Its New!!

I

Ian

Vista is comparatively new. We must give it a go and try not to constantly
compare it with what went before. Microsoft said that it would run lots of
maintenance programs in the background. One because people want to get on
with other computing tasks while carrying out mundane maintenance, but
perhaps more importantly, because MS knew so many people would never carry
these tasks out, if left to their own devices. Updates are one such task.
Updates are important because they block holes that virus makers have found.



--
Ian......uk
 
A

Alias

Ian wrote:
> Vista is comparatively new. We must give it a go and try not to
> constantly compare it with what went before. Microsoft said that it
> would run lots of maintenance programs in the background. One because
> people want to get on with other computing tasks while carrying out
> mundane maintenance, but perhaps more importantly, because MS knew so
> many people would never carry these tasks out, if left to their own
> devices. Updates are one such task. Updates are important because they
> block holes that virus makers have found.
>
>
>


So, how did your updates for .NET go?

Feel more secure now?

Alias
 
I

Ian

Explain Net ?


"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
news:uAPHBYHxHHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Ian wrote:
>> Vista is comparatively new. We must give it a go and try not to
>> constantly compare it with what went before. Microsoft said that it would
>> run lots of maintenance programs in the background. One because people
>> want to get on with other computing tasks while carrying out mundane
>> maintenance, but perhaps more importantly, because MS knew so many people
>> would never carry these tasks out, if left to their own devices. Updates
>> are one such task. Updates are important because they block holes that
>> virus makers have found.
>>
>>
>>

>
> So, how did your updates for .NET go?
>
> Feel more secure now?
>
> Alias
>
 
A

Alias

Ian wrote:
> Explain Net ?
>
>
> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
> news:uAPHBYHxHHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Ian wrote:
>>> Vista is comparatively new. We must give it a go and try not to
>>> constantly compare it with what went before. Microsoft said that it
>>> would run lots of maintenance programs in the background. One because
>>> people want to get on with other computing tasks while carrying out
>>> mundane maintenance, but perhaps more importantly, because MS knew so
>>> many people would never carry these tasks out, if left to their own
>>> devices. Updates are one such task. Updates are important because
>>> they block holes that virus makers have found.
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>> So, how did your updates for .NET go?
>>
>> Feel more secure now?
>>
>> Alias
>>

>


Full name: .NET Framework. It's from Microsoft and is used for some ATI
cards and other programs. Go to Windows Update and you will see them listed.

Alias
 
B

Bill Yanaire

So how did your Ubuntu updates go? There are lots of them also


"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
news:uAPHBYHxHHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Ian wrote:
>> Vista is comparatively new. We must give it a go and try not to
>> constantly compare it with what went before. Microsoft said that it would
>> run lots of maintenance programs in the background. One because people
>> want to get on with other computing tasks while carrying out mundane
>> maintenance, but perhaps more importantly, because MS knew so many people
>> would never carry these tasks out, if left to their own devices. Updates
>> are one such task. Updates are important because they block holes that
>> virus makers have found.
>>
>>
>>

>
> So, how did your updates for .NET go?
>
> Feel more secure now?
>
> Alias
 
B

Bill Yanaire

Maybe you should stick to Ubuntu

A "snippit" from wikipeda:

The Microsoft .NET Framework is a software component that can be added to or
is included with the Microsoft Windows operating system. It provides a large
body of pre-coded solutions to common program requirements, and manages the
execution of programs written specifically for the framework. The .NET
Framework is a key Microsoft offering, and is intended to be used by most
new applications created for the Windows platform.

The pre-coded solutions that form the framework's class library cover a
large range of programming needs in areas including: user interface, data
access, database connectivity, cryptography, web application development,
numeric algorithms, and network communications. The functions of the class
library are used by programmers who combine them with their own code to
produce applications.

Programs written for the .NET Framework execute in a software environment
that manages the program's runtime requirements. This runtime environment,
which is also a part of the .NET Framework, is known as the Common Language
Runtime (CLR). The CLR provides the appearance of an application virtual
machine, so that programmers need not consider the capabilities of the
specific CPU that will execute the program. The CLR also provides other
important services such as security mechanisms, memory management, and
exception handling. The class library and the CLR together compose the .NET
Framework. The framework is intended to make it easier to develop computer
applications and to reduce the vulnerability of applications and computers
to security threats.

First released in 2002, it is included with Windows XP SP2, Windows Server
2003 and Windows Vista, and can be installed on most older versions of
Windows.


"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
news:eWRvUIIxHHA.1776@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Ian wrote:
>> Explain Net ?
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>> news:uAPHBYHxHHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Ian wrote:
>>>> Vista is comparatively new. We must give it a go and try not to
>>>> constantly compare it with what went before. Microsoft said that it
>>>> would run lots of maintenance programs in the background. One because
>>>> people want to get on with other computing tasks while carrying out
>>>> mundane maintenance, but perhaps more importantly, because MS knew so
>>>> many people would never carry these tasks out, if left to their own
>>>> devices. Updates are one such task. Updates are important because they
>>>> block holes that virus makers have found.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> So, how did your updates for .NET go?
>>>
>>> Feel more secure now?
>>>
>>> Alias
>>>

>>

>
> Full name: .NET Framework. It's from Microsoft and is used for some ATI
> cards and other programs. Go to Windows Update and you will see them
> listed.
>
> Alias
 
D

DanS

"Ian" <igb123@talktalk.net> wrote in
news:0B6A365B-86C3-44D2-BBE7-9BE8F7AFA2CF@microsoft.com:

> Explain Net ?


It's *another* set of programming libraries from MS in an attempt to unify
their API libraries for different programming languages.

It's too bad that it adds yet *another* s/w layer that programs need to go
through to do things.

Another s/w layer == slower computing.

It's also sad that applications written using the newer versions of the
framework are not backwards compatible with the older versions of .Net.

IMO, .Net shouldn't be used for simple desktop applications, it's real use
is for network applications.

The other drawback is that while it may be easier to use, this also means
that it gives low-skilled programmers the tools to write .Net applications
poorly.
 
F

Frank

Alias wrote:

> Ian wrote:
>
>> Explain Net ?
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>> news:uAPHBYHxHHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> Ian wrote:
>>>
>>>> Vista is comparatively new. We must give it a go and try not to
>>>> constantly compare it with what went before. Microsoft said that it
>>>> would run lots of maintenance programs in the background. One
>>>> because people want to get on with other computing tasks while
>>>> carrying out mundane maintenance, but perhaps more importantly,
>>>> because MS knew so many people would never carry these tasks out, if
>>>> left to their own devices. Updates are one such task. Updates are
>>>> important because they block holes that virus makers have found.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> So, how did your updates for .NET go?
>>>
>>> Feel more secure now?
>>>
>>> Alias
>>>

>>

>
> Full name: .NET Framework. It's from Microsoft and is used for some ATI
> cards and other programs. Go to Windows Update and you will see them
> listed.
>
> Alias


So what is your problem? You don't have nor can you afford Vista so why
are you posting about .net and why are you even here.
Get lost, you're not need or wanted.
Frank
 
A

Alias

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Ian wrote:
>>
>>> Explain Net ?
>>>
>>>
>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>>> news:uAPHBYHxHHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>> Ian wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Vista is comparatively new. We must give it a go and try not to
>>>>> constantly compare it with what went before. Microsoft said that it
>>>>> would run lots of maintenance programs in the background. One
>>>>> because people want to get on with other computing tasks while
>>>>> carrying out mundane maintenance, but perhaps more importantly,
>>>>> because MS knew so many people would never carry these tasks out,
>>>>> if left to their own devices. Updates are one such task. Updates
>>>>> are important because they block holes that virus makers have found.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, how did your updates for .NET go?
>>>>
>>>> Feel more secure now?
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>

>>
>> Full name: .NET Framework. It's from Microsoft and is used for some
>> ATI cards and other programs. Go to Windows Update and you will see
>> them listed.
>>
>> Alias

>
> So what is your problem? You don't have nor can you afford Vista so why
> are you posting about .net and why are you even here.
> Get lost, you're not need or wanted.
> Frank


Update your .NET Framework and then, maybe, you'll understand.

Alias
 
A

Alias

Bill Yanaire wrote:
> So how did your Ubuntu updates go? There are lots of them also


Unlike Windows Updates, which I wait at least a week to install to make
sure there aren't any problems, I have never, ever, had one single
problem with Ubuntu updates and very rarely need to reboot after
downloading and installing them.

Alias
>
>
> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
> news:uAPHBYHxHHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Ian wrote:
>>> Vista is comparatively new. We must give it a go and try not to
>>> constantly compare it with what went before. Microsoft said that it would
>>> run lots of maintenance programs in the background. One because people
>>> want to get on with other computing tasks while carrying out mundane
>>> maintenance, but perhaps more importantly, because MS knew so many people
>>> would never carry these tasks out, if left to their own devices. Updates
>>> are one such task. Updates are important because they block holes that
>>> virus makers have found.
>>>
>>>
>>>

>> So, how did your updates for .NET go?
>>
>> Feel more secure now?
>>
>> Alias

>
>
 
B

Bill Yanaire

I don't have problems after installing Windows updates and yes sometimes a
reboot is necessary, but Windows OS are much more complicated than Linux
solutions.


"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
news:eLqgTOJxHHA.4800@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>> So how did your Ubuntu updates go? There are lots of them also

>
> Unlike Windows Updates, which I wait at least a week to install to make
> sure there aren't any problems, I have never, ever, had one single problem
> with Ubuntu updates and very rarely need to reboot after downloading and
> installing them.
>
> Alias
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>> news:uAPHBYHxHHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Ian wrote:
>>>> Vista is comparatively new. We must give it a go and try not to
>>>> constantly compare it with what went before. Microsoft said that it
>>>> would run lots of maintenance programs in the background. One because
>>>> people want to get on with other computing tasks while carrying out
>>>> mundane maintenance, but perhaps more importantly, because MS knew so
>>>> many people would never carry these tasks out, if left to their own
>>>> devices. Updates are one such task. Updates are important because they
>>>> block holes that virus makers have found.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> So, how did your updates for .NET go?
>>>
>>> Feel more secure now?
>>>
>>> Alias

>>
 
A

Alias

Frank wrote:

> Get lost, you're not need or wanted.


Skip ...

> Get lost, you're not need or wanted.


Skip ...

> Get lost, you're not need or wanted.


Skip ...

> Get lost, you're not need or wanted.


Skip ...

> Get lost, you're not need or wanted.


Skip ...

> Get lost, you're not need or wanted.


Skip ...

> Get lost, you're not need or wanted.


Skip ...

> Get lost, you're not need or wanted.


Skip ...
 
A

Alias

Bill Yanaire wrote:
> I don't have problems after installing Windows updates and yes sometimes a
> reboot is necessary, but Windows OS are much more complicated than Linux
> solutions.


So, hurry up and go download and install the .NET Framework updates and
then post back about how wonderful your experience was. Do you have the
balls? In Windows, "complicated" really means "bloated".

Alias
>
>
> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
> news:eLqgTOJxHHA.4800@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>> So how did your Ubuntu updates go? There are lots of them also

>> Unlike Windows Updates, which I wait at least a week to install to make
>> sure there aren't any problems, I have never, ever, had one single problem
>> with Ubuntu updates and very rarely need to reboot after downloading and
>> installing them.
>>
>> Alias
>>>
>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>>> news:uAPHBYHxHHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Ian wrote:
>>>>> Vista is comparatively new. We must give it a go and try not to
>>>>> constantly compare it with what went before. Microsoft said that it
>>>>> would run lots of maintenance programs in the background. One because
>>>>> people want to get on with other computing tasks while carrying out
>>>>> mundane maintenance, but perhaps more importantly, because MS knew so
>>>>> many people would never carry these tasks out, if left to their own
>>>>> devices. Updates are one such task. Updates are important because they
>>>>> block holes that virus makers have found.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> So, how did your updates for .NET go?
>>>>
>>>> Feel more secure now?
>>>>
>>>> Alias

>
 
F

Frank

Alias wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Ian wrote:
>>>
>>>> Explain Net ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>>>> news:uAPHBYHxHHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>> Ian wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Vista is comparatively new. We must give it a go and try not to
>>>>>> constantly compare it with what went before. Microsoft said that
>>>>>> it would run lots of maintenance programs in the background. One
>>>>>> because people want to get on with other computing tasks while
>>>>>> carrying out mundane maintenance, but perhaps more importantly,
>>>>>> because MS knew so many people would never carry these tasks out,
>>>>>> if left to their own devices. Updates are one such task. Updates
>>>>>> are important because they block holes that virus makers have found.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So, how did your updates for .NET go?
>>>>>
>>>>> Feel more secure now?
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Full name: .NET Framework. It's from Microsoft and is used for some
>>> ATI cards and other programs. Go to Windows Update and you will see
>>> them listed.
>>>
>>> Alias

>>
>>
>> So what is your problem? You don't have nor can you afford Vista so
>> why are you posting about .net and why are you even here.
>> Get lost, you're not need or wanted.
>> Frank

>
>
> Update your .NET Framework and then, maybe, you'll understand.
>
> Alias


Obviously, you have no idea what you're talking about.
..net updated just fine.
Did that irritate your little linux loser arse...lol!
Frank
 
P

PvdG42

"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
news:OpJsfUJxHHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>> I don't have problems after installing Windows updates and yes sometimes
>> a reboot is necessary, but Windows OS are much more complicated than
>> Linux solutions.

>
> So, hurry up and go download and install the .NET Framework updates and
> then post back about how wonderful your experience was. Do you have the
> balls? In Windows, "complicated" really means "bloated".
>
> Alias


I realize I'm just asking for it, asking you a question, but here goes...

What, exactly, are you referring to when you mention installing the .NET
Framework updates?
As I've updated several PC's here and am not experiencing issues, either
with completed apps or ongoing development, what is this "wonderful
experience"?
 
F

Frank

Alias wrote:

>
> Unlike Windows Updates, which I wait at least a week to install to make
> sure there aren't any problems,


Liar...
I have never, ever, had one single
> problem with Ubuntu updates


Liar...

and very rarely need to reboot after
> downloading and installing them.


Biggest lie of all!
Hey little man. stop the lying, ok?
Frank
 
B

Bill Yanaire

Since I make my living using Microsoft products, downloading and installing
the latest and greatest .NET Framework updates helps keep me employed. Yes,
there is lots of bloat, that's why we need Dual Core and Quad Core
processors to run the bloated software. But since my paycheck depends on
the bloatware, I'll keep using it. Ubuntu will continue to stay in the
drawer.


"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
news:OpJsfUJxHHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>> I don't have problems after installing Windows updates and yes sometimes
>> a reboot is necessary, but Windows OS are much more complicated than
>> Linux solutions.

>
> So, hurry up and go download and install the .NET Framework updates and
> then post back about how wonderful your experience was. Do you have the
> balls? In Windows, "complicated" really means "bloated".
>
> Alias
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>> news:eLqgTOJxHHA.4800@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>>> So how did your Ubuntu updates go? There are lots of them also
>>> Unlike Windows Updates, which I wait at least a week to install to make
>>> sure there aren't any problems, I have never, ever, had one single
>>> problem with Ubuntu updates and very rarely need to reboot after
>>> downloading and installing them.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>>>> news:uAPHBYHxHHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Ian wrote:
>>>>>> Vista is comparatively new. We must give it a go and try not to
>>>>>> constantly compare it with what went before. Microsoft said that it
>>>>>> would run lots of maintenance programs in the background. One because
>>>>>> people want to get on with other computing tasks while carrying out
>>>>>> mundane maintenance, but perhaps more importantly, because MS knew so
>>>>>> many people would never carry these tasks out, if left to their own
>>>>>> devices. Updates are one such task. Updates are important because
>>>>>> they block holes that virus makers have found.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> So, how did your updates for .NET go?
>>>>>
>>>>> Feel more secure now?
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias

>>
 
A

Alias

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ian wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Explain Net ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uAPHBYHxHHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ian wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Vista is comparatively new. We must give it a go and try not to
>>>>>>> constantly compare it with what went before. Microsoft said that
>>>>>>> it would run lots of maintenance programs in the background. One
>>>>>>> because people want to get on with other computing tasks while
>>>>>>> carrying out mundane maintenance, but perhaps more importantly,
>>>>>>> because MS knew so many people would never carry these tasks out,
>>>>>>> if left to their own devices. Updates are one such task. Updates
>>>>>>> are important because they block holes that virus makers have found.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, how did your updates for .NET go?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Feel more secure now?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Full name: .NET Framework. It's from Microsoft and is used for some
>>>> ATI cards and other programs. Go to Windows Update and you will see
>>>> them listed.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>>
>>> So what is your problem? You don't have nor can you afford Vista so
>>> why are you posting about .net and why are you even here.
>>> Get lost, you're not need or wanted.
>>> Frank

>>
>>
>> Update your .NET Framework and then, maybe, you'll understand.
>>
>> Alias

>
> Obviously, you have no idea what you're talking about.
> .net updated just fine.
> Did that irritate your little linux loser arse...lol!
> Frank


You lie, as usual. .NET doesn't update for *anyone* just fine.

Alias
 
A

Alias

PvdG42 wrote:
>
> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
> news:OpJsfUJxHHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>> I don't have problems after installing Windows updates and yes
>>> sometimes a reboot is necessary, but Windows OS are much more
>>> complicated than Linux solutions.

>>
>> So, hurry up and go download and install the .NET Framework updates
>> and then post back about how wonderful your experience was. Do you
>> have the balls? In Windows, "complicated" really means "bloated".
>>
>> Alias

>
> I realize I'm just asking for it, asking you a question, but here goes...
>
> What, exactly, are you referring to when you mention installing the .NET
> Framework updates?
> As I've updated several PC's here and am not experiencing issues, either
> with completed apps or ongoing development, what is this "wonderful
> experience"?
>


Visit microsoft.public.windowsupdate

Alias
 
A

Alias

Bill Yanaire wrote:
> Since I make my living using Microsoft products, downloading and installing
> the latest and greatest .NET Framework updates helps keep me employed. Yes,
> there is lots of bloat, that's why we need Dual Core and Quad Core
> processors to run the bloated software. But since my paycheck depends on
> the bloatware, I'll keep using it. Ubuntu will continue to stay in the
> drawer.


Oh, so you prefer Windows due to its inherent need to be repaired often
and you need to make money off the hapless people who were fooled into
buying Windows. Now I understand.

Alias
>
>
> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
> news:OpJsfUJxHHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>> I don't have problems after installing Windows updates and yes sometimes
>>> a reboot is necessary, but Windows OS are much more complicated than
>>> Linux solutions.

>> So, hurry up and go download and install the .NET Framework updates and
>> then post back about how wonderful your experience was. Do you have the
>> balls? In Windows, "complicated" really means "bloated".
>>
>> Alias
>>>
>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>>> news:eLqgTOJxHHA.4800@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>>>> So how did your Ubuntu updates go? There are lots of them also
>>>> Unlike Windows Updates, which I wait at least a week to install to make
>>>> sure there aren't any problems, I have never, ever, had one single
>>>> problem with Ubuntu updates and very rarely need to reboot after
>>>> downloading and installing them.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uAPHBYHxHHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Ian wrote:
>>>>>>> Vista is comparatively new. We must give it a go and try not to
>>>>>>> constantly compare it with what went before. Microsoft said that it
>>>>>>> would run lots of maintenance programs in the background. One because
>>>>>>> people want to get on with other computing tasks while carrying out
>>>>>>> mundane maintenance, but perhaps more importantly, because MS knew so
>>>>>>> many people would never carry these tasks out, if left to their own
>>>>>>> devices. Updates are one such task. Updates are important because
>>>>>>> they block holes that virus makers have found.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, how did your updates for .NET go?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Feel more secure now?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alias

>
>
 

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