Slightly OT, but need help with MS Word on Win98!

[Robert A. Macy]

On Oct 15, 1:44 pm, "Jeff Richards" <JRicha...@msn.com.au> wrote:
> Autoformat or templates have nothing to do with your problem. You can't get
> to the 'other' side of the line because WORD is placing it beyond the end of
> the page. If you can't locate the character that is creating it, look in
> the header or footer to see if it's being created there.
> --
> Jeff Richards
> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
> "Robert A. Macy" <m...@california.com> wrote in messagenews:1192478077.962597.178950@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Oct 15, 2:08 am, "Jeff Richards" <JRicha...@msn.com.au> wrote:
> >> What happens if you remove the last character only?
>
> >> WORD associates a lot of format information with the paragraph marker,
> >> which
> >> is an invisible character immediately following the last character in a
> >> paragraph. If you delete the last character and the invisible character
> >> following it, then much of the paragraph formatting disappears.
> >> --
> >> Jeff Richards
> >> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
> >> "Robert A. Macy" <m...@california.com> wrote in
> >> messagenews:1192398510.266260.13060@v29g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > On Oct 10, 1:53 pm, "Jeff Richards" <JRicha...@msn.com.au> wrote:
> >> >> Find a page with the line on it. If there are multiple pages with
> >> >> lines,
> >> >> choose one where the line first appears.
>
> >> >> Insert page breaks in front of each line of text on the page, from the
> >> >> bottom up. After inserting one of the breaks the line will move to
> >> >> the
> >> >> next
> >> >> page and will disappear from the current page. That line will contain
> >> >> the
> >> >> footnote reference. Examine the line closely to see where it is. If
> >> >> necessary, turn on all options (Tools / Options / View) to see it.
> >> >> Once
> >> >> identified, the others should be easier to find.
>
> >> >> A hex editor is no use. As a last resort you can export the text to a
> >> >> text
> >> >> file and paste it back in, but that destroys your formatting. You
> >> >> won't
> >> >> find ^e and ^f because the footnote is empty. Saving the file as
> >> >> WordPad
> >> >> and then importing it may work, if WordPad doesn't support footnotes.
> >> >> --
> >> >> Jeff Richards
> >> >> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
>
> >> > Jeff,
>
> >> > Thank you for your reply. You're right about the hex editor's
> >> > effectiveness. To expedite, I copied the whole, now 110 pages, into a
> >> > sacrificial copy and removed all but the last page. The line
> >> > remained. I tried removing one text line at a time, until I was down
> >> > to the last text line. The drawn in line was still there. I then
> >> > removed every character in the text line and only when I removed the
> >> > last character, no idea because there was no space, or ability to go
> >> > passed that remaining character. Only when the last del stroke
> >> > removed something, did the line disappear.
>
> >> > I think you're right. It must be some kind of footnote, but still how
> >> > to get rid of it without deleting all the text?
>
> >> > Robert- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Jeff,
>
> > Thank you for your reply.
>
> > This is a real problem since the line is already here, so changing
> > autoformat is too late, like shutting doors after animals escaping,
> > etc
>
> > Oddly, in the normal way I use Word the display type is called
> > something else, and the view mode called 'normal' by Word is VERY
> > abnormal, containing many, many [normally] unseen characters.
>
> > Perhaps, one of the other view modes will work. I know 'normal' mode
> > did not show anything to delete, it does show page breaks etc.
>
> > Problem is that I can't get to the 'other' side of the line to delete
> > it. Everytime I try to delete the line when there is no text line
> > after this displayed line, it won't. Instead, Word's delete function
> > starts backspacing in its deleting process.
>
> > Maybe try each 'view' mode will show something.
>
> > But must tell you, this 'added' feature is NO feature and very
> > irritating.
>
> > Robert- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thank you both for your replies, however...

First the ability to delete the displayed line. *IF* the display line
is after the cursor [the last line of the document], I can't delete
it. If I shift-down arrow and delete, the delete acts like a
backspace and walks back up the document, but leaves the display line
intact. If I shift-down arrow and right click, I get a menu of cut,
copy, paste etc, upon selecting cut, again the delete is like a
backspace and the display line is left intact.

There is no header, nor footer. Going to view, 'header footer' I can
see both are blank. If I have ONE character left, the display line
stays.

Try yourself. Open Word. Place a series of dashes across the page
until it wordwraps, back up then hit enter to terminate the line. The
line is magically changed by Word from a series of dashes to a solid
line below where the text line was and now cannot be removed.

If you put the dashes in the middle of blank text lines, you'll easily
remove the display line. If you put the dashes as the last text line,
you'll not be able to get rid of it.

Any ideas?

Robert

 

[MEB]

"Robert A. Macy" <macy@california.com> wrote in message
news:1192499014.763187.233850@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
| On Oct 15, 1:44 pm, "Jeff Richards" <JRicha...@msn.com.au> wrote:
| > Autoformat or templates have nothing to do with your problem. You can't
get
| > to the 'other' side of the line because WORD is placing it beyond the
end of
| > the page. If you can't locate the character that is creating it, look
in
| > the header or footer to see if it's being created there.
| > --
| > Jeff Richards
| > MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
| > "Robert A. Macy" <m...@california.com> wrote in
messagenews:1192478077.962597.178950@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
| >
| >
| >
| > > On Oct 15, 2:08 am, "Jeff Richards" <JRicha...@msn.com.au> wrote:
| > >> What happens if you remove the last character only?
| >
| > >> WORD associates a lot of format information with the paragraph
marker,
| > >> which
| > >> is an invisible character immediately following the last character in
a
| > >> paragraph. If you delete the last character and the invisible
character
| > >> following it, then much of the paragraph formatting disappears.
| > >> --
| > >> Jeff Richards
| > >> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
| > >> "Robert A. Macy" <m...@california.com> wrote in
| > >> messagenews:1192398510.266260.13060@v29g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
| >
| > >> > On Oct 10, 1:53 pm, "Jeff Richards" <JRicha...@msn.com.au> wrote:
| > >> >> Find a page with the line on it. If there are multiple pages with
| > >> >> lines,
| > >> >> choose one where the line first appears.
| >
| > >> >> Insert page breaks in front of each line of text on the page, from
the
| > >> >> bottom up. After inserting one of the breaks the line will move
to
| > >> >> the
| > >> >> next
| > >> >> page and will disappear from the current page. That line will
contain
| > >> >> the
| > >> >> footnote reference. Examine the line closely to see where it is.
If
| > >> >> necessary, turn on all options (Tools / Options / View) to see it.
| > >> >> Once
| > >> >> identified, the others should be easier to find.
| >
| > >> >> A hex editor is no use. As a last resort you can export the text
to a
| > >> >> text
| > >> >> file and paste it back in, but that destroys your formatting. You
| > >> >> won't
| > >> >> find ^e and ^f because the footnote is empty. Saving the file as
| > >> >> WordPad
| > >> >> and then importing it may work, if WordPad doesn't support
footnotes.
| > >> >> --
| > >> >> Jeff Richards
| > >> >> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
| >
| > >> > Jeff,
| >
| > >> > Thank you for your reply. You're right about the hex editor's
| > >> > effectiveness. To expedite, I copied the whole, now 110 pages,
into a
| > >> > sacrificial copy and removed all but the last page. The line
| > >> > remained. I tried removing one text line at a time, until I was
down
| > >> > to the last text line. The drawn in line was still there. I then
| > >> > removed every character in the text line and only when I removed
the
| > >> > last character, no idea because there was no space, or ability to
go
| > >> > passed that remaining character. Only when the last del stroke
| > >> > removed something, did the line disappear.
| >
| > >> > I think you're right. It must be some kind of footnote, but still
how
| > >> > to get rid of it without deleting all the text?
| >
| > >> > Robert- Hide quoted text -
| >
| > >> - Show quoted text -
| >
| > > Jeff,
| >
| > > Thank you for your reply.
| >
| > > This is a real problem since the line is already here, so changing
| > > autoformat is too late, like shutting doors after animals escaping,
| > > etc
| >
| > > Oddly, in the normal way I use Word the display type is called
| > > something else, and the view mode called 'normal' by Word is VERY
| > > abnormal, containing many, many [normally] unseen characters.
| >
| > > Perhaps, one of the other view modes will work. I know 'normal' mode
| > > did not show anything to delete, it does show page breaks etc.
| >
| > > Problem is that I can't get to the 'other' side of the line to delete
| > > it. Everytime I try to delete the line when there is no text line
| > > after this displayed line, it won't. Instead, Word's delete function
| > > starts backspacing in its deleting process.
| >
| > > Maybe try each 'view' mode will show something.
| >
| > > But must tell you, this 'added' feature is NO feature and very
| > > irritating.
| >
| > > Robert- Hide quoted text -
| >
| > - Show quoted text -
|
| Thank you both for your replies, however...
|
| First the ability to delete the displayed line. *IF* the display line
| is after the cursor [the last line of the document], I can't delete
| it. If I shift-down arrow and delete, the delete acts like a
| backspace and walks back up the document, but leaves the display line
| intact. If I shift-down arrow and right click, I get a menu of cut,
| copy, paste etc, upon selecting cut, again the delete is like a
| backspace and the display line is left intact.
|
| There is no header, nor footer. Going to view, 'header footer' I can
| see both are blank. If I have ONE character left, the display line
| stays.
|
| Try yourself. Open Word. Place a series of dashes across the page
| until it wordwraps, back up then hit enter to terminate the line. The
| line is magically changed by Word from a series of dashes to a solid
| line below where the text line was and now cannot be removed.

Actually I did test it prior to posting. In fact I checked several
different scenarios including NOT ending at the end of the line, leaving
extra on a second line. That also changed to the solid line, but could be
removed.

Might want to check whether the doc is read-only or *protected* [check
Protect Document] and page properties.

|
| If you put the dashes in the middle of blank text lines, you'll easily
| remove the display line. If you put the dashes as the last text line,
| you'll not be able to get rid of it.
|
| Any ideas?
|
| Robert
|


--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
________

 

[Jeff Richards]

If that's the sort of line it is, then you should be able to put the cursor
at the start, select Format / Borders and Shading and select None.

If it might simply be formatting, use Format / Reveal Formatting to see what
it might be. But with formatting there should be no problem in moving the
cursor beyond the formatted area.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Robert A. Macy" <macy@california.com> wrote in message
news:1192499014.763187.233850@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 15, 1:44 pm, "Jeff Richards" <JRicha...@msn.com.au> wrote:
>> Autoformat or templates have nothing to do with your problem. You can't
>> get
>> to the 'other' side of the line because WORD is placing it beyond the end
>> of
>> the page. If you can't locate the character that is creating it, look in
>> the header or footer to see if it's being created there.
>> --
>> Jeff Richards
>> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
>> "Robert A. Macy" <m...@california.com> wrote in
>> messagenews:1192478077.962597.178950@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Oct 15, 2:08 am, "Jeff Richards" <JRicha...@msn.com.au> wrote:
>> >> What happens if you remove the last character only?
>>
>> >> WORD associates a lot of format information with the paragraph marker,
>> >> which
>> >> is an invisible character immediately following the last character in
>> >> a
>> >> paragraph. If you delete the last character and the invisible
>> >> character
>> >> following it, then much of the paragraph formatting disappears.
>> >> --
>> >> Jeff Richards
>> >> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
>> >> "Robert A. Macy" <m...@california.com> wrote in
>> >> messagenews:1192398510.266260.13060@v29g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> > On Oct 10, 1:53 pm, "Jeff Richards" <JRicha...@msn.com.au> wrote:
>> >> >> Find a page with the line on it. If there are multiple pages with
>> >> >> lines,
>> >> >> choose one where the line first appears.
>>
>> >> >> Insert page breaks in front of each line of text on the page, from
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> bottom up. After inserting one of the breaks the line will move to
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> next
>> >> >> page and will disappear from the current page. That line will
>> >> >> contain
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> footnote reference. Examine the line closely to see where it is.
>> >> >> If
>> >> >> necessary, turn on all options (Tools / Options / View) to see it.
>> >> >> Once
>> >> >> identified, the others should be easier to find.
>>
>> >> >> A hex editor is no use. As a last resort you can export the text
>> >> >> to a
>> >> >> text
>> >> >> file and paste it back in, but that destroys your formatting. You
>> >> >> won't
>> >> >> find ^e and ^f because the footnote is empty. Saving the file as
>> >> >> WordPad
>> >> >> and then importing it may work, if WordPad doesn't support
>> >> >> footnotes.
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Jeff Richards
>> >> >> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
>>
>> >> > Jeff,
>>
>> >> > Thank you for your reply. You're right about the hex editor's
>> >> > effectiveness. To expedite, I copied the whole, now 110 pages, into
>> >> > a
>> >> > sacrificial copy and removed all but the last page. The line
>> >> > remained. I tried removing one text line at a time, until I was
>> >> > down
>> >> > to the last text line. The drawn in line was still there. I then
>> >> > removed every character in the text line and only when I removed the
>> >> > last character, no idea because there was no space, or ability to go
>> >> > passed that remaining character. Only when the last del stroke
>> >> > removed something, did the line disappear.
>>
>> >> > I think you're right. It must be some kind of footnote, but still
>> >> > how
>> >> > to get rid of it without deleting all the text?
>>
>> >> > Robert- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> > Jeff,
>>
>> > Thank you for your reply.
>>
>> > This is a real problem since the line is already here, so changing
>> > autoformat is too late, like shutting doors after animals escaping,
>> > etc
>>
>> > Oddly, in the normal way I use Word the display type is called
>> > something else, and the view mode called 'normal' by Word is VERY
>> > abnormal, containing many, many [normally] unseen characters.
>>
>> > Perhaps, one of the other view modes will work. I know 'normal' mode
>> > did not show anything to delete, it does show page breaks etc.
>>
>> > Problem is that I can't get to the 'other' side of the line to delete
>> > it. Everytime I try to delete the line when there is no text line
>> > after this displayed line, it won't. Instead, Word's delete function
>> > starts backspacing in its deleting process.
>>
>> > Maybe try each 'view' mode will show something.
>>
>> > But must tell you, this 'added' feature is NO feature and very
>> > irritating.
>>
>> > Robert- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Thank you both for your replies, however...
>
> First the ability to delete the displayed line. *IF* the display line
> is after the cursor [the last line of the document], I can't delete
> it. If I shift-down arrow and delete, the delete acts like a
> backspace and walks back up the document, but leaves the display line
> intact. If I shift-down arrow and right click, I get a menu of cut,
> copy, paste etc, upon selecting cut, again the delete is like a
> backspace and the display line is left intact.
>
> There is no header, nor footer. Going to view, 'header footer' I can
> see both are blank. If I have ONE character left, the display line
> stays.
>
> Try yourself. Open Word. Place a series of dashes across the page
> until it wordwraps, back up then hit enter to terminate the line. The
> line is magically changed by Word from a series of dashes to a solid
> line below where the text line was and now cannot be removed.
>
> If you put the dashes in the middle of blank text lines, you'll easily
> remove the display line. If you put the dashes as the last text line,
> you'll not be able to get rid of it.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Robert
>

 

[MEB]

Well, I must apologize, I duplicated your issue, but ONLY if I deleted the
automatic drop to the new line after autoformat.

Sorry. You did indicate there was nothing below the line.

What I find weird is that the original failure [text, line with deleted
lower line, unable to delete line] was changed to rtf [unable to delete],
saved and closed, open rft [unable to delete], saved as txt [gone
obviously], close, re-open original doc, and it deleted. Go back to the rtf,
and it deleted.

Second test with ONLY a paragraph marker and the line: same thing. First
unable to delete, mess around with other saved formats of the same file,
close Word, re-open the doc, it then deleted from the original doc, and from
the original failure.

That makes little sense unless something is cleared from memory/cache or
something. So I am out of ideas for your document . . .

Can you hover over the line, wait for the two *fingers* and move/drag it
lower, I could ... ?

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
________

 

[Robert A. Macy]

On Oct 16, 3:20 am, "MEB" <meb@not h...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Well, I must apologize, I duplicated your issue, but ONLY if I deleted the
> automatic drop to the new line after autoformat.
>
> Sorry. You did indicate there was nothing below the line.
>
> What I find weird is that the original failure [text, line with deleted
> lower line, unable to delete line] was changed to rtf [unable to delete],
> saved and closed, open rft [unable to delete], saved as txt [gone
> obviously], close, re-open original doc, and it deleted. Go back to the rtf,
> and it deleted.
>
> Second test with ONLY a paragraph marker and the line: same thing. First
> unable to delete, mess around with other saved formats of the same file,
> close Word, re-open the doc, it then deleted from the original doc, and from
> the original failure.
>
> That makes little sense unless something is cleared from memory/cache or
> something. So I am out of ideas for your document . . .
>
> Can you hover over the line, wait for the two *fingers* and move/drag it
> lower, I could ... ?
>
> --
> MEBhttp://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> ________

Thanks for your efforts. I tried some more things. Well, the line is
still here.

If the display line is the last line in the document, I have not been
able to get rid of it.

I have resolved the 'backspace' effect. If each line contains text
and I'm at the end of the last line of text, just above the display
line, then hitting delete does nothing. Only if the above text lines
are blank, does Word walk its way backwards, like backspace. OK,
that's resolved.

But, the display line stays.

If I put the cursor on the display line, the cursor splits into an
equals sign, or a pair of lines, that allow me to position the display
line at the top or at the bottom of a text line range. But I cannot
add any lines after the display line. Thus, can't delete it.

Right now operating on the display line to remove it is my only
option. Operating on the whole document is not an option. Although
scooping and saving or saving in various formats would work. Just not
an option at this time. May have to wait until document is done and
then remove the line.

It's just irritating that anything so uncontrolled can occur.

Robert

 

[Robert A. Macy]

On Oct 16, 3:00 am, "Jeff Richards" <JRicha...@msn.com.au> wrote:
> If that's the sort of line it is, then you should be able to put the cursor
> at the start, select Format / Borders and Shading and select None.
>
> If it might simply be formatting, use Format / Reveal Formatting to see what
> it might be. But with formatting there should be no problem in moving the
> cursor beyond the formatted area.
> --
> Jeff Richards
> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

Jeff,

Thank you, You FOUND IT!!!

Don't have / Reveal Formatting as an option ??

Steps to remove the display line are:

Put the cursor at the last character above the display line.
Select Format menu
Select Boundary and Shading
Select None, ok

and the line magically disappears.

To bring the line back, simply put dashes completely across the screen
until word wrap, upon enter the line changes from a series of dashes
to a solid line that was extremely difficult to remove, since it's not
identified anywhere. And I still don't know technically what it's
for.

Place the cursor at the last character before the line, go through the
above steps and VOILA! line disappears.

Thanks again, Jeff.

Robert

 

[thanatoid]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Arrrghhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Jeff Richards]

Thanks for letting us know that you were able to sort it out.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Robert A. Macy" <macy@california.com> wrote in message
news:1192895838.855717.255060@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 16, 3:00 am, "Jeff Richards" <JRicha...@msn.com.au> wrote:
>> If that's the sort of line it is, then you should be able to put the
>> cursor
>> at the start, select Format / Borders and Shading and select None.
>>
>> If it might simply be formatting, use Format / Reveal Formatting to see
>> what
>> it might be. But with formatting there should be no problem in moving
>> the
>> cursor beyond the formatted area.
>> --
>> Jeff Richards
>> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
>
> Jeff,
>
> Thank you, You FOUND IT!!!
>
> Don't have / Reveal Formatting as an option ??
>
> Steps to remove the display line are:
>
> Put the cursor at the last character above the display line.
> Select Format menu
> Select Boundary and Shading
> Select None, ok
>
> and the line magically disappears.
>
> To bring the line back, simply put dashes completely across the screen
> until word wrap, upon enter the line changes from a series of dashes
> to a solid line that was extremely difficult to remove, since it's not
> identified anywhere. And I still don't know technically what it's
> for.
>
> Place the cursor at the last character before the line, go through the
> above steps and VOILA! line disappears.
>
> Thanks again, Jeff.
>
> Robert
>

 

[MEB]

"Robert A. Macy" <macy@california.com> wrote in message
news:1192895026.094559.64590@t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

|
| Thanks for your efforts. I tried some more things. Well, the line is
| still here.
|
| If the display line is the last line in the document, I have not been
| able to get rid of it.
|
| I have resolved the 'backspace' effect. If each line contains text
| and I'm at the end of the last line of text, just above the display
| line, then hitting delete does nothing. Only if the above text lines
| are blank, does Word walk its way backwards, like backspace. OK,
| that's resolved.
|
| But, the display line stays.
|
| If I put the cursor on the display line, the cursor splits into an
| equals sign, or a pair of lines, that allow me to position the display
| line at the top or at the bottom of a text line range. But I cannot
| add any lines after the display line. Thus, can't delete it.
|
| Right now operating on the display line to remove it is my only
| option. Operating on the whole document is not an option. Although
| scooping and saving or saving in various formats would work. Just not
| an option at this time. May have to wait until document is done and
| then remove the line.
|
| It's just irritating that anything so uncontrolled can occur.
|
| Robert
|

I see you finally got it, formatting [think I suggested that rather early
in this discussion].
It seems you are complaining about Word having built-in autoformatting. You
can easily avoid this auto-created separator line by placing a single space
within the line, or adjust your autoformatting options, or use some other
character as your *manual* separator.

If your document is creating these without input from you, then you must
have saved the style at sometime as the normal blank document dot, or have
created your own named dot [document format/layout]. Hopefully, you never
saved these to the normal.dot as the default activities to be used on all
documents.

Now WHY it does this is also important [here's an admittedly simplistic
explanation].

Word tries to prepare a document for presentation/publication, its over
broad for a simple text document. It is not *idiot proof* meaning it takes
some knowledge to use it. WordPad, Notepad, EditPad or some other generic
document creator would more suit the purpose and create MUCH smaller and
portable documents. Many also allow simple formatting as well.
Word includes hooks to all the other Office applications and includes these
formatting, picture presentation data, and a number of other aspects in
every saved file [extension that supports it] {complex/compound file
aspects}.

Let's try to think about its usage, like for a brochure.
Many people are working on their individual segments of the document, and
the master document must include areas they can modify easily. These areas
may expand or contract based upon the input of those work groups.
Putting this *area* line in the document separates it from the other areas
*automatically*, yet allows that area to edited/modified without
contaminating the other group's input for their segment. Without this line,
one would need to manually adjust the document or *cut and paste* or
*insert* constantly, and the master document would likely become a mess.

How about a layout for column mode, say for a school newspaper.
The paper has a basic column layout, but each day it changes, as well as
the content. Now they could create a new format every day, or they can
create a document layout that is easily modified by using these area lines
and other formatting.
So they setup the *head* with little changeable boxes the basic column
format [say five columns] picture areas [floating blank boxes] and use the
separator lines within the columns so they can paste whatever news article
they wish into the various columns, and its automatically adjusted to the
content needs.

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| On Oct 16, 3:20 am, "MEB" <meb@not h...@hotmail.com> wrote:
| > Well, I must apologize, I duplicated your issue, but ONLY if I deleted
the
| > automatic drop to the new line after autoformat.
| >
| > Sorry. You did indicate there was nothing below the line.
| >
| > What I find weird is that the original failure [text, line with deleted
| > lower line, unable to delete line] was changed to rtf [unable to
delete],
| > saved and closed, open rft [unable to delete], saved as txt [gone
| > obviously], close, re-open original doc, and it deleted. Go back to the
rtf,
| > and it deleted.
| >
| > Second test with ONLY a paragraph marker and the line: same thing.
First
| > unable to delete, mess around with other saved formats of the same file,
| > close Word, re-open the doc, it then deleted from the original doc, and
from
| > the original failure.
| >
| > That makes little sense unless something is cleared from memory/cache
or
| > something. So I am out of ideas for your document . . .
| >
| > Can you hover over the line, wait for the two *fingers* and move/drag
it
| > lower, I could ... ?
| >
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