Updates for AdAware and Spybot

[Heirloom]

ZAPro lets you know what is trying to "phone home." I have been most
pleased with the app. Process Explorer will also alert you to anything
"active" (you have to be watching, however), but, it does keep about a 5
minute graph of everything that is or has been active.

Dumped Adaware 2007 this evening. Did the usual 'Add/Remove' routine, it
left folders and files and a crap load of stuff in the registry that had to
be manually deleted. Double checked with jv16 Power Tools and it found
nothing....I did good!
Heirloom, old and Comodo sounds like a
dragon or something you would dump in.
(but, I'll check it out anyway)


"Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com.> wrote in message
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> Heather wrote:
>> Can we say "paranoia"???? Mua ha ha. Couldn't resist that, old sock!!
>>
>> I don't have Zone Alarm (XP firewall works just fine),
>
> XP will not tell you what is calling home. Check out Comodo at
>
> http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/
>
> It's free and I hear it's pretty good.
>
> no HOSTS file
>> (never did like the idea of that one) and my EZ Trust AV just expired
>> yesterday, so running without one day's updates. No big deal, frankly.
>>
>> Think about it......when was the last time your AV went off?? Years for
>> me. But will get either AVG or Avast......just have to decide which one.

 

[webster72n]

The reason I use 'Avast' is, that I ran into trouble with AVG a while back
and after experiencing with the one you are or were using, I am hung up on
Avast, to my delight, I might add. Daily automatic updates are just one of
the many laudable features. You'll see, <g>.
<H>.


"Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uCZOoEp6HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >
> > If I would tell you 'get Avast', you probably would get AVG? <vbg>.
> >
> > Harry.
>
> Wrong on that count, Harry. I just plain haven't decided which one I
> want to use. I assume there are small differences in them. I have used
> EZ Trust for at least 6 or 7 years, including when it was free and
> called InoculateIT PE. So just not sure what one I will use.
>
> Auntie Virus
>
>
>
> >
> > "Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:uqyx36o6HHA.5012@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> Can we say "paranoia"???? Mua ha ha. Couldn't resist that, old
> >> sock!!
> >>
> >> I don't have Zone Alarm (XP firewall works just fine), no HOSTS file
> >> (never did like the idea of that one) and my EZ Trust AV just expired
> >> yesterday, so running without one day's updates. No big deal,
> >> frankly.
> >>
> >> Think about it......when was the last time your AV went off?? Years
> >> for
> >> me. But will get either AVG or Avast......just have to decide which
> >> one.
> >
> >>
> >> Yep....you are right. AdAware is overkill for you. I ran Spybot
> >> today
> >> (do that about once a month) and it found 4 or 5 ad cookies in
> >> Firefox,
> >> so obviously AdAware does not check that browser......one more reason
> >> to
> >> dump it. OTOH, I prefer the speed of AdAware........and as I typed
> >> that
> >> last statement, realized that Spybot has to be better cuz it takes 5
> >> times as long (not to forget it found my FF cookie stash and checked
> >> it). I usually manually delete those anyway.
> >>
> >> HEY....was yakking with Beauregard Shagnasty (aka Shaggy) and he
> >> helped
> >> me out with a *paranoia* Firefox matter and that is when I realized
> >> that
> >> our beloved little proggie, SpywareBlaster, puts a ton of bad cookie
> >> thingies into Firefox. Not too shabby!!
> >>
> >> And my poor old face is slowly getting better. I wish I had normal
> >> roots like you guys.....drilling teeth out of my jawbone is not a fun
> >> thing to go through. My jaw is still REALLY SORE, but I have lost
> >> almost a stone!! That's OK!!!!!! Have to go back to the surgeon on
> >> Friday cuz it is still very, very sore. Ron and I head to Toronto
> >> tomorrow for his 6 month checkup. Fingers crossed, everyone!!
> >>
> >> Cheers.....Figgs.
> >> "Heirloom" <roland58XX@suddenlink.net> wrote in message
> >> news:uZ6Suvl6HHA.4348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> > Hey Figgs,
> >> > Yeah, I have about the same thing, except that I have the MS
> >> > app, the ZAPro, the HOSTS file, and others. Having the Adaware is
> >> > probably overkill, ya think? Like you, it has never found
> >> > anything....other than the odd, benign little cookie once in a
> >> > while
> >> > and I have Cookie Pal to remedy that.
> >> > I just feel like Lavasoft is shooting themselves in the foot
> >> > with this new 'crap.'
> >> > Heirloom, old and need some
> >> > breakfast
> >> >
> >> > "Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> >> > news:O217uUl6HHA.4660@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> >> Hi Loon.....
> >> >>
> >> >> I did try out Spyware Doctor and I suppose it is good, but I
> >> >> didn't
> >> >> like all the "thrashing about" in the background, so have disabled
> >> >> it.
> >> >>
> >> >> I am just using the *old three*.....Spyware S & D, AdAware 1.6 and
> >> >> SpywareBlaster. Don't think I need anything else cuz all they
> >> >> find
> >> >> is the same darn cookie every time and I can manually delete that
> >> >> one.
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers from a steamy hot Toronto.....you send this up??
> >> >>
> >> >> Figgs
> >> >>
> >> >> "Heirloom" <roland58XX@suddenlink.net> wrote in message
> >> >> news:%23S21aBl6HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> >>> Hang on gang!!!! This should be the first stop in your search
> >> >>> for
> >> >>> alternatives to Adaware:
> >> >>> http://spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm
> >> >>> It seems that a couple of the 'recommended' apps, on the first
> >> >>> link
> >> >>> I sent, have negative comments at Spywarewarrior.com.
> >> >>> I would put my trust in them before dl'ding anything.
> >> >>> Heirloom, old and looking
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "Heirloom" <roland58XX@suddenlink.net> wrote in message
> >> >>> news:eG2kK9k6HHA.3264@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> >>>> The Lavasoft Forum confirms what you both are experiencing. The
> >> >>>> biggest problem is that the Lavasoft folks don't seem to be
> >> >>>> recognizing this as a problem, yet. I have been disgruntled by
> >> >>>> the
> >> >>>> fact that the Adaware 2007 updates want you to dl'd the files
> >> >>>> for
> >> >>>> Adwatch even if you don't have the 'Pro' version, that sucks. I
> >> >>>> think that I will be seeking alternatives to this app....in
> >> >>>> spite
> >> >>>> of its' years of good service, it seems to be turning to 'poopy'
> >> >>>> almost overnight.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Adaware has never found anything on my computer and, now that
> >> >>>> ZAPro
> >> >>>> has a scanner, I really have no further use for it.
> >> >>>> This site offers a review of some alternatives:
> >> >>>> http://my.opera.com/Chewyfood/blog/show.dml/134570
> >> >>>> I am still in the process of deciding what I would like to use,
> >> >>>> if
> >> >>>> anyone else has some thoughts, please post here. I will post
> >> >>>> back
> >> >>>> with any of my findings.
> >> >>>> Heirloom, old and a big "thank
> >> >>>> you"
> >> >>>> to this wonderful NG
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> "richard" <rmk@wonderland.net> wrote in message
> >> >>>> news:ua3TSIk6HHA.5424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> >>>>> Alias wrote:
> >> >>>>>> After doing the update for AdAware, there was an icon in the
> >> >>>>>> systray. I tried to find a way to stop it from loading in the
> >> >>>>>> AdAware program and nothing. I unticked it in MSCONFIG and it
> >> >>>>>> put
> >> >>>>>> itself back so I uninstalled AdAware 2007 and will install the
> >> >>>>>> old version.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Same here. The icon in the systray seems useless and I cannot
> >> >>>>> get
> >> >>>>> rid of it. AW settings offer no option to remove it.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Is the old version still available somewhere?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> richard
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

 

[Heather]

You done good, Loon. Yeah, I know re ZA......just got lazy in my old
age. Perhaps I might put it back on here.

I use jv16 as well and don't trust the other ones. I did look at
Comodo's website and yes, that is where it comes from.....the Komodo
Dragon.

Yawn......heading off to bed. I will think about this on the weekend.
What AV are you using??

Kissies......the Cat.

"Heirloom" <roland58XX@suddenlink.net> wrote in message
news:Okgfynq6HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> ZAPro lets you know what is trying to "phone home." I have been most
> pleased with the app. Process Explorer will also alert you to
> anything "active" (you have to be watching, however), but, it does
> keep about a 5 minute graph of everything that is or has been active.
>
> Dumped Adaware 2007 this evening. Did the usual 'Add/Remove' routine,
> it left folders and files and a crap load of stuff in the registry
> that had to be manually deleted. Double checked with jv16 Power Tools
> and it found nothing....I did good!
> Heirloom, old and Comodo sounds like a
> dragon or something you would dump in.
> (but, I'll check it out anyway)
>
>
> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com.> wrote in message
> news:eFe1kMp6HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Heather wrote:
>>> Can we say "paranoia"???? Mua ha ha. Couldn't resist that, old
>>> sock!!
>>>
>>> I don't have Zone Alarm (XP firewall works just fine),
>>
>> XP will not tell you what is calling home. Check out Comodo at
>>
>> http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/
>>
>> It's free and I hear it's pretty good.
>>
>> no HOSTS file
>>> (never did like the idea of that one) and my EZ Trust AV just
>>> expired yesterday, so running without one day's updates. No big
>>> deal, frankly.
>>>
>>> Think about it......when was the last time your AV went off?? Years
>>> for me. But will get either AVG or Avast......just have to decide
>>> which one.
>
>

 

[TomV]

Hi, Heather,

FWIW, I've been using AntiVir and highly recommend it if you're using XP
Professional. It opens a nag screen when it updates, but it's possible
to disable the screen in XP Pro using the security policy editor.
Unfortunately, it's not possible to do this with XP Home.

I gave up on CA's AV app quite a while ago, used Avast for a while, and
then settled on AntiVir.

http://www.free-av.com/

Cheers,
Tom

Heather wrote:

>
> Wrong on that count, Harry. I just plain haven't decided which one I
> want to use. I assume there are small differences in them. I have used
> EZ Trust for at least 6 or 7 years, including when it was free and
> called InoculateIT PE. So just not sure what one I will use.
>
> Auntie Virus

 

[Ed Meza]

Thank you Alias and Heirloom. Yes, I have Tea Timer & I turned off the
resident S&D from the systray(sorry, had said task bar & meant systray).
Best regards,
Ed
"Heirloom" <roland58XX@suddenlink.net> wrote in message
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> Alias has it on the money. Look up 'Resident Tea Timer' in the Help and
it
> will explain everything, including how to turn it off (that will get it
out
> of the Systray).
> Heirloom, old and don't use it
>
> "Ed Meza" <tony_nospam24@q.com> wrote in message
> news:eMsD7Om6HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >I do the same with CCleaner.
> > I do have an icon in the task bar for Spybot S&D Resident, since the
> > latest
> > update. Does not allow me to remove it. Any ideas?
> > No, I live in Seattle.
> > ¡Saludos!
> > Ed
> > "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com.> wrote in message
> > news:eUPKKFl6HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> Ed Meza wrote:
> >> > I concur with you Alias. I have had Ad Aware for 2 years and all it
> > finds
> >> > is *cookies* classified as *critical*. Thus thinking about removing
it
> >> > myself.
> >> > ¡Saludos!
> >> > Ed
> >>
> >> I use Crap Cleaner to get rid of cookies and use its settings to not
> >> nuke cookies I want to keep.
> >>
> >> Salu2 Do you live in Spain?
> >> --
> >> Alias
> >> To email me, remove shoes
> >>
> >> > "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com.> wrote in message
> >> > news:urCOx7k6HHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> >> richard wrote:
> >> >>> Alias wrote:
> >> >>>> richard wrote:
> >> >>>>> Alias wrote:
> >> >>>>>> After doing the update for AdAware, there was an icon in the
> >> >>>>>> systray. I tried to find a way to stop it from loading in the
> >> >>>>>> AdAware program and nothing. I unticked it in MSCONFIG and it
put
> >> >>>>>> itself back so I uninstalled AdAware 2007 and will install the
old
> >> >>>>>> version.
> >> >>>>> Same here. The icon in the systray seems useless and I cannot get
> > rid
> >> >>>>> of it. AW settings offer no option to remove it.
> >> >>>> PITA, I agree. Uninstalling it removed the AdWareWatch crap from
the
> >> >>>> task manager too.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> Is the old version still available somewhere?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> richard
> >> >>>> I have the set-up on my computer. If you can't find it, drop me an
> >> >>>> email and I'll email it to you.
> >> >>> Thanks, Alias. I found a copy on CNET and now have it installed.
Neat
> >> >>> and simple, the way it should be. I wonder how long LavaSoft will
> >> >>> continue to provide new definition files.
> >> >> I'm thinking about not installing it at all. It never finds
anything.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Alias
> >> >> To email me, remove shoes
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >
>
>

 

[Alias]

Heirloom wrote:
> ZAPro lets you know what is trying to "phone home." I have been most
> pleased with the app. Process Explorer will also alert you to anything
> "active" (you have to be watching, however), but, it does keep about a 5
> minute graph of everything that is or has been active.
>
> Dumped Adaware 2007 this evening. Did the usual 'Add/Remove' routine, it
> left folders and files and a crap load of stuff in the registry that had to
> be manually deleted. Double checked with jv16 Power Tools and it found
> nothing....I did good!
> Heirloom, old and Comodo sounds like a
> dragon or something you would dump in.
> (but, I'll check it out anyway)
>
>

Comodo is Spanish for "comfortable".

--
Alias
To email me, remove shoes

 

[Heirloom]

That's good to know, Alias. Since I don't 'comprende', I had to resort to
the defs I knew, <g>.
Heirloom, old and will still check it out

"Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com.> wrote in message
news:OuH0Gru6HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Heirloom wrote:
>> ZAPro lets you know what is trying to "phone home." I have been most
>> pleased with the app. Process Explorer will also alert you to anything
>> "active" (you have to be watching, however), but, it does keep about a 5
>> minute graph of everything that is or has been active.
>>
>> Dumped Adaware 2007 this evening. Did the usual 'Add/Remove' routine, it
>> left folders and files and a crap load of stuff in the registry that had
>> to be manually deleted. Double checked with jv16 Power Tools and it
>> found nothing....I did good!
>> Heirloom, old and Comodo sounds like a
>> dragon or something you would dump in.
>> (but, I'll check it out anyway)
>>
>>
>
> Comodo is Spanish for "comfortable".
>
> --
> Alias
> To email me, remove shoes

 

[Heirloom]

Alias,
I did check out Comodo, it compares closely with the free and paid
version of ZA. As I am using the ZAPro and am happy with it, I will simply
keep the Comodo in mind for future use. May put it on the wife's
laptop.....after I go through the effort of removing all the crappy
'trialware' that it is currently infesting it, to include AOL and NIS!!
(that's going to be fun!)
Heirloom, old and buyers should have the option
of having trialware

"Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com.> wrote in message
news:OuH0Gru6HHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Heirloom wrote:
>> ZAPro lets you know what is trying to "phone home." I have been most
>> pleased with the app. Process Explorer will also alert you to anything
>> "active" (you have to be watching, however), but, it does keep about a 5
>> minute graph of everything that is or has been active.
>>
>> Dumped Adaware 2007 this evening. Did the usual 'Add/Remove' routine, it
>> left folders and files and a crap load of stuff in the registry that had
>> to be manually deleted. Double checked with jv16 Power Tools and it
>> found nothing....I did good!
>> Heirloom, old and Comodo sounds like a
>> dragon or something you would dump in.
>> (but, I'll check it out anyway)
>>
>>
>
> Comodo is Spanish for "comfortable".
>
> --
> Alias
> To email me, remove shoes

 

[Eric]

Computers don't come with trialware if you buy the OS seperately. If you
buy it installed, the trialware brings the price down some. The software
makers pay the hardware vendors to stick their ads on there. I got a new
IBM machine that came with a TON of trialware and junk icons on the desktop.

Did it at least come with disks? The most annoying trend these days is
package machines that don't come with disks for the OS, where they give you
an option to create "restore" disks which will reinstall your OS for you
(including trialware) and can require as much as 13 blank CDs.

"Heirloom" <roland58XX@suddenlink.net> wrote in message
news:e3aaYkx6HHA.3740@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Alias,
> I did check out Comodo, it compares closely with the free and paid
> version of ZA. As I am using the ZAPro and am happy with it, I will
> simply keep the Comodo in mind for future use. May put it on the wife's
> laptop.....after I go through the effort of removing all the crappy
> 'trialware' that it is currently infesting it, to include AOL and NIS!!
> (that's going to be fun!)
> Heirloom, old and buyers should have the option
> of having trialware
>

 

[Heather]

Thanks Tom....but I am using XP Home. I figure I am safe for a while
with my *dead as a doornail* EZ Trust monitoring stuff. May go for
Avast, and then again.....may go for AVG. For now, anyway.

Best from a now cooler Ontari-ari-ari-oh!! Don't like high 80's temps.
They are like one massive hot flash!! (VBG)

Heather

"TomV" <t@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:eqaMU6r6HHA.2752@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hi, Heather,
>
> FWIW, I've been using AntiVir and highly recommend it if you're using
> XP Professional. It opens a nag screen when it updates, but it's
> possible to disable the screen in XP Pro using the security policy
> editor. Unfortunately, it's not possible to do this with XP Home.
>
> I gave up on CA's AV app quite a while ago, used Avast for a while,
> and then settled on AntiVir.
>
> http://www.free-av.com/
>
> Cheers,
> Tom
>
> Heather wrote:
>
>>
>> Wrong on that count, Harry. I just plain haven't decided which one I
>> want to use. I assume there are small differences in them. I have
>> used EZ Trust for at least 6 or 7 years, including when it was free
>> and called InoculateIT PE. So just not sure what one I will use.
>>
>> Auntie Virus

 

[Heirloom]

Your preaching to the choir, Eric. Yep, I know about pre-packaged machines
coming with all the crap ware.....I just think that when paying for
something, you should get the choice of what goes on. And, no, it did not
come with the OS discs....
it didn't even come with recovery discs! One has to make their own. I put
everything on DVD's and it only took 1.5 or so.

I will be making a backup using Acronis to a 250G USB 2.0 external, 7200rpm
HD. Incremental backups will be made until everything is cooking and a
final configuration is setup....well, close to final. This drive will be
kept off location until needed and is big enough to backup the wife's laptop
and my desktop (compressed).
Heirloom, old and a good house cleaning is
in order

"Eric" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:%235pzm8x6HHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Computers don't come with trialware if you buy the OS seperately. If you
> buy it installed, the trialware brings the price down some. The software
> makers pay the hardware vendors to stick their ads on there. I got a new
> IBM machine that came with a TON of trialware and junk icons on the
> desktop.
>
> Did it at least come with disks? The most annoying trend these days is
> package machines that don't come with disks for the OS, where they give
> you an option to create "restore" disks which will reinstall your OS for
> you (including trialware) and can require as much as 13 blank CDs.
>
> "Heirloom" <roland58XX@suddenlink.net> wrote in message
> news:e3aaYkx6HHA.3740@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Alias,
>> I did check out Comodo, it compares closely with the free and paid
>> version of ZA. As I am using the ZAPro and am happy with it, I will
>> simply keep the Comodo in mind for future use. May put it on the wife's
>> laptop.....after I go through the effort of removing all the crappy
>> 'trialware' that it is currently infesting it, to include AOL and NIS!!
>> (that's going to be fun!)
>> Heirloom, old and buyers should have the
>> option of having trialware
>>
>
>
>