Identity Stolen Again

[Dan]

It will be difficult because it is indeed most likely the federal government.
<smile> Wow, I prayed to God for an adventurous life and I got the desire
of my heart. <grin>

"98 Guy" wrote:

> Gary, can you (or anyone else) explain how Mike's post was injected?
>
> Message-ID: <MichaelCarver.2vw9vi@DoNotSpam.com>
> Organization: Computer Help - http://forums.techarena.in
> User-Agent: vBulletin USENET gateway
> X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway
> X-Originating-IP: 71.213.179.67 (71-213-179-67.albq.qwest.net)
> NNTP-Posting-Host: hostname.techarena.in 207.58.143.175
> Path: 207.46.248.126.MISMATCH (4)
> TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl (3)
> TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl (2)
> TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl (1)
>
> The very first 4 machines to handle his post are MS machines. Yet the
> rest of the header indicates it was posted through a web-forum usenet
> gateway (not hosted by MS).
>

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Go home, Dan.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0148D27E-3EA3-423B-BF6F-B1960317D789@microsoft.com...
> Thanks Gary. You are awesome!
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Michael, you sound like a friend.
>>
>> Anybody else (as I put on my net-nanny hat) please leave this alone.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "MichaelCarver" <MichaelCarver.2vw9vi@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
>> news:MichaelCarver.2vw9vi@DoNotSpam.com...
>> >
>> > Daniel,
>> > You really need to stop this. We have been trying for a long time to
>> > reach you and calm you down, and I guess this is the only way we can do
>> > it. You never worked at Davis Mountain in any kind of security
>> > capacity, you worked at the school there, in the after school program.
>> > The identity theft thing is not true as well, and as far as your job
>> > goes, you know you crossed a line and there is only so far your
>> > misdirections will go. It's better for you to calm down and start
>> > telling the truth. Your father Ivan is worried and so is your mother
>> > and your sisters. Please get off the internet and call them or drive
>> > yourself to Santa Fe.
>> >
>> > Sincerely,
>> > your very worried friend
>> >
>> > Michael Carvelli
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > MichaelCarver
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > MichaelCarver's Profile:
>> > http://forums.techarena.in/member.php?userid=29975
>> > View this thread: http://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?t=807146
>> >
>> > http://forums.techarena.in
>> >
>>
>>
>>

 

[Angel]

Gary,
That is some picture, where did you get that hat? What does he look like
without the beard?
Angel

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:%23gjHkT95HHA.5844@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Terhune doesn't have a beard anymore. After all, here's what he looked
like
> with one:
> http://grystmill.com/images/GaryAtSummit_1.jpg
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> news:%23STi%23665HHA.2752@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:8F0C93C2-EB99-4471-BBBF-CEDD7EEEFDD1@microsoft.com
> > | Thanks for your support, Angel. I really think you have an awesome
> > | name. I did work for the Department of Defense at Davis Monthan Air
> > | Force Base from November 1998 to around June 2001. I had issues with
> > | my cell phone and the base hooked me up with a secure line. I have
> > | done beta testing on Windows Vista for Microsoft. I hope to
> > | eventually with the help of lots of other experts have a secure
> > | tri-source code operating system for the United States Government
> > | consisting of Windows source code, as well as Apple technology and
> > | open source technology like Linux and the web browser Mozilla Firefox
> > | which supports 256 bit AES (Advanced Encryption Standard) as compared
> > | to the more limited 128 bit RC4 cipher strength of IE 6 and 7. It
> > | has been proven now that 128 bit encryption RC4 can be broken but it
> > | is almost impossible to do with current technology. AFAIK, 256 bit
> > | AES encryption has not been cracked even by the best hackers out
> > | there. I enjoy doing volunteer work for the Defense Network which
> > | includes the Department of Defense (Davis Monthan), the Justice
> > | Department and the National Security Agency. I think I will be
> > | a-okay in the long run. They keep a very close eye on me especially
> > | now with my data as a systems administrator being compromised. My
> > | official business at Painted Sky Elementary is just an educational
> > | assistant for 1st grade but I started helping out with the computers
> > | since they had so many problems at the school with them and we work
> > | as a team there as well. Have a nice weekend! BTW, I do sometimes
> > | forgot stupid easy things and sometimes look stupid but I know that
> > | there are people like Gary S. Terhune, MVP that will lead me on the
> > | right path when I go wrong in regards to computers. I am his student
> > | and he is my teacher. <grin and Gary thought he did not have as much
> > | impact as he really does have --- LOL>
> > | BTW, what is new with you in New York, PCR? I plan to visit the city
> > | in December and January ---- straight to my hometown of Manhatten ---
> > | lived there 18 years!
> >
> > Don't come here, unless you bring Terhune's beard in a red box-- just
> > the beard!
> >
> > | "Angel" wrote:
> > |
> > |> Hi Dan,
> > |>
> > |> Sorry that you had an ID theft problem. I had an incident that
> > |> happened to me. I have an idea of how you feel. I feel so violated
> > |> by this incident. I just hope that they did not steal the rest of my
> > |> identity as they did yours.
> > |>
> > |> The fraud dept. from my Credit Card Co. notified me that someone
> > |> had tried to use my number to purchase over $399 and they caught it.
> > |> They asked if I or someone in my family had done the purchasing. I
> > |> told them no. So they did not let it go through. They cancelled my
> > |> cards and are to send new ones. I had to notify all the companies
> > |> with whom I do business, and have Auto Ship items that the card is
> > |> now nonexistent, then call them back when I get new cards. What a
> > |> PAIN!! I am glad they caught it. I had to fight a charge made to my
> > |> card a few years ago because Wal-Mart had a signed receipt by
> > |> someone who forged a member of the family's name. It was not any of
> > |> ours signatures. It was for around $60. Anything over $100 is a
> > |> felony. I hope they catch the culprits involved in yours and mine.
> > |>
> > |> Angel
> > |>
> > |> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > |> news:C6C0FD2B-C77F-4800-B3B5-7863F64E4EA2@microsoft.com...
> > |> > I think I told most of you how my social security card was stolen
> > |> > in a 2005 break in when I lived in Tucson Arizona. In addition,
> > |> > the computers were attempted to access but fortunately mine had a
> > |> > BIOS password and stopped the intruder. Well, this time I was
> > |> > working on Michelle Mora's image being illegally put on a Painted
> > |> > Sky Elementary School computer and the next thing I know my
> > |> > administrator passwords are changed and I am locked out of the two
> >
> > |> > computers I was working on. This fall a cable was missing from
> > |> > the sub station area. I am now being blamed for computer
> > |> > sabotage. I know my work identity has been stolen. Oh Well, I
> > |> > had planned on not giving data but you may as well know who I am
> > |> > now because it does not matter:
> > |> >
> > |> > Dan Weiser
> > |> > Albuquerque, NM
> > |> >
> > |> > Folks live in Santa Fe, NM
> > |> >
> > |> > Grew up in New York City
> >
> > --
> > Thanks or Good Luck,
> > There may be humor in this post, and,
> > Naturally, you will not sue,
> > Should things get worse after this,
> > PCR
> > pcrrcp@netzero.net
> >
> >
>
>

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Don't have a decent picture of me without a beard. Haven't bothered to take
one. I'll let you know if I do, someday.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
news:%23hZ7MY$5HHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Gary,
> That is some picture, where did you get that hat? What does he look
> like
> without the beard?
> Angel
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:%23gjHkT95HHA.5844@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Terhune doesn't have a beard anymore. After all, here's what he looked
> like
>> with one:
>> http://grystmill.com/images/GaryAtSummit_1.jpg
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
>> news:%23STi%23665HHA.2752@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:8F0C93C2-EB99-4471-BBBF-CEDD7EEEFDD1@microsoft.com
>> > | Thanks for your support, Angel. I really think you have an awesome
>> > | name. I did work for the Department of Defense at Davis Monthan Air
>> > | Force Base from November 1998 to around June 2001. I had issues with
>> > | my cell phone and the base hooked me up with a secure line. I have
>> > | done beta testing on Windows Vista for Microsoft. I hope to
>> > | eventually with the help of lots of other experts have a secure
>> > | tri-source code operating system for the United States Government
>> > | consisting of Windows source code, as well as Apple technology and
>> > | open source technology like Linux and the web browser Mozilla Firefox
>> > | which supports 256 bit AES (Advanced Encryption Standard) as compared
>> > | to the more limited 128 bit RC4 cipher strength of IE 6 and 7. It
>> > | has been proven now that 128 bit encryption RC4 can be broken but it
>> > | is almost impossible to do with current technology. AFAIK, 256 bit
>> > | AES encryption has not been cracked even by the best hackers out
>> > | there. I enjoy doing volunteer work for the Defense Network which
>> > | includes the Department of Defense (Davis Monthan), the Justice
>> > | Department and the National Security Agency. I think I will be
>> > | a-okay in the long run. They keep a very close eye on me especially
>> > | now with my data as a systems administrator being compromised. My
>> > | official business at Painted Sky Elementary is just an educational
>> > | assistant for 1st grade but I started helping out with the computers
>> > | since they had so many problems at the school with them and we work
>> > | as a team there as well. Have a nice weekend! BTW, I do sometimes
>> > | forgot stupid easy things and sometimes look stupid but I know that
>> > | there are people like Gary S. Terhune, MVP that will lead me on the
>> > | right path when I go wrong in regards to computers. I am his student
>> > | and he is my teacher. <grin and Gary thought he did not have as much
>> > | impact as he really does have --- LOL>
>> > | BTW, what is new with you in New York, PCR? I plan to visit the city
>> > | in December and January ---- straight to my hometown of Manhatten ---
>> > | lived there 18 years!
>> >
>> > Don't come here, unless you bring Terhune's beard in a red box-- just
>> > the beard!
>> >
>> > | "Angel" wrote:
>> > |
>> > |> Hi Dan,
>> > |>
>> > |> Sorry that you had an ID theft problem. I had an incident that
>> > |> happened to me. I have an idea of how you feel. I feel so violated
>> > |> by this incident. I just hope that they did not steal the rest of my
>> > |> identity as they did yours.
>> > |>
>> > |> The fraud dept. from my Credit Card Co. notified me that someone
>> > |> had tried to use my number to purchase over $399 and they caught it.
>> > |> They asked if I or someone in my family had done the purchasing. I
>> > |> told them no. So they did not let it go through. They cancelled my
>> > |> cards and are to send new ones. I had to notify all the companies
>> > |> with whom I do business, and have Auto Ship items that the card is
>> > |> now nonexistent, then call them back when I get new cards. What a
>> > |> PAIN!! I am glad they caught it. I had to fight a charge made to my
>> > |> card a few years ago because Wal-Mart had a signed receipt by
>> > |> someone who forged a member of the family's name. It was not any of
>> > |> ours signatures. It was for around $60. Anything over $100 is a
>> > |> felony. I hope they catch the culprits involved in yours and mine.
>> > |>
>> > |> Angel
>> > |>
>> > |> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > |> news:C6C0FD2B-C77F-4800-B3B5-7863F64E4EA2@microsoft.com...
>> > |> > I think I told most of you how my social security card was stolen
>> > |> > in a 2005 break in when I lived in Tucson Arizona. In addition,
>> > |> > the computers were attempted to access but fortunately mine had a
>> > |> > BIOS password and stopped the intruder. Well, this time I was
>> > |> > working on Michelle Mora's image being illegally put on a Painted
>> > |> > Sky Elementary School computer and the next thing I know my
>> > |> > administrator passwords are changed and I am locked out of the two
>> >
>> > |> > computers I was working on. This fall a cable was missing from
>> > |> > the sub station area. I am now being blamed for computer
>> > |> > sabotage. I know my work identity has been stolen. Oh Well, I
>> > |> > had planned on not giving data but you may as well know who I am
>> > |> > now because it does not matter:
>> > |> >
>> > |> > Dan Weiser
>> > |> > Albuquerque, NM
>> > |> >
>> > |> > Folks live in Santa Fe, NM
>> > |> >
>> > |> > Grew up in New York City
>> >
>> > --
>> > Thanks or Good Luck,
>> > There may be humor in this post, and,
>> > Naturally, you will not sue,
>> > Should things get worse after this,
>> > PCR
>> > pcrrcp@netzero.net
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

 

[PCR]

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:%23gjHkT95HHA.5844@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl
| Terhune doesn't have a beard anymore. After all, here's what he
| looked like with one:
| http://grystmill.com/images/GaryAtSummit_1.jpg

I HOPE you found a new home for the crow in there! Well.. I'll take that
stuff rolling over your shoulders on the black coat, then, to roll my
remaining cigarettes with-- but no scalp!

| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:%23STi%23665HHA.2752@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
|> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
|> news:8F0C93C2-EB99-4471-BBBF-CEDD7EEEFDD1@microsoft.com
|> | Thanks for your support, Angel. I really think you have an awesome
|> | name. I did work for the Department of Defense at Davis Monthan
|> | Air Force Base from November 1998 to around June 2001. I had
|> | issues with my cell phone and the base hooked me up with a secure
|> | line. I have done beta testing on Windows Vista for Microsoft. I
|> | hope to eventually with the help of lots of other experts have a
|> | secure tri-source code operating system for the United States
|> | Government consisting of Windows source code, as well as Apple
|> | technology and open source technology like Linux and the web
|> | browser Mozilla Firefox which supports 256 bit AES (Advanced
|> | Encryption Standard) as compared to the more limited 128 bit RC4
|> | cipher strength of IE 6 and 7. It has been proven now that 128
|> | bit encryption RC4 can be broken but it is almost impossible to do
|> | with current technology. AFAIK, 256 bit AES encryption has not
|> | been cracked even by the best hackers out there. I enjoy doing
|> | volunteer work for the Defense Network which includes the
|> | Department of Defense (Davis Monthan), the Justice Department and
|> | the National Security Agency. I think I will be a-okay in the
|> | long run. They keep a very close eye on me especially now with my
|> | data as a systems administrator being compromised. My official
|> | business at Painted Sky Elementary is just an educational
|> | assistant for 1st grade but I started helping out with the
|> | computers since they had so many problems at the school with them
|> | and we work as a team there as well. Have a nice weekend! BTW, I
|> | do sometimes forgot stupid easy things and sometimes look stupid
|> | but I know that there are people like Gary S. Terhune, MVP that
|> | will lead me on the right path when I go wrong in regards to
|> | computers. I am his student and he is my teacher. <grin and Gary
|> | thought he did not have as much impact as he really does have ---
|> | LOL>
|> | BTW, what is new with you in New York, PCR? I plan to visit the
|> | city in December and January ---- straight to my hometown of
|> | Manhatten --- lived there 18 years!
|>
|> Don't come here, unless you bring Terhune's beard in a red box-- just
|> the beard!
|>
|> | "Angel" wrote:
|> |
|> |> Hi Dan,
|> |>
|> |> Sorry that you had an ID theft problem. I had an incident
|> |> that happened to me. I have an idea of how you feel. I feel so
|> |> violated by this incident. I just hope that they did not steal
|> |> the rest of my identity as they did yours.
|> |>
|> |> The fraud dept. from my Credit Card Co. notified me that
|> |> someone had tried to use my number to purchase over $399 and they
|> |> caught it. They asked if I or someone in my family had done the
|> |> purchasing. I told them no. So they did not let it go through.
|> |> They cancelled my cards and are to send new ones. I had to notify
|> |> all the companies with whom I do business, and have Auto Ship
|> |> items that the card is now nonexistent, then call them back when
|> |> I get new cards. What a PAIN!! I am glad they caught it. I had
|> |> to fight a charge made to my card a few years ago because
|> |> Wal-Mart had a signed receipt by someone who forged a member of
|> |> the family's name. It was not any of ours signatures. It was for
|> |> around $60. Anything over $100 is a felony. I hope they catch the
|> |> culprits involved in yours and mine.
|> |>
|> |> Angel
|> |>
|> |> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
|> |> news:C6C0FD2B-C77F-4800-B3B5-7863F64E4EA2@microsoft.com...
|> |> > I think I told most of you how my social security card was
|> |> > stolen in a 2005 break in when I lived in Tucson Arizona. In
|> |> > addition, the computers were attempted to access but
|> |> > fortunately mine had a BIOS password and stopped the intruder.
|> |> > Well, this time I was working on Michelle Mora's image being
|> |> > illegally put on a Painted Sky Elementary School computer and
|> |> > the next thing I know my administrator passwords are changed
|> |> > and I am locked out of the two
|>
|> |> > computers I was working on. This fall a cable was missing from
|> |> > the sub station area. I am now being blamed for computer
|> |> > sabotage. I know my work identity has been stolen. Oh Well, I
|> |> > had planned on not giving data but you may as well know who I am
|> |> > now because it does not matter:
|> |> >
|> |> > Dan Weiser
|> |> > Albuquerque, NM
|> |> >
|> |> > Folks live in Santa Fe, NM
|> |> >
|> |> > Grew up in New York City
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[Dan]

This issue is being resolved. Please limit posts from only Angel, PCR, Gary
S. Terhune, 98 Guy and Michael Carver (?). Everyone else is restricted from
this thread immediately. Thank you for your concern. Have a nice day!

"Dan" wrote:

> You also, Angel and thanks for your support.
>
> "Angel" wrote:
>
> > Dan,
> > No, it is not necessary to continue this discussion. I have too much on
> > my plate and I do not need another downer. I have already had more downers
> > than I can take.
> > Have a great day!!
> > Angel
> >
> > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:1FB823A9-A7C2-4625-B2FA-77A701813054@microsoft.com...
> > > Exactly, Angel. I would prefer to continue this discussion via email. If
> > > you are interested then please email me at dewsky1975@hotmail.com You
> > just
> > > need to remove the sky and you have a valid email address. Thanks and
> > Take
> > > Care!
> > >
> > > "Angel" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dan,
> > > >
> > > > When I posted what happened to me was to let you that you are not
> > the
> > > > only one who had ID stolen. It has and will happen to many other people
> > > > because of technology and I am one of them. I was also telling you how
> > it
> > > > made me feel and how others may feel about it. As long as people try to
> > get
> > > > something without working for it, these things will happen. In a perfect
> > > > world these things would never happen. This is not a perfect world.
> > > > Evidently, we have to roll with the punches and keep on guard against
> > this
> > > > type of activity.
> > > >
> > > > Angel
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:E9C77A0D-DEC3-4140-9AC0-4271937D5EE5@microsoft.com...
> > > > > Sure, I did now since I know that my identity is protected in the God
> > that
> > > > I
> > > > > believe in but let us stop here so we don't stray too far off topic
> > into a
> > > > > nasty theological debate that has no relevance here.
> > > > >
> > > > > "98 Guy" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Dan wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think I told most of you how my social security card was stolen
> > > > > > > in a 2005 break in when I lived in Tucson Arizona.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (life story omitted)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why are you posting this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'd say that nobody stole your identity - you gave it away.
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >

 

[r u kidding]

....
> This issue is being resolved. Please limit posts from only Angel, PCR,
Gary
> S. Terhune, 98 Guy and Michael Carver (?). Everyone else is restricted
from
> this thread immediately.

um...... methinks the posts will be 'limited' by the fact that the ppl
you mention dont want to be associated with you.... or are you a
little slow to notice that.
do what gary said,,,,,,,, go home!
(if not,, someone is going to take you to one reeeeeeeeeel soon)

 

[Dan]

f_ck off

"r u kidding" wrote:

>
> ....
> > This issue is being resolved. Please limit posts from only Angel, PCR,
> Gary
> > S. Terhune, 98 Guy and Michael Carver (?). Everyone else is restricted
> from
> > this thread immediately.
>
> um...... methinks the posts will be 'limited' by the fact that the ppl
> you mention dont want to be associated with you.... or are you a
> little slow to notice that.
> do what gary said,,,,,,,, go home!
> (if not,, someone is going to take you to one reeeeeeeeeel soon)
>
>
>

 

[r u kidding]

> Sure, I did now since I know that my identity is protected in the God that
I
> believe in but let us stop here so we don't stray too far off topic into a
> nasty theological debate that has no relevance here.

curious 'bout someting dan.... (if you are still here and not in the place
where the nice men-in-white will look after you) just wondering why
you consider gods labours are not required in, say, such a place as
this one?????
seems obvious that this is exactly the type of place his sons message
should be expounded upon......... you know,, the types of places
where there are non-believers.
why would you, a god-fearing soul, be so quick to turn god and his son
into something like a "theological debate"....... isnt the message of
christ
to get 'baptized' (by full immersion as he himself did), then 'recieve' the
gift of the holy ghost... (something your revered gst will never do due to
his inability to host a humble bone or thought within himself).... followed
by
walking onward from that day forth as if one has been 'born again'????
you show only fear daniel........ the bible is very clear on what
'fear' is.
it is the exact opposite of what god is...... for god is love. you seem
to
be full of fear and indecision and religion....... none of these are
qualities
of christ... but dont believe me, check it all out yourself...
(hint,,, you wont find god in a church-like-structure..... and you find
him in
any sort of 'ism'.... like bud-ism, or catholic-ism, or any
other ism..
nay,, he is none of these things for these things are of man,, and
man
merely dwells on a planet called earth, of which was created by the topic
in question)

like you say dan.... have a nice day.

 

[r u kidding]

> f_ck off
>
> "r u kidding" wrote:

bingo!!!!!
exactly what i thought.......
jesus would turn the other cheek, but you
use profanity as your in-built defence mechanism.
you are not of jesus, you are of dan.

 

[Dan]

Thanks for the replies, sorry for cussing and you are right I am a human and
my identity is in God so I have nothing to worry about anymore. I was wrong
to go off the deep end and I do apologize to everyone in this newsgroup and
thank them for all of their help. Take Care and may God Bless you and keep
you on the right path in this life.

"r u kidding" wrote:

> > Sure, I did now since I know that my identity is protected in the God that
> I
> > believe in but let us stop here so we don't stray too far off topic into a
> > nasty theological debate that has no relevance here.
>
> curious 'bout someting dan.... (if you are still here and not in the place
> where the nice men-in-white will look after you) just wondering why
> you consider gods labours are not required in, say, such a place as
> this one?????
> seems obvious that this is exactly the type of place his sons message
> should be expounded upon......... you know,, the types of places
> where there are non-believers.
> why would you, a god-fearing soul, be so quick to turn god and his son
> into something like a "theological debate"....... isnt the message of
> christ
> to get 'baptized' (by full immersion as he himself did), then 'recieve' the
> gift of the holy ghost... (something your revered gst will never do due to
> his inability to host a humble bone or thought within himself).... followed
> by
> walking onward from that day forth as if one has been 'born again'????
> you show only fear daniel........ the bible is very clear on what
> 'fear' is.
> it is the exact opposite of what god is...... for god is love. you seem
> to
> be full of fear and indecision and religion....... none of these are
> qualities
> of christ... but dont believe me, check it all out yourself...
> (hint,,, you wont find god in a church-like-structure..... and you find
> him in
> any sort of 'ism'.... like bud-ism, or catholic-ism, or any
> other ism..
> nay,, he is none of these things for these things are of man,, and
> man
> merely dwells on a planet called earth, of which was created by the topic
> in question)
>
> like you say dan.... have a nice day.
>
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