Apple's OSX Leopard Gets First UNIX Certificate for BSD

[Rick]

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:26:32 -0700, Oxford wrote:

> Apple's OSX now beats Linux and MS Exchange Server on ALL fronts, at
> 1/5th the price, for TWICE the speed!
>
> Enjoy!
>
Hey, jerk... why do you keep showing up where you are not wanted?


--
Rick

 

[Rick]

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:04:05 -0700, Oxford wrote:

> Linonut <linonut@bollsouth.nut> wrote:
>
>> > Apple's OSX now beats Linux and MS Exchange Server on ALL fronts, at
>> > 1/5th the price, for TWICE the speed!
>>
>> My favorite book, "Advanced Programming in the UNIX Environment", gives
>> equal time to Solaris, Apple OSX, FreeBSD, and Linux.
>>
>> That's all I need to know.
>>
>> And guess what? They all have slightly different features set that
>> they support in their implementations of the "UNIX API".
>
> Yes, and Apple's implementation will be the standard in the 10, 20 year
> time frame.

No, it won't.

> Linux had a chance but didn't execute.

Linux executes quite well.

> OSX Server is now the king of business computing.

No, it isn't.

>
> http://www.apple.com/macosx/server/
>
>> Oh, your comparison of OSX to MS Exchange Server is extremely
>> misinformed, as is the price and speed comparison to Linux. From what
>> I've heard, Linux now has a very fast TCP/IP stack.
>>
>> Maybe you should be back to making a Web page, a blog, a digital
>> painting, or something else more in line with your skillset.
>
> I just know from history that Apple's OSX Server will become the
> dominate platform for businesses worldwide.

I just know you're an idiotic fanboi that scares more people away from OS
X than recruits them.

>
> Linux is 1/5th the sales of OSX Server or OSX Client, so Linux had a
> shot but didn't organize in time. Now Apple owns the future of all
> business computing.

.... and how many free downloads/installs are there? How many multiple
installs from sales?


>
> Ah, but you forget, MS Exchange is largely used in poorly performing
> companies.

Bullshit.

> Nobody wants to use it unless they are forced.

That may be true.

>
> Those are facts.

Uh, no.

>
> So given some time OSX Server will be the light that helps many
> companies move into the open source universe since Apple is the primary
> champion of those goals.

Let me know when I download the source to the pieces that lay on top of
Darwin, manipulate them and re-distribute the source.

>
> Have a happy day!

When you are gone.

(snip)
--
Rick

 

[kevpan158]

"Rick" <none@nomail.com> wrote in message
news:13k4hqjqngffn41@news.supernews.com...
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:26:32 -0700, Oxford wrote:
>
>> Apple's OSX now beats Linux and MS Exchange Server on ALL fronts, at
>> 1/5th the price, for TWICE the speed!
>>
>> Enjoy!
>>
> Hey, jerk... why do you keep showing up where you are not wanted?

Because He Loves You. Just FYI. Remember The Night They Had To Remove You
With That Crowbar? Just FYI. You Silly Boy.....

Just FYI
>
>
> --
> Rick

 

[Lang Murphy]

<snip>
> MS basically lost the Server race about 3 years ago when they couldn't
> compete with Apple's OSX Server.
<snip>

Wha!?! You're kidding, right? Ridiculous. Who's running OSX server? Other
than Apple?

Lang

 

[Christopher Hunter]

Andy David {MVP} wrote:

> Yea right. You want to help us poor uneducated admins.

If you're "Windows Educated", you're a point-n-click-n-drool moron. You've
paid silly amounts for worthless "qualifications":

MCSE= "Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert"

/Most/ of these "computer certifications" are entirely worthless - even most
of the Unix, Novell and Cisco ones. There is /no/ substitute for real
experience on proper operating systems in a real, working environment.
Windows "experience" simply doesn't count in Banking, ISP, data
warehousing, engineering, etc.

C.

--
Windows- a poor proprietary client for a Unix world.

 

[Christopher Hunter]

Oxford wrote:
>
> OSX Server is now the king of business computing.

Don't be silly. I can't find /any/ Fortune 100 company using it. I can
find many using the *LAMP* environment. Ever fewer are using MS
software...

C.

--
Windows- a poor proprietary client for a Unix world.

 

[Peter Köhlmann]

Christopher Hunter wrote:

> Oxford wrote:
>>
>> OSX Server is now the king of business computing.
>
> Don't be silly. I can't find /any/ Fortune 100 company using it. I can
> find many using the *LAMP* environment. Ever fewer are using MS
> software...
>
> C.
>

Naturally you don't see it "in the wild"

Business people can (mostly) count. And if tehy add the sums, apple servers
are way too expensive
Nobody having all his marbles would be dumb enough to uses servers from a
single source company with idiotic prices

As usual, OxRetard, the typical mac user and fanboi, is unable to see the
world as it is.
--
A fool-proof method for sculpting an elephant:
first, get a huge block of marble then you chip
away everything that doesn't look like an elephant.

 

[Rene Frenger]

Do you know what harm an Apple did to the Paradise?

--

Regards,

Rene Frenger


"Oxford" wrote:

> Apple's OSX now beats Linux and MS Exchange Server on ALL fronts, at
> 1/5th the price, for TWICE the speed!
>
> Enjoy!
>
> --
>
> Open Standards Certification Strengthens Across System Platforms
>
> SAN FRANCISCO, Nov. 19 2007 -- The Open Group, a vendor and
> technology-neutral consortium focused on open standards and global
> interoperability within and between enterprises, today announced that
> both Mac OS X Leopard and Mac OS X Server Leopard from Apple Inc. have
> been awarded a certificate of conformance to the UNIX(R) 03 standard.
>
> UNIX 03 is the certification mark for systems conforming to the latest
> UNIX product standard developed by The Open Group Platform Forum for the
> Single UNIX Specification version 3.
>
> This certification is significant as it further broadens the installed
> base of UNIX systems in the marketplace to include a popular desktop
> platform. In addition, Apple's UNIX 03 certification is a milestone for
> the UNIX certification program since Mac OS X is the first operating
> system derived from the open source BSD base of historical UNIX products
> to meet the certification requirements.
>
> The Single UNIX Specification is a set of open specifications that
> define the requirements for a conformant UNIX system. Operating systems
> that support the Single UNIX Specification provide a set of standard
> interfaces allowing the rich catalog of back office and other
> applications that comply with the specification to be easily ported
> between the compliant operating systems. With certification of Mac OS X,
> end users now benefit from such applications available on a range of
> certified UNIX 03 systems available from major vendors, including Apple,
> Fujitsu, IBM, Hewlett-Packard, and Sun Microsystems.
>
> "For over ten years, the Single UNIX Specification has consistently
> provided both scalability and stability to end users -- one hallmark of a
> tried and true technology standard," said Allen Brown, president and CEO
> for The Open Group. "Operating platforms conforming to the UNIX 03
> standard assures enterprises with industrial strength products, as well
> as an opportunity to avoid limited choice in vendor partnership. In
> achieving UNIX 03 certification, Apple has shown true commitment to its
> customers in providing open solutions that are warranted and fully
> supported."
>
> Further information on The Open Group can be found at
> http://www.opengroup.org.
>
> Full Article:
>
> http://snipurl.com/1two4
>
> If you want to move up to the World's most modern UNIX, go here:
>
> http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/
>
> http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/specs.html
>
> World's lowest priced, fastest hardware here:
>
> http://www.apple.com/xserve/
>
> Apple is the future of all serious UNIX, and MS Exchange users, so join
> in the fun!
>
> http://www.apple.com/xserve/specs.html
>
> http://developer.apple.com/
>
> -
>

 

[Linonut]

* Peter Köhlmann fired off this tart reply:

> Christopher Hunter wrote:
>
>> Oxford wrote:
>>>
>>> OSX Server is now the king of business computing.
>>
>> Don't be silly. I can't find /any/ Fortune 100 company using it. I can
>> find many using the *LAMP* environment. Ever fewer are using MS
>> software...
>
> Naturally you don't see it "in the wild"
>
> Business people can (mostly) count. And if tehy add the sums, apple servers
> are way too expensive
>
> Nobody having all his marbles would be dumb enough to uses servers from a
> single source company with idiotic prices

Yeah, that's why nobody buys Windows servers that need more attention
than an incontinent senile great-grandmother, and integrated
single-source single-vendor lock-in solutions like Sharepoint and
Exchange.

--
Tux rox!

 

[Peter Köhlmann]

Linonut wrote:

> * Peter Köhlmann fired off this tart reply:
>
>> Christopher Hunter wrote:
>>
>>> Oxford wrote:
>>>>
>>>> OSX Server is now the king of business computing.
>>>
>>> Don't be silly. I can't find /any/ Fortune 100 company using it. I can
>>> find many using the *LAMP* environment. Ever fewer are using MS
>>> software...
>>
>> Naturally you don't see it "in the wild"
>>
>> Business people can (mostly) count. And if tehy add the sums, apple
>> servers are way too expensive
>>
>> Nobody having all his marbles would be dumb enough to uses servers from a
>> single source company with idiotic prices
>
> Yeah, that's why nobody buys Windows servers that need more attention
> than an incontinent senile great-grandmother, and integrated
> single-source single-vendor lock-in solutions like Sharepoint and
> Exchange.
>

I talk about hardware *and* software
With windows, you have phenomenal choice in hardware.
With linux, you can add choice in software to that (and even more choice in
hardware)
With apple servers, you have neither. But you get get the "extra" price on
top of it

No sysadmin having half a clue would chose apple servers

But OxRetard, that so very typical Mac user and apple fanboi, tells us
that "OSX Server is now the king of business computing".

Snort
--
Only two things are infinite,
the Universe and Stupidity.
And I'm not quite sure about the former.
- Albert Einstein

 

[Bill Yanaire]

"Rene Frenger" <ReneFrenger@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:077B817E-8957-4814-BC4D-7F93FABFDA48@microsoft.com...
> Do you know what harm an Apple did to the Paradise?

Who made the Paradise anyway? Was it Chrysler or GM? I don't remember.


>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Rene Frenger
>
>
> "Oxford" wrote:
>
>> Apple's OSX now beats Linux and MS Exchange Server on ALL fronts, at
>> 1/5th the price, for TWICE the speed!
>>
>> Enjoy!
>>
>> --
>>
>> Open Standards Certification Strengthens Across System Platforms
>>
>> SAN FRANCISCO, Nov. 19 2007 -- The Open Group, a vendor and
>> technology-neutral consortium focused on open standards and global
>> interoperability within and between enterprises, today announced that
>> both Mac OS X Leopard and Mac OS X Server Leopard from Apple Inc. have
>> been awarded a certificate of conformance to the UNIX(R) 03 standard.
>>
>> UNIX 03 is the certification mark for systems conforming to the latest
>> UNIX product standard developed by The Open Group Platform Forum for the
>> Single UNIX Specification version 3.
>>
>> This certification is significant as it further broadens the installed
>> base of UNIX systems in the marketplace to include a popular desktop
>> platform. In addition, Apple's UNIX 03 certification is a milestone for
>> the UNIX certification program since Mac OS X is the first operating
>> system derived from the open source BSD base of historical UNIX products
>> to meet the certification requirements.
>>
>> The Single UNIX Specification is a set of open specifications that
>> define the requirements for a conformant UNIX system. Operating systems
>> that support the Single UNIX Specification provide a set of standard
>> interfaces allowing the rich catalog of back office and other
>> applications that comply with the specification to be easily ported
>> between the compliant operating systems. With certification of Mac OS X,
>> end users now benefit from such applications available on a range of
>> certified UNIX 03 systems available from major vendors, including Apple,
>> Fujitsu, IBM, Hewlett-Packard, and Sun Microsystems.
>>
>> "For over ten years, the Single UNIX Specification has consistently
>> provided both scalability and stability to end users -- one hallmark of a
>> tried and true technology standard," said Allen Brown, president and CEO
>> for The Open Group. "Operating platforms conforming to the UNIX 03
>> standard assures enterprises with industrial strength products, as well
>> as an opportunity to avoid limited choice in vendor partnership. In
>> achieving UNIX 03 certification, Apple has shown true commitment to its
>> customers in providing open solutions that are warranted and fully
>> supported."
>>
>> Further information on The Open Group can be found at
>> http://www.opengroup.org.
>>
>> Full Article:
>>
>> http://snipurl.com/1two4
>>
>> If you want to move up to the World's most modern UNIX, go here:
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/specs.html
>>
>> World's lowest priced, fastest hardware here:
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/xserve/
>>
>> Apple is the future of all serious UNIX, and MS Exchange users, so join
>> in the fun!
>>
>> http://www.apple.com/xserve/specs.html
>>
>> http://developer.apple.com/
>>
>> -
>>