nasty assertion error

[George Hester]

Here it is



I tried to open Windows Media Player Classic. This isn't right. I am noticing that no media files open here although the correct codecx are installed. If I hit ignore I just keep getting these types of "Expressions." Any ideas on this issue? Thanks

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George Hester
________________________________

 

[George Hester]

What is even more impressive I don't even have dbgheap.c on this machine

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"George Hester" <hesterloli@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:eXNznvhyHHA.4276@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
Here it is



I tried to open Windows Media Player Classic. This isn't right. I am noticing that no media files open here although the correct codecx are installed. If I hit ignore I just keep getting these types of "Expressions." Any ideas on this issue? Thanks

--
George Hester
________________________________

 

[Sid Elbow]

I don't know if you inserted something after that "Here it is" but if
so, it sure didn't survive the trip to my machine.


George Hester wrote:
> Here it is
>
>
>
> I tried to open Windows Media Player Classic. This isn't right. I am noticing that no media files open here although the correct codecx are installed. If I hit ignore I just keep getting these types of "Expressions." Any ideas on this issue? Thanks
>

 

[Alex Blekhman]

"George Hester" wrote:
> I tried to open Windows Media Player Classic. This isn't
> right. I am noticing that no media files open here
> although the correct codecx are installed. If I hit
> ignore I just keep getting these types of "Expressions."
> Any ideas on this issue? Thanks

Why do you ask here? Ask developers of Media Player Classic.

 

[George Hester]

Really that is interesting. Are you viewing this newsgroup over the Web
interface? To explain this issue would have required alot of verbage and it
would really have been way over the top. Try to view the message with OEX
you will find if you set it up right it works quite well. Here is the
address for this newsgroup:

msnews.microsoft.com

--
George Hester
________________________________
"Sid Elbow" <mevagissey@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:25094$469f9a54$cef889ca$26929@TEKSAVVY.COM...
> I don't know if you inserted something after that "Here it is" but if
> so, it sure didn't survive the trip to my machine.
>
>
> George Hester wrote:
> > Here it is
> >
> >
> >
> > I tried to open Windows Media Player Classic. This isn't right. I am
noticing that no media files open here although the correct codecx are
installed. If I hit ignore I just keep getting these types of
"Expressions." Any ideas on this issue? Thanks
> >

 

[George Hester]

Hi Alex good point but something tells me this is going to happen with a
vaiety of applications on this machine. In other words this issue is not
restricted to just Windows Media Player Classic. It has to do with anything
which is going to try to access a .ax file at startup. You know when
Windows starts it accesses .ax files at startup also. Oh well when I find
my op sys disk I'll just redo this system just thought it was somewhat
interesting this error since there is no development software on this
system. But one thing that is interesting is I went to
http://www.microsoft.com/directx and just went quickly through the directx
for Window 2000 download and when it installed I nocticed it was installing
a piece of DirectxX SDK. I was wondering about that but just let it go.
I kind of think that is the problem since Windows Media Player Classic
didn't have this issue starting before that install. That install is not in
Add\Remove so I am stuck with it.

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George Hester
________________________________
"Alex Blekhman" <tkfx.REMOVE@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uczhLCiyHHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> "George Hester" wrote:
> > I tried to open Windows Media Player Classic. This isn't
> > right. I am noticing that no media files open here
> > although the correct codecx are installed. If I hit
> > ignore I just keep getting these types of "Expressions."
> > Any ideas on this issue? Thanks
>
> Why do you ask here? Ask developers of Media Player Classic.
>

 

[Ben Voigt [C++ MVP]]

"George Hester" <hesterloli@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:u3lqC$iyHHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hi Alex good point but something tells me this is going to happen with a
> vaiety of applications on this machine. In other words this issue is not
> restricted to just Windows Media Player Classic. It has to do with
> anything
> which is going to try to access a .ax file at startup. You know when
> Windows starts it accesses .ax files at startup also. Oh well when I find

I wasn't aware of any such thing as a .ax file.... looks like a renamed DLL,
Dependency Walker opens it just fine. That might help you track down the
problem.

Also, have you tried disabling the various codecs (Device Manager -> Sound
and audio -> Audio Codecs -> Properties -> Properties tab) to see if a
particular one is causing the problem?

 

[George Hester]

Hi again. I wish to apologize to all and sundry to those that think I violated newsgroup etiquette with this post. I didn't mean to do that. It is probably because I have lost my W2K Network in a move to a new location everything seems to be falling apart here. I lost my domain controller and this client is now on the fritz. Seems only my XP clents survived the change in location. Again sorry to have taken frustration out here really I apologize.

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George Hester
________________________________
"George Hester" <hesterloli@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:u7MLz1hyHHA.5964@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
What is even more impressive I don't even have dbgheap.c on this machine

--
George Hester
________________________________
"George Hester" <hesterloli@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:eXNznvhyHHA.4276@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
Here it is



I tried to open Windows Media Player Classic. This isn't right. I am noticing that no media files open here although the correct codecx are installed. If I hit ignore I just keep getting these types of "Expressions." Any ideas on this issue? Thanks

--
George Hester
________________________________

 

[George Hester]

Thanks for that avenue of attack here. I am going to see if I can find a
hole in this error using that advice. So far I been stuch trying to figure
out a highway to investigate this issue.

Maybe this issue is having [a] debug directx file in this system. I will
be looking at that also. Don't have Dependency Walker here but I think I
can find it on the Net.

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George Hester
________________________________
"Ben Voigt [C++ MVP]" <rbv@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:#aGrNDjyHHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> "George Hester" <hesterloli@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:u3lqC$iyHHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > Hi Alex good point but something tells me this is going to happen with a
> > vaiety of applications on this machine. In other words this issue is
not
> > restricted to just Windows Media Player Classic. It has to do with
> > anything
> > which is going to try to access a .ax file at startup. You know when
> > Windows starts it accesses .ax files at startup also. Oh well when I
find
>
> I wasn't aware of any such thing as a .ax file.... looks like a renamed
DLL,
> Dependency Walker opens it just fine. That might help you track down the
> problem.
>
> Also, have you tried disabling the various codecs (Device Manager -> Sound
> and audio -> Audio Codecs -> Properties -> Properties tab) to see if a
> particular one is causing the problem?
>
>

 

[George Hester]

Hi Ben check this out:



I cannot run dxdiag anymore. Eerie. Yikes this op sys is dead eh? All I can do here is Abort. If I just keep hitting Ignore after a while dxdiag will quit and write an error log (Dr Watson?) but I don't know where that file is being placed. Haven't done the disabling of codecs yet but will.

--
George Hester
________________________________
"Ben Voigt [C++ MVP]" <rbv@nospam.nospam> wrote in message news:#aGrNDjyHHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> "George Hester" <hesterloli@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:u3lqC$iyHHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > Hi Alex good point but something tells me this is going to happen with a
> > vaiety of applications on this machine. In other words this issue is not
> > restricted to just Windows Media Player Classic. It has to do with
> > anything
> > which is going to try to access a .ax file at startup. You know when
> > Windows starts it accesses .ax files at startup also. Oh well when I find
>
> I wasn't aware of any such thing as a .ax file.... looks like a renamed DLL,
> Dependency Walker opens it just fine. That might help you track down the
> problem.
>
> Also, have you tried disabling the various codecs (Device Manager -> Sound
> and audio -> Audio Codecs -> Properties -> Properties tab) to see if a
> particular one is causing the problem?
>
>

 

[Sid Elbow]

No, I'm pulling it from regular nntp servers. If what you included was
an imbedded/attached graphic, it was probably stripped on the nntp
circuit since most servers don't allow such attachments in non-binary
groups (another netiquette problem I'm afraid).

George Hester wrote:
> Really that is interesting. Are you viewing this newsgroup over the Web
> interface? To explain this issue would have required alot of verbage and it
> would really have been way over the top. Try to view the message with OEX
> you will find if you set it up right it works quite well. Here is the
> address for this newsgroup:
>
> msnews.microsoft.com
>
> --
> George Hester
> ________________________________
> "Sid Elbow" <mevagissey@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:25094$469f9a54$cef889ca$26929@TEKSAVVY.COM...
>> I don't know if you inserted something after that "Here it is" but if
>> so, it sure didn't survive the trip to my machine.

 

[Alex Blekhman]

"George Hester" wrote:
> Really that is interesting. Are you viewing this
> newsgroup over the Web
> interface? To explain this issue would have required alot
> of verbage and it
> would really have been way over the top. Try to view the
> message with OEX
> you will find if you set it up right it works quite well.

Usually people read (and write) Usenet posts in plain text.
Many of them have configured teir newsreaders to filter
attachments out, as well. Asking them to switch to HTML view
is considered impolite.

Most of the time developers already know about different
kinds of error message boxes. So, it's enogh to say that it
was "CRT assert message box" or whatever. Then just post
relevant part of it (like name of a function or source file
with number of a line).

However, if you need to post entire content of message box,
then press Ctrl+C when message box window is active. Then
press Ctrl+V in any text editor. You'll get full content of
the message box. Almost every MS product (including Windows)
supports this feature.

Alex

 

[Alex Blekhman]

"George Hester" wrote:
> [...] It has to do with anything
> which is going to try to access a .ax file at startup.
> You know when
> Windows starts it accesses .ax files at startup also.

It looks like installed codecs are all messed up. Sometimes
this happens when people install so called "codec packs".
These packs are usually prepared by amateurs and bring a lot
of outdated esoteric codecs, which cause instability. Not to
mention botched installations of these packs, which can do
all sorts of evil things.

Sometimes it helps to pinpoint codec problems with GSpot
utility (http://www.headbands.com/gspot/). You can open any
multimedia file and see what are the codecs involved, steps
of decoding process etc.

Alex

 

[Ben Voigt [C++ MVP]]

"George Hester" <hesterloli@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ecQ2BajyHHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
Hi Ben check this out:



I cannot run dxdiag anymore. Eerie. Yikes this op sys is dead eh? All I
can do here is Abort. If I just keep hitting Ignore after a while dxdiag
will quit and write an error log (Dr Watson?) but I don't know where that
file is being placed. Haven't done the disabling of codecs yet but will.


www.dependencywalker.com

If you think one of the system dlls has been replaced by a debug version
that should help you find it. Especially try the profiling mode.

--
George Hester
________________________________
"Ben Voigt [C++ MVP]" <rbv@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:#aGrNDjyHHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> "George Hester" <hesterloli@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:u3lqC$iyHHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > Hi Alex good point but something tells me this is going to happen with a
> > vaiety of applications on this machine. In other words this issue is
> > not
> > restricted to just Windows Media Player Classic. It has to do with
> > anything
> > which is going to try to access a .ax file at startup. You know when
> > Windows starts it accesses .ax files at startup also. Oh well when I
> > find
>
> I wasn't aware of any such thing as a .ax file.... looks like a renamed
> DLL,
> Dependency Walker opens it just fine. That might help you track down the
> problem.
>
> Also, have you tried disabling the various codecs (Device Manager -> Sound
> and audio -> Audio Codecs -> Properties -> Properties tab) to see if a
> particular one is causing the problem?
>
>

 

[Sid Elbow]

Alex Blekhman wrote:

> Usually people read (and write) Usenet posts in plain text. Many of them
> have configured teir newsreaders to filter attachments out, as well.

Many (most?) nntp servers strip attachments in non-binary groups these
days. (In fact many don't carry binary groups either but that's another
story).

 

[Alex Blekhman]

"Sid Elbow" wrote:
> Many (most?) nntp servers strip attachments in non-binary
> groups these days. (In fact many don't carry binary groups
> either but that's another story).

I subscribed directly with "msnews.microsoft.com" server. I
can read HTML posts and see all attachments.

Alex

 

[Sid Elbow]

Alex Blekhman wrote:
> "Sid Elbow" wrote:
>> Many (most?) nntp servers strip attachments in non-binary groups these
>> days. (In fact many don't carry binary groups either but that's
>> another story).
>
> I subscribed directly with "msnews.microsoft.com" server. I can read
> HTML posts and see all attachments.

Great! It's nice to know there's at least one server that will do it

 

[George Hester]

Right this ntp server does support graphics it is only your client that
keeps you from seeing the html and to be honest with you there is a time and
place when a picture speaks a thousand words and I really didn't want to do
all the writing. Now I posted it at a gif so that even a dial-up would have
no problem downloading the post. So I was considerate there I can only hope
that some people have the courtesy to grin and bear it. If not again I
apologize to all that don't want to enable the ability to read html posts.
The post itself would have been atrociously hard for me to explain the issue
mostly because I didn't even know what it was other than it's and error.
Writing I had the error would not have helped to explain the error since the
error itself is really not a good explanation what is happening. Haven't
you ever got an error and knew right off the bat the error was wrong?

Let me give you an example of such an error it is very easy to do. Remove
all NTFS security on the file tftp.exe in C:\WINNT\system32. It won't hurt
anything you can operate this way if you want and is really a good security
measure. Anyway install your Service Pack again. Of course if you have IE
6 in Windows 2000 DON'T DO THIS. Watch what happens. You will find your
service pach install fails because with error mesage tftp is being used.
WRONG. That is NOT the error. So you see my error is the similar to this.

I found out my DirectShow is now wasted because this is a Pentium 3 computer
and you can check out the article on it:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/234620/en-us

Granted this is for Windows 98 but then look at this article:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/183351/en-us

Notice it applies to IE 5.5 which is what I am using here. Notice the error
title in my picture says Visual C++ Debug Library. See that is why a
picture can speak a thousand words. The error itself is not giving us any
valid information it is the title of the MessageBox widow that is pertinent
here.

Anyway thanks for any help on this issue but it really looks like I hosed
this system trying to update its DirectX. Live and learn. I don't know how
I could have avoided this since the link at Microsoft leading to an update
for DirectX in Windows 2000 was wrong. It lead to a piece of the DirectX
SDK and therein is why I am in this predicament. I guess the moral of the
storry here is be careful trying to update products at Microsft that aren't
current products. Otherwise things like this can happen. Thanks.

--
George Hester
________________________________
"Sid Elbow" <mevagissey@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:73d9c$46a0b9f8$cef889ca$29173@TEKSAVVY.COM...
> Alex Blekhman wrote:
> > "Sid Elbow" wrote:
> >> Many (most?) nntp servers strip attachments in non-binary groups these
> >> days. (In fact many don't carry binary groups either but that's
> >> another story).
> >
> > I subscribed directly with "msnews.microsoft.com" server. I can read
> > HTML posts and see all attachments.
>
> Great! It's nice to know there's at least one server that will do it

 

[George Hester]

Hi Ben. I am able to get dxdiag to work there are no debug dlls in the
system. What has happend is the DirectShow on my system has been corrupted.
The dxdiag will succeed if I answer Yes to a prompt I now get using it. As
it gets about three quarters done a box comes up that says I have a problem
with DirectShow do I want to continue without doing that test. If I day Yes
it completes. If I say No well you see the error I get.

--
George Hester
________________________________
"Ben Voigt [C++ MVP]" <rbv@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:O0BLW9kyHHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> "George Hester" <hesterloli@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ecQ2BajyHHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Hi Ben check this out:
>
>
>
> I cannot run dxdiag anymore. Eerie. Yikes this op sys is dead eh? All I
> can do here is Abort. If I just keep hitting Ignore after a while dxdiag
> will quit and write an error log (Dr Watson?) but I don't know where that
> file is being placed. Haven't done the disabling of codecs yet but will.
>
>
> www.dependencywalker.com
>
> If you think one of the system dlls has been replaced by a debug version
> that should help you find it. Especially try the profiling mode.
>
> --
> George Hester
> ________________________________
> "Ben Voigt [C++ MVP]" <rbv@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:#aGrNDjyHHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >
> > "George Hester" <hesterloli@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:u3lqC$iyHHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > > Hi Alex good point but something tells me this is going to happen with
a
> > > vaiety of applications on this machine. In other words this issue is
> > > not
> > > restricted to just Windows Media Player Classic. It has to do with
> > > anything
> > > which is going to try to access a .ax file at startup. You know when
> > > Windows starts it accesses .ax files at startup also. Oh well when I
> > > find
> >
> > I wasn't aware of any such thing as a .ax file.... looks like a renamed
> > DLL,
> > Dependency Walker opens it just fine. That might help you track down
the
> > problem.
> >
> > Also, have you tried disabling the various codecs (Device Manager ->
Sound
> > and audio -> Audio Codecs -> Properties -> Properties tab) to see if a
> > particular one is causing the problem?
> >
> >
>
>

 

[George Hester]

yes I know. Been there done that. But it wasn't codecs I installed it was
an update to DirectX I got at Microsoft that was the instigator of the
issue. Everything fine before it not all bad after the install. I can
still use Windows Media Player on mpgs usually and VLC Player on everything
else. Sucks but oh well thanks for your and Ben's help. It was the
suggestions here that lead me to what looks like the culprit here.

--
George Hester
________________________________
"Alex Blekhman" <tkfx.REMOVE@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:O1l8D6kyHHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> "George Hester" wrote:
> > [...] It has to do with anything
> > which is going to try to access a .ax file at startup.
> > You know when
> > Windows starts it accesses .ax files at startup also.
>
> It looks like installed codecs are all messed up. Sometimes
> this happens when people install so called "codec packs".
> These packs are usually prepared by amateurs and bring a lot
> of outdated esoteric codecs, which cause instability. Not to
> mention botched installations of these packs, which can do
> all sorts of evil things.
>
> Sometimes it helps to pinpoint codec problems with GSpot
> utility (http://www.headbands.com/gspot/). You can open any
> multimedia file and see what are the codecs involved, steps
> of decoding process etc.
>
> Alex
>