Dual Boot for WinME and Win2000?

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webster72n

Is dual boot for WinME and Win2000 feasible and/or recommendable for the
home user? I'm almost certain it is feasible, but is it recommendable also?
Ubuntu and WinME don't seem to like each other, at least in my case.
Adding Win2000 would give me additional opportunities I would like to have.
Any and all comments are welcome, thank you.

Harry.
 
M

Mike M

Using a third party boot manager such as BING allows virtually any OS to
multi-boot with another. The only limit being the number of OSs and
partitions on your hard drive and BING can handle up to, I think, 256
partitions although, of course, only four primary or three primary and an
extended partition can appear in the partition table at any one time.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


webster72n <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote:

> Is dual boot for WinME and Win2000 feasible and/or recommendable for
> the home user? I'm almost certain it is feasible, but is it
> recommendable also? Ubuntu and WinME don't seem to like each other,
> at least in my case. Adding Win2000 would give me additional
> opportunities I would like to have. Any and all comments are welcome,
> thank you.
>
> Harry.
 
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webster72n

Thank you Mike.
Even though your reply doesn't provide the direct answer to my question, it
brings me to my follow-up question:
Before installing Win2000 on the second drive with a yet "unallocated" file
system (unformatted), should the drive be partitioned and formatted
beforehand, or can this be done during installation?
I have PM8, including BootMagic, installed to help me with the dual boot, as
well as with any partitioning or other related problems, should they arise.

Harry.


"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
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> Using a third party boot manager such as BING allows virtually any OS to
> multi-boot with another. The only limit being the number of OSs and
> partitions on your hard drive and BING can handle up to, I think, 256
> partitions although, of course, only four primary or three primary and an
> extended partition can appear in the partition table at any one time.
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
>
> webster72n <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Is dual boot for WinME and Win2000 feasible and/or recommendable for
> > the home user? I'm almost certain it is feasible, but is it
> > recommendable also? Ubuntu and WinME don't seem to like each other,
> > at least in my case. Adding Win2000 would give me additional
> > opportunities I would like to have. Any and all comments are welcome,
> > thank you.
> >
> > Harry.

>
 
M

Mike M

How you install your second OS is up to you entirely and yes, I answered
your question which was "is dual boot for Win Me and Window 2000
feasible?" mentioning that IMO the best method of so doing is to use a
third party boot manager. I also stated (by implication) that Ubuntu and
Win Me could be dual booted on the same system. As to your second
question whether I would recommend this for a home user, I intentionally
chose not to answer leaving that for you to decide for yourself. The term
home user covers a wide range of skills with many happily multi-booting
several OSs whilst others can barely use the one they have.

I have not used Boot Magic as a boot manager for about 8 years so am
unwilling to comment on how best to use this boot manager. I don't recall
PM's capabilities and have never used PM8 (it might have been PM6 I last
used) however I have a rule that I never allow any OS to see another using
my boot manager to either hide or remove from the partition table
partitions containing other OSs. I also tend to install into partitions
that I have already created but whether I format first or not depends on
the OS I am installing and I cannot recall the options available when
installing W2K. This may have changed but one feature of Boot Magic that
I did not like was that to use it it was installed on a partition
containing an operating system meaning that that partition has always to
be present although I'm guessing one could also boot from a floppy,
whereas a boot manager such as BING can be installed in its own 8MB
partition meaning that no OS is dependent on the presence of any other
partition with even the BING partition being hidden or removed from the
partition table when running the OS.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby@gmail.com


webster72n <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you Mike.
> Even though your reply doesn't provide the direct answer to my
> question, it brings me to my follow-up question:
> Before installing Win2000 on the second drive with a yet
> "unallocated" file system (unformatted), should the drive be
> partitioned and formatted beforehand, or can this be done during
> installation?
> I have PM8, including BootMagic, installed to help me with the dual
> boot, as well as with any partitioning or other related problems,
> should they arise.
 
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webster72n

That covers it quite well, Mike, thank you.
I will be able to figure the rest out myself on hand of your descriptions.
Since I was unable to simply 'run' ubuntu under WinME, let alone installing
it,
I have decided in favor of W2k.
Thanks again.

Harry.


"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
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> How you install your second OS is up to you entirely and yes, I answered
> your question which was "is dual boot for Win Me and Window 2000
> feasible?" mentioning that IMO the best method of so doing is to use a
> third party boot manager. I also stated (by implication) that Ubuntu and
> Win Me could be dual booted on the same system. As to your second
> question whether I would recommend this for a home user, I intentionally
> chose not to answer leaving that for you to decide for yourself. The term
> home user covers a wide range of skills with many happily multi-booting
> several OSs whilst others can barely use the one they have.
>
> I have not used Boot Magic as a boot manager for about 8 years so am
> unwilling to comment on how best to use this boot manager. I don't recall
> PM's capabilities and have never used PM8 (it might have been PM6 I last
> used) however I have a rule that I never allow any OS to see another using
> my boot manager to either hide or remove from the partition table
> partitions containing other OSs. I also tend to install into partitions
> that I have already created but whether I format first or not depends on
> the OS I am installing and I cannot recall the options available when
> installing W2K. This may have changed but one feature of Boot Magic that
> I did not like was that to use it it was installed on a partition
> containing an operating system meaning that that partition has always to
> be present although I'm guessing one could also boot from a floppy,
> whereas a boot manager such as BING can be installed in its own 8MB
> partition meaning that no OS is dependent on the presence of any other
> partition with even the BING partition being hidden or removed from the
> partition table when running the OS.
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby@gmail.com
>
>
> webster72n <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thank you Mike.
> > Even though your reply doesn't provide the direct answer to my
> > question, it brings me to my follow-up question:
> > Before installing Win2000 on the second drive with a yet
> > "unallocated" file system (unformatted), should the drive be
> > partitioned and formatted beforehand, or can this be done during
> > installation?
> > I have PM8, including BootMagic, installed to help me with the dual
> > boot, as well as with any partitioning or other related problems,
> > should they arise.

>
 
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Alias

webster72n wrote:
> That covers it quite well, Mike, thank you.
> I will be able to figure the rest out myself on hand of your descriptions.
> Since I was unable to simply 'run' ubuntu under WinME, let alone installing
> it,
> I have decided in favor of W2k.
> Thanks again.
>
> Harry.


Do you have all your W2K drivers? If so, there really isn't any need for
Win Me as W2K is a far superior product.

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webster72n

"Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com.> wrote in message
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> webster72n wrote:
> > That covers it quite well, Mike, thank you.
> > I will be able to figure the rest out myself on hand of your

descriptions.
> > Since I was unable to simply 'run' ubuntu under WinME, let alone

installing
> > it,
> > I have decided in favor of W2k.
> > Thanks again.
> >
> > Harry.

>
> Do you have all your W2K drivers? If so, there really isn't any need for
> Win Me as W2K is a far superior product.


It's not a question of superiority, Alias. To burn an iso image file with a
free burner, I need W2k, because it will not work under ME. Once W2k is
installed, I will be able to burn the image for the mini installation of
ubuntu to CD and, hence, finally install ubuntu on my machine. As you can
see, I haven't given up on it, just chosen a different route.
What is it I need to know about the W2k drivers?

Harry.

>
> --
> Alias
> To email me, remove shoes
 
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John John

webster72n wrote:

> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com.> wrote in message
> news:%23HViFzp6HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
>>webster72n wrote:
>>
>>>That covers it quite well, Mike, thank you.
>>>I will be able to figure the rest out myself on hand of your

>
> descriptions.
>
>>>Since I was unable to simply 'run' ubuntu under WinME, let alone

>
> installing
>
>>>it,
>>>I have decided in favor of W2k.
>>>Thanks again.
>>>
>>> Harry.

>>
>>Do you have all your W2K drivers? If so, there really isn't any need for
>>Win Me as W2K is a far superior product.

>
>
> It's not a question of superiority, Alias. To burn an iso image file with a
> free burner, I need W2k, because it will not work under ME. Once W2k is
> installed, I will be able to burn the image for the mini installation of
> ubuntu to CD and, hence, finally install ubuntu on my machine. As you can
> see, I haven't given up on it, just chosen a different route.
> What is it I need to know about the W2k drivers?


??? You want to install Windows 2000 just to burn an ISO image with
your CD burner? Why can't you do this with Windows ME? Might be easier
to try different burning software instead of installing a different OS.
http://www.deepburner.com/?r=products&pr=deepburner

John
 
W

webster72n

Thanks for that one, John, I looked all over the internet and the best I
could come up with was the 'FinalBurner', which will not work with ME but
W2k.
Am downloading your's now and will let you know how I made out in the end.

Harry.


"John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:uGbz6dq6HHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> webster72n wrote:
>
> > "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com.> wrote in message
> > news:%23HViFzp6HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >
> >>webster72n wrote:
> >>
> >>>That covers it quite well, Mike, thank you.
> >>>I will be able to figure the rest out myself on hand of your

> >
> > descriptions.
> >
> >>>Since I was unable to simply 'run' ubuntu under WinME, let alone

> >
> > installing
> >
> >>>it,
> >>>I have decided in favor of W2k.
> >>>Thanks again.
> >>>
> >>> Harry.
> >>
> >>Do you have all your W2K drivers? If so, there really isn't any need for
> >>Win Me as W2K is a far superior product.

> >
> >
> > It's not a question of superiority, Alias. To burn an iso image file

with a
> > free burner, I need W2k, because it will not work under ME. Once W2k is
> > installed, I will be able to burn the image for the mini installation of
> > ubuntu to CD and, hence, finally install ubuntu on my machine. As you

can
> > see, I haven't given up on it, just chosen a different route.
> > What is it I need to know about the W2k drivers?

>
> ??? You want to install Windows 2000 just to burn an ISO image with
> your CD burner? Why can't you do this with Windows ME? Might be easier
> to try different burning software instead of installing a different OS.
> http://www.deepburner.com/?r=products&pr=deepburner
>
> John
 
W

webster72n

All indications are, you saved my day, John.
This excursion was well worth it.
Now I will put this thing to work and when it's all said and done, let you
know
how I made out.
Thanks a million.

Harry.


"webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Thanks for that one, John, I looked all over the internet and the best I
> could come up with was the 'FinalBurner', which will not work with ME but
> W2k.
> Am downloading your's now and will let you know how I made out in the end.
>
> Harry.
>
>
> "John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> news:uGbz6dq6HHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > webster72n wrote:
> >
> > > "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com.> wrote in message
> > > news:%23HViFzp6HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > >
> > >>webster72n wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>That covers it quite well, Mike, thank you.
> > >>>I will be able to figure the rest out myself on hand of your
> > >
> > > descriptions.
> > >
> > >>>Since I was unable to simply 'run' ubuntu under WinME, let alone
> > >
> > > installing
> > >
> > >>>it,
> > >>>I have decided in favor of W2k.
> > >>>Thanks again.
> > >>>
> > >>> Harry.
> > >>
> > >>Do you have all your W2K drivers? If so, there really isn't any need

for
> > >>Win Me as W2K is a far superior product.
> > >
> > >
> > > It's not a question of superiority, Alias. To burn an iso image file

> with a
> > > free burner, I need W2k, because it will not work under ME. Once W2k

is
> > > installed, I will be able to burn the image for the mini installation

of
> > > ubuntu to CD and, hence, finally install ubuntu on my machine. As you

> can
> > > see, I haven't given up on it, just chosen a different route.
> > > What is it I need to know about the W2k drivers?

> >
> > ??? You want to install Windows 2000 just to burn an ISO image with
> > your CD burner? Why can't you do this with Windows ME? Might be easier
> > to try different burning software instead of installing a different OS.
> > http://www.deepburner.com/?r=products&pr=deepburner
> >
> > John

>
>
 
J

John John

Another one here that should work:
http://www.cdburnerxp.se/features.php

If you find that these burners don't work it could be an ASPI driver
problem.

John

webster72n wrote:

> Thanks for that one, John, I looked all over the internet and the best I
> could come up with was the 'FinalBurner', which will not work with ME but
> W2k.
> Am downloading your's now and will let you know how I made out in the end.
>
> Harry.
>
>
> "John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> news:uGbz6dq6HHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
>>webster72n wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com.> wrote in message
>>>news:%23HViFzp6HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>
>>>>webster72n wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>That covers it quite well, Mike, thank you.
>>>>>I will be able to figure the rest out myself on hand of your
>>>
>>>descriptions.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Since I was unable to simply 'run' ubuntu under WinME, let alone
>>>
>>>installing
>>>
>>>
>>>>>it,
>>>>>I have decided in favor of W2k.
>>>>>Thanks again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Harry.
>>>>
>>>>Do you have all your W2K drivers? If so, there really isn't any need for
>>>>Win Me as W2K is a far superior product.
>>>
>>>
>>>It's not a question of superiority, Alias. To burn an iso image file

>
> with a
>
>>>free burner, I need W2k, because it will not work under ME. Once W2k is
>>>installed, I will be able to burn the image for the mini installation of
>>>ubuntu to CD and, hence, finally install ubuntu on my machine. As you

>
> can
>
>>>see, I haven't given up on it, just chosen a different route.
>>>What is it I need to know about the W2k drivers?

>>
>>??? You want to install Windows 2000 just to burn an ISO image with
>>your CD burner? Why can't you do this with Windows ME? Might be easier
>>to try different burning software instead of installing a different OS.
>> http://www.deepburner.com/?r=products&pr=deepburner
>>
>>John

>
>
>
 
J

John John

You're welcome, Harry.

John

webster72n wrote:

> All indications are, you saved my day, John.
> This excursion was well worth it.
> Now I will put this thing to work and when it's all said and done, let you
> know
> how I made out.
> Thanks a million.
>
> Harry.
>
>
> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23G%23Dl5q6HHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
>>Thanks for that one, John, I looked all over the internet and the best I
>>could come up with was the 'FinalBurner', which will not work with ME but
>>W2k.
>>Am downloading your's now and will let you know how I made out in the end.
>>
>> Harry.
>>
>>
>>"John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>news:uGbz6dq6HHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>webster72n wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com.> wrote in message
>>>>news:%23HViFzp6HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>webster72n wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>That covers it quite well, Mike, thank you.
>>>>>>I will be able to figure the rest out myself on hand of your
>>>>
>>>>descriptions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Since I was unable to simply 'run' ubuntu under WinME, let alone
>>>>
>>>>installing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>it,
>>>>>>I have decided in favor of W2k.
>>>>>>Thanks again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Harry.
>>>>>
>>>>>Do you have all your W2K drivers? If so, there really isn't any need

>
> for
>
>>>>>Win Me as W2K is a far superior product.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It's not a question of superiority, Alias. To burn an iso image file

>>
>>with a
>>
>>>>free burner, I need W2k, because it will not work under ME. Once W2k

>
> is
>
>>>>installed, I will be able to burn the image for the mini installation

>
> of
>
>>>>ubuntu to CD and, hence, finally install ubuntu on my machine. As you

>>
>>can
>>
>>>>see, I haven't given up on it, just chosen a different route.
>>>>What is it I need to know about the W2k drivers?
>>>
>>>??? You want to install Windows 2000 just to burn an ISO image with
>>>your CD burner? Why can't you do this with Windows ME? Might be easier
>>>to try different burning software instead of installing a different OS.
>>> http://www.deepburner.com/?r=products&pr=deepburner
>>>
>>>John

>>
>>

>
>
 
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Alias

webster72n wrote:
> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com.> wrote in message
> news:%23HViFzp6HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> webster72n wrote:
>>> That covers it quite well, Mike, thank you.
>>> I will be able to figure the rest out myself on hand of your

> descriptions.
>>> Since I was unable to simply 'run' ubuntu under WinME, let alone

> installing
>>> it,
>>> I have decided in favor of W2k.
>>> Thanks again.
>>>
>>> Harry.

>> Do you have all your W2K drivers? If so, there really isn't any need for
>> Win Me as W2K is a far superior product.

>
> It's not a question of superiority, Alias. To burn an iso image file with a
> free burner, I need W2k, because it will not work under ME. Once W2k is
> installed, I will be able to burn the image for the mini installation of
> ubuntu to CD and, hence, finally install ubuntu on my machine. As you can
> see, I haven't given up on it, just chosen a different route.
> What is it I need to know about the W2k drivers?
>
> Harry.


Why don´t you just order the Free CD from Ubuntu?

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webster72n

"Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message
news:fb63id$jad$3@aioe.org...
> webster72n wrote:
> > "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com.> wrote in message
> > news:%23HViFzp6HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> webster72n wrote:
> >>> That covers it quite well, Mike, thank you.
> >>> I will be able to figure the rest out myself on hand of your

> > descriptions.
> >>> Since I was unable to simply 'run' ubuntu under WinME, let alone

> > installing
> >>> it,
> >>> I have decided in favor of W2k.
> >>> Thanks again.
> >>>
> >>> Harry.
> >> Do you have all your W2K drivers? If so, there really isn't any need

for
> >> Win Me as W2K is a far superior product.

> >
> > It's not a question of superiority, Alias. To burn an iso image file

with a
> > free burner, I need W2k, because it will not work under ME. Once W2k is
> > installed, I will be able to burn the image for the mini installation of
> > ubuntu to CD and, hence, finally install ubuntu on my machine. As you

can
> > see, I haven't given up on it, just chosen a different route.
> > What is it I need to know about the W2k drivers?
> >
> > Harry.

>
> Why don´t you just order the Free CD from Ubuntu?


That's where my problems start, Alias, I thought you were up-to-date on my
situation, but that's not the case. As a matter of fact I have the two
latest versions at my disposal, but I can't run them, because of the
screwed-up desktop image.
The security catalog file of the disk is branded as "invalid" in my system.
When I tried to install the 'mini version' of ubuntu, I encountered two
errors, forcing me to abandon the installation and being fortunate not to
have had major problems:
1. my network hardware could not be detected and
2. out of all available mirror archives none was to be found for me.
In the forum I was advised to "Burn the ISO Image" to CD instead of the
"Data".
Hence my attempts to obtain the free burner.
Adaptec CD Creator is in my reservoir, but it can only create data and audio
cd's.
On top of it there seems to be a conflict between Adaptec and DeepBurner,
with me probably having to uninstall Adaptec first.
I'll have to work that out.

Harry.
>
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> Alias
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webster72n

Thanks John. The problem seems to be a conflict between my Adaptec CD
Creator and the DeepBurner. When I get to the 'burn iso' situation, I have
only the 'erase' button available, the 'cancel' and 'burn iso' buttons are
grayed out.
I suspect that's because of 'Adaptec'.
I am downloading and will install and try your second offer.
Hoping to succeed in the end.

Harry.


"John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
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> Another one here that should work:
> http://www.cdburnerxp.se/features.php
>
> If you find that these burners don't work it could be an ASPI driver
> problem.
>
> John
>
> webster72n wrote:
>
> > Thanks for that one, John, I looked all over the internet and the best I
> > could come up with was the 'FinalBurner', which will not work with ME

but
> > W2k.
> > Am downloading your's now and will let you know how I made out in the

end.
> >
> > Harry.
> >
> >
> > "John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> > news:uGbz6dq6HHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >
> >>webster72n wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>"Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com.> wrote in message
> >>>news:%23HViFzp6HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>webster72n wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>That covers it quite well, Mike, thank you.
> >>>>>I will be able to figure the rest out myself on hand of your
> >>>
> >>>descriptions.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>Since I was unable to simply 'run' ubuntu under WinME, let alone
> >>>
> >>>installing
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>it,
> >>>>>I have decided in favor of W2k.
> >>>>>Thanks again.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Harry.
> >>>>
> >>>>Do you have all your W2K drivers? If so, there really isn't any need

for
> >>>>Win Me as W2K is a far superior product.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>It's not a question of superiority, Alias. To burn an iso image file

> >
> > with a
> >
> >>>free burner, I need W2k, because it will not work under ME. Once W2k is
> >>>installed, I will be able to burn the image for the mini installation

of
> >>>ubuntu to CD and, hence, finally install ubuntu on my machine. As you

> >
> > can
> >
> >>>see, I haven't given up on it, just chosen a different route.
> >>>What is it I need to know about the W2k drivers?
> >>
> >>??? You want to install Windows 2000 just to burn an ISO image with
> >>your CD burner? Why can't you do this with Windows ME? Might be easier
> >>to try different burning software instead of installing a different OS.
> >> http://www.deepburner.com/?r=products&pr=deepburner
> >>
> >>John

> >
> >
> >
 
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George Gee

Harry

Are the two copies of Ubuntu that you possess both ISO images?
Or are you trying to make an ISO image from the CD's?
Can you supply a link to the forum that says
'Burn the ISO Image'?

George Gee


"webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fb63id$jad$3@aioe.org...
>> webster72n wrote:
>> > "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com.> wrote in message
>> > news:%23HViFzp6HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> webster72n wrote:
>> >>> That covers it quite well, Mike, thank you.
>> >>> I will be able to figure the rest out myself on hand of your
>> > descriptions.
>> >>> Since I was unable to simply 'run' ubuntu under WinME, let alone
>> > installing
>> >>> it,
>> >>> I have decided in favor of W2k.
>> >>> Thanks again.
>> >>>
>> >>> Harry.
>> >> Do you have all your W2K drivers? If so, there really isn't any need

> for
>> >> Win Me as W2K is a far superior product.
>> >
>> > It's not a question of superiority, Alias. To burn an iso image file

> with a
>> > free burner, I need W2k, because it will not work under ME. Once W2k is
>> > installed, I will be able to burn the image for the mini installation
>> > of
>> > ubuntu to CD and, hence, finally install ubuntu on my machine. As you

> can
>> > see, I haven't given up on it, just chosen a different route.
>> > What is it I need to know about the W2k drivers?
>> >
>> > Harry.

>>
>> Why don´t you just order the Free CD from Ubuntu?

>
> That's where my problems start, Alias, I thought you were up-to-date on my
> situation, but that's not the case. As a matter of fact I have the two
> latest versions at my disposal, but I can't run them, because of the
> screwed-up desktop image.
> The security catalog file of the disk is branded as "invalid" in my
> system.
> When I tried to install the 'mini version' of ubuntu, I encountered two
> errors, forcing me to abandon the installation and being fortunate not to
> have had major problems:
> 1. my network hardware could not be detected and
> 2. out of all available mirror archives none was to be found for me.
> In the forum I was advised to "Burn the ISO Image" to CD instead of the
> "Data".
> Hence my attempts to obtain the free burner.
> Adaptec CD Creator is in my reservoir, but it can only create data and
> audio
> cd's.
> On top of it there seems to be a conflict between Adaptec and DeepBurner,
> with me probably having to uninstall Adaptec first.
> I'll have to work that out.
>
> Harry.
>>
>> --
>> Alias
>> To email me, remove shoes

>
>
 
H

Heather

Harry......Adaptec is horribly outdated. What version do you have?? 3
or 4?? Dump it and get Nero or Roxio (Roxio bought out Adaptec eons
ago). I happen to use both of them, but you have to buy them.

I think you are going to mess up again if you get into this ISO
business. Just use WinME and leave that other weirdo Ubuntu stuff
alone. You seem to have a *black cloud* over your head when it comes to
computers, grin.

Heather, wondering why in hell you need two Operating Systems on that
old machine......

"webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e164nX06HHA.4660@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Thanks John. The problem seems to be a conflict between my Adaptec CD
> Creator and the DeepBurner. When I get to the 'burn iso' situation, I
> have
> only the 'erase' button available, the 'cancel' and 'burn iso' buttons
> are
> grayed out.
> I suspect that's because of 'Adaptec'.
> I am downloading and will install and try your second offer.
> Hoping to succeed in the end.
>
> Harry.
>
>
> "John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> news:eSn3jCr6HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Another one here that should work:
>> http://www.cdburnerxp.se/features.php
>>
>> If you find that these burners don't work it could be an ASPI driver
>> problem.
>>
>> John
>>
>> webster72n wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks for that one, John, I looked all over the internet and the
>> > best I
>> > could come up with was the 'FinalBurner', which will not work with
>> > ME

> but
>> > W2k.
>> > Am downloading your's now and will let you know how I made out in
>> > the

> end.
>> >
>> > Harry.
>> >
>> >
>> > "John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:uGbz6dq6HHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >
>> >>webster72n wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>"Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com.> wrote in message
>> >>>news:%23HViFzp6HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>webster72n wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>That covers it quite well, Mike, thank you.
>> >>>>>I will be able to figure the rest out myself on hand of your
>> >>>
>> >>>descriptions.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>>Since I was unable to simply 'run' ubuntu under WinME, let alone
>> >>>
>> >>>installing
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>>it,
>> >>>>>I have decided in favor of W2k.
>> >>>>>Thanks again.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Harry.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Do you have all your W2K drivers? If so, there really isn't any
>> >>>>need

> for
>> >>>>Win Me as W2K is a far superior product.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>It's not a question of superiority, Alias. To burn an iso image
>> >>>file
>> >
>> > with a
>> >
>> >>>free burner, I need W2k, because it will not work under ME. Once
>> >>>W2k is
>> >>>installed, I will be able to burn the image for the mini
>> >>>installation

> of
>> >>>ubuntu to CD and, hence, finally install ubuntu on my machine. As
>> >>>you
>> >
>> > can
>> >
>> >>>see, I haven't given up on it, just chosen a different route.
>> >>>What is it I need to know about the W2k drivers?
>> >>
>> >>??? You want to install Windows 2000 just to burn an ISO image
>> >>with
>> >>your CD burner? Why can't you do this with Windows ME? Might be
>> >>easier
>> >>to try different burning software instead of installing a different
>> >>OS.
>> >> http://www.deepburner.com/?r=products&pr=deepburner
>> >>
>> >>John
>> >
>> >
>> >

>
>
 
W

webster72n

George, I just finished 'burning' the 'mini iso' image to CD with
'DeepBurner'.
After downloading the second offering from John, I went back to DeepBurner
and whooallaa, it worked. I did get the 'iso' image for the
mini-installation from the ubuntu forum, since I couldn't get the 'live' CD
from Ubuntu to work.
Now I have the CD I am supposed to have, according to opinions in the forum
and will proceed to install ubuntu and see if it will work.
Will let you know later if it did - or not (no way).\

Harry.


"George Gee" <georgegee@nomaps.com> wrote in message
news:Oxg06h06HHA.4436@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Harry
>
> Are the two copies of Ubuntu that you possess both ISO images?
> Or are you trying to make an ISO image from the CD's?
> Can you supply a link to the forum that says
> 'Burn the ISO Image'?
>
> George Gee
>
>
> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O5oKhP06HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >
> > "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:fb63id$jad$3@aioe.org...
> >> webster72n wrote:
> >> > "Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com.> wrote in message
> >> > news:%23HViFzp6HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> >> webster72n wrote:
> >> >>> That covers it quite well, Mike, thank you.
> >> >>> I will be able to figure the rest out myself on hand of your
> >> > descriptions.
> >> >>> Since I was unable to simply 'run' ubuntu under WinME, let alone
> >> > installing
> >> >>> it,
> >> >>> I have decided in favor of W2k.
> >> >>> Thanks again.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Harry.
> >> >> Do you have all your W2K drivers? If so, there really isn't any need

> > for
> >> >> Win Me as W2K is a far superior product.
> >> >
> >> > It's not a question of superiority, Alias. To burn an iso image file

> > with a
> >> > free burner, I need W2k, because it will not work under ME. Once W2k

is
> >> > installed, I will be able to burn the image for the mini installation
> >> > of
> >> > ubuntu to CD and, hence, finally install ubuntu on my machine. As you

> > can
> >> > see, I haven't given up on it, just chosen a different route.
> >> > What is it I need to know about the W2k drivers?
> >> >
> >> > Harry.
> >>
> >> Why don´t you just order the Free CD from Ubuntu?

> >
> > That's where my problems start, Alias, I thought you were up-to-date on

my
> > situation, but that's not the case. As a matter of fact I have the two
> > latest versions at my disposal, but I can't run them, because of the
> > screwed-up desktop image.
> > The security catalog file of the disk is branded as "invalid" in my
> > system.
> > When I tried to install the 'mini version' of ubuntu, I encountered two
> > errors, forcing me to abandon the installation and being fortunate not

to
> > have had major problems:
> > 1. my network hardware could not be detected and
> > 2. out of all available mirror archives none was to be found for me.
> > In the forum I was advised to "Burn the ISO Image" to CD instead of the
> > "Data".
> > Hence my attempts to obtain the free burner.
> > Adaptec CD Creator is in my reservoir, but it can only create data and
> > audio
> > cd's.
> > On top of it there seems to be a conflict between Adaptec and

DeepBurner,
> > with me probably having to uninstall Adaptec first.
> > I'll have to work that out.
> >
> > Harry.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Alias
> >> To email me, remove shoes

> >
> >

>
>
 
W

webster72n

I would prefer if you kept 'your opinion' to yourself, Heather, at least
when it's negative. I happen to be 'mostly' optimistic.
There are no problems with 'Adaptec' and as far as 'Ubuntu' is concerned,
I plan to 'make it work', like it or not.
I am sure greatful for the magnificent support I've found, here and with the
ubuntu forum. Don't worry about 'any' clouds, dark or otherwise, please.
Everything is working like clockwork on this machine (knock on wood?).

Harry.


"Heather" <figgyd@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23LJ7Q006HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Harry......Adaptec is horribly outdated. What version do you have?? 3
> or 4?? Dump it and get Nero or Roxio (Roxio bought out Adaptec eons
> ago). I happen to use both of them, but you have to buy them.
>
> I think you are going to mess up again if you get into this ISO
> business. Just use WinME and leave that other weirdo Ubuntu stuff
> alone. You seem to have a *black cloud* over your head when it comes to
> computers, grin.
>
> Heather, wondering why in hell you need two Operating Systems on that
> old machine......
>
> "webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e164nX06HHA.4660@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > Thanks John. The problem seems to be a conflict between my Adaptec CD
> > Creator and the DeepBurner. When I get to the 'burn iso' situation, I
> > have
> > only the 'erase' button available, the 'cancel' and 'burn iso' buttons
> > are
> > grayed out.
> > I suspect that's because of 'Adaptec'.
> > I am downloading and will install and try your second offer.
> > Hoping to succeed in the end.
> >
> > Harry.
> >
> >
> > "John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> > news:eSn3jCr6HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> Another one here that should work:
> >> http://www.cdburnerxp.se/features.php
> >>
> >> If you find that these burners don't work it could be an ASPI driver
> >> problem.
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >> webster72n wrote:
> >>
> >> > Thanks for that one, John, I looked all over the internet and the
> >> > best I
> >> > could come up with was the 'FinalBurner', which will not work with
> >> > ME

> > but
> >> > W2k.
> >> > Am downloading your's now and will let you know how I made out in
> >> > the

> > end.
> >> >
> >> > Harry.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> >> > news:uGbz6dq6HHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> >
> >> >>webster72n wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>"Alias" <iamalias@shoesgmail.com.> wrote in message
> >> >>>news:%23HViFzp6HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>webster72n wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>That covers it quite well, Mike, thank you.
> >> >>>>>I will be able to figure the rest out myself on hand of your
> >> >>>
> >> >>>descriptions.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>Since I was unable to simply 'run' ubuntu under WinME, let alone
> >> >>>
> >> >>>installing
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>it,
> >> >>>>>I have decided in favor of W2k.
> >> >>>>>Thanks again.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Harry.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Do you have all your W2K drivers? If so, there really isn't any
> >> >>>>need

> > for
> >> >>>>Win Me as W2K is a far superior product.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>It's not a question of superiority, Alias. To burn an iso image
> >> >>>file
> >> >
> >> > with a
> >> >
> >> >>>free burner, I need W2k, because it will not work under ME. Once
> >> >>>W2k is
> >> >>>installed, I will be able to burn the image for the mini
> >> >>>installation

> > of
> >> >>>ubuntu to CD and, hence, finally install ubuntu on my machine. As
> >> >>>you
> >> >
> >> > can
> >> >
> >> >>>see, I haven't given up on it, just chosen a different route.
> >> >>>What is it I need to know about the W2k drivers?
> >> >>
> >> >>??? You want to install Windows 2000 just to burn an ISO image
> >> >>with
> >> >>your CD burner? Why can't you do this with Windows ME? Might be
> >> >>easier
> >> >>to try different burning software instead of installing a different
> >> >>OS.
> >> >> http://www.deepburner.com/?r=products&pr=deepburner
> >> >>
> >> >>John
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >

> >
> >

>
>
 
H

Heather

"webster72n" <webster72n@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OnO4n%2306HHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>I would prefer if you kept 'your opinion' to yourself, Heather, at
>least
> when it's negative. I happen to be 'mostly' optimistic.
> There are no problems with 'Adaptec'


I happen to be "honest"......not negative. Adaptec is so out of date,
it is pitiful. I had it on my WinME computer.....it came with it 7.5
years ago. Is that a clue?? I then put Roxio 6 on that one. Worked
way better.

But you never listen to reason and seem to love to mess up your
computer, so just keep on doing what you do best.....LOL.

HF
 
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