Bad Ubuntu

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Stephan Rose

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:55:17 -0700, Alpha wrote:

> On Jul 13, 8:57 am, Alias <a...@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:
>> Mike wrote:
>> > In article <lZmdncHHjvqqAQrbnZ2dnUVZ8vidn...@giganews.com>,
>> > Stephan Rose <nos...@spammer.com> wrote:

>>
>> >> Here is the release policy:

>>
>> >> LTS Releases are supported for 3 years (5 years server). All other releases
>> >> have 1 year support. When the current LTS expires, a new release is made
>> >> available with LTS support.

>>
>> >> What's so terribly difficult to understand about this?

>>
>> > Nothing actually. What it means is Ubuntu is not something to run a
>> > business on. 3 years?!?! 1 year?!?! Wow, and people complain
>> > about the "MS upgrade treadmill"! MS is still supporting Windows 2000
>> > after 8 years and XP after 6 years.

>>
>> > No business wants OS upgrades forced on them every 3 years in order to
>> > stay supported. If MS did that you would be screaming "monopoly"!

>>
>> > Mike

>>
>> Ubuntu upgrades are totally painless. If you're a business, you back up
>> your data. Installing a new version of Ubuntu is a nice walk in the park
>> compared to Windows which could be likened to taking a walk in South
>> Central LA at 3AM on a Sunday morning.
>>
>> Alias- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
> Except that, on 10 PCs, it has FAILED to install every time.


Well if the LiveCD booted and you made it to the graphical installer then
honestly, you as a user, were doing something wrong if you failed to
install it. I don't mean this in a bad way so please don't take offense.
Not my intention. Just my honest observation because if a LiveCD boots
then you already know that the OS will work on the hardware. Unlike the
windows installers, the LiveCD actually really run the OS just like it
would run off the hard drive. So to "install" itself, the only thing it
has left to do is copy its files to a partition you designate to install
it to and update / add the boot manager as necessary.

If the LiveCD does not boot, then there indeed is an issue with the OS
itself and there is some hardware compatibility problem.


I've successfully installed it on everything ranging on today's latest
hardware to a several year old laptop with under 256mb ram and some weird
proprietary and non-standard LCD hardware.

The only install I've ever had a problem with was that laptop install as
not only is it just barely at spec, but it also has really oddball display
hardware. Not an install I'd recommend for a beginner.

All my other installs though quite honestly went perfectly smoothly, both
on desktops and newer laptops.

I'm not saying there can't be install issues. There can be. But they are
generally unlikely if the LiveCD boots successfully, and they are even
less likely to occur on 10 different machines. Just statistically
speaking, at least one should work.

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Stephan
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Alias

Alpha wrote:
> On Jul 13, 8:57 am, Alias <a...@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:
>> Mike wrote:
>>> In article <lZmdncHHjvqqAQrbnZ2dnUVZ8vidn...@giganews.com>,
>>> Stephan Rose <nos...@spammer.com> wrote:
>>>> Here is the release policy:
>>>> LTS Releases are supported for 3 years (5 years server). All other releases
>>>> have 1 year support. When the current LTS expires, a new release is made
>>>> available with LTS support.
>>>> What's so terribly difficult to understand about this?
>>> Nothing actually. What it means is Ubuntu is not something to run a
>>> business on. 3 years?!?! 1 year?!?! Wow, and people complain
>>> about the "MS upgrade treadmill"! MS is still supporting Windows 2000
>>> after 8 years and XP after 6 years.
>>> No business wants OS upgrades forced on them every 3 years in order to
>>> stay supported. If MS did that you would be screaming "monopoly"!
>>> Mike

>> Ubuntu upgrades are totally painless. If you're a business, you back up
>> your data. Installing a new version of Ubuntu is a nice walk in the park
>> compared to Windows which could be likened to taking a walk in South
>> Central LA at 3AM on a Sunday morning.
>>
>> Alias- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
> Except that, on 10 PCs, it has FAILED to install every time.
>


Bullsh¡t

Alias
 
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Telstar

"Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
news:lZmdnfvHjvqfbgrbnZ2dnUVZ8vidnZ2d@giganews.com...
> On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:55:17 -0700, Alpha wrote:
>
>> On Jul 13, 8:57 am, Alias <a...@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:
>>> Mike wrote:
>>> > In article <lZmdncHHjvqqAQrbnZ2dnUVZ8vidn...@giganews.com>,
>>> > Stephan Rose <nos...@spammer.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >> Here is the release policy:
>>>
>>> >> LTS Releases are supported for 3 years (5 years server). All other
>>> >> releases
>>> >> have 1 year support. When the current LTS expires, a new release is
>>> >> made
>>> >> available with LTS support.
>>>
>>> >> What's so terribly difficult to understand about this?
>>>
>>> > Nothing actually. What it means is Ubuntu is not something to run a
>>> > business on. 3 years?!?! 1 year?!?! Wow, and people complain
>>> > about the "MS upgrade treadmill"! MS is still supporting Windows
>>> > 2000
>>> > after 8 years and XP after 6 years.
>>>
>>> > No business wants OS upgrades forced on them every 3 years in order to
>>> > stay supported. If MS did that you would be screaming "monopoly"!
>>>
>>> > Mike
>>>
>>> Ubuntu upgrades are totally painless. If you're a business, you back up
>>> your data. Installing a new version of Ubuntu is a nice walk in the park
>>> compared to Windows which could be likened to taking a walk in South
>>> Central LA at 3AM on a Sunday morning.
>>>
>>> Alias- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -

>>
>> Except that, on 10 PCs, it has FAILED to install every time.

>
> Well if the LiveCD booted and you made it to the graphical installer then
> honestly, you as a user, were doing something wrong if you failed to
> install it.


It did not get this far.


I don't mean this in a bad way so please don't take offense.
> Not my intention. Just my honest observation because if a LiveCD boots
> then you already know that the OS will work on the hardware. Unlike the
> windows installers, the LiveCD actually really run the OS just like it
> would run off the hard drive. So to "install" itself, the only thing it
> has left to do is copy its files to a partition you designate to install
> it to and update / add the boot manager as necessary.
>
> If the LiveCD does not boot, then there indeed is an issue with the OS
> itself and there is some hardware compatibility problem.
>


My point exactly!!! So how is this so great??????


>
> I've successfully installed it on everything ranging on today's latest
> hardware to a several year old laptop with under 256mb ram and some weird
> proprietary and non-standard LCD hardware.
>
> The only install I've ever had a problem with was that laptop install as
> not only is it just barely at spec, but it also has really oddball display
> hardware. Not an install I'd recommend for a beginner.
>
> All my other installs though quite honestly went perfectly smoothly, both
> on desktops and newer laptops.
>
> I'm not saying there can't be install issues. There can be. But they are
> generally unlikely if the LiveCD boots successfully, and they are even
> less likely to occur on 10 different machines. Just statistically
> speaking, at least one should work.
>
> --
> Stephan
> 2003 Yamaha R6
>
> ????????????????
> ??????????????
 
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Telstar

"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
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> Alpha wrote:
>> On Jul 13, 8:57 am, Alias <a...@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:
>>> Mike wrote:
>>>> In article <lZmdncHHjvqqAQrbnZ2dnUVZ8vidn...@giganews.com>,
>>>> Stephan Rose <nos...@spammer.com> wrote:
>>>>> Here is the release policy:
>>>>> LTS Releases are supported for 3 years (5 years server). All other
>>>>> releases
>>>>> have 1 year support. When the current LTS expires, a new release is
>>>>> made
>>>>> available with LTS support.
>>>>> What's so terribly difficult to understand about this?
>>>> Nothing actually. What it means is Ubuntu is not something to run a
>>>> business on. 3 years?!?! 1 year?!?! Wow, and people complain
>>>> about the "MS upgrade treadmill"! MS is still supporting Windows 2000
>>>> after 8 years and XP after 6 years.
>>>> No business wants OS upgrades forced on them every 3 years in order to
>>>> stay supported. If MS did that you would be screaming "monopoly"!
>>>> Mike
>>> Ubuntu upgrades are totally painless. If you're a business, you back up
>>> your data. Installing a new version of Ubuntu is a nice walk in the park
>>> compared to Windows which could be likened to taking a walk in South
>>> Central LA at 3AM on a Sunday morning.
>>>
>>> Alias- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -

>>
>> Except that, on 10 PCs, it has FAILED to install every time.
>>

>
> Bullsh¡t
>


Why? I report the truth!

> Alias
 
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Frank

Telstar wrote:

>>
>>Bullsh¡t
>>

>
>
> Why? I report the truth!
>
>
>>Alias

>
>
>

Alias can't handle the truth! :)
Frank
 
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Alias

Telstar wrote:
> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
> news:u$PfR0axHHA.1776@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Alpha wrote:
>>> On Jul 13, 8:57 am, Alias <a...@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:
>>>> Mike wrote:
>>>>> In article <lZmdncHHjvqqAQrbnZ2dnUVZ8vidn...@giganews.com>,
>>>>> Stephan Rose <nos...@spammer.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Here is the release policy:
>>>>>> LTS Releases are supported for 3 years (5 years server). All other
>>>>>> releases
>>>>>> have 1 year support. When the current LTS expires, a new release is
>>>>>> made
>>>>>> available with LTS support.
>>>>>> What's so terribly difficult to understand about this?
>>>>> Nothing actually. What it means is Ubuntu is not something to run a
>>>>> business on. 3 years?!?! 1 year?!?! Wow, and people complain
>>>>> about the "MS upgrade treadmill"! MS is still supporting Windows 2000
>>>>> after 8 years and XP after 6 years.
>>>>> No business wants OS upgrades forced on them every 3 years in order to
>>>>> stay supported. If MS did that you would be screaming "monopoly"!
>>>>> Mike
>>>> Ubuntu upgrades are totally painless. If you're a business, you back up
>>>> your data. Installing a new version of Ubuntu is a nice walk in the park
>>>> compared to Windows which could be likened to taking a walk in South
>>>> Central LA at 3AM on a Sunday morning.
>>>>
>>>> Alias- Hide quoted text -
>>>>
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> Except that, on 10 PCs, it has FAILED to install every time.
>>>

>> Bullsh¡t
>>

>
> Why? I report the truth!
>
>> Alias

>
>


Sounds like the CD was dorked. Did you order the CD or burn the
downloaded ISO?

Alias
 
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Stephan Rose

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:48:28 -0700, Telstar wrote:

> "Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
> news:lZmdnfvHjvqfbgrbnZ2dnUVZ8vidnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:55:17 -0700, Alpha wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 13, 8:57 am, Alias <a...@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:
>>>> Mike wrote:
>>>> > In article <lZmdncHHjvqqAQrbnZ2dnUVZ8vidn...@giganews.com>,
>>>> > Stephan Rose <nos...@spammer.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >> Here is the release policy:
>>>>
>>>> >> LTS Releases are supported for 3 years (5 years server). All other
>>>> >> releases
>>>> >> have 1 year support. When the current LTS expires, a new release is
>>>> >> made
>>>> >> available with LTS support.
>>>>
>>>> >> What's so terribly difficult to understand about this?
>>>>
>>>> > Nothing actually. What it means is Ubuntu is not something to run a
>>>> > business on. 3 years?!?! 1 year?!?! Wow, and people complain
>>>> > about the "MS upgrade treadmill"! MS is still supporting Windows
>>>> > 2000
>>>> > after 8 years and XP after 6 years.
>>>>
>>>> > No business wants OS upgrades forced on them every 3 years in order to
>>>> > stay supported. If MS did that you would be screaming "monopoly"!
>>>>
>>>> > Mike
>>>>
>>>> Ubuntu upgrades are totally painless. If you're a business, you back up
>>>> your data. Installing a new version of Ubuntu is a nice walk in the park
>>>> compared to Windows which could be likened to taking a walk in South
>>>> Central LA at 3AM on a Sunday morning.
>>>>
>>>> Alias- Hide quoted text -
>>>>
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>
>>> Except that, on 10 PCs, it has FAILED to install every time.

>>
>> Well if the LiveCD booted and you made it to the graphical installer then
>> honestly, you as a user, were doing something wrong if you failed to
>> install it.

>
> It did not get this far.
>
>
> I don't mean this in a bad way so please don't take offense.
>> Not my intention. Just my honest observation because if a LiveCD boots
>> then you already know that the OS will work on the hardware. Unlike the
>> windows installers, the LiveCD actually really run the OS just like it
>> would run off the hard drive. So to "install" itself, the only thing it
>> has left to do is copy its files to a partition you designate to install
>> it to and update / add the boot manager as necessary.
>>
>> If the LiveCD does not boot, then there indeed is an issue with the OS
>> itself and there is some hardware compatibility problem.
>>

>
> My point exactly!!! So how is this so great??????
>


Well if that is what was happening, then it obviously wasn't very great
for you. I wouldn't disagree there.

As to why it was failing, there isn't much I can say without more
information.

I do know that there was an issue with the 6.06 (Edgy) LiveCD not booting
with certain newer nVidia cards. Well, it was booting, but the driver it
picked didn't correctly support the newer cards yet so you'd end up with a
blank screen.

This has since been fixed in 7.04 but it nonetheless was an issue at that
time.

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

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