Entered data is not retained

[PCR]

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| LOL! No, but that's a GRRREAT idea! Then I'll have done two of them.

Glad to have been of assistance. Too bad I didn't think of it before my
own list was 24 items long. But I've lost it!

| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:OJsedYgNIHA.6060@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
|> | I made a to-do list back in Sept. of a dozen things to get done
|> | this fall, and I've actually completed one of them.
|>
|> Uhuh. But it doesn't count, if item one is to tear up the list! Was
|> that it?
|>
|> | --
|> | Gary S. Terhune
|> | MS-MVP Shell/User
|> | www.grystmill.com
|> |
|> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
|> | news:%23RJjTJHNIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|> |> ms wrote:
|> |> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in news:#1BpL1wMIHA.5360
|> |> | @TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:
|> |> |
|> |> |> ms wrote:
|> |> |>
|> |> |>|> BTW, on a different computer about 6 months ago, with dark
|> |> |>|> lines in the display, you advised uninstall/reinstall the
|> |> |>|> video drivers in Safe Mode, will be doing that shortly.
|> |> |>|>
|> |> |>| Maybe I should repost that problem, to take a fresh look at
|> |> |>| it?
|> |> |>
|> |> |> Yes, repost it.
|> |> |>
|> |> |>| Thanks again for your help.
|> |> |>
|> |> |> You are welcome.
|> |> |>
|> |> | PCR:
|> |> |
|> |> | I read my saved data file from last June. Yourself and some of
|> |> | the other good folks here gave advice, I will dig through it,
|> |> | try some things, then repost with results, in about a week.
|> |>
|> |> Very well. Right! There ARE a lot of good people left here. But
|> |> HURRY, before ares & his troop of archeologists dig up & drag glee
|> |> off to Missoula, MT...!...
|> |> news:F4095859-AA67-427D-810A-E2869B90D29D@microsoft.com
|> |>
|> |> | And they say in
|> |> | retirement, you can do anything you want to, lots of time. It's
|> |> | been 15 years, and I still have a todo list, so to speak.
|> |>
|> |> Uhuh. I lost my original to-do list-- BUT the first item on my new
|> |> one is to find the original!
|> |>
|> |> | ms
|> |> |
|> |> | ms
|> |>
|> |> --
|> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> |> Should things get worse after this,
|> |> PCR
|> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[ms]

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in news:etXIeagNIHA.4136
@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:

> ms wrote:
>| "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in
>| news:OWPogJQNIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
>|
>|> Sounds right to me. Lord, I did it a few thousand times between '95
>|> and '02, and many, many times since then. You'd think I'd remember...
>|>
>|
>| Thanks very much, Gary.
>
> I'm glad to see the final touches have been applied to your connectoid
> w/o wrecking it again. I thought something was still fishy about it!
> Very good!
>
>| ms
>

The never-ending story.

I booted up today, DUN password blank ??

BTW, this computer greets me with a windows password screen, so be aware
that situation exists, don't know if it matters.

Anyway, on seond dialup after reboot, it still didn't save password, was
at Family logon.

I changed back to Windows logon. When I did that the other day, it called
for the OS CD, a few days ago, it got files, yet today when I went back
to Windows logon, again it asked for CD, again gets files- now why does
that happen??

Anyway, it saved password on a reboot, I shut down, booted up, it did not
save password. I dunno.

ms

 

[PCR]

ms wrote:
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in news:etXIeagNIHA.4136
| @TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:
|
|> ms wrote:
|>| "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in
|>| news:OWPogJQNIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
|>|
|>|> Sounds right to me. Lord, I did it a few thousand times between '95
|>|> and '02, and many, many times since then. You'd think I'd
|>|> remember...
|>|>
|>|
|>| Thanks very much, Gary.
|>
|> I'm glad to see the final touches have been applied to your
|> connectoid w/o wrecking it again. I thought something was still
|> fishy about it! Very good!
|>
|>| ms
|>
|
| The never-ending story.
|
| I booted up today, DUN password blank ??

Sheesh! The original problem was that you had no DUN at all or it
wouldn't work, though, & that is solved now-- right?

| BTW, this computer greets me with a windows password screen, so be
| aware that situation exists, don't know if it matters.

It might matter, if both the logon & DUN passwords use the same .pwl
(password) file. Then, if your fix is to delete that, you lose both
passwords.

| Anyway, on seond dialup after reboot, it still didn't save password,
| was at Family logon.

Here's an article with suggestions...
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/148925/en-us
Dial-up networking password is not saved

Read through it, & post a plan for examination. But I've personally
never had to do any of that-- I don't use any passwords, except the one
in my NetZero DUN. I don't seem to have the Registry settings that
article speaks of (including no ProfilesList), & the only .pwl file I
have is Default.pwl. And at Control Panel, Network, I am set... Client
for Microsoft Networks, Dial-Up Adapter, & TCP/IP. But I can't swear
that is what you should be!

So... we must hope Terhune hasn't fallen into a deeper than usual
earthquake!

Here are other articles, which may/may not precisely apply...

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/136833/en-us
Cannot Connect to Internet Using MSN as Service Provider

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kben-us152104&Product=w98
How to Prevent a Windows 95, Windows 98, or Windows Me Logon Prompt at
Startup

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kben-us148925&Product=w98
Dial-Up Networking Dialog Box Prompts for Domain Name

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kben-us230059&Product=w98
Windows 98/Me Client Cannot Change Password

| I changed back to Windows logon. When I did that the other day, it
| called for the OS CD, a few days ago, it got files, yet today when I
| went back to Windows logon, again it asked for CD, again gets files-
| now why does that happen??

Not sure. Did it seem to ask for the same files? Can it have wanted to
go back to Client for Microsoft Networks?

| Anyway, it saved password on a reboot, I shut down, booted up, it did
| not save password. I dunno.

Read through those articles & try something or just post a plan.

| ms

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[ms]

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in
news:u8lv2u5NIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:

> ms wrote:
>| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in news:etXIeagNIHA.4136
>| @TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:
>|
>|> ms wrote:
>|>| "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in
>|>| news:OWPogJQNIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
>|>|
>|>|> Sounds right to me. Lord, I did it a few thousand times between
>|>|> '95 and '02, and many, many times since then. You'd think I'd
>|>|> remember...
>|>|>
>|>|
>|>| Thanks very much, Gary.
>|>
>|> I'm glad to see the final touches have been applied to your
>|> connectoid w/o wrecking it again. I thought something was still
>|> fishy about it! Very good!
>|>
>|>| ms
>|>
>|
>| The never-ending story.
>|
>| I booted up today, DUN password blank ??
>
> Sheesh! The original problem was that you had no DUN at all or it
> wouldn't work, though, & that is solved now-- right?
>
It now dials up very reliably, if I enter the password, and reboot, that
time the password is saved.

>| BTW, this computer greets me with a windows password screen, so be
>| aware that situation exists, don't know if it matters.
>
> It might matter, if both the logon & DUN passwords use the same .pwl
> (password) file. Then, if your fix is to delete that, you lose both
> passwords.
>
>| Anyway, on seond dialup after reboot, it still didn't save password,
>| was at Family logon.
>
> Here's an article with suggestions...
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/148925/en-us
> Dial-up networking password is not saved
>
> Read through it, & post a plan for examination. But I've personally
> never had to do any of that-- I don't use any passwords, except the
> one in my NetZero DUN. I don't seem to have the Registry settings that
> article speaks of (including no ProfilesList), & the only .pwl file I
> have is Default.pwl. And at Control Panel, Network, I am set... Client
> for Microsoft Networks, Dial-Up Adapter, & TCP/IP. But I can't swear
> that is what you should be!
>
> So... we must hope Terhune hasn't fallen into a deeper than usual
> earthquake!
>
> Here are other articles, which may/may not precisely apply...
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/136833/en-us
> Cannot Connect to Internet Using MSN as Service Provider
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kben-us152104&Product=
> w98 How to Prevent a Windows 95, Windows 98, or Windows Me Logon
> Prompt at Startup
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kben-us148925&Product=
> w98 Dial-Up Networking Dialog Box Prompts for Domain Name
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kben-us230059&Product=
> w98 Windows 98/Me Client Cannot Change Password
>
>| I changed back to Windows logon. When I did that the other day, it
>| called for the OS CD, a few days ago, it got files, yet today when I
>| went back to Windows logon, again it asked for CD, again gets files-
>| now why does that happen??
>
> Not sure. Did it seem to ask for the same files? Can it have wanted to
> go back to Client for Microsoft Networks?
>
>| Anyway, it saved password on a reboot, I shut down, booted up, it did
>| not save password. I dunno.
>
> Read through those articles & try something or just post a plan.
>

Many thanks for that information. Just today, I configured the firewall,
loaded the last updates of some utilities, and put the desktop away in
storage. It is for backup if my main machine needs repair. With age and
energy situations, I can't keep up with more than 2 machines, which I have
running now.

So I will save that excellent data for the next time I boot up this
machine, it will come in handy.

On my todo list is still that Dell 600 with the wierd video problem, some
of those suggestions were heavy-duty, so will take time.

Thanks again, will post on the Dell later. BTW, I assume your address in
your sig is invalid?

ms

 

[PCR]

ms wrote:
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in
| news:u8lv2u5NIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:
|
|> ms wrote:
|>| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in news:etXIeagNIHA.4136
|>| @TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:
|>|
|>|> ms wrote:
|>|>| "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in
|>|>| news:OWPogJQNIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
|>|>|
|>|>|> Sounds right to me. Lord, I did it a few thousand times between
|>|>|> '95 and '02, and many, many times since then. You'd think I'd
|>|>|> remember...
|>|>|>
|>|>|
|>|>| Thanks very much, Gary.
|>|>
|>|> I'm glad to see the final touches have been applied to your
|>|> connectoid w/o wrecking it again. I thought something was still
|>|> fishy about it! Very good!
|>|>
|>|>| ms
|>|>
|>|
|>| The never-ending story.
|>|
|>| I booted up today, DUN password blank ??
|>
|> Sheesh! The original problem was that you had no DUN at all or it
|> wouldn't work, though, & that is solved now-- right?
|>
| It now dials up very reliably, if I enter the password, and reboot,
| that time the password is saved.

OK. If you have trouble with the password again, now I have discovered a
wealth of info at...

"START, Help, Windows 98 Troubleshooters, Modem, I cannot save my
password for my Dial-Up Networking connection"
(If you have trouble with blank pages there, post back for the cure.)

It's really a lot of what we already have discovered in those URLs. But
the 2nd suggestion does say you may need to be "Client for Microsoft
Networks" (not "Windows logon", as I think you said you are)...

.......Quote 2nd Help Screen.........
Is the Microsoft Client for Microsoft Networks installed?

Problems can occur if you have installed Dial-Up Networking, but have
not installed the Microsoft Client for Microsoft Networks.

To verify that the Client for Microsoft Networks is installed on your
computer

1. Click Start, point to Settings, click Control Panel,
and then double-click Network.
2. On the Configuration tab, verify that Client for Microsoft
Networks
appears in the list of installed components.

To install the Client for Microsoft Networks if it is not already
installed

1. Click Start, point to Settings, click Control Panel,
and then double-click Network.
2. Click Add.
3. Click Client, and then click Add.
4. Under Manufacturers, click Microsoft.
5. Under Network Clients, click Client for Microsoft Networks,
click OK, and then click OK again.
6. Restart your computer when you are prompted to do so.
........EOQ the Help Screen.............

|>| BTW, this computer greets me with a windows password screen, so be
|>| aware that situation exists, don't know if it matters.
|>
|> It might matter, if both the logon & DUN passwords use the same .pwl
|> (password) file. Then, if your fix is to delete that, you lose both
|> passwords.
|>
|>| Anyway, on seond dialup after reboot, it still didn't save password,
|>| was at Family logon.
|>
|> Here's an article with suggestions...
|> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/148925/en-us
|> Dial-up networking password is not saved
|>
|> Read through it, & post a plan for examination. But I've personally
|> never had to do any of that-- I don't use any passwords, except the
|> one in my NetZero DUN. I don't seem to have the Registry settings
|> that article speaks of (including no ProfilesList), & the only .pwl
|> file I have is Default.pwl. And at Control Panel, Network, I am
|> set... Client for Microsoft Networks, Dial-Up Adapter, & TCP/IP. But
|> I can't swear that is what you should be!
|>
|> So... we must hope Terhune hasn't fallen into a deeper than usual
|> earthquake!
|>
|> Here are other articles, which may/may not precisely apply...
|>
|> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/136833/en-us
|> Cannot Connect to Internet Using MSN as Service Provider
|>
|>
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kben-us152104&Product=
|> w98 How to Prevent a Windows 95, Windows 98, or Windows Me Logon
|> Prompt at Startup
|>
|>
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kben-us148925&Product=
|> w98 Dial-Up Networking Dialog Box Prompts for Domain Name
|>
|>
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kben-us230059&Product=
|> w98 Windows 98/Me Client Cannot Change Password
|>
|>| I changed back to Windows logon. When I did that the other day, it
|>| called for the OS CD, a few days ago, it got files, yet today when I
|>| went back to Windows logon, again it asked for CD, again gets files-
|>| now why does that happen??
|>
|> Not sure. Did it seem to ask for the same files? Can it have wanted
|> to go back to Client for Microsoft Networks?
|>
|>| Anyway, it saved password on a reboot, I shut down, booted up, it
|>| did not save password. I dunno.
|>
|> Read through those articles & try something or just post a plan.
|>
|
| Many thanks for that information. Just today, I configured the
| firewall, loaded the last updates of some utilities, and put the
| desktop away in storage. It is for backup if my main machine needs
| repair. With age and energy situations, I can't keep up with more
| than 2 machines, which I have running now.

OK. You are welcome.

| So I will save that excellent data for the next time I boot up this
| machine, it will come in handy.

Go for those Help screens first thing! There is lots there!

| On my todo list is still that Dell 600 with the wierd video problem,
| some of those suggestions were heavy-duty, so will take time.

Take all the time you need. Terhune is still climbing out the
earthquake, anyhow, looks like-- & has lost 3 poodles & 7 fingernails!

| Thanks again, will post on the Dell later. BTW, I assume your address
| in your sig is invalid?

No. But usually I just tell those who try it to post to the group
instead!

| ms

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[ms]

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in news:eMWJyyGOIHA.2376
@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

>
> To install the Client for Microsoft Networks if it is not already
> installed
>
> 1. Click Start, point to Settings, click Control Panel,
> and then double-click Network.
> 2. Click Add.
> 3. Click Client, and then click Add.
> 4. Under Manufacturers, click Microsoft.
> 5. Under Network Clients, click Client for Microsoft Networks,
> click OK, and then click OK again.
> 6. Restart your computer when you are prompted to do so.
> .......EOQ the Help Screen.............
>
That's just what I need when I next run that machine.

>|>| BTW, this computer greets me with a windows password screen, so be
>|>| aware that situation exists, don't know if it matters.
>|>
>|> It might matter, if both the logon & DUN passwords use the same .pwl
>|> (password) file. Then, if your fix is to delete that, you lose both
>|> passwords.
>|>
>|>| Anyway, on seond dialup after reboot, it still didn't save password,
>|>| was at Family logon.
>|>
>|> Here's an article with suggestions...
>|> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/148925/en-us
>|> Dial-up networking password is not saved
>|>
>|> Read through it, & post a plan for examination. But I've personally
>|> never had to do any of that-- I don't use any passwords, except the
>|> one in my NetZero DUN. I don't seem to have the Registry settings
>|> that article speaks of (including no ProfilesList), & the only .pwl
>|> file I have is Default.pwl. And at Control Panel, Network, I am
>|> set... Client for Microsoft Networks, Dial-Up Adapter, & TCP/IP. But
>|> I can't swear that is what you should be!
>|>
>|> So... we must hope Terhune hasn't fallen into a deeper than usual
>|> earthquake!
>|>
>|> Here are other articles, which may/may not precisely apply...
>|>
>|> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/136833/en-us
>|> Cannot Connect to Internet Using MSN as Service Provider
>|>
>|>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kben-us152104&Product=
>|> w98 How to Prevent a Windows 95, Windows 98, or Windows Me Logon
>|> Prompt at Startup
>|>
>|>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kben-us148925&Product=
>|> w98 Dial-Up Networking Dialog Box Prompts for Domain Name
>|>
>|>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kben-us230059&Product=
>|> w98 Windows 98/Me Client Cannot Change Password
>|>
>|>| I changed back to Windows logon. When I did that the other day, it
>|>| called for the OS CD, a few days ago, it got files, yet today when I
>|>| went back to Windows logon, again it asked for CD, again gets files-
>|>| now why does that happen??
>|>
>|> Not sure. Did it seem to ask for the same files? Can it have wanted
>|> to go back to Client for Microsoft Networks?
>|>
>|>| Anyway, it saved password on a reboot, I shut down, booted up, it
>|>| did not save password. I dunno.
>|>
>|> Read through those articles & try something or just post a plan.
>|>
>|
>| Many thanks for that information. Just today, I configured the
>| firewall, loaded the last updates of some utilities, and put the
>| desktop away in storage. It is for backup if my main machine needs
>| repair. With age and energy situations, I can't keep up with more
>| than 2 machines, which I have running now.
>
> OK. You are welcome.
>
>| So I will save that excellent data for the next time I boot up this
>| machine, it will come in handy.
>
> Go for those Help screens first thing! There is lots there!
>
>| On my todo list is still that Dell 600 with the wierd video problem,
>| some of those suggestions were heavy-duty, so will take time.
>
> Take all the time you need. Terhune is still climbing out the
> earthquake, anyhow, looks like-- & has lost 3 poodles & 7 fingernails!
>
>| Thanks again, will post on the Dell later. BTW, I assume your address
>| in your sig is invalid?
>
> No. But usually I just tell those who try it to post to the group
> instead!
>

Thanks again for the info. When I start with my Dell 600, it will be a
new thread, hope to see you there. There's one good thing with used
computers, I sure learn a lot.

ms

 

[PCR]

ms wrote:
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in news:eMWJyyGOIHA.2376
| @TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:
|
|>
|> To install the Client for Microsoft Networks if it is not already
|> installed
|>
|> 1. Click Start, point to Settings, click Control Panel,
|> and then double-click Network.
|> 2. Click Add.
|> 3. Click Client, and then click Add.
|> 4. Under Manufacturers, click Microsoft.
|> 5. Under Network Clients, click Client for Microsoft Networks,
|> click OK, and then click OK again.
|> 6. Restart your computer when you are prompted to do so.
|> .......EOQ the Help Screen.............
|>
| That's just what I need when I next run that machine.

Uhuh. Very good. There are 6 or 7 help screens for modems in the Windows
Help Troubleshooter.

....snip
|>| Thanks again, will post on the Dell later. BTW, I assume your
|>| address in your sig is invalid?
|>
|> No. But usually I just tell those who try it to post to the group
|> instead!
|>
|
| Thanks again for the info. When I start with my Dell 600, it will be a
| new thread, hope to see you there. There's one good thing with used
| computers, I sure learn a lot.

You are welcome. OK, for sure, if I think I have something to help, I
will post it.

| ms

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net