We all knew this was coming. MS to shut down news servers.

[Stephen Wolstenholme]

On Tue, 04 May 2010 18:48:06 -0500, milt

wrote:



>On 5/4/2010 5:45 PM, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:

>> On Tue, 04 May 2010 23:33:02 +0100, LD5SZRA

>> wrote:

>>

>>>

>>> You don't have to use Forums if you don't want to because

>>> Microsoft has released its latest version of NNTP bridge that

>>> allows you to read forums in your newsreader. The link is here:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> hth

>>

>> I have seen that but I can't get it to work with my reader. I didn't

>> try too hard as I don't use many Microsoft groups.

>>

>> Steve

>>

>

>I got it to work, briefly...but it was a bit buggy and damn, those

>forums were just insane to try and follow, hundreds of new posts a day

>and so many asking the same questions. It was tough to follow. I got rid

>of it.



It would have been a far better solution if Microsoft had used a

reliable package like MPNews. It provides unified Web forums,

newsgroups, RSS feeds, mailing lists, and blogs all from the same

source. http://www.messagepixels.com/mpnews/



I have used a NNTP service provided by MPNews for years and have never

known it to fail.



It's a great pity that Microsoft insist on reinventing the wheel every

few years.



Steve





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[Stephen Wolstenholme]

On Wed, 05 May 2010 14:19:38 -0500, Mark Blain

wrote:



>Alias wrote in

>news:hrs64k$3pj$2@news.eternal-september.org:

>

>> On 05/04/2010 10:34 PM, milt wrote:

>>> [...]

>>

>> They're doing it because most of their users don't even know what

>> Usenet is and most ISPs have discontinued Usenet access. It also

>> gives them more control. It has *nothing* to do with trolls like

>> Frank, Death and the Nymshifter.

>

>Even if your ISP no longer runs a Usenet server, you could still use

>Microsoft's server for *their* newsgroups (in fact, I preferred it).



I use msnews.microsoft.com and privatenews.microsoft.com directly so

the ISP is only needed for a connection. My ISP still provides Usenet

but I don't depend on it.



Steve



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[Frank]

ALIAS THE LYING LINTURD TROLL AND LINUX PIMP!

On 5/5/2010 9:38 AM, Alias wrote:

> Heywood Jablowme wrote:

>>

>>

>> "Alias" wrote in message

>> news:hrs64k$3pj$2@news.eternal-september.org...

>>> On 05/04/2010 10:34 PM, milt wrote:

>>>> Here it is.

>>>> http://community.winsupersite.com/b...-transitioning-from-newsgroups-to-forums.aspx

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>> They're doing it because most of their users don't even know what

>>> Usenet is and most ISPs have discontinued Usenet access. It also gives

>>> them more control. It has *nothing* to do with trolls like Frank,

>>> Death and the Nymshifter.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Alias

>>

>> They are doing it because of idiots like yourself who pollute the forums

>> with your Ubuntu bullshit! It's about time!

>

> No, they're not. Most Windows users have never heard of Usenet or Usenet

> trolls like you who only lies and spreads FUD and never helps anyone. If

> I were polite and went on their web forums and mentioned Ubuntu, the

> only people who would have a hissy fit would be you and your low life

> buddy Frank.

>

Yeah...right...try your fucking countdown on one of their forums and see

what happens, you *DUMB FUCK*!

You are nothing but an NS hating lying linturd troll and a linux pimp.

They've got your number you stupid arrogant piece of useless shit.

 

[Frank]

alias gets shut down!...LOL!

On 5/5/2010 9:24 AM, Alias wrote:

> On 05/04/2010 10:34 PM, milt wrote:

>> Here it is.

>> http://community.winsupersite.com/b...-transitioning-from-newsgroups-to-forums.aspx

>>

>>

>

> They're doing it because most of their users don't even know what Usenet

> is...



Wrong! They're doing it because they want to give real help to those who

ask for it and not let a cock sucking son of cheap whore drugged out

lying bastard like you pollute the group.



and most ISPs have discontinued Usenet access. It also gives them

> more control. It has *nothing* to do with trolls like Frank, Death and

> the Nymshifter.



It has everything to do with a pile of lying shit asshole loser like you.

You can't spread your fucking lies in their forums!

Oops!...LOL!

 

[Stephen Wolstenholme]

On Wed, 05 May 2010 21:21:16 +0100, LD5SZRA

wrote:



>I suspect they will

>close down WindowsXP newsgroups if Windows 7 proves not to be

>successful. Obviously, they want people to move to Windows 7 but

>if people continue using XP then they will have to do something

>about it to kill it off completely.



XP users do not need XP newsgroups so cutting them off will not kill

anything. XP will slowly fade away because Windows 7 is an improvement

and most new PCs have it pre installed.



Steve



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[Dave \Crash\ Dummy]

Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:

> On Wed, 05 May 2010 14:19:38 -0500, Mark Blain

> wrote:

>

>> Alias wrote in

>> news:hrs64k$3pj$2@news.eternal-september.org:

>>

>>> On 05/04/2010 10:34 PM, milt wrote:

>>>> [...]

>>> They're doing it because most of their users don't even know what

>>> Usenet is and most ISPs have discontinued Usenet access. It also

>>> gives them more control. It has *nothing* to do with trolls like

>>> Frank, Death and the Nymshifter.

>> Even if your ISP no longer runs a Usenet server, you could still use

>> Microsoft's server for *their* newsgroups (in fact, I preferred it).

>

> I use msnews.microsoft.com and privatenews.microsoft.com directly so

> the ISP is only needed for a connection. My ISP still provides Usenet

> but I don't depend on it.



Unfortunately, the MS news server doesn't host a Windows 7 group.



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[milt]

On 5/5/2010 7:25 PM, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:

>

> Unfortunately, the MS news server doesn't host a Windows 7 group.

>



Nope, they do not and that was the first sign MS was going to get rid of

their news server. When they stopped making newsgroups for new products,

but made new forums for them.

 

[Alias]

On 05/05/2010 09:53 PM, Heywood Jablowme wrote:

>

>

> "Alias" wrote in message

> news:hrsh10$che$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>> Heywood Jablowme wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>> "Alias" wrote in message

>>> news:hrsas9$d3s$2@news.eternal-september.org...

>>>> On 05/05/2010 07:19 PM, Heywood Jablowme wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> "Alias" wrote in message

>>>>> news:hrs6ul$bi8$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>>>>>> Heywood Jablowme wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Alias" wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:hrs64k$3pj$2@news.eternal-september.org...

>>>>>>>> On 05/04/2010 10:34 PM, milt wrote:

>>>>>>>>> Here it is.

>>>>>>>>> http://community.winsupersite.com/b...-transitioning-from-newsgroups-to-forums.aspx

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> They're doing it because most of their users don't even know what

>>>>>>>> Usenet is and most ISPs have discontinued Usenet access. It also

>>>>>>>> gives

>>>>>>>> them more control. It has *nothing* to do with trolls like Frank,

>>>>>>>> Death and the Nymshifter.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> They are doing it because of idiots like yourself who pollute the

>>>>>>> forums

>>>>>>> with your Ubuntu bullshit! It's about time!

>>>>>>

>>>>>> No, they're not. Most Windows users have never heard of Usenet or

>>>>>> Usenet trolls like you who only lies and spreads FUD and never helps

>>>>>> anyone. If I were polite and went on their web forums and mentioned

>>>>>> Ubuntu, the only people who would have a hissy fit would be you and

>>>>>> your low life buddy Frank.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Alias

>>>>>

>>>>> Most Windows users don't want anything to do with Ubuntu regardless of

>>>>> which forum they are in.

>>>>

>>>> Not true. Most Windows users don't even know what flavor of Windows

>>>> they're using, much less what Ubuntu is.

>>>>

>>>>> If you keep posting the crap you post about

>>>>> Ubuntu, they will kick your sorry ass out!

>>>>

>>>> Now you think you speak for Microsoft?

>>>>

>>>>> Better go to plan B. Take

>>>>> 100,000 Ubuntu CD's and travel Africa, trying to get converts to that

>>>>> crappy OS you love so much. Maybe you can get another 50 users! HA

>>>>> HA HA

>>>>> HA.

>>>>

>>>> Um, I'm not trying to get more users. I don't CARE what the user share

>>>> is for an operating system.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Alias

>>>

>>> There you go lying again as usual. You squawk like a mother hen with

>>> inflated numbers of Ubuntu users. You are happy to report that you

>>> "believe" there are 12+ million users. You have even quoted some dumb

>>> shit who also posted the same thing, so you do care. I keep catching you

>>> in lies over and over.

>>

>> I only post that to get your goat and it works every fucking time

>> because you're so stupid.

>

> No - You posted those numbers to validate your reason for being here



Not true.



> but

> we all saw through the lies and nailed you to the post.



Yet you can't cite one lie.



> You're just so

> stupid, you keep coming back to be beaten down some more. Must be the

> drugs that have infested that pile of dung between your ears.



Projecting again, eh?



>

>

>>

>>>

>>> You're the type of idiot who would rob a bank and write the teller a

>>> note on YOUR deposit slip! LOL!

>>

>> You rob banks intelligently?

>>

>> --

>> Alias

>





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[Gilgamesh]

"Stephen Wolstenholme" wrote in message

news:sup3u5libjlns1vge9umhd47us6j55vrfk@4ax.com...

> On Tue, 04 May 2010 18:48:06 -0500, milt

> wrote:

>

>>On 5/4/2010 5:45 PM, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:

>>> On Tue, 04 May 2010 23:33:02 +0100, LD5SZRA

>>> wrote:

>>>

>>>>

>>>> You don't have to use Forums if you don't want to because

>>>> Microsoft has released its latest version of NNTP bridge that

>>>> allows you to read forums in your newsreader. The link is here:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> hth

>>>

>>> I have seen that but I can't get it to work with my reader. I didn't

>>> try too hard as I don't use many Microsoft groups.

>>>

>>> Steve

>>>

>>

>>I got it to work, briefly...but it was a bit buggy and damn, those

>>forums were just insane to try and follow, hundreds of new posts a day

>>and so many asking the same questions. It was tough to follow. I got rid

>>of it.

>

> It would have been a far better solution if Microsoft had used a

> reliable package like MPNews. It provides unified Web forums,

> newsgroups, RSS feeds, mailing lists, and blogs all from the same

> source. http://www.messagepixels.com/mpnews/

>

> I have used a NNTP service provided by MPNews for years and have never

> known it to fail.



I use MPNews for my personal news group archive. Ever since Message Pixels

took over from Mutant Penguin support has fallen to the point that it is

non-existent. Last time I had a question (only a month or so ago) I

couldn't even post to their news groups or use their forums, and their web

site "contact us" was failing as well.



>

> It's a great pity that Microsoft insist on reinventing the wheel every

> few years.

>

> Steve

>

>

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[Dan K.]

"Mark Blain" wrote in message

news:Xns9D6FA243B2D87mblainalbany@216.168.3.70...

> I understand. Another nail in the coffin was Microsoft's decision to stop

> bundling a newsreader in Windows. As crappy as OE was, with it gone, less

> people ever discover Usenet's existence.



Windows Live Mail can carry newsgroups.

Dan k.

 

[milt]

On 5/4/2010 3:34 PM, milt wrote:

> Here it is.

> http://community.winsupersite.com/b...-transitioning-from-newsgroups-to-forums.aspx

>



Funny, a similar thread to this one on the MS servers on the Vista

newsgroup has been deleted. Go figure!

 

[Death]

Alias wrote:



> On 05/04/2010 10:34 PM, milt wrote:

>> Here it is.

>> http://community.winsupersite.com/b...-transitioning-from-newsgroups-to-forums.aspx

>>

>

> They're doing it because most of their users don't even know what Usenet

> is and most ISPs have discontinued Usenet access. It also gives them

> more control. It has *nothing* to do with trolls like Frank, Death and

> the Nymshifter.

>



Leave me out of your fantasies, you retard.

It does probably have a little to do with Death.

They can't have people called Death using their NGs.

Names like Death, Vlad-the-Impaler, Stroke-the-Monkey,

Alias-the-Ubuntard, etc create an image MS would likely want to

disassociate with.

I don't blame them.

I wouldn't hire someone with a nose-ring, facial tattoos, and a missing

eye to greet customers...though I'm sure that you would...for those

imaginary businesses you claim to run.





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"LD5SZRA" wrote in message

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>

>

> Mark Blain wrote:

>>

>

>> Even if your ISP no longer runs a Usenet server, you could still use

>> Microsoft's server for *their* newsgroups (in fact, I preferred it).

>

> Mark, that is what they are closing because they don't seem to be

> able to control it anymore. Mind you, they will start with less

> used newsgroups like Outlook Express, Microsoft Office Accounting,

> IE6 browsers then they will move on to newsgroups dealing with

> products that Microsoft no longer develops. I suspect they will

> close down WindowsXP newsgroups if Windows 7 proves not to be

> successful. Obviously, they want people to move to Windows 7 but

> if people continue using XP then they will have to do something

> about it to kill it off completely.

>

> My 2 pence worth!.

>

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[Al Smith]

Death wrote:



> They can't have people called Death using their NGs.

> Names like Death, Vlad-the-Impaler, Stroke-the-Monkey,

> Alias-the-Ubuntard, etc create an image MS would likely want to

> disassociate with.

> I don't blame them.





What's wrong with Vlad-the-Impaler? That's the name of my

mother-in-law.



-Al-

 

[Death]

"Al Smith" wrote in message

news:hs49lc$mu2$1@news.eternal-september.org...

> Death wrote:

>

>> They can't have people called Death using their NGs.

>> Names like Death, Vlad-the-Impaler, Stroke-the-Monkey,

>> Alias-the-Ubuntard, etc create an image MS would likely want to

>> disassociate with.

>> I don't blame them.

>

>

> What's wrong with Vlad-the-Impaler? That's the name of my mother-in-law.

>



LOL.



It's a good name.

We can't name our offspring like that anymore, though.



Robbie-the-TVwatcher.

Chris-the-OpenBookTesterStillOnlyGetsASixtyTwoer.

Danny-the-Dyslexic.

 

[wonderwhy]

alias cops BIGGEST IDIOT award!

On 5/5/2010 2:05 PM, Frank wrote:

> On 5/5/2010 10:43 AM, Alias wrote:

>> On 05/05/2010 07:16 PM, Heywood Jablowme wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>> "Alias" wrote in message

>>> news:hrs8du$odo$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>>>> Dan K. wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>> Usenet isn't dying but some newgroups are a waste of time because of

>>>>>> people like Aliass. That's part of the reason this is being done, so

>>>>>> it can be moderated and assholes like him banned.

>>>>>

>>>>> So true,

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> So false.

>>>>

>>>>> Many of the ng's I used to enjoy like alt.comp.freeware and

>>>>> others have been taken over by the trolls. This ng seems headed in the

>>>>> same direction. I don't find much useful information here on

>>>>> Windows 7.

>>>>> I guess moderated forums are the only way to go if you are searching

>>>>> for

>>>>> information. After a lot of the good newsgroups are gone, the trolls

>>>>> will be all alone and can masturbate to their egos together.

>>>>>

>>>>> Dan k.

>>>>

>>>> Usenet and Microsoft Public are not the same things. Usenet isn't

>>>> going anywhere and if you look at the web based Microsoft forums,

>>>> there are plenty of idiots there along with trolls so your whole post

>>>> is BULLSHIT.

>>>> --

>>>> Alias

>>>

>>> So are you going to be their biggest idiot?

>>

>> I can't, even if I tried,...

>

> You already are.

> Oops!...LOL!

>

>

He already is, always has been and always will be.

 

[no_one@no_where.invalid]

alias cops BIGGEST IDIOT award!

wonderwhy wrote:





>>

>He already is, always has been and always will be.

snip



And you have taken second place



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