registry help,please!

J

JS

Greetings,
Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the mode
where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5 "command prompt
only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all I see is the
C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started again. I put in the # 5
and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on both. It also said to run
scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the command I use to start that?
Do I need C: only? what are the other two symbols for? Any other suggestions
are appreciated.
Jim
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based upon date,
not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of the Command
Prompt.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Greetings,
> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the mode
> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5 "command
> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all I see
> is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started again. I put in
> the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on both. It also
> said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the command I use
> to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the other two symbols for? Any
> other suggestions are appreciated.
> Jim
>
 
J

JS

So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command prompt only"
to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?
I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what you mean
by "chose backup"?
Thanks Gary,
Jim
"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based upon
> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of the
> Command Prompt.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Greetings,
>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the mode
>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5 "command
>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all I see
>> is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started again. I put in
>> the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on both. It also
>> said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the command I use
>> to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the other two symbols for? Any
>> other suggestions are appreciated.
>> Jim
>>

>
 
J

JS

OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended memory
driver. Something about himem.sys
It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys
How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be covered on
the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for business.
Thanks,
Jim
"JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command prompt
> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?
> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what you mean
> by "chose backup"?
> Thanks Gary,
> Jim
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based upon
>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of the
>> Command Prompt.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Greetings,
>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the mode
>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5 "command
>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all I
>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started again. I
>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on both.
>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the
>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the other two
>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.
>>> Jim
>>>

>>

>
>
 
B

Bill Blanton

Make sure not to choose "Safe mode command prompt".
Choose "Command prompt only". Then type the command.



"JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended memory driver. Something about himem.sys
> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys
> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be covered on the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is
> for business.
> Thanks,
> Jim
> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command prompt only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?
>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what you mean by "chose backup"?
>> Thanks Gary,
>> Jim
>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based upon date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the
>>> arcania of the Command Prompt.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>
>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Greetings,
>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the mode where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc.
>>>> The #5 "command prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all I see is the C:\> . What command do I put
>>>> in to get it started again. I put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on both. It also said to run
>>>> scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the other two symbols
>>>> for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

Thanks for that Bill. It was driving me mad knowing I was forgetting
something -- though that's what I do these days, forget stuff. Did that
help, JS?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Bill Blanton" <bblanton@REMOVEmagicnet.net> wrote in message
news:OiuDOzYgIHA.5752@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Make sure not to choose "Safe mode command prompt".
> Choose "Command prompt only". Then type the command.
>
>
>
> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended memory
>> driver. Something about himem.sys
>> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys
>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be covered
>> on the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for business.
>> Thanks,
>> Jim
>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command prompt
>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?
>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what you
>>> mean by "chose backup"?
>>> Thanks Gary,
>>> Jim
>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based upon
>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of the
>>>> Command Prompt.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>
>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the
>>>>> mode where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5
>>>>> "command prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another,
>>>>> and all I see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started
>>>>> again. I put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad
>>>>> command" on both. It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is
>>>>> "scanreg" the command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are
>>>>> the other two symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.
>>>>> Jim
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>
 
B

Bill Blanton

You're welcome Gary, but after re-reading his OP, I'm not sure he
wasn't at "Command prompt only". Even though that "should" have worked.

JS, if that fails, download and create a 98 boot disk from http://www.bootdisk.com/ ,
and try running the command from a floppy boot.




"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:Ow$%2362YgIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Thanks for that Bill. It was driving me mad knowing I was forgetting something -- though that's what I do these days, forget
> stuff. Did that help, JS?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "Bill Blanton" <bblanton@REMOVEmagicnet.net> wrote in message news:OiuDOzYgIHA.5752@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Make sure not to choose "Safe mode command prompt".
>> Choose "Command prompt only". Then type the command.
>>
>>
>>
>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended memory driver. Something about himem.sys
>>> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys
>>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be covered on the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it
>>> is for business.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jim
>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command prompt only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right
>>>> now?
>>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what you mean by "chose backup"?
>>>> Thanks Gary,
>>>> Jim
>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based upon date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the
>>>>> arcania of the Command Prompt.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>
>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the mode where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc.
>>>>>> The #5 "command prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all I see is the C:\> . What command do I put
>>>>>> in to get it started again. I put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on both. It also said to run
>>>>>> scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the other two symbols
>>>>>> for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.
>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

I have a whole "fix HIMEM.SYS error" post ready, along with the minor other
OP issues (what's a Command Prompt look like?), but considering my current
mental issues, I'd probably get it all wrong. Tell you what, I'll post it
and let YOU handle the follow-up, <eg>.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Bill Blanton" <bblanton@REMOVEmagicnet.net> wrote in message
news:Oeu$TBZgIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> You're welcome Gary, but after re-reading his OP, I'm not sure he
> wasn't at "Command prompt only". Even though that "should" have worked.
>
> JS, if that fails, download and create a 98 boot disk from
> http://www.bootdisk.com/ ,
> and try running the command from a floppy boot.
>
>
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:Ow$%2362YgIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks for that Bill. It was driving me mad knowing I was forgetting
>> something -- though that's what I do these days, forget stuff. Did that
>> help, JS?
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "Bill Blanton" <bblanton@REMOVEmagicnet.net> wrote in message
>> news:OiuDOzYgIHA.5752@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Make sure not to choose "Safe mode command prompt".
>>> Choose "Command prompt only". Then type the command.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended memory
>>>> driver. Something about himem.sys
>>>> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys
>>>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be covered
>>>> on the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for
>>>> business.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jim
>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command prompt
>>>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?
>>>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what you
>>>>> mean by "chose backup"?
>>>>> Thanks Gary,
>>>>> Jim
>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based upon
>>>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of the
>>>>>> Command Prompt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the
>>>>>>> mode where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5
>>>>>>> "command prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another,
>>>>>>> and all I see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it
>>>>>>> started again. I put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got
>>>>>>> "bad command" on both. It also said to run scanreg when it gets
>>>>>>> started. Is "scanreg" the command I use to start that? Do I need C:
>>>>>>> only? what are the other two symbols for? Any other suggestions are
>>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

(Be sure to read all the way through before doing anything.)

Your symptoms point to a possible RAM failure. Suggest you stop right here
and test your RAM using floppy-based tools like, DocMemory from
http://www.simmtester.com/. See here for lots more RAM diagnostic hints:
http://tinyurl.com/2wehd3 If a day's worth of testing doesn't show a
problem, then continue.

"C:\>" IS the Command Prompt. The '>' character is the Prompt part, the
'C:\' part is the Directory in which the Prompt is set to exist. Unless you
need to change the root directory (C:\), that part of the command is
inherent -- you only HAVE TO input what comes after that, but you CAN input
C:\ to start new commands if you want to.

OK, we'll do it step by step. Each line below that is in ALL CAPS is a
command or data input -- input those lines and press enter at the end of
those lines. (You don't have to use ALL CAPS, it's just a way to help you
read this message.) You do all this from a floppy boot disk, of course.

First, determine if HIMEM.SYS exists in C:\WINDOWS with this command:
DIR C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

Do you get an error or do you get file info for HIMEM.SYS? If error, quit
now and report back. We'll go looking for it. But, assuming the file is
where we expect it to be -- it usually is but may be elsewhere in older DOS
and/or WIN95 that have been upgraded, or new but modified 98/98SE systems --
continue with the following:

EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS
(That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X to close the file.
Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended memory
> driver. Something about himem.sys
> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys
> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be covered on
> the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for business.
> Thanks,
> Jim
> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command prompt
>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?
>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what you
>> mean by "chose backup"?
>> Thanks Gary,
>> Jim
>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based upon
>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of the
>>> Command Prompt.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>
>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Greetings,
>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the mode
>>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5 "command
>>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all I
>>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started again. I
>>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on both.
>>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the
>>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the other two
>>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

Referring to this portion:

> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS
> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)
> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>
> Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X to close the
> file.
> Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?


When you first open CONFIG.SYS, you need to press END and then ENTER before
inputting the new line.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:%23XS434ZgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> (Be sure to read all the way through before doing anything.)
>
> Your symptoms point to a possible RAM failure. Suggest you stop right here
> and test your RAM using floppy-based tools like, DocMemory from
> http://www.simmtester.com/. See here for lots more RAM diagnostic hints:
> http://tinyurl.com/2wehd3 If a day's worth of testing doesn't show a
> problem, then continue.
>
> "C:\>" IS the Command Prompt. The '>' character is the Prompt part, the
> 'C:\' part is the Directory in which the Prompt is set to exist. Unless
> you
> need to change the root directory (C:\), that part of the command is
> inherent -- you only HAVE TO input what comes after that, but you CAN
> input
> C:\ to start new commands if you want to.
>
> OK, we'll do it step by step. Each line below that is in ALL CAPS is a
> command or data input -- input those lines and press enter at the end of
> those lines. (You don't have to use ALL CAPS, it's just a way to help you
> read this message.) You do all this from a floppy boot disk, of course.
>
> First, determine if HIMEM.SYS exists in C:\WINDOWS with this command:
> DIR C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>
> Do you get an error or do you get file info for HIMEM.SYS? If error, quit
> now and report back. We'll go looking for it. But, assuming the file is
> where we expect it to be -- it usually is but may be elsewhere in older
> DOS
> and/or WIN95 that have been upgraded, or new but modified 98/98SE
> systems --
> continue with the following:
>
> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS
> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)
> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>
> Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X to close the
> file.
> Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended memory
>> driver. Something about himem.sys
>> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys
>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be covered
>> on
>> the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for business.
>> Thanks,
>> Jim
>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command prompt
>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?
>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what you
>>> mean by "chose backup"?
>>> Thanks Gary,
>>> Jim
>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based upon
>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of the
>>>> Command Prompt.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>
>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the
>>>>> mode
>>>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5 "command
>>>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all I
>>>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started again. I
>>>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on
>>>>> both.
>>>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the
>>>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the other two
>>>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.
>>>>> Jim
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

CORRECTION: Referring to the following part:
> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS
> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)
> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS


Before you can input anything, press END and then ENTER, to get a new line.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:%23XS434ZgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> (Be sure to read all the way through before doing anything.)
>
> Your symptoms point to a possible RAM failure. Suggest you stop right here
> and test your RAM using floppy-based tools like, DocMemory from
> http://www.simmtester.com/. See here for lots more RAM diagnostic hints:
> http://tinyurl.com/2wehd3 If a day's worth of testing doesn't show a
> problem, then continue.
>
> "C:\>" IS the Command Prompt. The '>' character is the Prompt part, the
> 'C:\' part is the Directory in which the Prompt is set to exist. Unless
> you
> need to change the root directory (C:\), that part of the command is
> inherent -- you only HAVE TO input what comes after that, but you CAN
> input
> C:\ to start new commands if you want to.
>
> OK, we'll do it step by step. Each line below that is in ALL CAPS is a
> command or data input -- input those lines and press enter at the end of
> those lines. (You don't have to use ALL CAPS, it's just a way to help you
> read this message.) You do all this from a floppy boot disk, of course.
>
> First, determine if HIMEM.SYS exists in C:\WINDOWS with this command:
> DIR C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>
> Do you get an error or do you get file info for HIMEM.SYS? If error, quit
> now and report back. We'll go looking for it. But, assuming the file is
> where we expect it to be -- it usually is but may be elsewhere in older
> DOS
> and/or WIN95 that have been upgraded, or new but modified 98/98SE
> systems --
> continue with the following:
>
> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS
> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)
> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>
> Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X to close the
> file.
> Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended memory
>> driver. Something about himem.sys
>> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys
>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be covered
>> on
>> the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for business.
>> Thanks,
>> Jim
>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command prompt
>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?
>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what you
>>> mean by "chose backup"?
>>> Thanks Gary,
>>> Jim
>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based upon
>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of the
>>>> Command Prompt.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>
>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the
>>>>> mode
>>>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5 "command
>>>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all I
>>>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started again. I
>>>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on
>>>>> both.
>>>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the
>>>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the other two
>>>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.
>>>>> Jim
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
 
J

JS

ok guys, I am a little confused on the order of things that I am supposed to
do.
I did scanreg and it told me about the himem and extended memory driver.
I have made a boot disk,(although I am not sure what to do with it and
when.)
I did the edit c:config.sys thing in the blue screen(C:config.sys on top) I
added the "device" line here.
When I did the alt-f-s , a search thing came up.I didnt know what to do
then, so I esc and did alt f-x and it said it was saved.
I use the reset button to restart and nothing is different.Still comes up in
the setup with command prompt only highlighted.
I am pretty good on the step-by-step concept, so if you can tell me what to
do next, I would appreciate it.
Thanks for your help,
Jim

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:%23GIga$ZgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> CORRECTION: Referring to the following part:
>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS
>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)
>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>
> Before you can input anything, press END and then ENTER, to get a new
> line.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:%23XS434ZgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> (Be sure to read all the way through before doing anything.)
>>
>> Your symptoms point to a possible RAM failure. Suggest you stop right
>> here
>> and test your RAM using floppy-based tools like, DocMemory from
>> http://www.simmtester.com/. See here for lots more RAM diagnostic hints:
>> http://tinyurl.com/2wehd3 If a day's worth of testing doesn't show a
>> problem, then continue.
>>
>> "C:\>" IS the Command Prompt. The '>' character is the Prompt part, the
>> 'C:\' part is the Directory in which the Prompt is set to exist. Unless
>> you
>> need to change the root directory (C:\), that part of the command is
>> inherent -- you only HAVE TO input what comes after that, but you CAN
>> input
>> C:\ to start new commands if you want to.
>>
>> OK, we'll do it step by step. Each line below that is in ALL CAPS is a
>> command or data input -- input those lines and press enter at the end of
>> those lines. (You don't have to use ALL CAPS, it's just a way to help you
>> read this message.) You do all this from a floppy boot disk, of course.
>>
>> First, determine if HIMEM.SYS exists in C:\WINDOWS with this command:
>> DIR C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>
>> Do you get an error or do you get file info for HIMEM.SYS? If error, quit
>> now and report back. We'll go looking for it. But, assuming the file is
>> where we expect it to be -- it usually is but may be elsewhere in older
>> DOS
>> and/or WIN95 that have been upgraded, or new but modified 98/98SE
>> systems --
>> continue with the following:
>>
>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS
>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)
>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>
>> Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X to close the
>> file.
>> Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended memory
>>> driver. Something about himem.sys
>>> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys
>>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be covered
>>> on
>>> the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for business.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jim
>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command prompt
>>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?
>>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what you
>>>> mean by "chose backup"?
>>>> Thanks Gary,
>>>> Jim
>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based upon
>>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of the
>>>>> Command Prompt.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>
>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the
>>>>>> mode
>>>>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5 "command
>>>>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all I
>>>>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started again. I
>>>>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on
>>>>>> both.
>>>>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the
>>>>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the other
>>>>>> two
>>>>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.
>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

OK, now I need to make sure what's what:

Your machine won't start normally, or will it?

When you currently start, without a floppy boot disk, you get an option
"Command Prompt Only" and no other option? Or is that just the one that's
highlighted? Or are you simply trying to run SCANREG?

Is it only when you get the Command Prompt and run SCANREG that you get the
memory errors?

Do you know what made your machine crashing the first place? Does it do it
often?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message
news:%23C90PaggIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> ok guys, I am a little confused on the order of things that I am supposed
> to do.
> I did scanreg and it told me about the himem and extended memory driver.
> I have made a boot disk,(although I am not sure what to do with it and
> when.)
> I did the edit c:config.sys thing in the blue screen(C:config.sys on top)
> I added the "device" line here.
> When I did the alt-f-s , a search thing came up.I didnt know what to do
> then, so I esc and did alt f-x and it said it was saved.
> I use the reset button to restart and nothing is different.Still comes up
> in the setup with command prompt only highlighted.
> I am pretty good on the step-by-step concept, so if you can tell me what
> to do next, I would appreciate it.
> Thanks for your help,
> Jim
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:%23GIga$ZgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> CORRECTION: Referring to the following part:
>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS
>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)
>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>
>> Before you can input anything, press END and then ENTER, to get a new
>> line.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> news:%23XS434ZgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> (Be sure to read all the way through before doing anything.)
>>>
>>> Your symptoms point to a possible RAM failure. Suggest you stop right
>>> here
>>> and test your RAM using floppy-based tools like, DocMemory from
>>> http://www.simmtester.com/. See here for lots more RAM diagnostic hints:
>>> http://tinyurl.com/2wehd3 If a day's worth of testing doesn't show a
>>> problem, then continue.
>>>
>>> "C:\>" IS the Command Prompt. The '>' character is the Prompt part, the
>>> 'C:\' part is the Directory in which the Prompt is set to exist. Unless
>>> you
>>> need to change the root directory (C:\), that part of the command is
>>> inherent -- you only HAVE TO input what comes after that, but you CAN
>>> input
>>> C:\ to start new commands if you want to.
>>>
>>> OK, we'll do it step by step. Each line below that is in ALL CAPS is a
>>> command or data input -- input those lines and press enter at the end of
>>> those lines. (You don't have to use ALL CAPS, it's just a way to help
>>> you
>>> read this message.) You do all this from a floppy boot disk, of course.
>>>
>>> First, determine if HIMEM.SYS exists in C:\WINDOWS with this command:
>>> DIR C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>
>>> Do you get an error or do you get file info for HIMEM.SYS? If error,
>>> quit
>>> now and report back. We'll go looking for it. But, assuming the file is
>>> where we expect it to be -- it usually is but may be elsewhere in older
>>> DOS
>>> and/or WIN95 that have been upgraded, or new but modified 98/98SE
>>> systems --
>>> continue with the following:
>>>
>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS
>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)
>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>
>>> Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X to close the
>>> file.
>>> Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>
>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended memory
>>>> driver. Something about himem.sys
>>>> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys
>>>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be covered
>>>> on
>>>> the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for business.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jim
>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command prompt
>>>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?
>>>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what you
>>>>> mean by "chose backup"?
>>>>> Thanks Gary,
>>>>> Jim
>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based upon
>>>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of the
>>>>>> Command Prompt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the
>>>>>>> mode
>>>>>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5
>>>>>>> "command
>>>>>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started again.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on
>>>>>>> both.
>>>>>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the
>>>>>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the other
>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.
>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>

>
>
 
J

JS

BTW, I tried to download the docmemory software, but it would not download.
I kept getting bad argument msgs(?)
"JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message
news:%23C90PaggIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> ok guys, I am a little confused on the order of things that I am supposed
> to do.
> I did scanreg and it told me about the himem and extended memory driver.
> I have made a boot disk,(although I am not sure what to do with it and
> when.)
> I did the edit c:config.sys thing in the blue screen(C:config.sys on top)
> I added the "device" line here.
> When I did the alt-f-s , a search thing came up.I didnt know what to do
> then, so I esc and did alt f-x and it said it was saved.
> I use the reset button to restart and nothing is different.Still comes up
> in the setup with command prompt only highlighted.
> I am pretty good on the step-by-step concept, so if you can tell me what
> to do next, I would appreciate it.
> Thanks for your help,
> Jim
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:%23GIga$ZgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> CORRECTION: Referring to the following part:
>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS
>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)
>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>
>> Before you can input anything, press END and then ENTER, to get a new
>> line.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> news:%23XS434ZgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> (Be sure to read all the way through before doing anything.)
>>>
>>> Your symptoms point to a possible RAM failure. Suggest you stop right
>>> here
>>> and test your RAM using floppy-based tools like, DocMemory from
>>> http://www.simmtester.com/. See here for lots more RAM diagnostic hints:
>>> http://tinyurl.com/2wehd3 If a day's worth of testing doesn't show a
>>> problem, then continue.
>>>
>>> "C:\>" IS the Command Prompt. The '>' character is the Prompt part, the
>>> 'C:\' part is the Directory in which the Prompt is set to exist. Unless
>>> you
>>> need to change the root directory (C:\), that part of the command is
>>> inherent -- you only HAVE TO input what comes after that, but you CAN
>>> input
>>> C:\ to start new commands if you want to.
>>>
>>> OK, we'll do it step by step. Each line below that is in ALL CAPS is a
>>> command or data input -- input those lines and press enter at the end of
>>> those lines. (You don't have to use ALL CAPS, it's just a way to help
>>> you
>>> read this message.) You do all this from a floppy boot disk, of course.
>>>
>>> First, determine if HIMEM.SYS exists in C:\WINDOWS with this command:
>>> DIR C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>
>>> Do you get an error or do you get file info for HIMEM.SYS? If error,
>>> quit
>>> now and report back. We'll go looking for it. But, assuming the file is
>>> where we expect it to be -- it usually is but may be elsewhere in older
>>> DOS
>>> and/or WIN95 that have been upgraded, or new but modified 98/98SE
>>> systems --
>>> continue with the following:
>>>
>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS
>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)
>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>
>>> Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X to close the
>>> file.
>>> Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>
>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended memory
>>>> driver. Something about himem.sys
>>>> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys
>>>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be covered
>>>> on
>>>> the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for business.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jim
>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command prompt
>>>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?
>>>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what you
>>>>> mean by "chose backup"?
>>>>> Thanks Gary,
>>>>> Jim
>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based upon
>>>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of the
>>>>>> Command Prompt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the
>>>>>>> mode
>>>>>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5
>>>>>>> "command
>>>>>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started again.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on
>>>>>>> both.
>>>>>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the
>>>>>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the other
>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.
>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>

>
>
 
J

JS

Also, if it could be a bad memory, I have a spare memory stick I could put
in there to try. Good or Bad idea?
"JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message
news:%23C90PaggIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> ok guys, I am a little confused on the order of things that I am supposed
> to do.
> I did scanreg and it told me about the himem and extended memory driver.
> I have made a boot disk,(although I am not sure what to do with it and
> when.)
> I did the edit c:config.sys thing in the blue screen(C:config.sys on top)
> I added the "device" line here.
> When I did the alt-f-s , a search thing came up.I didnt know what to do
> then, so I esc and did alt f-x and it said it was saved.
> I use the reset button to restart and nothing is different.Still comes up
> in the setup with command prompt only highlighted.
> I am pretty good on the step-by-step concept, so if you can tell me what
> to do next, I would appreciate it.
> Thanks for your help,
> Jim
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:%23GIga$ZgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> CORRECTION: Referring to the following part:
>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS
>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)
>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>
>> Before you can input anything, press END and then ENTER, to get a new
>> line.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> news:%23XS434ZgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> (Be sure to read all the way through before doing anything.)
>>>
>>> Your symptoms point to a possible RAM failure. Suggest you stop right
>>> here
>>> and test your RAM using floppy-based tools like, DocMemory from
>>> http://www.simmtester.com/. See here for lots more RAM diagnostic hints:
>>> http://tinyurl.com/2wehd3 If a day's worth of testing doesn't show a
>>> problem, then continue.
>>>
>>> "C:\>" IS the Command Prompt. The '>' character is the Prompt part, the
>>> 'C:\' part is the Directory in which the Prompt is set to exist. Unless
>>> you
>>> need to change the root directory (C:\), that part of the command is
>>> inherent -- you only HAVE TO input what comes after that, but you CAN
>>> input
>>> C:\ to start new commands if you want to.
>>>
>>> OK, we'll do it step by step. Each line below that is in ALL CAPS is a
>>> command or data input -- input those lines and press enter at the end of
>>> those lines. (You don't have to use ALL CAPS, it's just a way to help
>>> you
>>> read this message.) You do all this from a floppy boot disk, of course.
>>>
>>> First, determine if HIMEM.SYS exists in C:\WINDOWS with this command:
>>> DIR C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>
>>> Do you get an error or do you get file info for HIMEM.SYS? If error,
>>> quit
>>> now and report back. We'll go looking for it. But, assuming the file is
>>> where we expect it to be -- it usually is but may be elsewhere in older
>>> DOS
>>> and/or WIN95 that have been upgraded, or new but modified 98/98SE
>>> systems --
>>> continue with the following:
>>>
>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS
>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)
>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>
>>> Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X to close the
>>> file.
>>> Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>
>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended memory
>>>> driver. Something about himem.sys
>>>> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys
>>>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be covered
>>>> on
>>>> the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for business.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jim
>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command prompt
>>>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?
>>>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what you
>>>>> mean by "chose backup"?
>>>>> Thanks Gary,
>>>>> Jim
>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based upon
>>>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of the
>>>>>> Command Prompt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the
>>>>>>> mode
>>>>>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5
>>>>>>> "command
>>>>>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started again.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on
>>>>>>> both.
>>>>>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the
>>>>>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the other
>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.
>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>

>
>
 
J

JS

I did some things on my own here. I downloaded the "windows memory
diagnostic and put that floppy in and tried to start, just before it goes
into the setup screen, I get a msg(just like with the bootdisk)" remove
media and enter".Then the same thing starts all over again.
"JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message
news:%23C90PaggIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> ok guys, I am a little confused on the order of things that I am supposed
> to do.
> I did scanreg and it told me about the himem and extended memory driver.
> I have made a boot disk,(although I am not sure what to do with it and
> when.)
> I did the edit c:config.sys thing in the blue screen(C:config.sys on top)
> I added the "device" line here.
> When I did the alt-f-s , a search thing came up.I didnt know what to do
> then, so I esc and did alt f-x and it said it was saved.
> I use the reset button to restart and nothing is different.Still comes up
> in the setup with command prompt only highlighted.
> I am pretty good on the step-by-step concept, so if you can tell me what
> to do next, I would appreciate it.
> Thanks for your help,
> Jim
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:%23GIga$ZgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> CORRECTION: Referring to the following part:
>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS
>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)
>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>
>> Before you can input anything, press END and then ENTER, to get a new
>> line.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> news:%23XS434ZgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> (Be sure to read all the way through before doing anything.)
>>>
>>> Your symptoms point to a possible RAM failure. Suggest you stop right
>>> here
>>> and test your RAM using floppy-based tools like, DocMemory from
>>> http://www.simmtester.com/. See here for lots more RAM diagnostic hints:
>>> http://tinyurl.com/2wehd3 If a day's worth of testing doesn't show a
>>> problem, then continue.
>>>
>>> "C:\>" IS the Command Prompt. The '>' character is the Prompt part, the
>>> 'C:\' part is the Directory in which the Prompt is set to exist. Unless
>>> you
>>> need to change the root directory (C:\), that part of the command is
>>> inherent -- you only HAVE TO input what comes after that, but you CAN
>>> input
>>> C:\ to start new commands if you want to.
>>>
>>> OK, we'll do it step by step. Each line below that is in ALL CAPS is a
>>> command or data input -- input those lines and press enter at the end of
>>> those lines. (You don't have to use ALL CAPS, it's just a way to help
>>> you
>>> read this message.) You do all this from a floppy boot disk, of course.
>>>
>>> First, determine if HIMEM.SYS exists in C:\WINDOWS with this command:
>>> DIR C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>
>>> Do you get an error or do you get file info for HIMEM.SYS? If error,
>>> quit
>>> now and report back. We'll go looking for it. But, assuming the file is
>>> where we expect it to be -- it usually is but may be elsewhere in older
>>> DOS
>>> and/or WIN95 that have been upgraded, or new but modified 98/98SE
>>> systems --
>>> continue with the following:
>>>
>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS
>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)
>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>
>>> Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X to close the
>>> file.
>>> Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>
>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended memory
>>>> driver. Something about himem.sys
>>>> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys
>>>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be covered
>>>> on
>>>> the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for business.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jim
>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command prompt
>>>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?
>>>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what you
>>>>> mean by "chose backup"?
>>>>> Thanks Gary,
>>>>> Jim
>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based upon
>>>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of the
>>>>>> Command Prompt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the
>>>>>>> mode
>>>>>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5
>>>>>>> "command
>>>>>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started again.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on
>>>>>>> both.
>>>>>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the
>>>>>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the other
>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.
>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>

>
>
 
J

JS

Ok, Gary, I think I have been skipping around a little.
1. my machine will not start normally.
2.I can only go to option #5"command prompt only"(shift-f5)
3.when I run scanreg, I get the msg thats says"you do not have extended
memory driver"
4.I got a critical update notice from MS and got online(dialup) and when I
clicked on "view updates" POW!
Is that better? I have made some other posts that may help or confuse
further. We'll get this done!
Thanks,
Jim
"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:e5PrWnggIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> OK, now I need to make sure what's what:
>
> Your machine won't start normally, or will it?
>
> When you currently start, without a floppy boot disk, you get an option
> "Command Prompt Only" and no other option? Or is that just the one that's
> highlighted? Or are you simply trying to run SCANREG?
>
> Is it only when you get the Command Prompt and run SCANREG that you get
> the memory errors?
>
> Do you know what made your machine crashing the first place? Does it do it
> often?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message
> news:%23C90PaggIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> ok guys, I am a little confused on the order of things that I am supposed
>> to do.
>> I did scanreg and it told me about the himem and extended memory driver.
>> I have made a boot disk,(although I am not sure what to do with it and
>> when.)
>> I did the edit c:config.sys thing in the blue screen(C:config.sys on top)
>> I added the "device" line here.
>> When I did the alt-f-s , a search thing came up.I didnt know what to do
>> then, so I esc and did alt f-x and it said it was saved.
>> I use the reset button to restart and nothing is different.Still comes up
>> in the setup with command prompt only highlighted.
>> I am pretty good on the step-by-step concept, so if you can tell me what
>> to do next, I would appreciate it.
>> Thanks for your help,
>> Jim
>>
>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> news:%23GIga$ZgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> CORRECTION: Referring to the following part:
>>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS
>>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)
>>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>
>>> Before you can input anything, press END and then ENTER, to get a new
>>> line.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>
>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>> news:%23XS434ZgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> (Be sure to read all the way through before doing anything.)
>>>>
>>>> Your symptoms point to a possible RAM failure. Suggest you stop right
>>>> here
>>>> and test your RAM using floppy-based tools like, DocMemory from
>>>> http://www.simmtester.com/. See here for lots more RAM diagnostic
>>>> hints:
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2wehd3 If a day's worth of testing doesn't show a
>>>> problem, then continue.
>>>>
>>>> "C:\>" IS the Command Prompt. The '>' character is the Prompt part, the
>>>> 'C:\' part is the Directory in which the Prompt is set to exist. Unless
>>>> you
>>>> need to change the root directory (C:\), that part of the command is
>>>> inherent -- you only HAVE TO input what comes after that, but you CAN
>>>> input
>>>> C:\ to start new commands if you want to.
>>>>
>>>> OK, we'll do it step by step. Each line below that is in ALL CAPS is a
>>>> command or data input -- input those lines and press enter at the end
>>>> of
>>>> those lines. (You don't have to use ALL CAPS, it's just a way to help
>>>> you
>>>> read this message.) You do all this from a floppy boot disk, of course.
>>>>
>>>> First, determine if HIMEM.SYS exists in C:\WINDOWS with this command:
>>>> DIR C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>>
>>>> Do you get an error or do you get file info for HIMEM.SYS? If error,
>>>> quit
>>>> now and report back. We'll go looking for it. But, assuming the file is
>>>> where we expect it to be -- it usually is but may be elsewhere in older
>>>> DOS
>>>> and/or WIN95 that have been upgraded, or new but modified 98/98SE
>>>> systems --
>>>> continue with the following:
>>>>
>>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS
>>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)
>>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>>
>>>> Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X to close the
>>>> file.
>>>> Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>
>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended memory
>>>>> driver. Something about himem.sys
>>>>> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys
>>>>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be
>>>>> covered on
>>>>> the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for business.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Jim
>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command
>>>>>> prompt
>>>>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?
>>>>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what you
>>>>>> mean by "chose backup"?
>>>>>> Thanks Gary,
>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based
>>>>>>> upon
>>>>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of the
>>>>>>> Command Prompt.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the
>>>>>>>> mode
>>>>>>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5
>>>>>>>> "command
>>>>>>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started again.
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on
>>>>>>>> both.
>>>>>>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the
>>>>>>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the other
>>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.
>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

"POW"? Froze the screen? Rebooted itself? Died altogether as if the cord was
pulled?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message
news:eNJba5ggIHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Ok, Gary, I think I have been skipping around a little.
> 1. my machine will not start normally.
> 2.I can only go to option #5"command prompt only"(shift-f5)
> 3.when I run scanreg, I get the msg thats says"you do not have extended
> memory driver"
> 4.I got a critical update notice from MS and got online(dialup) and when I
> clicked on "view updates" POW!
> Is that better? I have made some other posts that may help or confuse
> further. We'll get this done!
> Thanks,
> Jim
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:e5PrWnggIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> OK, now I need to make sure what's what:
>>
>> Your machine won't start normally, or will it?
>>
>> When you currently start, without a floppy boot disk, you get an option
>> "Command Prompt Only" and no other option? Or is that just the one that's
>> highlighted? Or are you simply trying to run SCANREG?
>>
>> Is it only when you get the Command Prompt and run SCANREG that you get
>> the memory errors?
>>
>> Do you know what made your machine crashing the first place? Does it do
>> it often?
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23C90PaggIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> ok guys, I am a little confused on the order of things that I am
>>> supposed to do.
>>> I did scanreg and it told me about the himem and extended memory driver.
>>> I have made a boot disk,(although I am not sure what to do with it and
>>> when.)
>>> I did the edit c:config.sys thing in the blue screen(C:config.sys on
>>> top) I added the "device" line here.
>>> When I did the alt-f-s , a search thing came up.I didnt know what to do
>>> then, so I esc and did alt f-x and it said it was saved.
>>> I use the reset button to restart and nothing is different.Still comes
>>> up in the setup with command prompt only highlighted.
>>> I am pretty good on the step-by-step concept, so if you can tell me what
>>> to do next, I would appreciate it.
>>> Thanks for your help,
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>> news:%23GIga$ZgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> CORRECTION: Referring to the following part:
>>>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS
>>>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)
>>>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>>
>>>> Before you can input anything, press END and then ENTER, to get a new
>>>> line.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>
>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23XS434ZgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> (Be sure to read all the way through before doing anything.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Your symptoms point to a possible RAM failure. Suggest you stop right
>>>>> here
>>>>> and test your RAM using floppy-based tools like, DocMemory from
>>>>> http://www.simmtester.com/. See here for lots more RAM diagnostic
>>>>> hints:
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2wehd3 If a day's worth of testing doesn't show a
>>>>> problem, then continue.
>>>>>
>>>>> "C:\>" IS the Command Prompt. The '>' character is the Prompt part,
>>>>> the
>>>>> 'C:\' part is the Directory in which the Prompt is set to exist.
>>>>> Unless you
>>>>> need to change the root directory (C:\), that part of the command is
>>>>> inherent -- you only HAVE TO input what comes after that, but you CAN
>>>>> input
>>>>> C:\ to start new commands if you want to.
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, we'll do it step by step. Each line below that is in ALL CAPS is a
>>>>> command or data input -- input those lines and press enter at the end
>>>>> of
>>>>> those lines. (You don't have to use ALL CAPS, it's just a way to help
>>>>> you
>>>>> read this message.) You do all this from a floppy boot disk, of
>>>>> course.
>>>>>
>>>>> First, determine if HIMEM.SYS exists in C:\WINDOWS with this command:
>>>>> DIR C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you get an error or do you get file info for HIMEM.SYS? If error,
>>>>> quit
>>>>> now and report back. We'll go looking for it. But, assuming the file
>>>>> is
>>>>> where we expect it to be -- it usually is but may be elsewhere in
>>>>> older DOS
>>>>> and/or WIN95 that have been upgraded, or new but modified 98/98SE
>>>>> systems --
>>>>> continue with the following:
>>>>>
>>>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS
>>>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)
>>>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X to close the
>>>>> file.
>>>>> Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>
>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended
>>>>>> memory
>>>>>> driver. Something about himem.sys
>>>>>> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys
>>>>>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be
>>>>>> covered on
>>>>>> the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for business.
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command
>>>>>>> prompt
>>>>>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?
>>>>>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> mean by "chose backup"?
>>>>>>> Thanks Gary,
>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based
>>>>>>>> upon
>>>>>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Command Prompt.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the
>>>>>>>>> mode
>>>>>>>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5
>>>>>>>>> "command
>>>>>>>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and
>>>>>>>>> all I
>>>>>>>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started
>>>>>>>>> again. I
>>>>>>>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on
>>>>>>>>> both.
>>>>>>>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the
>>>>>>>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the other
>>>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.
>>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

Only if it's for that motherboard. If it is meant for the motherboard then
swap it all out and put in the "spare", then maybe more swapping about until
you find the bad stick.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message
news:u6TK7rggIHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Also, if it could be a bad memory, I have a spare memory stick I could put
> in there to try. Good or Bad idea?
> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message
> news:%23C90PaggIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> ok guys, I am a little confused on the order of things that I am supposed
>> to do.
>> I did scanreg and it told me about the himem and extended memory driver.
>> I have made a boot disk,(although I am not sure what to do with it and
>> when.)
>> I did the edit c:config.sys thing in the blue screen(C:config.sys on top)
>> I added the "device" line here.
>> When I did the alt-f-s , a search thing came up.I didnt know what to do
>> then, so I esc and did alt f-x and it said it was saved.
>> I use the reset button to restart and nothing is different.Still comes up
>> in the setup with command prompt only highlighted.
>> I am pretty good on the step-by-step concept, so if you can tell me what
>> to do next, I would appreciate it.
>> Thanks for your help,
>> Jim
>>
>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> news:%23GIga$ZgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> CORRECTION: Referring to the following part:
>>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS
>>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)
>>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>
>>> Before you can input anything, press END and then ENTER, to get a new
>>> line.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>
>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>> news:%23XS434ZgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> (Be sure to read all the way through before doing anything.)
>>>>
>>>> Your symptoms point to a possible RAM failure. Suggest you stop right
>>>> here
>>>> and test your RAM using floppy-based tools like, DocMemory from
>>>> http://www.simmtester.com/. See here for lots more RAM diagnostic
>>>> hints:
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2wehd3 If a day's worth of testing doesn't show a
>>>> problem, then continue.
>>>>
>>>> "C:\>" IS the Command Prompt. The '>' character is the Prompt part, the
>>>> 'C:\' part is the Directory in which the Prompt is set to exist. Unless
>>>> you
>>>> need to change the root directory (C:\), that part of the command is
>>>> inherent -- you only HAVE TO input what comes after that, but you CAN
>>>> input
>>>> C:\ to start new commands if you want to.
>>>>
>>>> OK, we'll do it step by step. Each line below that is in ALL CAPS is a
>>>> command or data input -- input those lines and press enter at the end
>>>> of
>>>> those lines. (You don't have to use ALL CAPS, it's just a way to help
>>>> you
>>>> read this message.) You do all this from a floppy boot disk, of course.
>>>>
>>>> First, determine if HIMEM.SYS exists in C:\WINDOWS with this command:
>>>> DIR C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>>
>>>> Do you get an error or do you get file info for HIMEM.SYS? If error,
>>>> quit
>>>> now and report back. We'll go looking for it. But, assuming the file is
>>>> where we expect it to be -- it usually is but may be elsewhere in older
>>>> DOS
>>>> and/or WIN95 that have been upgraded, or new but modified 98/98SE
>>>> systems --
>>>> continue with the following:
>>>>
>>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS
>>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)
>>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>>
>>>> Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X to close the
>>>> file.
>>>> Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>
>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended memory
>>>>> driver. Something about himem.sys
>>>>> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys
>>>>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be
>>>>> covered on
>>>>> the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for business.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Jim
>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command
>>>>>> prompt
>>>>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?
>>>>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what you
>>>>>> mean by "chose backup"?
>>>>>> Thanks Gary,
>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based
>>>>>>> upon
>>>>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of the
>>>>>>> Command Prompt.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the
>>>>>>>> mode
>>>>>>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5
>>>>>>>> "command
>>>>>>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started again.
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on
>>>>>>>> both.
>>>>>>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the
>>>>>>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the other
>>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.
>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>
 
B

Ben Myers

"JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Greetings,
> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the mode
> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5 "command prompt
> only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all I see is the
> C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started again. I put in the # 5
> and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on both. It also said to run
> scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the command I use to start that?
> Do I need C: only? what are the other two symbols for? Any other suggestions
> are appreciated.
> Jim


Make sure the computer has a valid "c:\msdos.sys" file, something like this:

[Paths]
WinDir=C:\WINDOWS
WinBootDir=C:\WINDOWS
HostWinBootDrv=C
[Options]
BOOTGUI=1
end

Ben
 

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