CD Player Questions

PCR · Sep 22, 2007

Frog wrote:
....snip
| glee wrote:
|> Comments inline.....
|> "Frog" <frog@pond.com> wrote in message
|> news:uNtgyp9%23HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
|>>
|>>> Is the CD you are trying to boot from even
|>>> bootable? Unlike their WinXP CDs, and many 'Restore' CDs with
|>>> Win98SE that comes with 'Brand Name' machines from so called OEM's
|>>> ( Dell, Siemens, Acer, Compaq, etc... ), a microsoft-issued
|>>> Win98SE CD isn't bootable.
|>
|> A RETAIL Win98SE CD is not bootable, but many OEM Win98SE CDs are.
|
| I believe my Win98SE CD is an OEM copy. The only thing on this CD is
| Win98SE, and the disk has the following printed on it:
|
| For distribution with a new PC only.

Mine is bootable (actually it is a two CD set), & both say: "For
distribution only with a Compaq PC". There is a big list of model
numbers on them too. Nowhere do I see the acronym "OEM".

| For product support, contact the
| manufacturer of your PC.
| SECOND EDITION
| (C) 1981-1999 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. Microsoft
| products are licensed to OEMs by Microsoft Licensing Inc., a wholly
| owned subsidery of Microsoft Corporation.
| 0499 Part No. X05 29232

MS is on mine holding a partial copyright, but still not the acronym
"OEM".

| I know that when I put this CD in the system, while in normal Windows
| mode, it immediately starts running. The first window is a menu of
| things you can do. Does that sound like an OEM copy?

Mine won't do that. It just spins up & is accessible to Explorer. I
believe you must have an Autorun.inf on yours, which I don't. Here is my
full root directory. I am guessing the presence of the "BOOT*" .bin's &
..klk is what makes mine bootable...

W:\>dir /a /on
Volume in drive W is I3006Q15CD0
Volume Serial Number is D0F9-CFDF
Directory of W:\

BIN <DIR> 12-07-99 6:02p BIN
BOM <DIR> 12-07-99 6:48p BOM
BOOTCAT BIN 2,048 05-15-97 4:45p BOOTCAT.BIN
BOOTSECT BIN 1,474,560 11-17-99 3:57p BOOTSECT.BIN
BOOTSECT KLK 1,474,560 10-27-99 8:24p BOOTSECT.KLK
CD INI 43 12-08-99 2:22a CD.INI
COPYTOD <DIR> 12-08-99 2:27a COPYTOD
CPQDRV <DIR> 12-08-99 2:27a CPQDRV
CPQS <DIR> 12-07-99 6:02p CPQS
DATA <DIR> 12-07-99 6:02p DATA
IMG INI 32 12-08-99 2:22a IMG.INI
LFS TXT 8 12-08-99 3:00a LFS.TXT
QRIA <DIR> 11-24-99 5:42p QRIA
6 file(s) 2,951,251 bytes
7 dir(s) 0 bytes free

....snip
--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

Frog · Sep 23, 2007

PCR,

I was going to send you a dir of my Win98SE CD, but I can't figure
out how to make this happen. Can you enlighten me on how to make this
happen? By the way, my CD device is drive D.

Also, while I am talking about things I don't know how to do, is
there some method for printing out a copy of the BIOS settings? If so,
I can't figure that one out either.

Thanks,
Frog

PCR wrote:
> Frog wrote:
> ...snip
> | glee wrote:
> |> Comments inline.....
> |> "Frog" <frog@pond.com> wrote in message
> |> news:uNtgyp9%23HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> |>>
> |>>> Is the CD you are trying to boot from even
> |>>> bootable? Unlike their WinXP CDs, and many 'Restore' CDs with
> |>>> Win98SE that comes with 'Brand Name' machines from so called OEM's
> |>>> ( Dell, Siemens, Acer, Compaq, etc... ), a microsoft-issued
> |>>> Win98SE CD isn't bootable.
> |>
> |> A RETAIL Win98SE CD is not bootable, but many OEM Win98SE CDs are.
> |
> | I believe my Win98SE CD is an OEM copy. The only thing on this CD is
> | Win98SE, and the disk has the following printed on it:
> |
> | For distribution with a new PC only.
>
> Mine is bootable (actually it is a two CD set), & both say: "For
> distribution only with a Compaq PC". There is a big list of model
> numbers on them too. Nowhere do I see the acronym "OEM".
>
> | For product support, contact the
> | manufacturer of your PC.
> | SECOND EDITION
> | (C) 1981-1999 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. Microsoft
> | products are licensed to OEMs by Microsoft Licensing Inc., a wholly
> | owned subsidery of Microsoft Corporation.
> | 0499 Part No. X05 29232
>
> MS is on mine holding a partial copyright, but still not the acronym
> "OEM".
>
> | I know that when I put this CD in the system, while in normal Windows
> | mode, it immediately starts running. The first window is a menu of
> | things you can do. Does that sound like an OEM copy?
>
> Mine won't do that. It just spins up & is accessible to Explorer. I
> believe you must have an Autorun.inf on yours, which I don't. Here is my
> full root directory. I am guessing the presence of the "BOOT*" .bin's &
> .klk is what makes mine bootable...
>
> W:\>dir /a /on
> Volume in drive W is I3006Q15CD0
> Volume Serial Number is D0F9-CFDF
> Directory of W:\
>
> BIN <DIR> 12-07-99 6:02p BIN
> BOM <DIR> 12-07-99 6:48p BOM
> BOOTCAT BIN 2,048 05-15-97 4:45p BOOTCAT.BIN
> BOOTSECT BIN 1,474,560 11-17-99 3:57p BOOTSECT.BIN
> BOOTSECT KLK 1,474,560 10-27-99 8:24p BOOTSECT.KLK
> CD INI 43 12-08-99 2:22a CD.INI
> COPYTOD <DIR> 12-08-99 2:27a COPYTOD
> CPQDRV <DIR> 12-08-99 2:27a CPQDRV
> CPQS <DIR> 12-07-99 6:02p CPQS
> DATA <DIR> 12-07-99 6:02p DATA
> IMG INI 32 12-08-99 2:22a IMG.INI
> LFS TXT 8 12-08-99 3:00a LFS.TXT
> QRIA <DIR> 11-24-99 5:42p QRIA
> 6 file(s) 2,951,251 bytes
> 7 dir(s) 0 bytes free
>
>
> ...snip

Frog · Sep 23, 2007

I decided to take most of the weekend off and away from this
computer...what an unbelievable and fatiguing process this has been for
me. I think my 30GB hard drive is working again, and that makes me very
happy...so happy, in fact, that I made a new image of my hard drive
using Image for DOS. I know that I will likely be back to this
discussion group, as I attempt to recover my data from the 120GB
external hard drive back to my internal 120GB hard drive. Make no
mistake, I will have my 30GB hard drive, the one that we have been
repairing, out of the system when I start this process. Yes, I will
make sure that it is set up as a master on the cable as is my 30GB hard
drive.

I want to end this thread with a big thank-you to you and all of
the others who responded to my call for help. You all are a great group
of people.

Frog

.... et al. wrote:
> Frog wrote:
>
>> ... et al. wrote:
>>
>>> #1) Futile exercise?
>>
>> I'm starting to think that it may be a futile exercise--I hope not,
>> though.
>
> Trying to boot from the CD you were trying to boot from, perhaps.
> Getting your working IDE Devices to work right in Win98SE and allowing
> you to configure the BIOS to allow you to boot from a CD .. i think,
> that by removing the malworking Samsung-Drive, you've accomplished that
> already.
> I'll just make a few comments, since we have glee's response.
>
> [snip]
>
>
>>> You have a CD-Drive that was removed because some person couldn't get
>>> it to work, and it is now working only intermittently for you and
>>> with disappearing IDE devices in the Win98 Device Manager depending
>>> on different BIOS settings. ¡Until you have everything else working
>>> fine, remove this device from the equation! Disconnect Data- and
>>> Power-cables from the Samsung Drive. Have only the Plextor CD-Drive,
>>> jumpered as master, as a single device on the second IDE-channel.
>>
>> I disconnected the Samsung device from the equation. The Plextor device
>> is now connected to the end connection on the ribbon cable. I then
>> entered the BIOS and designated the boot sequence to be the floppy,
>> Plextor, and then the hard drive. The computer was then restarted, and
>> no problems were noted in the Device Manager.
>
> See, this was all it took. And i think that if you try booting with a
> bootable CD now, that this should work.
>
> [snip]
>
>
>>>
>>> #3) I don't know if you took apart and rebuilt the hardware in the
>>> aftermath of its 'meltdown',
>>
>> No, I changed nothing inside of my computer except re-placing the
>> 120GB hard drive with the 30GB hard drive. Oh yes, and I added the
>> Samsung CD device back into the system--that device is again
>> disconnected from the system.
>
> [snip]
>
>
>> The Samsung CD device (not presently connected to the system) is set up
>> as Slave.
>>
>> The Plextor CD device is set up as Master.
>
> This was the important stuff. I thought there was a risk you had had
> first one CD player in the machine alone and then the other, and that
> both were still jumpered as master when you now tried to use them
> together on the same IDE channel. Fine..
>
>
>> NOTE: The 120GB hard drive that was in my computer, when I arrived home
>> from the computer store, does not display a setup plan. It is a Western
>> Digital model WD1200BB-23RDAO product. I looked at another Western
>> Digital hard drive (not the same model number), and, if both settings
>> are the same for both hard drives, it was set as Master (center two pins
>> jumpered).
>
> Glee posted a link for jumper-settings for Western Digital branded HDD.
> For the time when you put yours back in some machine, i just want to
> stress that how to jumper these differs from most other brands of HDD's
> in that there is one Jumper-setting when used as slave, and *two*
> different one when used as master. One when there is a slave-device
> present and another jumper-setting when there is no Slave-device present
> on that IDE-channel.
>
>
>>
>>> <http://www.storagereview.com/guide2000/ref/hdd/if/ide/confCS.html>
>>> <http://www.storagereview.com/guide2000/ref/hdd/if/ide/confCable80.html>
>>> <http://www.storagereview.com/guide2000/ref/hdd/if/ide/confCable.html>
>>
>> I will read these ASAP.
>
> For most of the questions you asked in your post, concerning cables,
> master and slave positions, the things that i've snipped, i suggest that
> you read the texts on the links i posted, look at the pictures there and
> compare that information with you own hardware. You will know as much
> about these things as i do.
>
> [snip]
>
>
>>
>> The HHD ST330621A is shown on the Main page as the Primary Master with
>> Type Auto. I looked up what Auto means in the motherboard book, and
>> here is what I found:
>>
>> Quote
>>
>> Type [Auto]
>> Select [Auto] to automatically detect an IDE hard disk drive. If
>> automatic detection is successful, the correct values will be filled in
>> for the remaining fields on the sub-menu. If automatic detection fails,
>> your hard disk drive may be too old or too new. You can try updating
>> your BIOS or enter the IDE hard disk drive parameters manually.
>>
>> Unquote
>>
>> The above makes me wonder if I was right in changing the Samsung Device
>> from Auto to CD-ROM on the main page. I believe it should be Auto,
>> if/when I re-install this device.
>
> I don't see why you think it *should* be Auto.
> It was only because you had problems we didn't know the cause behind
> that i also want to point out that location in the BIOS Setup as a
> variable for you to check out. (On my similar motherboard) I have it set
> to 'Auto' for all four IDE positions, so that when i change drives
> around i don't have to remember to go there and change anything.
>
> In the end all is well .. well except if you are a Samsung CD-Drive
> located in your household and have just been taken off life-support.
>
>

Galen Somerville · Sep 23, 2007

I believe Karenware.com has a utility to print directory info. Something like ptdirprn.exe

Galen

"Frog" <frog@pond.com> wrote in message news:etF%23bOk$HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> PCR,
>
> I was going to send you a dir of my Win98SE CD, but I can't figure
> out how to make this happen. Can you enlighten me on how to make this
> happen? By the way, my CD device is drive D.
>
> Also, while I am talking about things I don't know how to do, is
> there some method for printing out a copy of the BIOS settings? If so,
> I can't figure that one out either.
>
> Thanks,
> Frog
>
> PCR wrote:
> > Frog wrote:
> > ...snip
> > | glee wrote:
> > |> Comments inline.....
> > |> "Frog" <frog@pond.com> wrote in message
> > |> news:uNtgyp9%23HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > |>>
> > |>>> Is the CD you are trying to boot from even
> > |>>> bootable? Unlike their WinXP CDs, and many 'Restore' CDs with
> > |>>> Win98SE that comes with 'Brand Name' machines from so called OEM's
> > |>>> ( Dell, Siemens, Acer, Compaq, etc... ), a microsoft-issued
> > |>>> Win98SE CD isn't bootable.
> > |>
> > |> A RETAIL Win98SE CD is not bootable, but many OEM Win98SE CDs are.
> > |
> > | I believe my Win98SE CD is an OEM copy. The only thing on this CD is
> > | Win98SE, and the disk has the following printed on it:
> > |
> > | For distribution with a new PC only.
> >
> > Mine is bootable (actually it is a two CD set), & both say: "For
> > distribution only with a Compaq PC". There is a big list of model
> > numbers on them too. Nowhere do I see the acronym "OEM".
> >
> > | For product support, contact the
> > | manufacturer of your PC.
> > | SECOND EDITION
> > | (C) 1981-1999 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. Microsoft
> > | products are licensed to OEMs by Microsoft Licensing Inc., a wholly
> > | owned subsidery of Microsoft Corporation.
> > | 0499 Part No. X05 29232
> >
> > MS is on mine holding a partial copyright, but still not the acronym
> > "OEM".
> >
> > | I know that when I put this CD in the system, while in normal Windows
> > | mode, it immediately starts running. The first window is a menu of
> > | things you can do. Does that sound like an OEM copy?
> >
> > Mine won't do that. It just spins up & is accessible to Explorer. I
> > believe you must have an Autorun.inf on yours, which I don't. Here is my
> > full root directory. I am guessing the presence of the "BOOT*" .bin's &
> > .klk is what makes mine bootable...
> >
> > W:\>dir /a /on
> > Volume in drive W is I3006Q15CD0
> > Volume Serial Number is D0F9-CFDF
> > Directory of W:\
> >
> > BIN <DIR> 12-07-99 6:02p BIN
> > BOM <DIR> 12-07-99 6:48p BOM
> > BOOTCAT BIN 2,048 05-15-97 4:45p BOOTCAT.BIN
> > BOOTSECT BIN 1,474,560 11-17-99 3:57p BOOTSECT.BIN
> > BOOTSECT KLK 1,474,560 10-27-99 8:24p BOOTSECT.KLK
> > CD INI 43 12-08-99 2:22a CD.INI
> > COPYTOD <DIR> 12-08-99 2:27a COPYTOD
> > CPQDRV <DIR> 12-08-99 2:27a CPQDRV
> > CPQS <DIR> 12-07-99 6:02p CPQS
> > DATA <DIR> 12-07-99 6:02p DATA
> > IMG INI 32 12-08-99 2:22a IMG.INI
> > LFS TXT 8 12-08-99 3:00a LFS.TXT
> > QRIA <DIR> 11-24-99 5:42p QRIA
> > 6 file(s) 2,951,251 bytes
> > 7 dir(s) 0 bytes free
> >
> >
> > ...snip

glee · Sep 23, 2007

There are directory printing utilities out there....I've never used one.
Galen is referring to this freeware:
Karen's Directory Printer
http://www.karenware.com/powertools/ptdirprn.asp

I use the simpler method below.

Open an DOS window (Start> Programs> MS-DOS Prompt), and switch to the CD drive
while the disc is in the drive, then type the necessary DIR commands to export a
directory listing to a text file.

Since your CD drive is D:, let's make the text file on your Desktop (assuming the
default of C:\Windows\Desktop is what you are using).

At the command prompt, and with the CD in the drive, type the following and press
Enter after each line:

D:
DIR /a /ogn > c:\windows\desktop\dir.txt

That will give a text file with the directory listing for the root of the disc in
the drive. If you want all the sub-folders and their contents included, type this
instead:

D:
DIR /a /ogn /s > c:\windows\desktop\fulldir.txt

As for the BIOS settings, unless your BIOS setup has a specific option to print, it
is not always possible, particularly with newer USB printers that just won't work
without Windows running. I was able to get my much older parallel printer to print
my BIOS screens in an unformatted manner years ago, by pressing the PrintScreen key
on the keyboard while at each screen. Most newer printers won't be able to do that.

The simplest alternative is often to photograph each BIOS screen with a digital
camera, and save the photos as jpg files.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"Frog" <frog@pond.com> wrote in message
news:etF%23bOk$HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> PCR,
>
> I was going to send you a dir of my Win98SE CD, but I can't figure out how to
> make this happen. Can you enlighten me on how to make this happen? By the way,
> my CD device is drive D.
>
> Also, while I am talking about things I don't know how to do, is there some
> method for printing out a copy of the BIOS settings? If so, I can't figure that
> one out either.
>
> Thanks,
> Frog
>
> PCR wrote:
>> Frog wrote:
>> ...snip
>> | glee wrote:
>> |> Comments inline.....
>> |> "Frog" <frog@pond.com> wrote in message
>> |> news:uNtgyp9%23HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> |>>
>> |>>> Is the CD you are trying to boot from even
>> |>>> bootable? Unlike their WinXP CDs, and many 'Restore' CDs with
>> |>>> Win98SE that comes with 'Brand Name' machines from so called OEM's
>> |>>> ( Dell, Siemens, Acer, Compaq, etc... ), a microsoft-issued
>> |>>> Win98SE CD isn't bootable.
>> |>
>> |> A RETAIL Win98SE CD is not bootable, but many OEM Win98SE CDs are.
>> |
>> | I believe my Win98SE CD is an OEM copy. The only thing on this CD is
>> | Win98SE, and the disk has the following printed on it:
>> |
>> | For distribution with a new PC only.
>>
>> Mine is bootable (actually it is a two CD set), & both say: "For
>> distribution only with a Compaq PC". There is a big list of model
>> numbers on them too. Nowhere do I see the acronym "OEM".
>>
>> | For product support, contact the
>> | manufacturer of your PC.
>> | SECOND EDITION
>> | (C) 1981-1999 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. Microsoft
>> | products are licensed to OEMs by Microsoft Licensing Inc., a wholly
>> | owned subsidery of Microsoft Corporation.
>> | 0499 Part No. X05 29232
>>
>> MS is on mine holding a partial copyright, but still not the acronym
>> "OEM".
>>
>> | I know that when I put this CD in the system, while in normal Windows
>> | mode, it immediately starts running. The first window is a menu of
>> | things you can do. Does that sound like an OEM copy?
>>
>> Mine won't do that. It just spins up & is accessible to Explorer. I
>> believe you must have an Autorun.inf on yours, which I don't. Here is my
>> full root directory. I am guessing the presence of the "BOOT*" .bin's &
>> .klk is what makes mine bootable...
>>
>> W:\>dir /a /on
>> Volume in drive W is I3006Q15CD0
>> Volume Serial Number is D0F9-CFDF
>> Directory of W:\
>>
>> BIN <DIR> 12-07-99 6:02p BIN
>> BOM <DIR> 12-07-99 6:48p BOM
>> BOOTCAT BIN 2,048 05-15-97 4:45p BOOTCAT.BIN
>> BOOTSECT BIN 1,474,560 11-17-99 3:57p BOOTSECT.BIN
>> BOOTSECT KLK 1,474,560 10-27-99 8:24p BOOTSECT.KLK
>> CD INI 43 12-08-99 2:22a CD.INI
>> COPYTOD <DIR> 12-08-99 2:27a COPYTOD
>> CPQDRV <DIR> 12-08-99 2:27a CPQDRV
>> CPQS <DIR> 12-07-99 6:02p CPQS
>> DATA <DIR> 12-07-99 6:02p DATA
>> IMG INI 32 12-08-99 2:22a IMG.INI
>> LFS TXT 8 12-08-99 3:00a LFS.TXT
>> QRIA <DIR> 11-24-99 5:42p QRIA
>> 6 file(s) 2,951,251 bytes
>> 7 dir(s) 0 bytes free
>>
>>
>> ...snip

PCR · Sep 24, 2007

PCR · Sep 24, 2007

Frog wrote:
| I decided to take most of the weekend off and away from this
| computer...what an unbelievable and fatiguing process this has been
| for me. I think my 30GB hard drive is working again, and that makes
| me very happy...so happy, in fact, that I made a new image of my hard
| drive using Image for DOS. I know that I will likely be back to this
| discussion group, as I attempt to recover my data from the 120GB
| external hard drive back to my internal 120GB hard drive. Make no
| mistake, I will have my 30GB hard drive, the one that we have been
| repairing, out of the system when I start this process. Yes, I will
| make sure that it is set up as a master on the cable as is my 30GB
| hard drive.
|
| I want to end this thread with a big thank-you to you and all of
| the others who responded to my call for help. You all are a great
| group of people.

You are welcome. That is a good idea to preserve & protect the 30 GBer
while playing with the other! Keep us informed.

| Frog
|
|
|
| ... et al. wrote:
|> Frog wrote:
|>
|>> ... et al. wrote:
|>>
|>>> #1) Futile exercise?
|>>
|>> I'm starting to think that it may be a futile exercise--I hope not,
|>> though.
|>
|> Trying to boot from the CD you were trying to boot from, perhaps.
|> Getting your working IDE Devices to work right in Win98SE and
|> allowing you to configure the BIOS to allow you to boot from a CD ..
|> i think, that by removing the malworking Samsung-Drive, you've
|> accomplished that already.
|> I'll just make a few comments, since we have glee's response.
|>
|> [snip]
|>
|>
|>>> You have a CD-Drive that was removed because some person couldn't
|>>> get it to work, and it is now working only intermittently for you
|>>> and with disappearing IDE devices in the Win98 Device Manager
|>>> depending on different BIOS settings. ¡Until you have everything
|>>> else working fine, remove this device from the equation!
|>>> Disconnect Data- and Power-cables from the Samsung Drive. Have
|>>> only the Plextor CD-Drive, jumpered as master, as a single device
|>>> on the second IDE-channel.
|>>
|>> I disconnected the Samsung device from the equation. The Plextor
|>> device is now connected to the end connection on the ribbon cable.
|>> I then entered the BIOS and designated the boot sequence to be the
|>> floppy, Plextor, and then the hard drive. The computer was then
|>> restarted, and no problems were noted in the Device Manager.
|>
|> See, this was all it took. And i think that if you try booting with a
|> bootable CD now, that this should work.
|>
|> [snip]
|>
|>
|>>>
|>>> #3) I don't know if you took apart and rebuilt the hardware in the
|>>> aftermath of its 'meltdown',
|>>
|>> No, I changed nothing inside of my computer except re-placing the
|>> 120GB hard drive with the 30GB hard drive. Oh yes, and I added the
|>> Samsung CD device back into the system--that device is again
|>> disconnected from the system.
|>
|> [snip]
|>
|>
|>> The Samsung CD device (not presently connected to the system) is
|>> set up as Slave.
|>>
|>> The Plextor CD device is set up as Master.
|>
|> This was the important stuff. I thought there was a risk you had had
|> first one CD player in the machine alone and then the other, and that
|> both were still jumpered as master when you now tried to use them
|> together on the same IDE channel. Fine..
|>
|>
|>> NOTE: The 120GB hard drive that was in my computer, when I arrived
|>> home from the computer store, does not display a setup plan. It is
|>> a Western Digital model WD1200BB-23RDAO product. I looked at
|>> another Western Digital hard drive (not the same model number),
|>> and, if both settings are the same for both hard drives, it was set
|>> as Master (center two pins jumpered).
|>
|> Glee posted a link for jumper-settings for Western Digital branded
|> HDD. For the time when you put yours back in some machine, i just
|> want to stress that how to jumper these differs from most other
|> brands of HDD's in that there is one Jumper-setting when used as
|> slave, and *two* different one when used as master. One when there
|> is a slave-device present and another jumper-setting when there is
|> no Slave-device present on that IDE-channel.
|>
|>
|>>
|>>> <http://www.storagereview.com/guide2000/ref/hdd/if/ide/confCS.html>
|>>>
<http://www.storagereview.com/guide2000/ref/hdd/if/ide/confCable80.html>
|>>>
<http://www.storagereview.com/guide2000/ref/hdd/if/ide/confCable.html>
|>>
|>> I will read these ASAP.
|>
|> For most of the questions you asked in your post, concerning cables,
|> master and slave positions, the things that i've snipped, i suggest
|> that you read the texts on the links i posted, look at the pictures
|> there and compare that information with you own hardware. You will
|> know as much about these things as i do.
|>
|> [snip]
|>
|>
|>>
|>> The HHD ST330621A is shown on the Main page as the Primary Master
|>> with Type Auto. I looked up what Auto means in the motherboard
|>> book, and here is what I found:
|>>
|>> Quote
|>>
|>> Type [Auto]
|>> Select [Auto] to automatically detect an IDE hard disk drive. If
|>> automatic detection is successful, the correct values will be
|>> filled in for the remaining fields on the sub-menu. If automatic
|>> detection fails, your hard disk drive may be too old or too new.
|>> You can try updating your BIOS or enter the IDE hard disk drive
|>> parameters manually.
|>>
|>> Unquote
|>>
|>> The above makes me wonder if I was right in changing the Samsung
|>> Device from Auto to CD-ROM on the main page. I believe it should
|>> be Auto, if/when I re-install this device.
|>
|> I don't see why you think it *should* be Auto.
|> It was only because you had problems we didn't know the cause behind
|> that i also want to point out that location in the BIOS Setup as a
|> variable for you to check out. (On my similar motherboard) I have it
|> set to 'Auto' for all four IDE positions, so that when i change
|> drives around i don't have to remember to go there and change
|> anything.
|>
|> In the end all is well .. well except if you are a Samsung CD-Drive
|> located in your household and have just been taken off life-support.

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... et al. · Sep 25, 2007

Frog wrote:

> Also, while I am talking about things I don't know how to do, is
> there some method for printing out a copy of the BIOS settings? If so,
> I can't figure that one out either.

Useful as it would be i don't know why, by popular demand, it
isn't available for all motherboard BIOS's since this question
comes up now and again.

But we happen to be in luck using a Asustek A7Vxxx motherboards:
<http://www.a7vtroubleshooting.com/info/bios/index.htm#6a>

Unfortunately Asustek's German FTP-server is no more and i don't
know if they have [CMOS.exe] available somewhere else. So if you
want to try it you will have to find it somewhere. Here it is
from me for a little while:

found inside this file i once downloaded from 'ftp.asuscom.de':
<ftp://guest:guest@83.254.17.131/Pub/aflash214.zip> (70292 Bytes)
or already extracted:
<ftp://guest:guest@83.254.17.131/Pub/CMOS.EXE> (48195 Bytes)

Place the [CMOS.exe] file directly under 'C:\'
Boot to DOS using a Boot-floppy or by pressing [F8] during the boot.
Run the program like the next line:
C:\CMOS.exe /L BIOSDump.txt
Restart into Windows and locate the new [BIOSDump.txt] file.

The output looks like the following (there are 185 'items' in my
A7V333 BIOS):

[Signature]
Usage=CMOS.EXE
MB_Model=A7V333
Built_Date=10/29/02

[Item 1]
Item_Name=Legacy Diskette A
CMOS_Mask=00F0
Location=10
CMOS_Value=04
Range=00 - 05
Description=As the followings
Current=1.44M, 3.5 in.
00=None
01=360K , 5.25 in.
02=1.2M , 5.25 in.
03=720K , 3.5 in.
04*=1.44M, 3.5 in.
05=2.88M, 3.5 in.

[Item 2]
Item_Name=Legacy Diskette B
CMOS_Mask=000F
Location=10
CMOS_Value=00
Range=00 - 05
Description=As the followings
Current=None
00*=None
01=360K , 5.25 in.
02=1.2M , 5.25 in.
03=720K , 3.5 in.
04=1.44M, 3.5 in.
05=2.88M, 3.5 in.

.... et cetera

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