mysterious file E--APPRO.PRI

[PCR]

PCR wrote:
| Oliver Walter wrote:
|| In message <OpA4LRbeIHA.4744@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, PCR
|| <pcrrcp@netzero.net> writes
|| ...
||>Have you tried it in DOS. Try it first in Windows DOS (in a box). If
||>that fails, you must boot to True DOS & do it there...
|
| ...snip
||>Post your results. If it fails, you must be sent to True DOS for it.
||
|| OK, thanks for the suggestions. "Done that", didn't work - neither
|| DOS box under Windows nor with DOS (Win98 rescue disk) booted from
|| Floppy. Here's what it looked like in the DOS box (and the pure
|| Floppy DOS was virtually identical, but the folder name "Computing"
|| had to be the 8.3 name "Comput~1"):
|
| It is good you knew how to try it off the floppy. I am perplexed it
| did not work. You could try (as Dulak suggested) to investigate &
| change the attributes of the folder...
|
| ATTRIB -H -S -R -A E:\Computing\PC\Linux\Win-Ux
|
| However, I had already done the investigation, & its attributes didn't
| matter on my test file. OTOH...
|
| DELTREE E:\Comput~1\PC\Linux\Win-Ux
|
| ...is surely worth a try. If it works, it deletes the folder & all
| files inside it, which is only one.

Oops, to be sure there is only one file in that folder before you
DELTREE it, you must use the /a switch...

DIR /a E:\Comput~1\PC\Linux\Win-Ux

In Windows Explorer, to see hidden files, you must...

"START button, Settings, Folder Options, View tab",
& bolt "Show all files" & may as well uncheck
"Hide file extensions..." too.

| Or, include the file name...
|
| DELTREE E:\Comput~1\PC\Linux\Win-Ux\E--APPRO.PRI
|
| ...to get just the file. (But usually just DEL is used to delete a
| file to avoid mishap.)
|
|| E:\Computing\PC\Linux\Win-Ux>dir/s
||
|| Volume in drive E is USER 6GB
|| Volume Serial Number is 4079-89CF
||
|| Directory of E:\Computing\PC\Linux\Win-Ux
||
|| . <DIR> 27/03/07 21:45 .
|| .. <DIR> 27/03/07 21:45 ..
|| E--APPRO PRI 0 27/02/08 13:35 E--APPRO.PRI
|| 1 file(s) 0 bytes
||
|| Total files listed:
|| 1 file(s) 0 bytes
|| 2 dir(s) 3,175.85 MB free
||
|| E:\Computing\PC\Linux\Win-Ux>attrib *.*
|| A R E--APPRO.PRI E:\computing\pc\linux\win-ux\E--APPRO.PRI
||
|| E:\Computing\PC\Linux\Win-Ux>attrib -a -r e--appro.pri
|| Access denied - e--appro.pri
|
| Yow! Why!?
|
|| (there are no other files in that folder despite its possibly
|| interesting name.)
|| "access denied" every time.
|
| It's worth trying as Dulak said, above.
|
|| I imagine if I really want to be rid of this file I'll need to back
|| up the partition to another partition and/or CD, then reformat this
|| partition and copy back all files except this one. At present this
|| file is no worse than a tiny nuisance because I know it's there.
|
| Maybe Linux or some other 3rd party app will be able to get it.
|
| (a) Is it just E--APPRO.PRI that can't be accessed?
| Or can it be the whole E:\partition is inaccessible?
|
| (b) Do you ever create files with Linux, & are they
| normally fully accessible to Windows & DOS?
|
|| --
|| Oliver
|| (replies to the "Reply-to:" address will reach me
|| unless spam is sent to it, after which all its mail will
|| be discarded}.
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| Should things get worse after this,
| PCR
| pcrrcp@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

This is California. We're working on cool things like cloning. I've got a
toe for every poodle.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:elLXdomeIHA.4144@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> | Have not!! I have poodles. Lots! And breeding more.
>
> I guess I lost count, maybe-- but no amount of poodles will help once
> you've run out of toes! How many years has that Schwarzenegger got left?
>
> | --
> | Gary S. Terhune
> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | www.grystmill.com
> |
> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | news:%23GaJqYbeIHA.4744@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> |> Franc Zabkar wrote:
> |> | On 27 Feb 2008 04:12:07 GMT, thanatoid <waiting@the.exit.invalid>
> |> | put finger to keyboard and composed:
> |> |
> |> |>(BTW, there is no such word as "governating".)
> |> |
> |> | You've probably never seen the BBC comedy series "Dead Ringers".
> |> | "Governating" sounds like one of their Bush-isms.
> |> |
> |> | Then again, maybe PCR meant "gubernating".
> |>
> |> Goobernating? Of the Andy Griffith show? No! This is a lot worse! I'm
> |> talking about Terhune's governor-- a terrible machine from the future
> |> bent on destroying mankind! He's starting in California by causing
> |> an earthquake with each step-- & Terhune has fallen into 12 already!
> |>
> |> | - Franc Zabkar
> |> | --
> |> | Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
> |>
> |> --
> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
> |> Should things get worse after this,
> |> PCR
> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
>

 

[PCR]

Brian A. wrote:
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:unmlgTbeIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
|> Brian A. wrote:
|> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
|> | news:OvGAYqNeIHA.4260@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|> |>
|> |> Going by...
|> |> http://filext.com/file-extension/PRI
|> |> FILExt - The File Extension Source
|> |>
|> |> ...PRI is used by Prisms as well as LocoScript. (Don't ask me what
|> |> either of those are.)
|> |
|> | Prisms appears to be associated with Xnview which is an image
|> | file converter and LocoScript I believe is used for mainly
|> | printers image converting.
|>
|
| To clear it up a wee bit about LocoScript, from site:
| http://www.locoscript.com/
|
| <quote>
| Yes, LocoScript is still going strong in the 21st century with 1000s
| of users of this classic word processor on ancient PCWs and modern
| PCs.
| Special Notice: Please don't go out and buy a cheap new printer and
| expect it to work with LocoScript or for us to provide a suitable
| driver. Chances are it won't and we can't! LocoScript is an MSDOS
| program and as such is unable to work with a Windows-only printer
| and/or via a USB port. Even when you are running it under Windows.
| You have been warned! However, we can supply you with a suitable
| printer or with special LocoLink software software to convert your
| LocoScript docments into Windows formats such as Word or RTF. </quote>
|
| XnView is a utility for viewing and converting
| graphic files.
| http://pagesperso-orange.fr/pierre.g/xnview/enfeatures.html
|
| and last but not least .pri extension:
| http://www.compuphase.com/graphic/polyraster.htm

Now I've gone & clicked those links. That's a lot of information-- too
much for me these days. Amazing what geeks can & have done, though! But
I'm guessing, either LocoScript or XnView has mishandled one of their
..pri-- either creating an empty one or leaving an emptied one behind
after all the "device-specific bitmaps along with descriptive headers" w
ere removed & converted to something else.

OR, it could be LocoScript or XnView wanted to put an indelible marker
into the system just to say they were there or to say the product was
properly registered. Then, deleting it might be a bad thing to do,
actually. (I don't know.)

| --
|
|
| Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }
| Conflicts start where information lacks.
| http://basconotw.mvps.org/
|
| Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
| How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[PCR]

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| This is California. We're working on cool things like cloning. I've
| got a toe for every poodle.

Very wise of you to ensure you have a poodle for every toe to pull you
backwards out of an earthquake! It must be faster that way so long as
their teeth hold out! But cloning is a bad idea-- how will they know
which one to save?

| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:elLXdomeIHA.4144@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
|> | Have not!! I have poodles. Lots! And breeding more.
|>
|> I guess I lost count, maybe-- but no amount of poodles will help once
|> you've run out of toes! How many years has that Schwarzenegger got
|> left?
|>
|> | --
|> | Gary S. Terhune
|> | MS-MVP Shell/User
|> | www.grystmill.com
|> |
|> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
|> | news:%23GaJqYbeIHA.4744@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
|> |> Franc Zabkar wrote:
|> |> | On 27 Feb 2008 04:12:07 GMT, thanatoid
|> |> | <waiting@the.exit.invalid> put finger to keyboard and composed:
|> |> |
|> |> |>(BTW, there is no such word as "governating".)
|> |> |
|> |> | You've probably never seen the BBC comedy series "Dead Ringers".
|> |> | "Governating" sounds like one of their Bush-isms.
|> |> |
|> |> | Then again, maybe PCR meant "gubernating".
|> |>
|> |> Goobernating? Of the Andy Griffith show? No! This is a lot worse!
|> |> I'm talking about Terhune's governor-- a terrible machine from
|> |> the future bent on destroying mankind! He's starting in
|> |> California by causing an earthquake with each step-- & Terhune
|> |> has fallen into 12 already!
|> |>
|> |> | - Franc Zabkar
|> |> | --
|> |> | Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
|> |>
|> |> --
|> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> |> Should things get worse after this,
|> |> PCR
|> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Geez! I didn't say it would be easy!

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com


"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:OBsjNdqeIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> | This is California. We're working on cool things like cloning. I've
> | got a toe for every poodle.
>
> Very wise of you to ensure you have a poodle for every toe to pull you
> backwards out of an earthquake! It must be faster that way so long as
> their teeth hold out! But cloning is a bad idea-- how will they know
> which one to save?
>
> | --
> | Gary S. Terhune
> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | www.grystmill.com
> |
> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | news:elLXdomeIHA.4144@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> |> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> |> | Have not!! I have poodles. Lots! And breeding more.
> |>
> |> I guess I lost count, maybe-- but no amount of poodles will help once
> |> you've run out of toes! How many years has that Schwarzenegger got
> |> left?
> |>
> |> | --
> |> | Gary S. Terhune
> |> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> |> | www.grystmill.com
> |> |
> |> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> |> | news:%23GaJqYbeIHA.4744@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> |> |> Franc Zabkar wrote:
> |> |> | On 27 Feb 2008 04:12:07 GMT, thanatoid
> |> |> | <waiting@the.exit.invalid> put finger to keyboard and composed:
> |> |> |
> |> |> |>(BTW, there is no such word as "governating".)
> |> |> |
> |> |> | You've probably never seen the BBC comedy series "Dead Ringers".
> |> |> | "Governating" sounds like one of their Bush-isms.
> |> |> |
> |> |> | Then again, maybe PCR meant "gubernating".
> |> |>
> |> |> Goobernating? Of the Andy Griffith show? No! This is a lot worse!
> |> |> I'm talking about Terhune's governor-- a terrible machine from
> |> |> the future bent on destroying mankind! He's starting in
> |> |> California by causing an earthquake with each step-- & Terhune
> |> |> has fallen into 12 already!
> |> |>
> |> |> | - Franc Zabkar
> |> |> | --
> |> |> | Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
> |> |>
> |> |> --
> |> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
> |> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
> |> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
> |> |> Should things get worse after this,
> |> |> PCR
> |> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
> |>
> |> --
> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
> |> Should things get worse after this,
> |> PCR
> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
>

 

[Oliver Walter]

In message <JSGxj.42789$R_5.12454@trnddc08>, John Dulak
<Johnd@Boogus.com> writes
>Perhaps it is the _FOLDER_ that contains this file that is marked Read
>Only. Look at the properties of the folders in Windows and see if any
>in the path are marked "Read Only". You may also want to try the
>DELTREE command from DOS. I've seen it remove things nothing else would
>touch.
I checked the properties of the folder (and the others higher up the
tree) and they were NOT read-only.
DELTREE worked, used from DOS-in-a-box running under Windows. Deltree
evidently just ignores the protection implied by the attributes
read-only etc.
My DOS dialogue went like this:
-------------------------------------
E:\Computing\PC\Linux>dir/ad

Volume in drive E is USER 6GB
Volume Serial Number is 4079-89CF

Directory of E:\Computing\PC\Linux

.. <DIR> 11/04/04 18:12 .
... <DIR> 11/04/04 18:12 ..
MISC <DIR> 11/04/04 18:12 Misc
MANDRAKE <DIR> 14/05/04 20:40 Mandrake
WIN-UX <DIR> 27/03/07 21:45 Win-Ux
UBUNTU <DIR> 20/04/07 15:32 Ubuntu
0 file(s) 0 bytes
6 dir(s) 3,175.84 MB free

E:\Computing\PC\Linux>deltree win-ux
Delete directory "Win-Ux" and all its subdirectories? [yn] y
Deleting Win-Ux...

E:\Computing\PC\Linux>
--------------------------------------
There is now no file with that name in that partition. Thanks to you and
PCR (who posted a little later, so I'm making this a reply to you).
BTW (to PCR). I set my Windows Explorer options to show all file
extensions and to show system and hidden files years ago!
E: is my main working partition (Windows is, unsurprisingly, in C,
containing several thousand files in about 3 GB and, although I have a
couple of folders with Linux-related names, I have never yet run or
installed Linux on my PC.

Verdict so far: I got rid of the mysterious file but I don't know what
created it or what kind of status bits caused "access denied".

Thanks to all who helped.
--
Oliver
(replies to the "Reply-to:" address will reach me
unless spam is sent to it, after which all its mail will
be discarded}.

 

[John Dulak]

Oliver Walter wrote:
> In message <JSGxj.42789$R_5.12454@trnddc08>, John Dulak
> <Johnd@Boogus.com> writes
>> Perhaps it is the _FOLDER_ that contains this file that is marked Read
>> Only. Look at the properties of the folders in Windows and see if any
>> in the path are marked "Read Only". You may also want to try the
>> DELTREE command from DOS. I've seen it remove things nothing else
>> would touch.
> I checked the properties of the folder (and the others higher up the
> tree) and they were NOT read-only.
> DELTREE worked, used from DOS-in-a-box running under Windows. Deltree
> evidently just ignores the protection implied by the attributes
> read-only etc.
> My DOS dialogue went like this:
> -------------------------------------
> E:\Computing\PC\Linux>dir/ad
>
> Volume in drive E is USER 6GB
> Volume Serial Number is 4079-89CF
>
> Directory of E:\Computing\PC\Linux
>
> . <DIR> 11/04/04 18:12 .
> .. <DIR> 11/04/04 18:12 ..
> MISC <DIR> 11/04/04 18:12 Misc
> MANDRAKE <DIR> 14/05/04 20:40 Mandrake
> WIN-UX <DIR> 27/03/07 21:45 Win-Ux
> UBUNTU <DIR> 20/04/07 15:32 Ubuntu
> 0 file(s) 0 bytes
> 6 dir(s) 3,175.84 MB free
>
> E:\Computing\PC\Linux>deltree win-ux
> Delete directory "Win-Ux" and all its subdirectories? [yn] y
> Deleting Win-Ux...
>
> E:\Computing\PC\Linux>
> --------------------------------------
> There is now no file with that name in that partition. Thanks to you and
> PCR (who posted a little later, so I'm making this a reply to you).
> BTW (to PCR). I set my Windows Explorer options to show all file
> extensions and to show system and hidden files years ago!
> E: is my main working partition (Windows is, unsurprisingly, in C,
> containing several thousand files in about 3 GB and, although I have a
> couple of folders with Linux-related names, I have never yet run or
> installed Linux on my PC.
>
> Verdict so far: I got rid of the mysterious file but I don't know what
> created it or what kind of status bits caused "access denied".
>
> Thanks to all who helped.

Oliver:

Glad you finally got it sorted out!!

Thanks for letting us know.

John

--
\\\||///
------------------o000----(o)(o)----000o----------------
----------------------------()--------------------------
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John Dulak - Gnomeway Services - http://tinyurl.com/2qs6o6

 

[Brian A.]

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:%23Y$IkDqeIHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Brian A. wrote:
> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | news:unmlgTbeIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> |> Brian A. wrote:
> |> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> |> | news:OvGAYqNeIHA.4260@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> |> |>
> |> |> Going by...
> |> |> http://filext.com/file-extension/PRI
> |> |> FILExt - The File Extension Source
> |> |>
> |> |> ...PRI is used by Prisms as well as LocoScript. (Don't ask me what
> |> |> either of those are.)
> |> |
> |> | Prisms appears to be associated with Xnview which is an image
> |> | file converter and LocoScript I believe is used for mainly
> |> | printers image converting.
> |>
> |
> | To clear it up a wee bit about LocoScript, from site:
> | http://www.locoscript.com/
> |
> | <quote>
> | Yes, LocoScript is still going strong in the 21st century with 1000s
> | of users of this classic word processor on ancient PCWs and modern
> | PCs.
> | Special Notice: Please don't go out and buy a cheap new printer and
> | expect it to work with LocoScript or for us to provide a suitable
> | driver. Chances are it won't and we can't! LocoScript is an MSDOS
> | program and as such is unable to work with a Windows-only printer
> | and/or via a USB port. Even when you are running it under Windows.
> | You have been warned! However, we can supply you with a suitable
> | printer or with special LocoLink software software to convert your
> | LocoScript docments into Windows formats such as Word or RTF. </quote>
> |
> | XnView is a utility for viewing and converting
> | graphic files.
> | http://pagesperso-orange.fr/pierre.g/xnview/enfeatures.html
> |
> | and last but not least .pri extension:
> | http://www.compuphase.com/graphic/polyraster.htm
>
> Now I've gone & clicked those links. That's a lot of information-- too
> much for me these days. Amazing what geeks can & have done, though! But
> I'm guessing, either LocoScript or XnView has mishandled one of their
> .pri-- either creating an empty one or leaving an emptied one behind
> after all the "device-specific bitmaps along with descriptive headers" w
> ere removed & converted to something else.
>
> OR, it could be LocoScript or XnView wanted to put an indelible marker
> into the system just to say they were there or to say the product was
> properly registered. Then, deleting it might be a bad thing to do,
> actually. (I don't know.)

LocoScript and XnView are not the only ones in the market, any manufacturer that
provides printers that use Postscript and/or Subscript are involved as well.

If deleting caused an issue for a device to work properly, he would then know what
it belonged to and could then reinstall it.


--


Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

 

[PCR]

Brian A. wrote:
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:%23Y$IkDqeIHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
|> Brian A. wrote:
|> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
|> | news:unmlgTbeIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
|> |> Brian A. wrote:
|> |> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
|> |> | news:OvGAYqNeIHA.4260@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|> |> |>
|> |> |> Going by...
|> |> |> http://filext.com/file-extension/PRI
|> |> |> FILExt - The File Extension Source
|> |> |>
|> |> |> ...PRI is used by Prisms as well as LocoScript. (Don't ask me
|> |> |> what either of those are.)
|> |> |
|> |> | Prisms appears to be associated with Xnview which is an image
|> |> | file converter and LocoScript I believe is used for mainly
|> |> | printers image converting.
|> |>
|> |
|> | To clear it up a wee bit about LocoScript, from site:
|> | http://www.locoscript.com/
|> |
|> | <quote>
|> | Yes, LocoScript is still going strong in the 21st century with
|> | 1000s of users of this classic word processor on ancient PCWs and
|> | modern PCs.
|> | Special Notice: Please don't go out and buy a cheap new printer
|> | and expect it to work with LocoScript or for us to provide a
|> | suitable driver. Chances are it won't and we can't! LocoScript is
|> | an MSDOS program and as such is unable to work with a Windows-only
|> | printer and/or via a USB port. Even when you are running it under
|> | Windows. You have been warned! However, we can supply you with a
|> | suitable printer or with special LocoLink software software to
|> | convert your LocoScript docments into Windows formats such as Word
|> | or RTF. </quote>
|> |
|> | XnView is a utility for viewing and converting
|> | graphic files.
|> | http://pagesperso-orange.fr/pierre.g/xnview/enfeatures.html
|> |
|> | and last but not least .pri extension:
|> | http://www.compuphase.com/graphic/polyraster.htm
|>
|> Now I've gone & clicked those links. That's a lot of information--
|> too much for me these days. Amazing what geeks can & have done,
|> though! But I'm guessing, either LocoScript or XnView has mishandled
|> one of their .pri-- either creating an empty one or leaving an
|> emptied one behind after all the "device-specific bitmaps along with
|> descriptive headers" w ere removed & converted to something else.
|>
|> OR, it could be LocoScript or XnView wanted to put an indelible
|> marker into the system just to say they were there or to say the
|> product was properly registered. Then, deleting it might be a bad
|> thing to do, actually. (I don't know.)
|
| LocoScript and XnView are not the only ones in the market, any
| manufacturer that provides printers that use Postscript and/or
| Subscript are involved as well.
|
| If deleting caused an issue for a device to work properly, he would
| then know what it belonged to and could then reinstall it.
|

Alright. That's right. But I hope that doesn't come up. Looks like
Walter did get rid of the file & only time will tell whether some app
will complain. The dates of the folders he displayed...

Directory of E:\Computing\PC\Linux
.. <DIR> 11/04/04 18:12 .
... <DIR> 11/04/04 18:12 ..
MISC <DIR> 11/04/04 18:12 Misc
MANDRAKE <DIR> 14/05/04 20:40 Mandrake
WIN-UX <DIR> 27/03/07 21:45 Win-Ux
UBUNTU <DIR> 20/04/07 15:32 Ubuntu

....do not indicate the deleted one came with the stuff around it.


| --
|
|
| Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }
| Conflicts start where information lacks.
| http://basconotw.mvps.org/
|
| Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
| How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

--
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[PCR]

Oliver Walter wrote:
| In message <JSGxj.42789$R_5.12454@trnddc08>, John Dulak
| <Johnd@Boogus.com> writes
|>Perhaps it is the _FOLDER_ that contains this file that is marked Read
|>Only. Look at the properties of the folders in Windows and see if any
|>in the path are marked "Read Only". You may also want to try the
|>DELTREE command from DOS. I've seen it remove things nothing else
|>would touch.
| I checked the properties of the folder (and the others higher up the
| tree) and they were NOT read-only.
| DELTREE worked, used from DOS-in-a-box running under Windows. Deltree
| evidently just ignores the protection implied by the attributes
| read-only etc.

Very good! I thought that was a good idea of Dulak's! But all of the
consequences are on his head now!

| My DOS dialogue went like this:
| -------------------------------------
| E:\Computing\PC\Linux>dir/ad
|
| Volume in drive E is USER 6GB
| Volume Serial Number is 4079-89CF
|
| Directory of E:\Computing\PC\Linux
|
| . <DIR> 11/04/04 18:12 .
| .. <DIR> 11/04/04 18:12 ..
| MISC <DIR> 11/04/04 18:12 Misc
| MANDRAKE <DIR> 14/05/04 20:40 Mandrake
| WIN-UX <DIR> 27/03/07 21:45 Win-Ux
| UBUNTU <DIR> 20/04/07 15:32 Ubuntu
| 0 file(s) 0 bytes
| 6 dir(s) 3,175.84 MB free

Going by those dates, WIN-UX was created 3 years after Linux, MISC &
MANDRAKE. Also, it preceded UBUNTU by a month. Therefore, it didn't come
in with the install or download of those.

(a) Do you remember creating the WIN-UX directory?
(b) Do you have any folders or files with the date 27/03/07,
on any partition?

| E:\Computing\PC\Linux>deltree win-ux
| Delete directory "Win-Ux" and all its subdirectories? [yn] y
| Deleting Win-Ux...
|
| E:\Computing\PC\Linux>
| --------------------------------------
| There is now no file with that name in that partition. Thanks to you
| and PCR (who posted a little later, so I'm making this a reply to
| you).

It is fitting, as it was his idea.

| BTW (to PCR). I set my Windows Explorer options to show all file
| extensions and to show system and hidden files years ago!

Very good! Then nothing was deleted with that DELTREE than the one
unwanted file.

| E: is my main working partition (Windows is, unsurprisingly, in C,
| containing several thousand files in about 3 GB and, although I have a
| couple of folders with Linux-related names, I have never yet run or
| installed Linux on my PC.

I think that clears Linux, in addition to it's 3 years younger than
WIN-UX.

| Verdict so far: I got rid of the mysterious file but I don't know what
| created it or what kind of status bits caused "access denied".

That is still a mystery. I can only guess the file had some kind of
corruption that thwarted the ATTRIB command & even the Windows GUI
method to remove the attribute.

Did you say Windows wouldn't delete it? I get a requestor from Windows
stating the file is Read-Only, but it allows the file to be deleted. I
do see DEL in Windows DOS does refuse, though...

C:\WINDOWS\TEMP>dir copy.vbs
COPY VBS 1,433 04-07-06 12:56p Copy.vbs

C:\WINDOWS\TEMP>attrib copy.vbs
A R COPY.VBS C:\windows\temp\Copy.vbs

C:\WINDOWS\TEMP>del copy.vbs
Access denied

C:\WINDOWS\TEMP>attrib copy.vbs -r

C:\WINDOWS\TEMP>del copy.vbs

| Thanks to all who helped.

You are welcome.

| --
| Oliver
| (replies to the "Reply-to:" address will reach me
| unless spam is sent to it, after which all its mail will
| be discarded}.

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[PCR]

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| Geez! I didn't say it would be easy!

I know it isn't easy or painless!

| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:OBsjNdqeIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
|> | This is California. We're working on cool things like cloning. I've
|> | got a toe for every poodle.
|>
|> Very wise of you to ensure you have a poodle for every toe to pull
|> you backwards out of an earthquake! It must be faster that way so
|> long as their teeth hold out! But cloning is a bad idea-- how will
|> they know which one to save?
|>
|> | --
|> | Gary S. Terhune
|> | MS-MVP Shell/User
|> | www.grystmill.com
|> |
|> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
|> | news:elLXdomeIHA.4144@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|> |> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
|> |> | Have not!! I have poodles. Lots! And breeding more.
|> |>
|> |> I guess I lost count, maybe-- but no amount of poodles will help
|> |> once you've run out of toes! How many years has that
|> |> Schwarzenegger got left?
|> |>
|> |> | --
|> |> | Gary S. Terhune
|> |> | MS-MVP Shell/User
|> |> | www.grystmill.com
|> |> |
|> |> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
|> |> | news:%23GaJqYbeIHA.4744@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
|> |> |> Franc Zabkar wrote:
|> |> |> | On 27 Feb 2008 04:12:07 GMT, thanatoid
|> |> |> | <waiting@the.exit.invalid> put finger to keyboard and
|> |> |> | composed:
|> |> |> |
|> |> |> |>(BTW, there is no such word as "governating".)
|> |> |> |
|> |> |> | You've probably never seen the BBC comedy series "Dead
|> |> |> | Ringers". "Governating" sounds like one of their Bush-isms.
|> |> |> |
|> |> |> |
|> |> |> | Then again, maybe PCR meant "gubernating".
|> |> |>
|> |> |> Goobernating? Of the Andy Griffith show? No! This is a lot
|> |> |> worse! I'm talking about Terhune's governor-- a terrible
|> |> |> machine from the future bent on destroying mankind! He's
|> |> |> starting in California by causing an earthquake with each
|> |> |> step-- & Terhune has fallen into 12 already!
|> |> |>
|> |> |> | - Franc Zabkar
|> |> |> | --
|> |> |> | Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
|> |> |>
|> |> |> --
|> |> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> |> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> |> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> |> |> Should things get worse after this,
|> |> |> PCR
|> |> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
|> |>
|> |> --
|> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> |> Should things get worse after this,
|> |> PCR
|> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

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Should things get worse after this,
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[Oliver W]

In message <#czEDN0eIHA.1900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, PCR
<pcrrcp@netzero.net> writes
(irrelevant lines deleted)
>| Directory of E:\Computing\PC\Linux
>|
>| MISC <DIR> 11/04/04 18:12 Misc
>| MANDRAKE <DIR> 14/05/04 20:40 Mandrake
>| WIN-UX <DIR> 27/03/07 21:45 Win-Ux
>| UBUNTU <DIR> 20/04/07 15:32 Ubuntu
>
>Going by those dates, WIN-UX was created 3 years after Linux, MISC &
>MANDRAKE. Also, it preceded UBUNTU by a month. Therefore, it didn't come
>in with the install or download of those.
>
>(a) Do you remember creating the WIN-UX directory?
No, but I made this note in a notebook on that day (27Mar07):
Turnpike problem: "offline" mail reader says "Turnpike is logging out" &
won't log in, inc. after exit and restart Turnpike Connect. Try Windows
reboot -> OK.
FYI: Turnpike is a non-Microsoft Internet suite (email, connection,
address book, newsreader etc.), originally from Demon UK)
No other notes for that date, from which it does not follow that I
didn't do anything!

>(b) Do you have any folders or files with the date 27/03/07,
> on any partition?
Yes: 43 on E:, mostly for two web pages one about replacing a
motherboard on a PC with XP and one about the XP EULA for OEMs (these
html files are timed 22:14 and their associated image and js files are
22:07, none are nearer to 21:45)
File types for this web page: htm, html, jpeg, js, gif, png
The 2 web pages are in E:\Computing\PC\WinXP and the other files are in
E:\<other path>

Also, on C:
\WINDOWS\APPLOG\PGPTRAY.LGC 27/03/07 21:35, size 16 KB: text file, not
containing even the string "APP". I never in fact used PGP (it came with
an email application Turnpike).
A WinZip cookie timed 20:29

>| BTW (to PCR). I set my Windows Explorer options to show all file
>| extensions and to show system and hidden files years ago!
>
>Very good! Then nothing was deleted with that DELTREE than the one
>unwanted file.
(and the folder) Correct.

>| Verdict so far: I got rid of the mysterious file but I don't know what
>| created it or what kind of status bits caused "access denied".
>
>That is still a mystery. I can only guess the file had some kind of
>corruption that thwarted the ATTRIB command & even the Windows GUI
>method to remove the attribute.
>
>Did you say Windows wouldn't delete it? I get a requestor from Windows
>stating the file is Read-Only, but it allows the file to be deleted. I
>do see DEL in Windows DOS does refuse, though...
I don't remember exactly. I assume I tried to delete it via WinExplorer,
found that was refused, then looked at the attributes and tried
unsuccessfully to change from ReadOnly.

I noticed this file originally when I used WinZip to make a backup
archive of parts of E: and sorted the resulting file list in descending
date order. If something similar happens again I'll try to record a
little more about what I was doing.

--
Oliver
(replies to the "Reply-to:" address will reach me
unless spam is sent to it, after which all its mail will
be discarded}.

 

[PCR]

Oliver W wrote:
| In message <#czEDN0eIHA.1900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, PCR
| <pcrrcp@netzero.net> writes
| (irrelevant lines deleted)
|>| Directory of E:\Computing\PC\Linux
|>|
|>| MISC <DIR> 11/04/04 18:12 Misc
|>| MANDRAKE <DIR> 14/05/04 20:40 Mandrake
|>| WIN-UX <DIR> 27/03/07 21:45 Win-Ux
|>| UBUNTU <DIR> 20/04/07 15:32 Ubuntu
|>
|>Going by those dates, WIN-UX was created 3 years after Linux, MISC &
|>MANDRAKE. Also, it preceded UBUNTU by a month. Therefore, it didn't
|>come in with the install or download of those.
|>
|>(a) Do you remember creating the WIN-UX directory?
|>
| No, but I made this note in a notebook on that day (27Mar07):
| Turnpike problem: "offline" mail reader says "Turnpike is logging
| out" & won't log in, inc. after exit and restart Turnpike Connect.
| Try Windows reboot -> OK.
| FYI: Turnpike is a non-Microsoft Internet suite (email, connection,
| address book, newsreader etc.), originally from Demon UK)
| No other notes for that date, from which it does not follow that I
| didn't do anything!
|

Hmm. Some kind of crash on the same day a folder was created that
contained that empty E--APPRO.PRI file. (The file itself you posted had
corrupt dates of the future.) Maybe speak to the Turnpike people about
whether they use such files-- but they might not even know. And I can't
think why they wouldn't put it into a folder of their own (like maybe
C:\Program Files\Turnpike), instead of where it ended up. Of course, as
Turnpike governs internet access, it could as well have been something
else in the midst of creating that file when the access was interrupted.

|>(b) Do you have any folders or files with the date 27/03/07,
|> on any partition?
|>
| Yes: 43 on E:, mostly for two web pages one about replacing a
| motherboard on a PC with XP and one about the XP EULA for OEMs (these
| html files are timed 22:14 and their associated image and js files are
| 22:07, none are nearer to 21:45)
| File types for this web page: htm, html, jpeg, js, gif, png
| The 2 web pages are in E:\Computing\PC\WinXP and the other files are
| in E:\<other path>
|

These are WEB pages you saved to a folder not terribly far from the one
that contains the errant file. As Brian A. posted,...
http://www.compuphase.com/graphic/polyraster.htm

....that file type could/does have to do with the display of images. It
should have various sized images in it, though, & not be empty. I can
think it might have to do save of a WEB page to the wrong folder that
itself was interrupted by the crash of Turnpike, or some other kind of
mishap. Maybe, the page just came in bad for some reason, or you
canceled it before it could finish.

| Also, on C:
| \WINDOWS\APPLOG\PGPTRAY.LGC 27/03/07 21:35, size 16 KB: text file, not
| containing even the string "APP". I never in fact used PGP (it came
| with an email application Turnpike).

Turnpike must have invoked it on that day for it to appear in that
folder. .Lgc files are used during Defrag to come up with
"C:\WINDOWS\APPLOG\OPTLOG.TXT".

| A WinZip cookie timed 20:29

Cookies won't involve that folder, but will go to C:\Windows\Cookies
(under normal conditions).

|>| BTW (to PCR). I set my Windows Explorer options to show all file
|>| extensions and to show system and hidden files years ago!
|>
|>Very good! Then nothing was deleted with that DELTREE than the one
|>unwanted file.
| (and the folder) Correct.
|
|>| Verdict so far: I got rid of the mysterious file but I don't know
|>| what created it or what kind of status bits caused "access denied".
|>
|>That is still a mystery. I can only guess the file had some kind of
|>corruption that thwarted the ATTRIB command & even the Windows GUI
|>method to remove the attribute.
|>
|>Did you say Windows wouldn't delete it? I get a requestor from Windows
|>stating the file is Read-Only, but it allows the file to be deleted. I
|>do see DEL in Windows DOS does refuse, though...
|>
| I don't remember exactly. I assume I tried to delete it via
| WinExplorer, found that was refused, then looked at the attributes
| and tried unsuccessfully to change from ReadOnly.
|

That's probably what happened. I guess Windows wouldn't do it because
the file was corrupt. However, I don't know, maybe it might have done it
after ScanDisk repaired the dates.

| I noticed this file originally when I used WinZip to make a backup
| archive of parts of E: and sorted the resulting file list in
| descending date order. If something similar happens again I'll try to
| record a little more about what I was doing.

Hopefully, it won't be as much as was going on that first time-- with
crashes, WEB page saves, & 43 files or folders with that same date! But
you may be seeing most ot them in TIFs...

"Control Panel, Internet Options, Settings button"
Where does it say Temporary Internet Files are located?

Is that where you saw most of the activity on that day?

| --
| Oliver
| (replies to the "Reply-to:" address will reach me
| unless spam is sent to it, after which all its mail will
| be discarded}.

--
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Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
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