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"thanatoid" <waiting@the.exit.invalid> wrote in message
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> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in
> news:ubjab9EoIHA.4672@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
>
> <SNIP>
>
> > Hey nice seeing .

>
> Likewise.
>
> > My regular newsserver is down right now so I've been
> > hanging out over here.

>
> You don't get 24hour.hd on this one?



My regular newsserver is now back on line...
and I have already started one of my odd-ball posts already


>
> > I don't think XP and Vista have
> > specific settings for cdrom speed...

>
> Well, it was just a joke... I actually think they WOULD have
> changed the specific options, EVEN THEY. But it was a similar
> thing - all it did was set the read-ahead caching (or something
> like that).
>


LOL!

It's funny...considering that I've never yet said anything with any degree
of seriousness...
and few people can understand my warped way of thinking...
when someone tells me a joke...I'm usually just as naive as the next
person...
as the joke sails over my head!

> Funny how /now/ many people (I among them) use "slow-down
> software" for CD-R drives. What's the hurry? WHO /needs/ to burn
> an 800MB CDR in 90 seconds???????? (Well, pirates do, in their
> little towers, that's why their CD-R's never play, at best you
> can read the directory, and that after 20 tries. Bought an "all
> pre-95 win/Dos versions" once and that's what happened. I doubt
> I just had particularly bad luck. While I /do/ admit to bad
> luck, the CD was for someone else anyway, he just didn't want to
> go downtown.)
>
> > but I do know that
> > Win2k and I believe XP...have the old dos editor "edlin"
> > .
> > I doubt if that was used past the mdsos4.01 days!

>
> I read somewhere there is still code from the 80's in Vista but
> of course that can't be verified.
>


Well, I did a three month evaluation of Vista and was not too crazy about
it...
but then all my machines have been made from discarded junk...
so I really don't have the H/W to properly evaluate it...
All I can say is that it's still got a few bugs in it...
but with new H/W it would probably be OK...
(not that anyone who buys a new machine is going to have much choice in the
matter)

OTOH: What I really liked about XP was it's great legacy support.
It was said that when XP came out...only new H/W would work...
but I have used all kinds of ISA devices and found that XP pretty much
supported it all.
Even though the ISA devices were generally configured automatically...
The manual configuration process was simplified in that only valid
combinations of IRQ's and com ports (for example)
were listed as choices.

> > As to NTFS, if you do use any form of NT...it really is the
> > preferable way to go.
> > I like it for it's fault-tolerance capabilites. It really
> > is more difficult to corrupt than fat.

>
> That could be - I hear a lot about fs corrupting, but it has
> never happened to me.
>
> > Of course, if a problem does turn up, it's a bit more
> > difficult to fix than by simply booting up with a dos
> > boot floppy

>
> I believe that's what the MVP was referring to do - very hard,
> sometimes impossible, to fix, so you lose a lot (or all) of your
> data but you are left with the good feeling that you were using
> a "superior' fs.
>
>



I do a fair amount of data recovery work and have had a considerably better
than average success rate...
simply because I have a very hard time giving up .

The biggest nightmare I had was when a friend of mine who is a professional
photographer mis-interpreted a S.M.A.R.T.
error. One of his 200 gig drives (NTFS) had developed a read/write error and
had been giving him a bios SMART error...
but ... as he had a film scanner that was called a "Smart Scanner" and he
thought the error code was concerning that.

I remember that he called me and simply said that his film scanner was
giving him an error code...
but it seemed to be working fine...and could I check it some time...no rush.

I did not get there for a few weeks and by that time the HD had developed
*extreme* problems.
He had hundreds of hours worth of Photoshop work and hundreds of hours worth
of scanned images from film
on that drive. Though all the originals were backed up and he still had the
film images for the rest...
He did not have the drive itself backed up.

Anyway...I eventually got about 98% of his data copied to another
drive...but perhaps 15% of the data were initially corrupted...
but the bottom line was that once the data were all copied over...even the
corrupted data were then usable.

Truth is I have never seen anything like that before...and don't know
why...but am quite thankful it turned out that way.
All I think of is that it was due to the NTFS ability to heal...due to the
more extensive MFT entries as opposed to fat?

Because most of my machines has removable drive bays...I have no problems
gaining access to any drive...
simply by popping it into one of my machines.

I consider NTFS as better...but hesitate to call it "superior" <G>
 
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thanatoid

"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in
news:ukXiq1UoIHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

<SNIP>

>> Well, it was just a joke... I actually think they WOULD
>> have changed the specific options, EVEN THEY. But it was a
>> similar thing - all it did was set the read-ahead caching
>> (or something like that).

>
> LOL!
>
> It's funny...considering that I've never yet said anything
> with any degree of seriousness...
> and few people can understand my warped way of thinking...
> when someone tells me a joke...I'm usually just as naive as
> the next person...
> as the joke sails over my head!


I do /sometimes/ say serious things, but more online than in RL.
Most people say I have no sense of humor and some say I have
almost one - I prefer to think they're just to stupid to keep
up. But when someone puts ME on, I am like the proverbial
helpless chile.

<SNIP>

> OTOH: What I really liked about XP was it's great legacy
> support. It was said that when XP came out...only new H/W
> would work... but I have used all kinds of ISA devices and
> found that XP pretty much supported it all.


That was nice of them. I guess they decided to do the "and now
for something completely different" thing with Vista!

> Even though the ISA devices were generally configured
> automatically... The manual configuration process was
> simplified in that only valid combinations of IRQ's and com
> ports (for example) were listed as choices.


I still remember IRQ nightmares. Just for nostalgia's sake (and
because I never read it before, I am reading The Mother of All
Windows Books (3.1 era) and just read about 50 pages on IRQ's.
Well, at least I now understand what they are exactly. I have
lots of opinions, but relatively little actual tech knowledge.

>> > As to NTFS, if you do use any form of NT...it really is
>> > the preferable way to go.
>> > I like it for it's fault-tolerance capabilites. It
>> > really is more difficult to corrupt than fat.

>>
>> That could be - I hear a lot about fs corrupting, but it
>> has never happened to me.
>>
>> > Of course, if a problem does turn up, it's a bit more
>> > difficult to fix than by simply booting up with a dos
>> > boot floppy

>>
>> I believe that's what the MVP was referring to do - very
>> hard, sometimes impossible, to fix, so you lose a lot (or
>> all) of your data but you are left with the good feeling
>> that you were using a "superior' fs.
>>

> I do a fair amount of data recovery work and have had a
> considerably better than average success rate...
> simply because I have a very hard time giving up .


That's an admirable quality. I share it to some extent, less
than in the past. It CAN be a little hard on the nerves.

<SNIP>

> I consider NTFS as better...but hesitate to call it
> "superior" <G>


Aha, you DID get that one!


--
The lonely child plays with eternity, while a gang of children
plays with time.

Karel Capek
 
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philo

<SNIP>
>
> > OTOH: What I really liked about XP was it's great legacy
> > support. It was said that when XP came out...only new H/W
> > would work... but I have used all kinds of ISA devices and
> > found that XP pretty much supported it all.

>
> That was nice of them. I guess they decided to do the "and now
> for something completely different" thing with Vista!
>
> > Even though the ISA devices were generally configured
> > automatically... The manual configuration process was
> > simplified in that only valid combinations of IRQ's and com
> > ports (for example) were listed as choices.

>
> I still remember IRQ nightmares. Just for nostalgia's sake (and
> because I never read it before, I am reading The Mother of All
> Windows Books (3.1 era) and just read about 50 pages on IRQ's.
> Well, at least I now understand what they are exactly. I have
> lots of opinions, but relatively little actual tech knowledge.
>
> >> > As to NTFS, if you do use any form of NT...it really is
> >> > the preferable way to go.
> >> > I like it for it's fault-tolerance capabilites. It
> >> > really is more difficult to corrupt than fat.
> >>
> >> That could be - I hear a lot about fs corrupting, but it
> >> has never happened to me.
> >>
> >> > Of course, if a problem does turn up, it's a bit more
> >> > difficult to fix than by simply booting up with a dos
> >> > boot floppy
> >>
> >> I believe that's what the MVP was referring to do - very
> >> hard, sometimes impossible, to fix, so you lose a lot (or
> >> all) of your data but you are left with the good feeling
> >> that you were using a "superior' fs.
> >>

> > I do a fair amount of data recovery work and have had a
> > considerably better than average success rate...
> > simply because I have a very hard time giving up .

>
> That's an admirable quality. I share it to some extent, less
> than in the past. It CAN be a little hard on the nerves.
>
> <SNIP>
>
> > I consider NTFS as better...but hesitate to call it
> > "superior" <G>

>
> Aha, you DID get that one!
>
>

Maybe <G>

Oh btw: concerning that "smokers" photo.

I did not reply back as my newsserver had gone down...

I also make similar comments about starting to smoke!

The photo has been on display in my GF's art gallery and has gotten
a number of favorable comments...however she's the one who's actually
selling.
No problem with that
 

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