Vista and the malware situation

[Alias]

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Again you are off topic. What on earth is the matter with you? This is
>>>>> a Vista forum.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In name only. New to Usenet, are ya?
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>>
>>> Translation: alias is linux lying troll and doesn't give a sh*t about
>>> anyone else except himself.
>>
>>
>> If that were true, I wouldn't post here.
>
> No, that is why you post here you fukkin linux lyin troll!

Liar.

>>
>>> He is practicing good "karma"...LOL!
>>> Frank
>>
>>
>> Just curious, Frank, what is your definition of "Karma"?
>
> No you're not curious. You're incompetent, a liar and POS as*hole.
> So tells us all about how you practice good "karma", ok?
> This should be good!
> Frank

I didn't think you knew what karma is.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Steve Thackery wrote:
>> Then you have been completely irresponsible and stupid. It's people like
>> you who are responsible for all the SPAM and trojans washing round the
>> internet. You have absolutely NO WAY of knowing whether your computer has
>> been infected or not.
>
> Hah! You prat! Read my message: I did a full Kaspersky scan after playing
> around on the so-called dodgy site.
>
> In the previous thread I described how I've done three on-line scans each
> year from the major AV vendors, and they have all reported a completely
> clean PC. Ditto with PC Tools Anti-Spyware.
>
> Don't slag people off without knowing the facts.
>
> I'm prepared to bet that you've got NO experimental evidence whatsoever to
> demonstrate the need for AV software. You're just mindlessly repeating the
> marketing paradigm.
>
> I, on the other hand, have done the experiment and got the data. I CAN
> speak from the evidence.
>
> SteveT
>
>

I don't believe you. I think you're lying through your teeth.

Alias

 

[Frank]

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again you are off topic. What on earth is the matter with you?
>>>>>> This is
>>>>>> a Vista forum.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In name only. New to Usenet, are ya?
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Translation: alias is linux lying troll and doesn't give a sh*t
>>>> about anyone else except himself.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If that were true, I wouldn't post here.
>>
>>
>> No, that is why you post here you fukkin linux lyin troll!
>
>
> Liar.
>
>>>
>>>> He is practicing good "karma"...LOL!
>>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just curious, Frank, what is your definition of "Karma"?
>>
>>
>> No you're not curious. You're incompetent, a liar and POS as*hole.
>> So tells us all about how you practice good "karma", ok?
>> This should be good!
>> Frank
>
>
> I didn't think you knew what karma is.
>
> Alias

It's apparent you have a warped idea of what karma is you stupid lying
POS fool.
Frank

 

[Frank]

Alias wrote:

> Steve Thackery wrote:
>
>>> Then you have been completely irresponsible and stupid. It's people
>>> like you who are responsible for all the SPAM and trojans washing
>>> round the internet. You have absolutely NO WAY of knowing whether
>>> your computer has been infected or not.
>>
>>
>> Hah! You prat! Read my message: I did a full Kaspersky scan after
>> playing around on the so-called dodgy site.
>>
>> In the previous thread I described how I've done three on-line scans
>> each year from the major AV vendors, and they have all reported a
>> completely clean PC. Ditto with PC Tools Anti-Spyware.
>>
>> Don't slag people off without knowing the facts.
>>
>> I'm prepared to bet that you've got NO experimental evidence
>> whatsoever to demonstrate the need for AV software. You're just
>> mindlessly repeating the marketing paradigm.
>>
>> I, on the other hand, have done the experiment and got the data. I
>> CAN speak from the evidence.
>>
>> SteveT
>>
>
> I don't believe you. I think you're lying through your teeth.
>
> Alias

Nobody believes one word from a known lying POS atheist commie as*hole
like you.
Get lost bozo.
Frank

 

[Alias]

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Again you are off topic. What on earth is the matter with you?
>>>>>>> This is
>>>>>>> a Vista forum.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In name only. New to Usenet, are ya?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Translation: alias is linux lying troll and doesn't give a sh*t
>>>>> about anyone else except himself.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If that were true, I wouldn't post here.
>>>
>>>
>>> No, that is why you post here you fukkin linux lyin troll!
>>
>>
>> Liar.
>>
>>>>
>>>>> He is practicing good "karma"...LOL!
>>>>> Frank
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just curious, Frank, what is your definition of "Karma"?
>>>
>>>
>>> No you're not curious. You're incompetent, a liar and POS as*hole.
>>> So tells us all about how you practice good "karma", ok?
>>> This should be good!
>>> Frank
>>
>>
>> I didn't think you knew what karma is.
>>
>> Alias
>
> It's apparent you have a warped idea of what karma is you stupid lying
> POS fool.
> Frank

I didn't think you knew what karma is being as all you can do is insult
and gave no definition. Lying and insulting people is not good karma,
Frankie boy.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Steve Thackery wrote:
>>
>>>> Then you have been completely irresponsible and stupid. It's people
>>>> like you who are responsible for all the SPAM and trojans washing
>>>> round the internet. You have absolutely NO WAY of knowing whether
>>>> your computer has been infected or not.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hah! You prat! Read my message: I did a full Kaspersky scan after
>>> playing around on the so-called dodgy site.
>>>
>>> In the previous thread I described how I've done three on-line scans
>>> each year from the major AV vendors, and they have all reported a
>>> completely clean PC. Ditto with PC Tools Anti-Spyware.
>>>
>>> Don't slag people off without knowing the facts.
>>>
>>> I'm prepared to bet that you've got NO experimental evidence
>>> whatsoever to demonstrate the need for AV software. You're just
>>> mindlessly repeating the marketing paradigm.
>>>
>>> I, on the other hand, have done the experiment and got the data. I
>>> CAN speak from the evidence.
>>>
>>> SteveT
>>>
>>
>> I don't believe you. I think you're lying through your teeth.
>>
>> Alias
>
> Nobody believes one word from a known lying POS atheist commie as*hole
> like you.

A lie.

> Get lost bozo.
> Frank

Like I have said so many times, I will be here long after you've crashed
and burned.

Alias

 

[Frank]

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Again you are off topic. What on earth is the matter with you?
>>>>>>>> This is
>>>>>>>> a Vista forum.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In name only. New to Usenet, are ya?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Translation: alias is linux lying troll and doesn't give a sh*t
>>>>>> about anyone else except himself.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If that were true, I wouldn't post here.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, that is why you post here you fukkin linux lyin troll!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Liar.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> He is practicing good "karma"...LOL!
>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just curious, Frank, what is your definition of "Karma"?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No you're not curious. You're incompetent, a liar and POS as*hole.
>>>> So tells us all about how you practice good "karma", ok?
>>>> This should be good!
>>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I didn't think you knew what karma is.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>>
>> It's apparent you have a warped idea of what karma is you stupid lying
>> POS fool.
>> Frank
>
>
> I didn't think you knew what karma is being as all you can do is insult
> and gave no definition. Lying and insulting people is not good karma,
> Frankie boy.
>
> Alias

Then you are not practicing "good karma' right.
We all knew that.
Frank

 

[Frank]

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Steve Thackery wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Then you have been completely irresponsible and stupid. It's people
>>>>> like you who are responsible for all the SPAM and trojans washing
>>>>> round the internet. You have absolutely NO WAY of knowing whether
>>>>> your computer has been infected or not.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hah! You prat! Read my message: I did a full Kaspersky scan after
>>>> playing around on the so-called dodgy site.
>>>>
>>>> In the previous thread I described how I've done three on-line scans
>>>> each year from the major AV vendors, and they have all reported a
>>>> completely clean PC. Ditto with PC Tools Anti-Spyware.
>>>>
>>>> Don't slag people off without knowing the facts.
>>>>
>>>> I'm prepared to bet that you've got NO experimental evidence
>>>> whatsoever to demonstrate the need for AV software. You're just
>>>> mindlessly repeating the marketing paradigm.
>>>>
>>>> I, on the other hand, have done the experiment and got the data. I
>>>> CAN speak from the evidence.
>>>>
>>>> SteveT
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't believe you. I think you're lying through your teeth.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>>
>> Nobody believes one word from a known lying POS atheist commie as*hole
>> like you.
>
>
> A lie.
>
>> Get lost bozo.
>> Frank
>
>
> Like I have said so many times, I will be here long after you've crashed
> and burned.
>
> Alias

More glass in your mouth. You must really like the taste of that glass.
Frank

 

[dennis@home]

"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fjjm74$gri$1@aioe.org...
> dennis@home wrote:
>>
>>
>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:zB07j.8183$jq2.1842@pd7urf1no...
>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>
>>>> However only Linux users actually think that all bots are windows.
>>>> There are Linux bots out there and the users never check to see if they
>>>> are infected as they are like you and think they are invulnerable.
>>>> If you don't believe me start here http://www.honeynet.org/papers/bots/
>>>> and do some research.
>>>
>>> I think it's you that needs to do more research. Just googling something
>>> with a keyword and finding an article that essentially says that those
>>> bots
>>> listed target Windoze boxes doesn't say much for your research
>>> abilities.
>>> Please find an article where a Linux box is infected by one of the
>>> mentioned bots and how that is done. Good luck.
>>
>> Oh look the head in sand method of security.
>
> Oh look, Dennis can't provide an article.

Oh look Alias can't think of a better reply.

What would be the point of providing you or nostop an article?
You choose not to believe.
You don't think there are any vulnerabilities in Ubuntu even though they are
on their bug tracker.
Just keep your head in the sand you will be fine.

 

[dennis@home]

"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fjjm9a$gri$2@aioe.org...
> dennis@home wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:fjj673$216$2@aioe.org...
>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:fjhfl2$epo$4@aioe.org...
>>>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:fjh5l4$ibc$2@aioe.org...
>>>>>>> DanS wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Erich Kohl" <synth.virtuoso@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:OUJ6j.69530$RX.21309
>>>>>>>> @newssvr11.news.prodigy.net:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <SNIP>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just because you use a Wintel PC instead of a Mac (or Linux) doesn’t
>>>>>>>>> necessarily mean that malicious software is going to hold you
>>>>>>>>> hostage
>>>>>>>>> all the time, and defending yourself doesn’t have to be an
>>>>>>>>> expensive
>>>>>>>>> endeavor either. Simply use common sense and exercise wise
>>>>>>>>> computing
>>>>>>>>> habits, and you can still have a fun time being productive with
>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>> computer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've had the exact same experience with Windows XP.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why ? Because I don't use IE or OE. Simple as that. Seems to be
>>>>>>>> that the single greatest cause of problems is/was IE <= v6.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And Windows Live Messenger or eMule. Open a malware attachment in
>>>>>>> *any* email program with Windows, and you're fuçked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And that differs on linux how?
>>>>>
>>>>> You really don't know? LOL!
>>>>
>>>> Go on tell us.
>>>
>>> Last I checked, .exes don't work in Linux. If you double click on them,
>>> Linux just says "WTF?"
>>
>> So?
>> What has that to do with opening an email attachment.
>
> LOL! What else would be in the attachment?
>
>> Do you tar -x stuff?
>
> No, I don't.

OK so run "sudo find / -name tar -exec rm -f {} \" and remove some
bloatware then.

 

[NoStop]

dennis@home wrote:

>
>
> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fjjm9a$gri$2@aioe.org...
>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:fjj673$216$2@aioe.org...
>>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:fjhfl2$epo$4@aioe.org...
>>>>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:fjh5l4$ibc$2@aioe.org...
>>>>>>>> DanS wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Erich Kohl" <synth.virtuoso@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:OUJ6j.69530$RX.21309
>>>>>>>>> @newssvr11.news.prodigy.net:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <SNIP>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just because you use a Wintel PC instead of a Mac (or Linux)
>>>>>>>>>> doesn’t necessarily mean that malicious software is going to hold
>>>>>>>>>> you hostage
>>>>>>>>>> all the time, and defending yourself doesn’t have to be an
>>>>>>>>>> expensive
>>>>>>>>>> endeavor either. Simply use common sense and exercise wise
>>>>>>>>>> computing
>>>>>>>>>> habits, and you can still have a fun time being productive with
>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>> computer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've had the exact same experience with Windows XP.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why ? Because I don't use IE or OE. Simple as that. Seems to be
>>>>>>>>> that the single greatest cause of problems is/was IE <= v6.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And Windows Live Messenger or eMule. Open a malware attachment in
>>>>>>>> *any* email program with Windows, and you're fuçked.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And that differs on linux how?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You really don't know? LOL!
>>>>>
>>>>> Go on tell us.
>>>>
>>>> Last I checked, .exes don't work in Linux. If you double click on them,
>>>> Linux just says "WTF?"
>>>
>>> So?
>>> What has that to do with opening an email attachment.
>>
>> LOL! What else would be in the attachment?
>>
>>> Do you tar -x stuff?
>>
>> No, I don't.
>
> OK so run "sudo find / -name tar -exec rm -f {} \" and remove some
> bloatware then.

I tried that but Vista just crashed.

Cheers.

PS. Frankie Boy, do read my sig. You'll find it helpful.

--
Remove Vista Activation Completely ...
http://tinyurl.com/2w8qqo

Frank - seek help immediately! Visit ...
http://www.binsa.org/

 

[dennis@home]

"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:Bhi7j.168$Mw6.44@pd7urf2no...
> dennis@home wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:fjjm9a$gri$2@aioe.org...
>>> dennis@home wrote:

8<

>>>> Do you tar -x stuff?
>>>
>>> No, I don't.
>>
>> OK so run "sudo find / -name tar -exec rm -f {} \" and remove some
>> bloatware then.
>
> I tried that but Vista just crashed.

Do you lie often?
Or is just all the bad stuff about vista and all the good stuff about
Ubuntu?

 

[forty-nine]

"Alias" <akaalias@nospam.com> wrote in message news:fjjm5i$grg$1@aioe.org...
> Bob Campbell wrote:
>> In article <fjgr87$mvi$1@aioe.org>, Alias <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote:
>>
>
> Very true but a lot of people (most?) don't know about that and can only
> use the computer and not maintain it at all. This computer (XP Pro) had
> not been defragged since its installation (over 10,000 fragmented files,
> even XP recommended a defrag). I asked her about it and she asked, "What
> is defragging?" I asked her why her firewall was turned off and she
> asked, "What's a firewall?". I asked her why her resident AV scanner was
> disabled and she asked, "What's an anti virus program?" She also didn't
> have a clue as to what Windows Updates was or how to use it. She thought
> that Windows were something that reside on the wall of her apartment.
>
> Now that she has Ubuntu, she knows to always click on the little orange
> star if it pops up and to only install apps from add/remove. She need
> not know anything else.
>
> Alias


Oh, that poor woman.
Nice Christmas present....Alias...you steal the Tree on the way out ?

 

[Frank]

NoStop wrote:

>
> PS. Frankie Boy, do read my sig. You'll find it helpful.
>


I see that I, along with RS now own you!
Wonderful!
Frank

oh, I'd never, ever visit any url associated with you.
Go spam somewhere else loser.

 

[ArameFarpado]

Em Domingo, 9 de Dezembro de 2007 19:22, dennis@home escreveu:
>>
>> And Windows Live Messenger or eMule. Open a malware attachment in *any*
>> email program with Windows, and you're fuçked.
>
> And that differs on linux how?

http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/items/viruses/index.php

 

[Michael Palumbo]

"ArameFarpado" <a-farpado.spam@netcabo.pt> wrote in message
news:fjkj5n$69h$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> Em Domingo, 9 de Dezembro de 2007 19:22, dennis@home escreveu:
>>>
>>> And Windows Live Messenger or eMule. Open a malware attachment in *any*
>>> email program with Windows, and you're fuçked.
>>
>> And that differs on linux how?
>
> http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/items/viruses/index.php

Just read that page, not that I didn't already have a pretty good grasp of
Linux, I use it daily, so this wasn't news to me personally.

Just struck me funny . . .

"Every time you request to do something that has to do with the system, an
administrator password is required (and if you're not an administrator on
this system, you simply can't do it). Viruses can't just go around and
delete or modify what they want in the system they don't have the
authorization for that. "

The very same behavior that so many people complain about in Vista . . .
perhaps this is why UAC doesn't bother me one bit in Vista? I'm so used to
similar behavior in Linux . . . hmm . . .

Mic

 

[Frank]

ArameFarpado wrote:
> Em Domingo, 9 de Dezembro de 2007 19:22, dennis@home escreveu:
>
>>>And Windows Live Messenger or eMule. Open a malware attachment in *any*
>>>email program with Windows, and you're fuçked.
>>
>>And that differs on linux how?
>
>
> http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/items/viruses/index.php

You actually believe that crock of lying sh*t don't you!
Frank

 

[ArameFarpado]

Em Segunda, 10 de Dezembro de 2007 23:57, Michael Palumbo escreveu:

>
> The very same behavior that so many people complain about in Vista . . .
> perhaps this is why UAC doesn't bother me one bit in Vista? I'm so used
> to similar behavior in Linux . . . hmm . . .
>
> Mic

Windows permission system is useless, lots of malware programs, after
activated by a non-previleged user... let's say user=peter, turns
user=SYSTEM right after activation, and the user SYSTEM has more powers
than the administrator.
don't ask me how they do it, but i've seen lot's of malware doing this stuff
when attacking windows systems. this previlege escalation fenomena is not
so rare and it is instantaneous.

i might not use windows at home any more, but i have a network of more than
200 Pc's at work, and i've allready have to clean infections that would not
taken place if windows permission system really worked as it should.

 

[ArameFarpado]

Em Terça, 11 de Dezembro de 2007 00:10, Frank escreveu:

> ArameFarpado wrote:
>> Em Domingo, 9 de Dezembro de 2007 19:22, dennis@home escreveu:
>>
>>>>And Windows Live Messenger or eMule. Open a malware attachment in *any*
>>>>email program with Windows, and you're fuçked.
>>>
>>>And that differs on linux how?
>>
>>
>> http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/items/viruses/index.php
>
> You actually believe that crock of lying sh*t don't you!
> Frank

Don't need to... thank you very much.

 

[Alias]

Frank wrote:
> ArameFarpado wrote:
>> Em Domingo, 9 de Dezembro de 2007 19:22, dennis@home escreveu:
>>
>>>> And Windows Live Messenger or eMule. Open a malware attachment in *any*
>>>> email program with Windows, and you're fuçked.
>>>
>>> And that differs on linux how?
>>
>>
>> http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/items/viruses/index.php
>
> You actually believe that crock of lying sh*t don't you!
> Frank

Frank's knee-jerk, Pavlov dog reaction: insult the messenger in a lame
attempt to distract the message. The pathetic thing is that Frank
doesn't realize what he's doing and says to himself, after posting a
message like the one above, "That told em!"

Now, he'll jump on this post and lie and insult me. The question is will
he do it five minutes after this post hits Usenet or ten.

Alias