How can Microsoft be proud to market this drivel !

[Alias]

Kerry Brown wrote:
> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
> news:u9nl1pvvHHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>> Back to the present. Use Ubuntu and never worry about a virus, root
>> kit or any other malware. http://www.ubuntu.com/
>>
>> Alias
>
>
> Where do you think the term "root kit" came from? Is there a root user
> in Windows?
>

Hence the need for a firewall which Ubuntu provides. Oops.

Alias

 

[Frank]

Alias wrote:


>
> Got proof? Didn't think so.
>

----------------------------------
Got proof it is? Didn't think so?
You're pathetic!
Frank

 

[Alias]

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Got proof? Didn't think so.
>>
>
> ----------------------------------
> Got proof it is? Didn't think so?
> You're pathetic!
> Frank

Um, insults and a lack of reading comprehension on your part do not
qualify as proof.

Alias

 

[Frank]

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Got proof? Didn't think so.
>>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------
>> Got proof it is? Didn't think so?
>> You're pathetic!
>> Frank
>
>
> Um, insults and a lack of reading comprehension on your part do not
> qualify as proof.
>
> Alias
--------------------------

How stupid can one person be? hahaha...no need to ask. Hey butt munch,
prove your statement or STFU!
Frank

 

[Frank]

Alias wrote:

> Kerry Brown wrote:
>
>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>> news:u9nl1pvvHHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>
>>> Back to the present. Use Ubuntu and never worry about a virus, root
>>> kit or any other malware. http://www.ubuntu.com/
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>>
>>
>> Where do you think the term "root kit" came from? Is there a root user
>> in Windows?
>>
>
> Hence the need for a firewall which Ubuntu provides. Oops.
>
> Alias

Oops...Oops...Oops...could you possibly shove your feet any further down
your throat?
Try harder!
Oops!
You're a real side show freak.
Frank

 

[Mike Hall - MVP]

Because the user gives it permission, albeit unwittingly? How do you think
systems get infected?

Re proof, two of us have provided reading material from Linux sources.. can
you not read and comprehend them?


"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
news:uxAiWXxvHHA.4384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> MICHAEL wrote:
>>
>> * Alias:
>>> MICHAEL wrote:
>>>> * Alias:
>>>>> Back to the present. Use Ubuntu and never worry about a virus, root
>>>>> kit or any other
>>>>> malware. http://www.ubuntu.com/
>>>> http://www.sans.org/reading_room/whitepapers/linux/901.php
>>>> Linux RootKits For Beginners - From Prevention to Removal
>>>>
>>>> One day while reading a mail list for the Linux Users Group in my
>>>> hometown I discovered a call
>>>> for help. It was a posting from a novice Linux user with a disturbing
>>>> issue. While doing some
>>>> routine checks on a Linux system, he found a user that had been added
>>>> to the system with the
>>>> user id of 0 (root). His first thought was that it might be a rootkit.
>>>> He wanted to know what
>>>> he could do to verify it was a rootkit and how to remove it from the
>>>> system. He further asked
>>>> for suggestions on preventative measures to ensure this kind of attack
>>>> does not reoccur. That
>>>> situation prompted me to write this paper to an understanding of
>>>> rootkits and its effects. This
>>>> paper will also discuss how to monitor for a rootkit, and the steps
>>>> that need to be taken to
>>>> remove one.
>>>>
>>> I never said that a firewall wasn't necessary. Ubuntu comes with one
>>> built-in. I would also recommend a router hard firewall.
>>
>> "Use Ubuntu and never worry about a virus, root kit
>> or any other malware." -Alias
>>
>> You said "never", you were wrong.
>>
>> "Absolute truth" is for absolute fools.
>>
>>
>> -Michael
>
> Is there an echo in here? If one has Ubuntu that comes with a firewall and
> a router with a firewall how, pray tell, will anyone install a root kit?
>
> Alias

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

 

[Alias]

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Got proof? Didn't think so.
>>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------
>>> Got proof it is? Didn't think so?
>>> You're pathetic!
>>> Frank
>>
>>
>> Um, insults and a lack of reading comprehension on your part do not
>> qualify as proof.
>>
>> Alias
> --------------------------
>
> How stupid can one person be? hahaha...no need to ask. Hey butt munch,
> prove your statement or STFU!
> Frank

Um, insults and a lack of reading comprehension on your part do not
qualify as proof.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Kerry Brown wrote:
>>
>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>>> news:u9nl1pvvHHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Back to the present. Use Ubuntu and never worry about a virus, root
>>>> kit or any other malware. http://www.ubuntu.com/
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Where do you think the term "root kit" came from? Is there a root
>>> user in Windows?
>>>
>>
>> Hence the need for a firewall which Ubuntu provides. Oops.
>>
>> Alias
>
> Oops...Oops...Oops...could you possibly shove your feet any further down
> your throat?

Um, I never said a firewall wasn't necessary and thinking about it isn't
either being as it comes bundled with Ubuntu.

> Try harder!
> Oops!
> You're a real side show freak.
> Frank

Word has it that you're a pedophile.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
> Because the user gives it permission, albeit unwittingly? How do you
> think systems get infected?

There are many ways that Windows boxes get infected.

>
> Re proof, two of us have provided reading material from Linux sources..
> can you not read and comprehend them?

Yeah, but no one case was sited.

Alias, still waiting for proof, not theories.
>
>
> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
> news:uxAiWXxvHHA.4384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> MICHAEL wrote:
>>>
>>> * Alias:
>>>> MICHAEL wrote:
>>>>> * Alias:
>>>>>> Back to the present. Use Ubuntu and never worry about a virus,
>>>>>> root kit or any other
>>>>>> malware. http://www.ubuntu.com/
>>>>> http://www.sans.org/reading_room/whitepapers/linux/901.php
>>>>> Linux RootKits For Beginners - From Prevention to Removal
>>>>>
>>>>> One day while reading a mail list for the Linux Users Group in my
>>>>> hometown I discovered a call
>>>>> for help. It was a posting from a novice Linux user with a
>>>>> disturbing issue. While doing some
>>>>> routine checks on a Linux system, he found a user that had been
>>>>> added to the system with the
>>>>> user id of 0 (root). His first thought was that it might be a
>>>>> rootkit. He wanted to know what
>>>>> he could do to verify it was a rootkit and how to remove it from
>>>>> the system. He further asked
>>>>> for suggestions on preventative measures to ensure this kind of
>>>>> attack does not reoccur. That
>>>>> situation prompted me to write this paper to an understanding of
>>>>> rootkits and its effects. This
>>>>> paper will also discuss how to monitor for a rootkit, and the steps
>>>>> that need to be taken to
>>>>> remove one.
>>>>>
>>>> I never said that a firewall wasn't necessary. Ubuntu comes with one
>>>> built-in. I would also recommend a router hard firewall.
>>>
>>> "Use Ubuntu and never worry about a virus, root kit
>>> or any other malware." -Alias
>>>
>>> You said "never", you were wrong.
>>>
>>> "Absolute truth" is for absolute fools.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Michael
>>
>> Is there an echo in here? If one has Ubuntu that comes with a firewall
>> and a router with a firewall how, pray tell, will anyone install a
>> root kit?
>>
>> Alias
>

 

[MICHAEL]

* Alias:
> MICHAEL wrote:
>> * Alias:
>>> MICHAEL wrote:
>>>> * Alias:
>>>>> Back to the present. Use Ubuntu and never worry about a virus, root kit or any other
>>>>> malware. http://www.ubuntu.com/
>>>> http://www.sans.org/reading_room/whitepapers/linux/901.php Linux RootKits For
>>>> Beginners - From Prevention to Removal
>>>>
>>>> One day while reading a mail list for the Linux Users Group in my hometown I
>>>> discovered a call for help. It was a posting from a novice Linux user with a
>>>> disturbing issue. While doing some routine checks on a Linux system, he found a user
>>>> that had been added to the system with the user id of 0 (root). His first thought was
>>>> that it might be a rootkit. He wanted to know what he could do to verify it was a
>>>> rootkit and how to remove it from the system. He further asked for suggestions on
>>>> preventative measures to ensure this kind of attack does not reoccur. That situation
>>>> prompted me to write this paper to an understanding of rootkits and its effects. This
>>>> paper will also discuss how to monitor for a rootkit, and the steps that need to be
>>>> taken to remove one.
>>>>
>>> I never said that a firewall wasn't necessary. Ubuntu comes with one built-in. I would
>>> also recommend a router hard firewall.
>> "Use Ubuntu and never worry about a virus, root kit or any other malware." -Alias
>>
>> You said "never", you were wrong.
>>
>> "Absolute truth" is for absolute fools.
>>
>>
>> -Michael
>
> Is there an echo in here?

Only the echoes of your foolish nonsense.

> If one has Ubuntu that comes with a firewall

So does Vista.

> and a router with a firewall how, pray tell, will anyone install a root kit?

You never stated that in your original reply.

"Use Ubuntu and never worry about a virus, root kit
or any other malware." -Alias

I see no mention of using additional security measures.

Now you bring up the "ifs". If a Window user properly
secures their machine, they will not suffer from rootkits, either.

Amazing that there are programs for Linux rootkit removal
when there are no Linux machines getting infected.

Amazing such warnings, as the below, exist if no Linux users were being
infected.

http://www.juniper.net/security/auto/vulnerabilities/vuln734.html
Severity: HIGH
Description:
The Satori Linux Rootkit is a collection of publicly available Trojan utilities that target
Linux systems. It is also known as Linux Rootkit 4 and is distributed by The Crackers Layer.
Based on the original Rootkit Trojan utilities, Satori provides similar functionality it
replaces system utilities with backdoor versions that allow attackers to steal system
information, monitor activities, spawn root shells, and take control of a target machine.

Satori is either installed by other Trojans or worms, or by attackers exploiting other system
vulnerabilities. An attacker may also be able to trick users into installing Satori onto their
systems.

Affected Products:
Linux Kernel Many
--------------------------------------

Amazing that there's another Linux Rootkit detector,
RKProfiler LX, if there are no Linux rootkit infections.
These people/programmers/companies must just like
to waste their time coming up with these useless products.

http://weblog.infoworld.com/securityadviser/archives/2007/02/new_linux_rootk.html
New Linux rootkit detector.
RKProfiler LX is divided into two parts: a data collection component called "Rootkit Profiler
Module" (RKPmod) and a data interpretation component called "Rootkit Profiler Console"
(RKPconsole).

RKPmod is a kernel module that gets loaded on the system that should be checked for the
presence of a kernel rootkit. There are other ways to perform data collection, but currently
only this approach is publicly available.

http://www.trapkit.de/research/rkprofiler/rkplx/rkplx.html
RKProfiler LX currently supports the following Linux Distributions:

- SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 (x86, 32-bit)
- SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 (x86, 32-bit)
- Ubuntu 7.04 (x86, 32-bit)
- openSUSE 10.2 (x86, 32-bit)


Amazing how foolish you really are.

Carry on.


-Michael

 

[Alias]

MICHAEL wrote:
>
> * Alias:
>> MICHAEL wrote:
>>> * Alias:
>>>> MICHAEL wrote:
>>>>> * Alias:
>>>>>> Back to the present. Use Ubuntu and never worry about a virus, root kit or any other
>>>>>> malware. http://www.ubuntu.com/
>>>>> http://www.sans.org/reading_room/whitepapers/linux/901.php Linux RootKits For
>>>>> Beginners - From Prevention to Removal
>>>>>
>>>>> One day while reading a mail list for the Linux Users Group in my hometown I
>>>>> discovered a call for help. It was a posting from a novice Linux user with a
>>>>> disturbing issue. While doing some routine checks on a Linux system, he found a user
>>>>> that had been added to the system with the user id of 0 (root). His first thought was
>>>>> that it might be a rootkit. He wanted to know what he could do to verify it was a
>>>>> rootkit and how to remove it from the system. He further asked for suggestions on
>>>>> preventative measures to ensure this kind of attack does not reoccur. That situation
>>>>> prompted me to write this paper to an understanding of rootkits and its effects. This
>>>>> paper will also discuss how to monitor for a rootkit, and the steps that need to be
>>>>> taken to remove one.
>>>>>
>>>> I never said that a firewall wasn't necessary. Ubuntu comes with one built-in. I would
>>>> also recommend a router hard firewall.
>>> "Use Ubuntu and never worry about a virus, root kit or any other malware." -Alias
>>>
>>> You said "never", you were wrong.
>>>
>>> "Absolute truth" is for absolute fools.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Michael
>> Is there an echo in here?
>
> Only the echoes of your foolish nonsense.
>
>> If one has Ubuntu that comes with a firewall
>
> So does Vista.
>
>> and a router with a firewall how, pray tell, will anyone install a root kit?
>
> You never stated that in your original reply.
>
> "Use Ubuntu and never worry about a virus, root kit
> or any other malware." -Alias
>
> I see no mention of using additional security measures.

No need. A firewall is automatically installed when you install Ubuntu.

Snip theories and possibilities.

Alias

 

[MICHAEL]

* Alias:
> Frank wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Kerry Brown wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>>>> news:u9nl1pvvHHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>> Back to the present. Use Ubuntu and never worry about a virus, root
>>>>> kit or any other malware. http://www.ubuntu.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Where do you think the term "root kit" came from? Is there a root
>>>> user in Windows?
>>>>
>>> Hence the need for a firewall which Ubuntu provides. Oops.
>>>
>>> Alias
>> Oops...Oops...Oops...could you possibly shove your feet any further down
>> your throat?
>
> Um, I never said a firewall wasn't necessary and thinking about it isn't
> either being as it comes bundled with Ubuntu.

Vista also comes with a firewall.

>> Try harder!
>> Oops!
>> You're a real side show freak.
>> Frank

I removed the your other remark about Frank,
you should remove the post.

I would have thought such was not even possible from you.


-Michael

 

[Mike Hall - MVP]

He'll get no more responses from me.. I don't associate with anybody who
makes remarks like that..


"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
news:%23YRiWuxvHHA.312@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
>
> * Alias:
>> Frank wrote:
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kerry Brown wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>>>>> news:u9nl1pvvHHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Back to the present. Use Ubuntu and never worry about a virus, root
>>>>>> kit or any other malware. http://www.ubuntu.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Where do you think the term "root kit" came from? Is there a root
>>>>> user in Windows?
>>>>>
>>>> Hence the need for a firewall which Ubuntu provides. Oops.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>> Oops...Oops...Oops...could you possibly shove your feet any further down
>>> your throat?
>>
>> Um, I never said a firewall wasn't necessary and thinking about it isn't
>> either being as it comes bundled with Ubuntu.
>
> Vista also comes with a firewall.
>
>>> Try harder!
>>> Oops!
>>> You're a real side show freak.
>>> Frank
>
> I removed the your other remark about Frank,
> you should remove the post.
>
> I would have thought such was not even possible from you.
>
>
> -Michael

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

 

[Frank]

Alias wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Got proof? Didn't think so.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------
>>>> Got proof it is? Didn't think so?
>>>> You're pathetic!
>>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Um, insults and a lack of reading comprehension on your part do not
>>> qualify as proof.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>> --------------------------
>>
>> How stupid can one person be? hahaha...no need to ask. Hey butt munch,
>> prove your statement or STFU!
>> Frank
>
>
> Um, insults and a lack of reading comprehension on your part do not
> qualify as proof.
>
> Alias

Stop back pedaling bozo and just provide the proof...or else craw back
under that rock you keep coming out from under and stay there!
Frank

 

[Kerry Brown]

"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
news:OL0nsXxvHHA.4384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Kerry Brown wrote:
>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
>> news:u9nl1pvvHHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> Back to the present. Use Ubuntu and never worry about a virus, root kit
>>> or any other malware. http://www.ubuntu.com/
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>>
>> Where do you think the term "root kit" came from? Is there a root user in
>> Windows?
>>
>
> Hence the need for a firewall which Ubuntu provides. Oops.
>
> Alias


I used to have a little bit of respect for you. Back in the day in the XP
newsgroup you occasionally helped people and often had constructive
criticism of Microsoft. Even when we disagreed I felt a dialogue was still
possible and sometimes enjoyed debating you. Since Vista has been released
you have settled into a troll like stance where debate with you is not
possible. I don't know what changed in your life but please take a bit of
friendly advice. Lighten up, enjoy life a little, and don't worry so much
about who is using what OS. Ubuntu is a decent enough distro of Linux for a
beginner. Personally I prefer other distros but I am starting to appreciate
Ubuntu Feisty. That said it's just an OS. It has problems and flaws just
like any other complex computer program. It is not an alternative for most
home users of Windows. When they have a problem there are fewer experts
around to help them. Very few professional computer techs know anything
about it. Those that do probably don't work on home computers. This is
changing but that's currently the way it is. You would be better off trying
to get Windows users to switch to a Mac. A least then they would have a
chance at decent local support.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca

 

[Kevin John Panzke]

Try Out Windows Server 2008 Beta 3 Public Beta, And You Will Like Microsoft
A Whole Lot Better.

"DanielN" <DanielN@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1C18C11F-015D-40FC-86B6-3C2AF1A575A2@microsoft.com...
> Hi People,
>
> I have been a computer engineer for around 7 years professionally with
> around 7 years prior to that self teaching myself all I could about
> Windows.
> I am now MCP qualified and hopefully will soon be MCSA/MCSE/MCDBA/CCNA
> qualified as well.
>
> I have used Vista only a couple of times although getting a very bad
> feeling
> about it having read many bad things and experiencing some worrying things
> like it takes more time for vista to spawn and animate the copying file
> dialog then it does for say windows xp to even have copied the file
> already.
> this is only minor though.
>
> Today one of my customers who has a vista machine (I dont) got in touch
> saying windows was bringing up an error saying that:
>
> 'Windows explorer has stopped working' and then 'Windows explorer is
> restarting.'
>
> Now I know there is a virus/spyware/adware on it. cause i can see an icon
> for counterfit antispyware.
>
> the problem is even if I go into safemode to clean it (remove program and
> run scans of various kinds) which would have worked pretty much most of
> the
> time in previous versions of windows doesnt work cause you have the same
> problem.
>
> i am getting the feeling MS have screwed up with Vista like they did with
> Windows ME.
>
>
> I am shocked that years down the line after ME and I am sure MS knew what
> the score was with ME. They have managed to do it again. They should have
> stuck with XP - perhaps brought out some addons/updates if they really
> thought people were desperate for new stuff, and put in some serious work
> into Vienna. I have heard that there were so many problems with Vista they
> enlisted the help of the Vienna development team to help fix stuff.
> Obviously
> there was to much to fix.
>
> Now I have had my little rant. Maybe MS will sort this.
>
> My advice demand Win XP Pro on new machines. Do not be told that u must
> have
> Vista cause it is the best around.
>
> Dan
>
> Ps. I have also had a customer have a problem authenticating with a WPA
> encrypted wireless network as well. Which turned out to be an
> incompatibility
> between the wireless card and Vista even though the wireless card was
> built
> into the laptop and it had a logo saying it was certified for Vista, and
> this
> was a big OEM's laptop. So what hope is there!

 

[Frank]

Alias wrote:


>
>
> Word has it that you're a pedophile.

------------------------------------------------

Sorry pal not my bag but it appears the guilt of your sins can't keep
your mouth shut, huh?
You are a admitted pedophile.
That's why you won't use your real name.
You've got wants & warrants out for you for molesting children in the USA!
They tolerate that crap in spain?
I hope the parents or relatives of the kids you're molesting catch you
and beat your slim ball a*s to near death.
You are a real side show freak!
Pathetic...you're absolutely a pathetic human being!
Frank

 

[Mr. Happy]

MICHAEL wrote:

>
>
> * Alias:
>> MICHAEL wrote:
>>> * Alias:
>>>> MICHAEL wrote:
>>>>> * Alias:
>>>>>> Back to the present. Use Ubuntu and never worry about a virus, root
>>>>>> kit or any other
>>>>>> malware. http://www.ubuntu.com/
>>>>> http://www.sans.org/reading_room/whitepapers/linux/901.php Linux
>>>>> RootKits For Beginners - From Prevention to Removal
>>>>>
>>>>> One day while reading a mail list for the Linux Users Group in my
>>>>> hometown I discovered a call for help. It was a posting from a novice
>>>>> Linux user with a disturbing issue. While doing some routine checks on
>>>>> a Linux system, he found a user that had been added to the system with
>>>>> the user id of 0 (root). His first thought was that it might be a
>>>>> rootkit. He wanted to know what he could do to verify it was a rootkit
>>>>> and how to remove it from the system. He further asked for suggestions
>>>>> on preventative measures to ensure this kind of attack does not
>>>>> reoccur. That situation prompted me to write this paper to an
>>>>> understanding of rootkits and its effects. This
>>>>> paper will also discuss how to monitor for a rootkit, and the steps
>>>>> that need to be
>>>>> taken to remove one.
>>>>>
>>>> I never said that a firewall wasn't necessary. Ubuntu comes with one
>>>> built-in. I would also recommend a router hard firewall.
>>> "Use Ubuntu and never worry about a virus, root kit or any other
>>> malware." -Alias
>>>
>>> You said "never", you were wrong.
>>>
>>> "Absolute truth" is for absolute fools.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Michael
>>
>> Is there an echo in here?
>
> Only the echoes of your foolish nonsense.
>
>> If one has Ubuntu that comes with a firewall
>
> So does Vista.
>
>> and a router with a firewall how, pray tell, will anyone install a root
>> kit?
>
> You never stated that in your original reply.
>
> "Use Ubuntu and never worry about a virus, root kit
> or any other malware." -Alias
>
> I see no mention of using additional security measures.
>
> Now you bring up the "ifs". If a Window user properly
> secures their machine, they will not suffer from rootkits, either.
>
> Amazing that there are programs for Linux rootkit removal
> when there are no Linux machines getting infected.
>
> Amazing such warnings, as the below, exist if no Linux users were being
> infected.
>
> http://www.juniper.net/security/auto/vulnerabilities/vuln734.html
> Severity: HIGH
> Description:
> The Satori Linux Rootkit is a collection of publicly available Trojan
> utilities that target Linux systems. It is also known as Linux Rootkit 4
> and is distributed by The Crackers Layer.

Please, at least try and stay current. Linux Rootkit IV was released in
November 26, 1998!!!! Really had to scratch around the Net to find one?

http://www.ossec.net/rootkits/studies/lrk5.txt

Shake Hands With,
Mr. Happy

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Are you actually Alias?
With your disrespectful hijacking comments yesterday and now this.
You have stooped to a new low.
It is becoming more apparent (if you are actually Alias) your
intention is more of disruption that inform or educate and this post
of yours is proof.

You are bordering on slander but I suppose that is also acceptable in
the country you fearfully live.

Or perhaps the facts are so disturbing to your love for Linux that you
feel the need to do anything at all as long as your Linux agenda is
carried out?

What happened when you said "Word has it that you're a pedophile." in
a Linux newsgroup?

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
news:OKL5InxvHHA.2040@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Word has it that you're a pedophile.
>
> Alias

 

[Mr. Happy]

Alias wrote:

> MICHAEL wrote:
>>
>> * Alias:
>>> MICHAEL wrote:
>>>> * Alias:
>>>>> MICHAEL wrote:
>>>>>> * Alias:
>>>>>>> Back to the present. Use Ubuntu and never worry about a virus, root
>>>>>>> kit or any other
>>>>>>> malware. http://www.ubuntu.com/
>>>>>> http://www.sans.org/reading_room/whitepapers/linux/901.php Linux
>>>>>> RootKits For Beginners - From Prevention to Removal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One day while reading a mail list for the Linux Users Group in my
>>>>>> hometown I discovered a call for help. It was a posting from a novice
>>>>>> Linux user with a disturbing issue. While doing some routine checks
>>>>>> on a Linux system, he found a user that had been added to the system
>>>>>> with the user id of 0 (root). His first thought was that it might be
>>>>>> a rootkit. He wanted to know what he could do to verify it was a
>>>>>> rootkit and how to remove it from the system. He further asked for
>>>>>> suggestions on preventative measures to ensure this kind of attack
>>>>>> does not reoccur. That situation prompted me to write this paper to
>>>>>> an understanding of rootkits and its effects. This
>>>>>> paper will also discuss how to monitor for a rootkit, and the steps
>>>>>> that need to be
>>>>>> taken to remove one.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I never said that a firewall wasn't necessary. Ubuntu comes with one
>>>>> built-in. I would also recommend a router hard firewall.
>>>> "Use Ubuntu and never worry about a virus, root kit or any other
>>>> malware." -Alias
>>>>
>>>> You said "never", you were wrong.
>>>>
>>>> "Absolute truth" is for absolute fools.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Michael
>>> Is there an echo in here?
>>
>> Only the echoes of your foolish nonsense.
>>
>>> If one has Ubuntu that comes with a firewall
>>
>> So does Vista.
>>
>>> and a router with a firewall how, pray tell, will anyone install a root
>>> kit?
>>
>> You never stated that in your original reply.
>>
>> "Use Ubuntu and never worry about a virus, root kit
>> or any other malware." -Alias
>>
>> I see no mention of using additional security measures.
>
> No need. A firewall is automatically installed when you install Ubuntu.
>
I think some of the confusion amongst Windows users on this question is that
Windows does have a firewall ... an actual application that can be
installed or may come installed by default, depending on the version of
Windows and can be turned on or off. Ubuntu doesn't have such an
application installed by default, as Linux doesn't use an application to
give one a "firewall". Linux, by design, is a firewall. All ports are
closed unless one specifically opens a service that then opens a port to
the outside world. This is controlled by iptable rules. There are frontends
to iptables that are apps one can install in Linux that gives one a GUI way
to write iptable rules. But they in themselves aren't a firewall in the
sense one is familiar with in Windows.

To say "a firewall is automatically installed when you install Ubuntu" is
not technically correct and leaves Windows users to say that Windows does
the same. They are not at all the same. A Linux box doesn't need
a "firewall". If you run services that open specific ports that you don't
want the outside world to be able to access and just be accessible within
your LAN, then you can set iptable rules to block outside access. But there
are other ways with most services to configure them individually to do the
same, or use hosts.allow and hosts.deny to lock down some of the ports some
services use. A NAT router is really all one needs to offer intrusion
protection within a Linux based LAN.

Shake Hands With,
Mr. Happy