise spent time installing XP. XP is stable and runs everything. No
driver problems. My son is testing W7 and it is comparable to XP in
running programs, stability, and drivers. Vista is JUNK!!!!! Wake up and
smell the dung heap!
> Feel free to go and get a Mac, they are a great peice of kit. Just remember
> though how much it can cost to repair a mac if the hardware goes wrong.
> Especially if your don't have an Apple Care protection plan. Hey if my PC
> goes wrong i just swap bits out!
>
> "JEWboy" wrote in message
> news:u6M%236Rk$JHA.1352@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Five years ago I came to a Chrysler Dealership to buy a Convertible - a
>> fancar, my first new/unused car due to midlife crisis. Carrying a great
>> creditcard as unlike today by creditscore was so perfect, I got 0% for a
>> YEAR on a whopping 10K creditline - part of which I planned to use for a
>> downpayment.
>>
>> There was a snobbishly looking Chrysler's salesman who after an arrogant
>> look at my jeans & T-shirt (I often look simpler than profession or
>> status), uttered with a grin "you can't buy cars with a creditcard". I
>> said I am using it for a downpayment, not for entire amount & matter of
>> fact if I wish I can use all $10K towards $23K Chrysler Sebring
>> He again gave me a look like I am supposed to beg for Foodstamps, rather
>> than buying a car. His look was telling me "I got enough buyers to care
>> for you, we control enough market share to worry about 1 cheap customer"
>> I'll never forgive Chrysler for that treatment. Their dealership was
>> overshadowing a much smaller & democratic Nissan. As much as I wanted a
>> convertible which Nissan didn't have other than a luxury $40K+ unit, I
>> hopelessly turned around and decided to take a walk around Nissan and GO
>> HOME. "Forget it, I need more money" I was thinking.
>>
>> The story ended up with a Nissan salesguy grabbing me by hand and almost
>> dragging and explaining what I can afford, use creditcard or whatever... 5
>> years later I am still riding that Nissan and my next car will also be a
>> Nissan or maybe an American to support American jobs, but NOT Chrysler.
>> In the following 2 years whenever I used that dealership for service, the
>> same salesguy recognized & talked to me to see if I can upgrade, etc even
>> though it was "sales push" it was classy.
>>
>> This is a lesson to you Frank/Justin/SpankeyMonkey or whoever your moron
>> alias is, changing daily.
>> By telling me "go get a Mac" you may end up like Chrysler and GM one day
>> who thought they're invicible. At the time Chrysler had an excellent
>> sales year, today I am not so sure! And if you don't quit telling "go get
>> a Mac", hell knows maybe people will start getting Macs because of your
>> advise rather than admitting Vista problems & avoiding them in Windows7.
>> The problem with WinExplorer forgetting views and insisting on its own
>> selection of columns, is a problem and NOT a minor nuissance. At least it
>> didn't exist in WindowsXP.
>> Stop defending Vista aqs it was indeed a fiasco, Windows7 is trying to
>> undo.
