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"Daave" wrote in message
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> antioch wrote:
>> "Daave" wrote in message
>> news:eToph45$KHA.3176@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> antioch wrote:
>>>> "Previously to this post I had already tried the below.
>>>> I have gone into the Bios and have moved the CD drive to show as
>>>> follows - 1st Boot Device [PM-ATAPI iHAP322 9]
>>>> Rebooted and all went OK until I got to the bit where you enter
>>>> chkdsk /r - got file path not valid.
>>>> Tried chkdsk - went through quite quickly and reported as usual
>>>> there were one or more errors.
>>>> exit out - auto reboot - windows welcome did show but after the
>>>> little train had passed through about 20 times, got the unmounted
>>>> error. Tried a second time - this time the chksk /r worked - only
>>>> the second
>>>> time it has - five minutes later at 1%
>>>> it reported that there were unrecoverable errors etc - on reboot it
>>>> got to the start to dll XP up came disc read erro - 'ctrl-alt-delete
>>>> to restart'. On restart I got a notification after XP tried to load
>>>> to the welcome screen, error win root system32\hal.dll missing or
>>>> corrupt.
>>>
>>> How is your hard drive partitioned? Is Windows on C:?
>>>
>>> What is the *exact* message with regard to the path not being valid?
>>> Is autochk.exe referenced?
>>>
>> As expected, the computer did not start - got the 'unmountable' error.
>> I have just the C drive - no partition - confirmed as I only get
>> offered 1. C:\WINDOWS>
>> and underneath I am told I can type exit
>> 1st run - This morning, as soon as I type chkdsk after the 1. option,
>> it tells me immediately that 'the volume appears to contain one or
>> more unrecoverable problems. Nothing new there except it has told me
>> this after it has done a chkdsk.
>> typing in autochk produces the usual 'The command is not recognised. Type
>> help for list. It is not in the list of commands.
>> All the 'boot cfg' options tell me 'Failed to successfully scan disks
>> for Windows Installations. This error may be caused by a corrupt
>> file system, which would prevent bootcfg from scanning. Use chkdsk
>> to detect any disk errors.'
>> As a result I cannot add/rebuild etc.
>> At the moment, if I type anything else in the command line I get 'this
>> command is not recognised - type help for list'
>> 2nd run - at the REC Con window the entry is slightly different -
>> there is the informative bit is the same, but I then have -
>> The path or file specified is not valid.
>> C:\>
>> If I add chkdsk I get 'The specified path is not valid or there is no
>> disk in the drive'
>> If I add any of the boot choices I am again told that it cannot
>> perform due to corrupt system - as before. The same for autochk.
>> Rgds
>> Antioch
>
> When you had reported that SeaTools for DOS indicated your hard drive was
> healthy, I assumed the hard drive was healthy. But it seems those results
> were very inaccurate! You most likely will need to purchase a new drive.
> Sorry that it has to be this way!
>
> You could always use another PC (a healthy one!) to scan the hard drive if
> you want to be 100% positive. Or there are certain CDs you can use (like
> UBCD4Win) that contain drive diagnostics.
>
> I don't believe you specifically identified the make and model of this
> HDD. I will verify that you used the correct utility.
>
Hello Daave
After my last post to you, I rebooted three times and on the third try the
computer started - so I did the in-house chkdsk to start at next boot up as
I had to go out.
When I returned, I took the panels off just to check the cable/leads were
all well fixed - I keep the box dusted regularly and always check the cables
when finished.
I started up - the chkdsk took over - moved this and that, deleted, loads of
things. When it finished the computer fired up again as if nothing was
wrong.
For 6 hours it has been running well - I have done a bit of research and
tried another scanner - HDDScan 3 for windows - seems very popular and
accurate.
A full SMART scan only popped up one problem - a yellow marker for 'UltraDMA
CRC Error count'
Not too sure what it means, but judging by what I have read in various
forums, it aint good - most suggest a new HDD. I was surprised though to
not get some 'RED' markers as others have, where they have been getting
BSODs and no help with Rec Con and inability to boot.
I can confirm that even in the Seagate Forums, the Seagate scanners are
treated with ridicule.
I did mention the make/model in another post - its a Maxtor. It is auto
recognised when you run the software. There is no other utility on their
site - this was the one I was told to use via email reply.
They used to do one for Maxtor, but they are one company now.
Would you perhaps have any suggestion as to a different make of HDD.
For the moment I think I might do a full install of XP and see if there
still problems booting.
I have plenty of help - michael stevens, s ramesh, kb313348 for
format/partition/full install, which I may consider if I get a larger HDD.
Many thanks to you and all who gave me support - once again it has been much
appreciated.
I cannot say 'long live the newsgroups' as they will soon be R.I.P - though
some seem to think that they may still carry on but a different 'body'.
Using forums as I have done this past week has confirmed to some degree, my
dislike for them.
I have had a look at UBCD4Win and see that it is a collection of
tools/software and is Beta-I try and avoid betaware - have had bad
experiences in the past so tend to keep away/avoid them - but there does
appear to be some nice bits in it.
Rgds
Antioch
news:#X8Tgu$$KHA.1892@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> antioch wrote:
>> "Daave" wrote in message
>> news:eToph45$KHA.3176@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> antioch wrote:
>>>> "Previously to this post I had already tried the below.
>>>> I have gone into the Bios and have moved the CD drive to show as
>>>> follows - 1st Boot Device [PM-ATAPI iHAP322 9]
>>>> Rebooted and all went OK until I got to the bit where you enter
>>>> chkdsk /r - got file path not valid.
>>>> Tried chkdsk - went through quite quickly and reported as usual
>>>> there were one or more errors.
>>>> exit out - auto reboot - windows welcome did show but after the
>>>> little train had passed through about 20 times, got the unmounted
>>>> error. Tried a second time - this time the chksk /r worked - only
>>>> the second
>>>> time it has - five minutes later at 1%
>>>> it reported that there were unrecoverable errors etc - on reboot it
>>>> got to the start to dll XP up came disc read erro - 'ctrl-alt-delete
>>>> to restart'. On restart I got a notification after XP tried to load
>>>> to the welcome screen, error win root system32\hal.dll missing or
>>>> corrupt.
>>>
>>> How is your hard drive partitioned? Is Windows on C:?
>>>
>>> What is the *exact* message with regard to the path not being valid?
>>> Is autochk.exe referenced?
>>>
>> As expected, the computer did not start - got the 'unmountable' error.
>> I have just the C drive - no partition - confirmed as I only get
>> offered 1. C:\WINDOWS>
>> and underneath I am told I can type exit
>> 1st run - This morning, as soon as I type chkdsk after the 1. option,
>> it tells me immediately that 'the volume appears to contain one or
>> more unrecoverable problems. Nothing new there except it has told me
>> this after it has done a chkdsk.
>> typing in autochk produces the usual 'The command is not recognised. Type
>> help for list. It is not in the list of commands.
>> All the 'boot cfg' options tell me 'Failed to successfully scan disks
>> for Windows Installations. This error may be caused by a corrupt
>> file system, which would prevent bootcfg from scanning. Use chkdsk
>> to detect any disk errors.'
>> As a result I cannot add/rebuild etc.
>> At the moment, if I type anything else in the command line I get 'this
>> command is not recognised - type help for list'
>> 2nd run - at the REC Con window the entry is slightly different -
>> there is the informative bit is the same, but I then have -
>> The path or file specified is not valid.
>> C:\>
>> If I add chkdsk I get 'The specified path is not valid or there is no
>> disk in the drive'
>> If I add any of the boot choices I am again told that it cannot
>> perform due to corrupt system - as before. The same for autochk.
>> Rgds
>> Antioch
>
> When you had reported that SeaTools for DOS indicated your hard drive was
> healthy, I assumed the hard drive was healthy. But it seems those results
> were very inaccurate! You most likely will need to purchase a new drive.
> Sorry that it has to be this way!
>
> You could always use another PC (a healthy one!) to scan the hard drive if
> you want to be 100% positive. Or there are certain CDs you can use (like
> UBCD4Win) that contain drive diagnostics.
>
> I don't believe you specifically identified the make and model of this
> HDD. I will verify that you used the correct utility.
>
Hello Daave
After my last post to you, I rebooted three times and on the third try the
computer started - so I did the in-house chkdsk to start at next boot up as
I had to go out.
When I returned, I took the panels off just to check the cable/leads were
all well fixed - I keep the box dusted regularly and always check the cables
when finished.
I started up - the chkdsk took over - moved this and that, deleted, loads of
things. When it finished the computer fired up again as if nothing was
wrong.
For 6 hours it has been running well - I have done a bit of research and
tried another scanner - HDDScan 3 for windows - seems very popular and
accurate.
A full SMART scan only popped up one problem - a yellow marker for 'UltraDMA
CRC Error count'
Not too sure what it means, but judging by what I have read in various
forums, it aint good - most suggest a new HDD. I was surprised though to
not get some 'RED' markers as others have, where they have been getting
BSODs and no help with Rec Con and inability to boot.
I can confirm that even in the Seagate Forums, the Seagate scanners are
treated with ridicule.
I did mention the make/model in another post - its a Maxtor. It is auto
recognised when you run the software. There is no other utility on their
site - this was the one I was told to use via email reply.
They used to do one for Maxtor, but they are one company now.
Would you perhaps have any suggestion as to a different make of HDD.
For the moment I think I might do a full install of XP and see if there
still problems booting.
I have plenty of help - michael stevens, s ramesh, kb313348 for
format/partition/full install, which I may consider if I get a larger HDD.
Many thanks to you and all who gave me support - once again it has been much
appreciated.
I cannot say 'long live the newsgroups' as they will soon be R.I.P - though
some seem to think that they may still carry on but a different 'body'.
Using forums as I have done this past week has confirmed to some degree, my
dislike for them.
I have had a look at UBCD4Win and see that it is a collection of
tools/software and is Beta-I try and avoid betaware - have had bad
experiences in the past so tend to keep away/avoid them - but there does
appear to be some nice bits in it.
Rgds
Antioch