Long delay during POST

M

Mart

In which case try Boot Log Analyzer v1.23 (freeware) to determine the
bottleneck.
Still available at :-
http://www.woundedmoon.org/win32/bootloganalyzer123.html

Mart


"ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:622u8oF220f4mU1@mid.individual.net...
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in news:u4nNd84cIHA.4696
> @TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
>
>> The OP misspoke. Nobody (including you) bothered to make the technical
>> corrections decently. End of discussion, seems to me.
>>
>
> Yes, my error. For clarification, if the first screen stays for a long
> time, the correct statement is that POST did occur, is finished, and the
> delay afterword is after POST?
>
> ms
 
M

Mike Y

I've seen SCSI do that. If SCSI is detected, some SCSI BIOS's will
try to walk the entire SCSI bus to scan for devices, one at a time. That
means reset and timeout for each device in order.


"ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:61tsmcF1vsepsU1@mid.individual.net...
> This machine has a consistent 40 second delay during POST before windows
> starts to load. This is not normal as I usually see less than 10 seconds
> delay in other computers.
>
> Included for info:
> autoexec.bat
> SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D3 T4
> LH C:\WINDOWS\AU30DOS.COM
> Set tvdumpflags=8
>
> config.sys
> numlock = off
>
> What are usual causes of a long delay here, and a fix?
>
> ms
 
P

PCR

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| The OP misspoke. Nobody (including you) bothered to make the technical
| corrections decently. End of discussion, seems to me.

That is true, as ms admits. I can't find who, but someone in here did
figure he overestimated the duration of post besides you. I can't blame
dadiOH for not figuring it too. Me 'n Blanton WOULD have-- but you beat
us to it!

| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:%23hU4hn2cIHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
|> dadiOH wrote:
|> | PCR wrote:
|> |
|> |>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
|> |>>> Just because 40 seconds is not normal for "other computers" does
|> |>>> not make it not normal for the machine in front of you. Put in
|> |>>> another drive, install Windows, test.
|> |>>>
|> |>>> Then again, those sound drivers may be taking a few seconds to
|> |>>> load things up. Try disabling Autoexec.bat and Config.sys using
|> |>>> MSCONFIG. Any change?
|> |>>
|> |>> I'm glad that fixed it for him but why?? POST is before Windows
|> |>> even starts to load and it is Windows that loads drivers, checks
|> |>> config.sys and executes autoexe.bat, no?
|> |>
|> |> IO.sys processes MSDOS.sys (or Winboot.ini), Config.sys &
|> |> Autoexec.bat before it loads Windows...
|> |
|> | Yeah, I mis-spoke saying "Windows", should have said "OS" or
|> | "system". Thanks for the reply.
|>
|> You are welcome. That cquirke always was a knowledgeable one, as was
|> Terhune in this thread as usual. And it's good to see Blanton back!
|>
|> | --
|> |
|> | dadiOH
|> | ____________________________
|> |
|> | dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
|> | ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
|> | LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
|> | Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
G

glee

It was me:
"glee" wrote in message news:egPvzXqcIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

<quote>

My guess is that the delay is after POST, during startup of Windows, and that "ms"
mistakenly referred to the delay as being during POST.

</quote>
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:ePB3DyDdIHA.4312@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> | The OP misspoke. Nobody (including you) bothered to make the technical
> | corrections decently. End of discussion, seems to me.
>
> That is true, as ms admits. I can't find who, but someone in here did
> figure he overestimated the duration of post besides you. I can't blame
> dadiOH for not figuring it too. Me 'n Blanton WOULD have-- but you beat
> us to it!
>
> | --
> | Gary S. Terhune
> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | www.grystmill.com
> |
> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | news:%23hU4hn2cIHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> |> dadiOH wrote:
> |> | PCR wrote:
> |> |
> |> |>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> |> |>>> Just because 40 seconds is not normal for "other computers" does
> |> |>>> not make it not normal for the machine in front of you. Put in
> |> |>>> another drive, install Windows, test.
> |> |>>>
> |> |>>> Then again, those sound drivers may be taking a few seconds to
> |> |>>> load things up. Try disabling Autoexec.bat and Config.sys using
> |> |>>> MSCONFIG. Any change?
> |> |>>
> |> |>> I'm glad that fixed it for him but why?? POST is before Windows
> |> |>> even starts to load and it is Windows that loads drivers, checks
> |> |>> config.sys and executes autoexe.bat, no?
> |> |>
> |> |> IO.sys processes MSDOS.sys (or Winboot.ini), Config.sys &
> |> |> Autoexec.bat before it loads Windows...
> |> |
> |> | Yeah, I mis-spoke saying "Windows", should have said "OS" or
> |> | "system". Thanks for the reply.
> |>
> |> You are welcome. That cquirke always was a knowledgeable one, as was
> |> Terhune in this thread as usual. And it's good to see Blanton back!
> |>
> |> | --
> |> |
> |> | dadiOH
> |> | ____________________________
> |> |
> |> | dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
> |> | ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
> |> | LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
> |> | Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
> |>
> |> --
> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
> |> Should things get worse after this,
> |> PCR
> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
>
 
P

PCR

glee wrote:
| It was me:

Yep, that was it. I clicked every post thrice but never saw it again!
But I might have guessed it was you. Very good, as usual. I'm busy in
Warren's thread & must go soon.

| "glee" wrote in message news:egPvzXqcIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
|
| <quote>
|
| My guess is that the delay is after POST, during startup of Windows,
| and that "ms" mistakenly referred to the delay as being during POST.
|
| </quote>
| --
| Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
| http://dts-l.net/
| http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
|
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:ePB3DyDdIHA.4312@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
|> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
|> | The OP misspoke. Nobody (including you) bothered to make the
|> | technical corrections decently. End of discussion, seems to me.
|>
|> That is true, as ms admits. I can't find who, but someone in here did
|> figure he overestimated the duration of post besides you. I can't
|> blame dadiOH for not figuring it too. Me 'n Blanton WOULD have-- but
|> you beat us to it!
|>
|> | --
|> | Gary S. Terhune
|> | MS-MVP Shell/User
|> | www.grystmill.com
|> |
|> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
|> | news:%23hU4hn2cIHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
|> |> dadiOH wrote:
|> |> | PCR wrote:
|> |> |
|> |> |>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
|> |> |>>> Just because 40 seconds is not normal for "other computers"
|> |> |>>> does not make it not normal for the machine in front of you.
|> |> |>>> Put in another drive, install Windows, test.
|> |> |>>>
|> |> |>>> Then again, those sound drivers may be taking a few seconds
|> |> |>>> to load things up. Try disabling Autoexec.bat and Config.sys
|> |> |>>> using MSCONFIG. Any change?
|> |> |>>
|> |> |>> I'm glad that fixed it for him but why?? POST is before
|> |> |>> Windows even starts to load and it is Windows that loads
|> |> |>> drivers, checks config.sys and executes autoexe.bat, no?
|> |> |>
|> |> |> IO.sys processes MSDOS.sys (or Winboot.ini), Config.sys &
|> |> |> Autoexec.bat before it loads Windows...
|> |> |
|> |> | Yeah, I mis-spoke saying "Windows", should have said "OS" or
|> |> | "system". Thanks for the reply.
|> |>
|> |> You are welcome. That cquirke always was a knowledgeable one, as
|> |> was Terhune in this thread as usual. And it's good to see Blanton
|> |> back!
|> |>
|> |> | --
|> |> |
|> |> | dadiOH
|> |> | ____________________________
|> |> |
|> |> | dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
|> |> | ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
|> |> | LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
|> |> | Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
|> |>
|> |> --
|> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> |> Should things get worse after this,
|> |> PCR
|> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

First screen, second screen... The terms are meaningless. POST can consist
of dozens of screens or only one. POST is what the computer does to check
things out before it starts looking for an operating system. On some
computers, one screen covers that all up, on my machine it goes through at
least eight screens (JMICRON & RAID controllers and other crap).

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:622u8oF220f4mU1@mid.individual.net...
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in news:u4nNd84cIHA.4696
> @TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
>
>> The OP misspoke. Nobody (including you) bothered to make the technical
>> corrections decently. End of discussion, seems to me.
>>
>
> Yes, my error. For clarification, if the first screen stays for a long
> time, the correct statement is that POST did occur, is finished, and the
> delay afterword is after POST?
>
> ms
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

That you did. Got lost in the forest.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
news:uqJ9OEKdIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> It was me:
> "glee" wrote in message news:egPvzXqcIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
> <quote>
>
> My guess is that the delay is after POST, during startup of Windows, and
> that "ms"
> mistakenly referred to the delay as being during POST.
>
> </quote>
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
> http://dts-l.net/
> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> news:ePB3DyDdIHA.4312@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> | The OP misspoke. Nobody (including you) bothered to make the technical
>> | corrections decently. End of discussion, seems to me.
>>
>> That is true, as ms admits. I can't find who, but someone in here did
>> figure he overestimated the duration of post besides you. I can't blame
>> dadiOH for not figuring it too. Me 'n Blanton WOULD have-- but you beat
>> us to it!
>>
>> | --
>> | Gary S. Terhune
>> | MS-MVP Shell/User
>> | www.grystmill.com
>> |
>> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
>> | news:%23hU4hn2cIHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> |> dadiOH wrote:
>> |> | PCR wrote:
>> |> |
>> |> |>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> |> |>>> Just because 40 seconds is not normal for "other computers" does
>> |> |>>> not make it not normal for the machine in front of you. Put in
>> |> |>>> another drive, install Windows, test.
>> |> |>>>
>> |> |>>> Then again, those sound drivers may be taking a few seconds to
>> |> |>>> load things up. Try disabling Autoexec.bat and Config.sys using
>> |> |>>> MSCONFIG. Any change?
>> |> |>>
>> |> |>> I'm glad that fixed it for him but why?? POST is before Windows
>> |> |>> even starts to load and it is Windows that loads drivers, checks
>> |> |>> config.sys and executes autoexe.bat, no?
>> |> |>
>> |> |> IO.sys processes MSDOS.sys (or Winboot.ini), Config.sys &
>> |> |> Autoexec.bat before it loads Windows...
>> |> |
>> |> | Yeah, I mis-spoke saying "Windows", should have said "OS" or
>> |> | "system". Thanks for the reply.
>> |>
>> |> You are welcome. That cquirke always was a knowledgeable one, as was
>> |> Terhune in this thread as usual. And it's good to see Blanton back!
>> |>
>> |> | --
>> |> |
>> |> | dadiOH
>> |> | ____________________________
>> |> |
>> |> | dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
>> |> | ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
>> |> | LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
>> |> | Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
>> |>
>> |> --
>> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
>> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
>> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
>> |> Should things get worse after this,
>> |> PCR
>> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>>
>> --
>> Thanks or Good Luck,
>> There may be humor in this post, and,
>> Naturally, you will not sue,
>> Should things get worse after this,
>> PCR
>> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>>
>>
>
 
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