IE Crashes on this medical website?

D

Dan

MEB, was your previous arguments with the false 98 Guy? I did contact
Microsoft and they said they would contact the proper authorities and it
looks like they did because the Ethernet BAD Posts are fortunately and
thanfully removed.
 
9

98 Guy

Dan wrote:

> MEB, was your previous arguments with the false 98 Guy?


Well MEB?

You want to answer that?

> I did contact Microsoft and they said they would contact
> the proper authorities and it looks like they did because
> the Ethernet BAD Posts are fortunately and thanfully removed.


I had a brief look at the MS technet interface to this newsgroup.

Horrible. Absolutely horrible.

I can't believe how many of you people use that as a way to read and
post to this or any other MS newsgroup.
 
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Daave

98 Guy wrote:
> Note the following post that I made last december.
>
> I have been using the 6.00.2800.1586 version of Mshtml.dll ever since,
> with no issues.
>
> I spent about 5 minutes clicking around http://www.webmd.com and IE
> didn't crash or mis-behave. The answer could very well be in
> installing this entire hotfix, as described below.
>
> --------------
>
> Subject: Microsoft continues to support Windows 98 (was: ...)
> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 20:31:46 -0500
> From: 98 Guy <98@Guy.com>
> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-072.mspx

>
> For that particular bulletin, the update file for Win-2000 SP4 is
> available here:
>
>

http://download.microsoft.com/downl...a54/IE6.0sp1-KB925454-Windows2000-x86-ENU.exe
>
> If you have problems with that link, try this:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ycn965
>
> Contained within that particular file, you will find the following
> files:
>
> File Name old version date new version
>
> Cdfview.dll 6.00.2800.1612 12/07/04 6.0.2800.1896
> Danim.dll 6.03.01.0148 10/20/05 6.3.1.148
> Dxtmsft.dll 6.00.2800.1106 8/29/02 6.3.2800.1586
> Dxtrans.dll 6.00.2800.1534 2/24/06 6.3.2800.1586
> Iepeers.dll 6.00.2800.1534 2/24/06 6.0.2800.1586
> Inseng.dll 6.00.2800.1469 8/26/04 6.0.2800.1586
> Jsproxy.dll 6.00.2800.1106 8/29/02 6.0.2800.1586
> Mshtml.dll 6.00.2800.1561 6/30/06 6.0.2800.1586
> Msrating.dll 6.00.2800.1623 2/24/05 6.0.2800.1896
> Mstime.dll 6.00.2800.1537 10/23/06 6.0.2800.1586
> Pngfilt.dll 6.00.2800.1505 4/27/05 6.0.2800.1586
>
> Shdocvw.dll 6.00.2800.1815 3/21/06 6.0.2800.1896
> Shlwapi.dll 6.00.2800.1740 8/31/05 6.0.2800.1896
> Urlmon.dll 6.00.2800.1572 8/30/06 6.0.2800.1586
> Wininet.dll 6.00.2800.1534 2/24/06 6.0.2800.1586
> browseui.dll 6.00.2800.1692 6/17/05 6.00.2800.1896
>
> I am listing the updated DLL files along with the version and file
> date I currently have and the new version being provided by
> Meekro$oft.
>
> The last 5 files must be replaced under DOS (ie they can't be replaced
> while windows is running).
>
> I have replaced the above DLL's and have been able to run IE6 on my
> Win-98se system and haven't seen any problems.
>
> Some may want to un-register the old DLL's and then register the new
> versions. I simply renamed the old files and copied the new ones to
> my Win-98\system directory (that's where they all normally reside).


That's interesting!

Like others, I'm getting the same crash. And like others, I also have
the older version of MSHTML.DLL (6.00.2800.1555).

Before I click on the link above, I need to know what potential problems
exist. After all, I'm not running Windows 2000!

Also, I see that there are at least two newer versions of MSHTML.DLL:

6.0.2800.1586 (mentioned above)
6.00.2800.1598 (mentioned by lb in another post)

So where can one find 1598?
 
P

PCR

Bill in Co. wrote:
| PCR wrote:
|> Bill in Co. wrote:
|>> PCR wrote:
|>>> Bill in Co. wrote:
|>>>> I'd be more than willing to try (yet another) version of that
|>>>> mshtml.dll file (like your newer version 6.00.2800.1555), but I
|>>>> haven't been able to find it yet on the net. I have tried one
|>>>> or two others, and still have issues.
|>>>
|>>> I see that glee eventually crashed, & he has my IE & MSHTML.dll
|>>> versions. I've even gone into the symptom checker now-- it's a tad
|>>> slow, but hasn't crashed me yet. This is my 2nd time at the site.
|>>>
|>>> What shows up in the IE About box-- do you have Cumulative Security
|>>> Update for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (KB916281) there?
|>>
|>> Hell no!! LOL. Thanks, but no thanks.
|>
|> I understand.
|>
|>>> I think it would be best to go for that, instead of for a stray
|>>> MSHTML.dll. HOWEVER, here is an old post of mine that has other
|>>> alternatives, possibly first suggested by Dundat (G. Gedye)...
|>>>
|>>> the following will give you version...1173, but, weirdly,
|>>> this fix came out earlier than v...1170.
|>>>
|>>> 816506 - The removeNode() Function in a Script Call May Cause an
|>>> Access Violation in Mshtml.dll:
|>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=816506
|>>>
|>>> Version 1173 of mshtml.dll may be downloaded directly from
|>>> Microsoft at this link:
|>>>
|>>
|>
|
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=878c5cd5-0a58-40e8-
|>> a963-7496c71d1f40&DisplayLang=en
|>>>
|>>> I don't know whether those URLs still work, & obviously those seem
|>>> ancient compared to my current v.1555.
|>>
|>> Well, I'm now using version 1274 of mshtml, and it still happens.
|
| Do note that above. Happens even with version 1274.
|
|>> And I also got it to crash with versions 1170, and I believe 1106.
|>>
|>> Interestingly enough, one time, and only one time, it didn't crash
|>> (when I first tested 1170), but then it did again later on. So
|>> I'm back with the newer 1274, (although its not as new as your 1555,
|>> which I should probably look for - and test). The highest one
|>> I've found so far is 1274, but I may not have searched enough.
|>
|> Well, that's a 2,702,848 byte file, & I'm sure the number of my
|> assassins would treble were I to attach it. So...
|>
|> I am showing "Macromedia Flash Player 8" listed in Add/Remove
|> Programs. What do you see there, or in "C:\WINDOWS\Downloaded
|> Program Files"?
|
| Version 9. I'm ahead of ya. And Version 10 of Shockwave.

Looks like that isn't the problem, then.

|> Because the site does involve animations, I can think Macromedia has
|> something to do with it. It is a site involving tons of TIFs of
|> various file types too.
|
| Maybe, but I seem to be pretty up to date with both Flash and
| Shockwave.
|
|> Also, what are your settings at... "Internet Options, Security tab,
|> Internet". I am set to Medium there.
|
| Medium Low, for less nags.

That isn't the problem, then.

|> And at the "Advanced tab,
|> Multimedia section", all are checked except the first item (which is
|> the only "don't").
|
| All are checked except: "Don't display online content in the media
| bar", "Enable Automatic Image Resizing" (I didn't like that one as I
| recall), "Enable Image Toolbar", and "Show Image download
| placeholders", all of which shouldn't matter here.

I tend to agree those shouldn't matter. What about...?...

In the Browsing section, I am checked for all, EXCEPT...

(a) Automatically check for IE updates.
(b) Display a notification about every script error.
(c) Enable Install On Demand (IE).
(d) Enable Install On Demand (Other).
(e) Force offscreen compositing even under Terminal Server (requires
restart).
(f) Show friendly URLs.
(g) Use Passive FTP (for firewall & DSL modem compatibility).

| But like I say, it did load up ok one time, which seems to suggest
| it's not in there, anyways.

Maybe. Have you tried the "normal" fixes, such as emptying TIFs &...

(1) "START, Run, MSInfo32, Tools menu, IE Repair Tool"
It produces a rather large "Fix IE Log.txt" in C:\Windows. IE & E
are basically one & the same. If this crashes, an over-install of IE is
indicated.
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=194177
Description of the Internet Explorer Repair Tool

(2) Over-install IE. Try first without, but I believe it will request an
internet connection. Perhaps it is best to let it connect, actually. If
you don't care to get this fancy, just skip to step (c).

(a) Turn off interfering programs. Use http://www.pcmag.com/ 's
"StartupCop" or "EndItAll2". Or "START, Run, MSConfig, Startup tab".
Note what is unchecked, if anything. Then, go to the General tab &
disable the entire Startup Group, by clicking "Selective.." & unchecking
"Load Startup...". Reboot.

(b) Perhaps, if you haven't got EndItAll2, then "Ctrl-Alt-Del" & end
task all but Explorer & Systray. If this goes badly, start again from
top, & skip it next time.

(c) "START, Find, F/F, IE6Setup.exe". Click it in the Find window.

NOTE: If you are IE5, then it's "IE5Setup.exe". If there are more
than one (I have two each), click the one in "C:\WINDOWS\Windows
Update Setup Files" or "C:\Windows Update Setup Files", as applicable.

(d) Re-enable the Startup Group. That will automatically check all
items. Go to the Startup tab & uncheck any noted in step (a). Reboot.

(e) Perhaps go to Windows Update, to see whether it now offers
criticals.
 
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MEB

"98 Guy" <98@Guy.com> wrote in message news:47064570.ADE92E19@Guy.com...
| Dan wrote:
|
| > MEB, was your previous arguments with the false 98 Guy?
|
| Well MEB?
|
| You want to answer that?

Let's start with some information that a normal review might find [just
using this group as example]:

Re: Download manager [prior to the switch to supposed Aioe.org anonymous
mailer]
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:38:04 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.231.58.82
X-Complaints-To: abuse@aliant.net
X-Trace: ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca 1156102684 64.231.58.82 (Sun, 20 Aug 2006
16:38:04 ADT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 16:38:04 ADT
Organization: Sympatico-Subscriber
Path:
TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed.cw.net!cw.net!news-FFM2
..ecrc.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!207.35.177.252!nf3.b
ellglobal.com!ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca!53ab2750!not-for-mail

More stuff about the MSIE VML exploit
[after the switch to Aioe.org, after I posted the information concerning the
Aioe.org server/service in this group due to someone suggesting potential
files be used, posted from the anonymous mailer service]
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 22:16:50 -0400
Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server
Lines: 72
Message-ID: <45188D92.CE893068@Guy.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: NyCTGZEx/yJG3GxkwWTNiQ.user.aioe.org
Path:
TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!tornado.fastwebnet.it!itgate.net
!nntp.eutelia.it!news.panservice.it!aioe.org!emma.aioe.org!aioe.org!not-for-
mail

Re: Reg patch for U.S. Daylight Saving Time changes?
Path:
TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS01.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsf
eed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news.germany.com!news.mb-net.net!open-news
-network.org!aioe.org!not-for-mail

This post:
Path:
TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed.cw.net!cw.net!news-FFM2
..ecrc.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!club-internet.fr!feedme-smal
l.clubint.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98 U)

DOS attack tools:
Path:
TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS01.phx.gbl!newsfeed.cw.net!cw.net!news-FFM2
..ecrc.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news.karotte.org!news2.arglk
argh.de!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98 U)

Windows 98 Large file count tests ...:
Path:
TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS01.phx.gbl!news-out.cwix.com!newsfeed.cwix.
com!newscon02.news.prodigy.net!prodigy.net!news.glorb.com!aioe.org!not-for-m
ail
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98 U)

Shot in the dark:
Path:
TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS01.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-onl
ine.de!news.karotte.org!news2.arglkargh.de!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!not-for-
mail
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98 U)

Don Phillipson - where are you? ...:
Path:
TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!tornado.fastwebnet.it!tiscali!ne
wsfeed1.ip.tiscali.net!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.freen
et.de!news.osn.de!diablo1.news.osn.de!feeder.erje.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98 U)

Re: Anger management:
Path:
TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!news-out.cwix.com!newsfeed.cwix.
com!image.surnet.ru!newsfeed.rtcomm.ru!newsfeed.sovam.com!news.germany.com!a
ioe.org!not-for-mail
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98 U)

Office-VISTA firewall-Adobe Flash-other vulnerabilities -
Path:
TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS01.phx.gbl!tornado.fastwebnet.it!tiscali!ne
wsfeed1.ip.tiscali.net!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news.karotte.o
rg!news2.arglkargh.de!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98 U)

Re: Installing Windows 98
Path:
TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!tornado.fastwebnet.it!tiscali!ne
wsfeed1.ip.tiscali.net!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news.karotte.o
rg!news2.arglkargh.de!feeder.erje.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98 U)

Re: no keyboard
Path:
TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed.cw.net!cw.net!news-FFM2
..ecrc.de!news.germany.com!aioe.org!not-for-mail
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98 U)

Re: Win98 software.
Path:
TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!tornado.fastwebnet.it!tiscali!ne
wsfeed1.ip.tiscali.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-1.proxad.net!
club-internet.fr!feedme-small.clubint.net!aioe.org!not-for-mail
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98 U)

Re: Pardon 98 Guy?
Path:
TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed.
cw.net!cw.net!news-FFM2.ecrc.de!news.germany.com!aioe.org!not-for-mail
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98 U)

Re: Product key
Path:
TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS01.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-onl
ine.de!storethat.news.telefonica.de!telefonica.de!news.germany.com!aioe.org!
not-for-mail
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98 U)

Re: System is acting very strange - What do I do?
Path:
TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTFEEDS01.phx.gbl!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-onl
ine.de!news.karotte.org!news2.arglkargh.de!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!not-for-
mail
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98 U)

I'll answer in this fashion and leave that to your own decision:

From just the above and a search through Google, we could easily follow
these back to the potential posting services/newsgroups that this 98 Guy
entity uses/frequents. We could also produce enquiries to the proper parties
to track this party to their individual identity, and/or garner other
information using various public sources and/or resources and programs.

Should we be associated with an enforcement agency [or an entity such as
Microsoft] perhaps tracking illegal distribution of software, music or
otherwise from the monitoring of this party's activities via their ISP,
which could be effected in any nation presently under United Nations
agreements and which authorizes international authorities to use whatever
deemed necessary [with minor restrictions]: packet monitoring and sniffing
activities, email monitoring, and other aspects [progs or activities like:
Carnivore(1), DIRT(2), and other], can be used to collect
information/evidence necessary for potential prosecution. Moreover, this
would also provide information concerning that party's usage of activities
such as torrents, potential terrorist activities [a general excuse to
monitor and broadly defined], or other matters.
All member nations of the U.N. have these minimal agreements as part of
their acceptance. Some nations inflict even more restrictive activities
within. AND the suspect can NOT be informed of such activities by the ISP
under International enforcement Laws duing such monitoring [check the Laws
erected].
In addition, many nations have agreements among themselves regarding
software, music, and other aspects which also come under consideration.

------

If you personally wish to negate further abilities to *supposedly* use this
98 Guy entity in *false ID* then you could post, on your own, exactly who
you are and other information, and stop using the Aioe service.

However, as a registered Peoples' Counsel, I would not presently counsel in
that direction, as you apparently have engaged in illegal activity and
openly admitted such here and elsewhere [in other forums and newsgroups]. Of
course, along those same lines, if that party was supposedly not you, then
you posting your information voluntarily could supply reasonable doubt,
though there may be evidence to the contrary. As I have previously posted,
the Internet IS a network with starting and ending addresses contained
within EVERY packet. Any use leaves those traces.
Should it be deemed necessary or become necessary, I would further counsel
using a good attorney [as may be named in other nations] versed in these
types of defenses [good luck with that].

|
| > I did contact Microsoft and they said they would contact
| > the proper authorities and it looks like they did because
| > the Ethernet BAD Posts are fortunately and thanfully removed.
|
| I had a brief look at the MS technet interface to this newsgroup.
|
| Horrible. Absolutely horrible.
|
| I can't believe how many of you people use that as a way to read and
| post to this or any other MS newsgroup.

I would agree, direct posting via forum interfaces is generally a bad idea
anyway, though sometimes that is the only way or at times, when one doesn't
want to *join* a news service merely to post in that newsgroup/forum once or
twice as many require an actual traceable [directly to you] email address to
join/post [to protect themselves from potential legal issues] via email...

Then again, those who have *nothing to hide* generally have no need to use
anonymous re-mailers, filtering provides most of what they need OTOH, there
are those who lend their actual identity to the post to perhaps provide the
background necessary or to ensure that identity is not used by others ...

REFERENCED:
(1) http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/carnivore.htm
(2) http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/dirt.htm

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
________
 
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98 Guy

MEB wrote:

> | > MEB, was your previous arguments with the false 98 Guy?
> |
> | Well MEB?
> |
> | You want to answer that?
>
> I'll answer in this fashion and leave that to your own
> decision:


Ah MEB. I should know more than to ask a simple question.

> From just the above and a search through Google, we could easily
> follow these back to the potential posting services/newsgroups
> that this 98 Guy entity uses/frequents.


Yes. So?

> We could also produce enquiries to the proper parties to track
> this party to their individual identity,


Um, no you couldn't. You have no ability or right or legal recourse
to force AIOE to divulge my posting IP and then to force my ISP to
divulge my billing identity.

You nor any other reader of my usenet posts have no evidence or
material which you can show to any "authority" that would motivate
them to the degree necessary to seek court orders to obtain the
information.

> Should we be associated with an enforcement agency [or an
> entity such as Microsoft] perhaps tracking illegal distribution
> of software, music or otherwise from the monitoring of this
> party's activities via their ISP,


Should you be such an agency, you would not be reading hearsay on
usenet, but would be monitoring torrents and collecting direct
evidence.

> Carnivore(1), DIRT(2), and other], can be used to collect ...
> that party's usage of activities such as torrents, potential
> terrorist activities [a general excuse to monitor and broadly
> defined], ...


MEB - I saw you at the Al Qaeda mixer last night. I didn't want to
interrupt the conversation you were having with Adam Yahiye Gadahn and
Abdelkarim Hussein Mohamed Al-Nasser. And wasn't Ayman Al-Zawahiri
looking good! It must be all the outdoor living he does.

> you could post, on your own, exactly who you are


That would be telling.

I'm a free man.

> As I have previously posted, the Internet IS a network with
> starting and ending addresses contained within EVERY packet.
> Any use leaves those traces.


Have you ever heard of TOR?

> Should it be deemed necessary or become necessary, I would
> further counsel using a good attorney


I have Lionel Hutz on retainer.
 
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MEB

"98 Guy" <98@Guy.com> wrote in message news:4706DBD9.928E1277@Guy.com...
| MEB wrote:
|
| > | > MEB, was your previous arguments with the false 98 Guy?
| > |
| > | Well MEB?
| > |
| > | You want to answer that?
| >
| > I'll answer in this fashion and leave that to your own
| > decision:
|
| Ah MEB. I should know more than to ask a simple question.
|
| > From just the above and a search through Google, we could easily
| > follow these back to the potential posting services/newsgroups
| > that this 98 Guy entity uses/frequents.
|
| Yes. So?
|
| > We could also produce enquiries to the proper parties to track
| > this party to their individual identity,
|
| Um, no you couldn't. You have no ability or right or legal recourse
| to force AIOE to divulge my posting IP and then to force my ISP to
| divulge my billing identity.
|
| You nor any other reader of my usenet posts have no evidence or
| material which you can show to any "authority" that would motivate
| them to the degree necessary to seek court orders to obtain the
| information.

Well those aren't the only tracks or ways to access information, but what
do I care... we've already had technical, and legal discussions, ignore the
world and what has occurred, that is your um, right ...

|
| > Should we be associated with an enforcement agency [or an
| > entity such as Microsoft] perhaps tracking illegal distribution
| > of software, music or otherwise from the monitoring of this
| > party's activities via their ISP,
|
| Should you be such an agency, you would not be reading hearsay on
| usenet, but would be monitoring torrents and collecting direct
| evidence.

Hey you're the one who answered Dan, not me ....

|
| > Carnivore(1), DIRT(2), and other], can be used to collect ...
| > that party's usage of activities such as torrents, potential
| > terrorist activities [a general excuse to monitor and broadly
| > defined], ...
|
| MEB - I saw you at the Al Qaeda mixer last night. I didn't want to
| interrupt the conversation you were having with Adam Yahiye Gadahn and
| Abdelkarim Hussein Mohamed Al-Nasser. And wasn't Ayman Al-Zawahiri
| looking good! It must be all the outdoor living he does.

Aw, you said you wouldn't tell. darn... guess I'll have to inform them of
the breach, likely they won't appreciate one of their group even mentioning
such activities ..

|
| > you could post, on your own, exactly who you are
|
| That would be telling.
|
| I'm a free man.

RRRRREEAAALLy. Funny, so on what planet are you living?

|
| > As I have previously posted, the Internet IS a network with
| > starting and ending addresses contained within EVERY packet.
| > Any use leaves those traces.
|
| Have you ever heard of TOR?

I have an idea, why don't you tell me, er, the group, er, the world ...

|
| > Should it be deemed necessary or become necessary, I would
| > further counsel using a good attorney
|
| I have Lionel Hutz on retainer.

Cute. So what's your issue? If you noted, which apparently you didn't, I
posted the newest versions of files you purported as installable. Those
files were updated due to flaws and vulnerabilities... thought I'd try to
help you avoid making a fool of yourself,, but I see that was wasted effort
on my part .. you seem determined to do so.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
________
 
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Dan

Hmm, Windows 2000 is one of the few Microsoft operating systems that I have
only briefly used. Does it have any benefits that 98 Second Edition, ME, XP
Professional, XP Home, and Vista Home Premium lack?
 
J

John

> I have Lionel Hutz on retainer.

How much of a lunatic are you?
Even Homer Simpson should know more about computers better then you.

Go back to thinking of useless nonsense to bore us with.
 
J

John

> I have Lionel Hutz on retainer.

How much of a lunatic are you?
Even Homer Simpson should know more about computers better then you.

Go back to thinking of useless nonsense to bore us with.
--
"98 Guy" wrote:

> MEB wrote:
>
> > | > MEB, was your previous arguments with the false 98 Guy?
> > |
> > | Well MEB?
> > |
> > | You want to answer that?
> >
> > I'll answer in this fashion and leave that to your own
> > decision:

>
> Ah MEB. I should know more than to ask a simple question.
>
> > From just the above and a search through Google, we could easily
> > follow these back to the potential posting services/newsgroups
> > that this 98 Guy entity uses/frequents.

>
> Yes. So?
>
> > We could also produce enquiries to the proper parties to track
> > this party to their individual identity,

>
> Um, no you couldn't. You have no ability or right or legal recourse
> to force AIOE to divulge my posting IP and then to force my ISP to
> divulge my billing identity.
>
> You nor any other reader of my usenet posts have no evidence or
> material which you can show to any "authority" that would motivate
> them to the degree necessary to seek court orders to obtain the
> information.
>
> > Should we be associated with an enforcement agency [or an
> > entity such as Microsoft] perhaps tracking illegal distribution
> > of software, music or otherwise from the monitoring of this
> > party's activities via their ISP,

>
> Should you be such an agency, you would not be reading hearsay on
> usenet, but would be monitoring torrents and collecting direct
> evidence.
>
> > Carnivore(1), DIRT(2), and other], can be used to collect ...
> > that party's usage of activities such as torrents, potential
> > terrorist activities [a general excuse to monitor and broadly
> > defined], ...

>
> MEB - I saw you at the Al Qaeda mixer last night. I didn't want to
> interrupt the conversation you were having with Adam Yahiye Gadahn and
> Abdelkarim Hussein Mohamed Al-Nasser. And wasn't Ayman Al-Zawahiri
> looking good! It must be all the outdoor living he does.
>
> > you could post, on your own, exactly who you are

>
> That would be telling.
>
> I'm a free man.
>
> > As I have previously posted, the Internet IS a network with
> > starting and ending addresses contained within EVERY packet.
> > Any use leaves those traces.

>
> Have you ever heard of TOR?
>
> > Should it be deemed necessary or become necessary, I would
> > further counsel using a good attorney

>
> I have Lionel Hutz on retainer.
>
 
P

PCR

John wrote:
|> I have Lionel Hutz on retainer.
|
| How much of a lunatic are you?
| Even Homer Simpson should know more about computers better then you.
|
| Go back to thinking of useless nonsense to bore us with.

You talkin' to me?


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
R

Roxana

No... I don't believe so. I think "john" was in a bit of a hurry to post 2
cents to 98 Guy and replied in the *wrong part* of the thread. Saw "98 Guy"
and then "saw red". *ggg*

However, he would have been 'talkin' to you', "if you we're the only one
here" ("Taxi Driver"). :-D

"PCR" wrote in message news:u2BNlB3DIHA.5328@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> John wrote:
> |> I have Lionel Hutz on retainer.
> |
> | How much of a lunatic are you?
> | Even Homer Simpson should know more about computers better then you.
> |
> | Go back to thinking of useless nonsense to bore us with.
>
> You talkin' to me?
>
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
>
 
B

BD

PCR wrote:
> John wrote:
> |> I have Lionel Hutz on retainer.
> |
> | How much of a lunatic are you?
> | Even Homer Simpson should know more about computers better then you.
> |
> | Go back to thinking of useless nonsense to bore us with.
>
> You talkin' to me?
>
>

Does anyone still talk to you? <grin>
 
P

PCR

Roxana wrote:
| No... I don't believe so. I think "john" was in a bit of a hurry to
| post 2 cents to 98 Guy and replied in the *wrong part* of the thread.
| Saw "98 Guy" and then "saw red". *ggg*

Uhuh. Thanks, Roxana. I saw that a bit later-- just in time for me not
to hit him over the head with an XP-machine!

| However, he would have been 'talkin' to you', "if you we're the only
| one here" ("Taxi Driver"). :-D
|
| "PCR" wrote in message news:u2BNlB3DIHA.5328@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|> John wrote:
|> |> I have Lionel Hutz on retainer.
|> |
|> | How much of a lunatic are you?
|> | Even Homer Simpson should know more about computers better then
|> | you.
|> |
|> | Go back to thinking of useless nonsense to bore us with.
|>
|> You talkin' to me?
|>
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
P

PCR

BD wrote:
| PCR wrote:
|> John wrote:
|> |> I have Lionel Hutz on retainer.
|> |
|> | How much of a lunatic are you?
|> | Even Homer Simpson should know more about computers better then
|> | you.
|> |
|> | Go back to thinking of useless nonsense to bore us with.
|>
|> You talkin' to me?
|>
|>
| Does anyone still talk to you? <grin>

Not ghosts (not normally)-- IF you are the same one that posted the
identical question to my inbox! Has some sea monster spit you back out?


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
R

Roxana

Oh... OK. I thought that perhaps you were planning on doing a screentest for
"Taxi Driver" as the stand-in. <g>
PS - I didn't know that Travis was armed with XP.... I thought that it was
some less bulky, more cleverly concealed item. :-D

"PCR" wrote in message news:um9sbXDEIHA.3332@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Roxana wrote:
> | No... I don't believe so. I think "john" was in a bit of a hurry to
> | post 2 cents to 98 Guy and replied in the *wrong part* of the thread.
> | Saw "98 Guy" and then "saw red". *ggg*
>
> Uhuh. Thanks, Roxana. I saw that a bit later-- just in time for me not
> to hit him over the head with an XP-machine!
>
> | However, he would have been 'talkin' to you', "if you we're the only
> | one here" ("Taxi Driver"). :-D
> |
> | "PCR" wrote in message news:u2BNlB3DIHA.5328@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> |> John wrote:
> |> |> I have Lionel Hutz on retainer.
> |> |
> |> | How much of a lunatic are you?
> |> | Even Homer Simpson should know more about computers better then
> |> | you.
> |> |
> |> | Go back to thinking of useless nonsense to bore us with.
> |>
> |> You talkin' to me?
> |>
> |>
> |> --
> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
> |> Should things get worse after this,
> |> PCR
> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
>
 
B

BD

PCR wrote:
> BD wrote:
> | PCR wrote:
> |> John wrote:
> |> |> I have Lionel Hutz on retainer.
> |> |
> |> | How much of a lunatic are you?
> |> | Even Homer Simpson should know more about computers better then
> |> | you.
> |> |
> |> | Go back to thinking of useless nonsense to bore us with.
> |>
> |> You talkin' to me?
> |>
> |>
> | Does anyone still talk to you? <grin>
>
> Not ghosts (not normally)-- IF you are the same one that posted the
> identical question to my inbox! Has some sea monster spit you back out?
>
>

Not a Ghost. Your Nemesis in the flesh. Hmmmm wondered what happened
to that reply. T-Birditis. Now Back to being the "Bear in the bush"
 
D

dadiOH

Bill in Co. wrote:
> Does anybody else have problems in IE with this site? It seems
> to crash IE on my computer (but works fine in Firefox):
>
> http://www.webmd.com


Try messing with your cookie permissions.

--

dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
 
P

PCR

BD wrote:
| PCR wrote:
|> BD wrote:
|> | PCR wrote:
|> |> John wrote:
|> |> |> I have Lionel Hutz on retainer.
|> |> |
|> |> | How much of a lunatic are you?
|> |> | Even Homer Simpson should know more about computers better then
|> |> | you.
|> |> |
|> |> | Go back to thinking of useless nonsense to bore us with.
|> |>
|> |> You talkin' to me?
|> |>
|> |>
|> | Does anyone still talk to you? <grin>
|>
|> Not ghosts (not normally)-- IF you are the same one that posted the
|> identical question to my inbox! Has some sea monster spit you back
|> out?
|>
|>
| Not a Ghost. Your Nemesis in the flesh. Hmmmm wondered what happened
| to that reply. T-Birditis. Now Back to being the "Bear in the bush"

OK, we'we'welcome back, then, Dundat-- dead or alive! And never mind
I've already posted your obituary a dozen times!


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
P

PCR

Roxana wrote:
| Oh... OK. I thought that perhaps you were planning on doing a
| screentest for "Taxi Driver" as the stand-in. <g>
| PS - I didn't know that Travis was armed with XP.... I thought that
| it was some less bulky, more cleverly concealed item. :-D

I don't know anything about Travis Bickle! Ach, wait a minute...!...
http://www.msu.edu/user/svoboda1/taxi_driver/sounds.html
Taxi Driver Sounds

Is that where it all started? Or wasn't it in a gangster movie?

| "PCR" wrote in message news:um9sbXDEIHA.3332@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
|> Roxana wrote:
|> | No... I don't believe so. I think "john" was in a bit of a hurry to
|> | post 2 cents to 98 Guy and replied in the *wrong part* of the
|> | thread. Saw "98 Guy" and then "saw red". *ggg*
|>
|> Uhuh. Thanks, Roxana. I saw that a bit later-- just in time for me
|> not to hit him over the head with an XP-machine!
|>
|> | However, he would have been 'talkin' to you', "if you we're the
|> | only one here" ("Taxi Driver"). :-D
|> |
|> | "PCR" wrote in message
|> | news:u2BNlB3DIHA.5328@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|> |> John wrote:
|> |> |> I have Lionel Hutz on retainer.
|> |> |
|> |> | How much of a lunatic are you?
|> |> | Even Homer Simpson should know more about computers better then
|> |> | you.
|> |> |
|> |> | Go back to thinking of useless nonsense to bore us with.
|> |>
|> |> You talkin' to me?
|> |>
|> |>
|> |> --
|> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> |> Should things get worse after this,
|> |> PCR
|> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
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