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Franc Zabkar · May 15, 2008

identity
identifier
Identifying

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Franc Zabkar · May 15, 2008

On Thu, 15 May 2008 18:02:59 +1000, Franc Zabkar
<fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> put finger to keyboard and composed:

>identity
>identifier
>Identifying
>
>- Franc Zabkar

I have no idea what you mean by "RAM patch" unless it refers to
onboard graphics RAM chips and/or the BIOS EEPROM chip.

As for the E139761 identifier, it appears to be the "UL File Number
for Intel Pentium version motherboards: E139761 (Component side)".

Instead look for a "PB Part Number: Intel bare circuit board part
number (Solder side) eg. PB A22167-003".

Gateway Support - Identifying Your Motherboard:
http://support.gateway.com/s/MOTHERBD/INTEL/m00286/4000286su2.shtml

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Franc Zabkar · May 15, 2008

On Thu, 15 May 2008 18:02:59 +1000, Franc Zabkar
<fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> put finger to keyboard and composed:

>identity
>identifier
>Identifying
>
>- Franc Zabkar

http://www.datasheetarchive.com/preview/3857595.html

It contains your serial ports, parallel port, infrared, floppy
controller, game port/MIDI, keyboard controller, and fan control
logic.

In short, it tells you nothing about the identity of your motherboard.

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Franc Zabkar · May 15, 2008

On Thu, 15 May 2008 18:02:59 +1000, Franc Zabkar
<fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> put finger to keyboard and composed:

>identity
>identifier
>Identifying
>
>- Franc Zabkar

That said, your LPC47M102 chip is a "100 Pin Enhanced Super I/O
Controller with LPC Interface for Consumer Applications" made by
Standard Microsystems:

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Franc Zabkar · May 15, 2008

On Thu, 15 May 2008 18:02:59 +1000, Franc Zabkar
<fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> put finger to keyboard and composed:

>identity
>identifier
>Identifying
>
>- Franc Zabkar

You really should be posting this stuff to a hardware group, eg

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MEB · May 15, 2008

Remove the alternative [get it] homebuilt reference, just that reference. I
tried it, it won't go through.

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"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
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Franc Zabkar · May 15, 2008

On Thu, 15 May 2008 04:19:27 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
put finger to keyboard and composed:

>Remove the alternative [get it] homebuilt reference, just that reference. I
>tried it, it won't go through.
>
>--
>MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

Thanks, I get it now, although I think it's bizarre.

I wonder what other words or phrases are taboo.

BTW, I searched for "f l o o d" in the Google Groups archives for this
NG and found a post dated March 22, 2008. Therefore this block must be
relatively recent.

http://tinyurl.com/46o35u

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MEB · May 15, 2008

Well, it might be, but it could be that those style of addresses may have
been used for some form of attack. For many years, one couldn't post those
references in dozens of forums and groups.

As for the other, now that one doesn't make any sense. Perhaps its in
preparation for the coming hurricane season here, and other activities
related occurring around the world, and Spam/false activities related to
raising money for relief. Still would make no sense to block the word
though.

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Franc Zabkar · May 15, 2008

On Thu, 15 May 2008 13:49:35 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
put finger to keyboard and composed:

>Well, it might be, but it could be that those style of addresses may have
>been used for some form of attack. For many years, one couldn't post those
>references in dozens of forums and groups.
>
> As for the other, now that one doesn't make any sense. Perhaps its in
>preparation for the coming hurricane season here, and other activities
>related occurring around the world, and Spam/false activities related to
>raising money for relief. Still would make no sense to block the word
>though.
>
>--
>MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

If you've read Catch 22, then you'll understand me when I say that it
feels like Washington Irving aka Irving Washington aka Yossarian is
censoring my posts.

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MEB · May 15, 2008

Welcome to the Brave New World... or is it more like1984... [two more books
that seem to have predicted today's environment]

Yeah, read them.. and many more that could also apply.

Thought about some other potentials related to the WORD which could apply:
commands used in/on servers, in hacks, and other.... though without the
related coding, seems to be overkill and poorly setup monitoring...

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"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
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| On Thu, 15 May 2008 13:49:35 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
| put finger to keyboard and composed:
|
| >Well, it might be, but it could be that those style of addresses may have
| >been used for some form of attack. For many years, one couldn't post
those
| >references in dozens of forums and groups.
| >
| > As for the other, now that one doesn't make any sense. Perhaps its in
| >preparation for the coming hurricane season here, and other activities
| >related occurring around the world, and Spam/false activities related to
| >raising money for relief. Still would make no sense to block the word
| >though.
| >
| >--
| >MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|
| If you've read Catch 22, then you'll understand me when I say that it
| feels like Washington Irving aka Irving Washington aka Yossarian is
| censoring my posts.
|
| - Franc Zabkar
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| Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

Franc Zabkar · May 16, 2008

On Thu, 15 May 2008 18:31:29 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
put finger to keyboard and composed:

>Welcome to the Brave New World... or is it more like1984... [two more books
>that seem to have predicted today's environment]
>
>Yeah, read them.. and many more that could also apply.
>
> Thought about some other potentials related to the WORD which could apply:
>commands used in/on servers, in hacks, and other.... though without the
>related coding, seems to be overkill and poorly setup monitoring...
>
>--
>MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

I just revisited another posting failure back in March 2007. At that
time I was unable to post a message containing a URL which included
the reference to the same "alternative" hardware newsgroup.

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MEB · May 16, 2008

Well, then I guess that settles that part of it... that's a no-no... though
we could, at one time, do so in here...

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"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
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| On Thu, 15 May 2008 18:31:29 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
| put finger to keyboard and composed:
|
| >Welcome to the Brave New World... or is it more like1984... [two more
books
| >that seem to have predicted today's environment]
| >
| >Yeah, read them.. and many more that could also apply.
| >
| > Thought about some other potentials related to the WORD which could
apply:
| >commands used in/on servers, in hacks, and other.... though without the
| >related coding, seems to be overkill and poorly setup monitoring...
| >
| >--
| >MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|
| I just revisited another posting failure back in March 2007. At that
| time I was unable to post a message containing a URL which included
| the reference to the same "alternative" hardware newsgroup.
|
| - Franc Zabkar
| --
| Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

PCR · May 16, 2008

Franc Zabkar wrote:
| On Thu, 15 May 2008 04:19:27 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
| put finger to keyboard and composed:
|
|>Remove the alternative [get it] homebuilt reference, just that
|>reference. I tried it, it won't go through.
|>
|>--
|>MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|
| Thanks, I get it now, although I think it's bizarre.
|
| I wonder what other words or phrases are taboo.
|
| BTW, I searched for "f l o o d" in the Google Groups archives for this
| NG and found a post dated March 22, 2008. Therefore this block must be
| relatively recent.

I confirm the word "f l o o d" can no longer be posted to this NG
without the spaces. In my Sent Items, I have a Nov. '06 response to a
Terhune post that used that forbidden word! He praised me in that post &
wanted me to write a new master post about the time zone changes-- & now
it is gone forever!

| http://tinyurl.com/46o35u

That's at Google, BUT -- although 2 other Mike Y. posts show up for that
date at this NG -- that one no longer does. It isn't in my resently
reset .dbx, anyhow! Therefore, this thing is retroactive in scope! The
Bill in Co. post he responded to is here-- but not Mike Y.'s reply!

| - Franc Zabkar
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Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

Bill in Co. · May 16, 2008

PCR wrote:
> Franc Zabkar wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 May 2008 04:19:27 -0400, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com>
>> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>>
>>> Remove the alternative [get it] homebuilt reference, just that
>>> reference. I tried it, it won't go through.
>>>
>>> --
>>> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
>>
>> Thanks, I get it now, although I think it's bizarre.
>>
>> I wonder what other words or phrases are taboo.
>>
>> BTW, I searched for "f l o o d" in the Google Groups archives for this
>> NG and found a post dated March 22, 2008. Therefore this block must be
>> relatively recent.
>
> I confirm the word "f l o o d" can no longer be posted to this NG
> without the spaces. In my Sent Items, I have a Nov. '06 response to a
> Terhune post that used that forbidden word! He praised me in that post &
> wanted me to write a new master post about the time zone changes-- & now
> it is gone forever!
>
>> http://tinyurl.com/46o35u
>
> That's at Google, BUT -- although 2 other Mike Y. posts show up for that
> date at this NG -- that one no longer does. It isn't in my resently
> reset .dbx, anyhow! Therefore, this thing is retroactive in scope! The
> Bill in Co. post he responded to is here-- but not Mike Y.'s reply!

That's because I'm invincible. Ooops, I meant incorrigible...

Franc Zabkar · May 17, 2008

On 17 May 2008 07:07:12 GMT, thanatoid <waiting@the.exit.invalid> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

>f l o o d

(I had to space out your word because my reply wouldn't go through)

I see your reply but only if I retrieve it from Internode's news
server. It doesn't appear in Microsoft's news feed.

I suspect that your news server (usenetcompany.com ?) does not honour
Microsoft's request that this group be moderated.

See http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/moderated-ng-faq/

====================================================================
Subject: Q1.2 What happens to articles in a moderated newsgroup?

When someone tries to post a news article to a moderated group, the
local news server software automatically intercepts the post, and
e-mails it to a moderation address for processing by the moderator.

Once the message reaches the moderation address, it may be handled by
a human moderator, or forwarded to one of a panel of moderators, or
filtered by some form of moderation software.

If a message is approved and posted by a moderator, it appears on the
moderator's news server and then spreads to other news servers.
====================================================================

- Franc Zabkar
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Franc Zabkar · May 17, 2008

On Sat, 17 May 2008 18:27:32 +1000, Franc Zabkar
<fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> put finger to keyboard and composed:

>On 17 May 2008 07:07:12 GMT, thanatoid <waiting@the.exit.invalid> put
>finger to keyboard and composed:
>
>>f lood
>
>Let me try one more thing. I'm now using Internode's news server
>exclusively to send this reply. Previously I was using both Internode
>and MS in my access plan.
>
>f lood
>
>- Franc Zabkar

OK, so the message got through. It seems that MS groups are not
moderated as far as Usenet is concerned. The filtering must be local
to the MS news server. This means that only those using the MS server
will be affected.

- Franc Zabkar
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philo · May 17, 2008

"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
news:qu5t24d6iu6ttb67sol1e9aotara9687jr@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 17 May 2008 18:27:32 +1000, Franc Zabkar
> <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>
> >On 17 May 2008 07:07:12 GMT, thanatoid <waiting@the.exit.invalid> put
> >finger to keyboard and composed:
> >
> >>f lood
> >
> >Let me try one more thing. I'm now using Internode's news server
> >exclusively to send this reply. Previously I was using both Internode
> >and MS in my access plan.
> >
> >f lood
> >
> >- Franc Zabkar
>
> OK, so the message got through. It seems that MS groups are not
> moderated as far as Usenet is concerned. The filtering must be local
> to the MS news server. This means that only those using the MS server
> will be affected.
>
> - Franc Zabkar

That seems to be the case...
as my own news server usually displays more messages than the MS news server

MEB · May 17, 2008

So we have come full circle, back to my original posts concerning filtering
of MS [last year, disclaimed by several parties, MVPs included], and posts
which may appear out in USENET and not here [postings to Sunny and 98Guy,
several months ago]... which I previously demonstrated...

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"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
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|
| "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
| news:qu5t24d6iu6ttb67sol1e9aotara9687jr@4ax.com...
| > On Sat, 17 May 2008 18:27:32 +1000, Franc Zabkar
| > <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> put finger to keyboard and composed:
| >
| > >On 17 May 2008 07:07:12 GMT, thanatoid <waiting@the.exit.invalid> put
| > >finger to keyboard and composed:
| > >
| > >>f lood
| > >
| > >Let me try one more thing. I'm now using Internode's news server
| > >exclusively to send this reply. Previously I was using both Internode
| > >and MS in my access plan.
| > >
| > >f lood
| > >
| > >- Franc Zabkar
| >
| > OK, so the message got through. It seems that MS groups are not
| > moderated as far as Usenet is concerned. The filtering must be local
| > to the MS news server. This means that only those using the MS server
| > will be affected.
| >
| > - Franc Zabkar
|
|
|
| That seems to be the case...
| as my own news server usually displays more messages than the MS news
server
|
|

Gary S. Terhune · May 17, 2008

Good for you. But I'm surprised that any MVP would claim that there is NO
filtering of the MS server. I'm not sure for how long, but I've known for
years, at least. Every MVP that I know who regularly attends this group has
also known. Both for SPAM and for obscenities, and possibly, in a few cases,
for legal reasons. And, of course, whenever any bot filtering is involved,
all kinds of silly oddities are going to show up. Then you add the fact that
it's run by Microsoft, and they just aren't really good at making this kind
of stuff work (c.f . Hotmail, Live, the old Passport.)

No, I suspect a misunderstanding, probably derived from differing
definitions of terms.

--
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MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> So we have come full circle, back to my original posts concerning
> filtering
> of MS [last year, disclaimed by several parties, MVPs included], and posts
> which may appear out in USENET and not here [postings to Sunny and 98Guy,
> several months ago]... which I previously demonstrated...
>
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> --
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>
>
> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:KKGdnZm6fOcqNLPVnZ2dnUVZ_s7inZ2d@ntd.net...
> |
> | "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
> | news:qu5t24d6iu6ttb67sol1e9aotara9687jr@4ax.com...
> | > On Sat, 17 May 2008 18:27:32 +1000, Franc Zabkar
> | > <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> put finger to keyboard and composed:
> | >
> | > >On 17 May 2008 07:07:12 GMT, thanatoid <waiting@the.exit.invalid> put
> | > >finger to keyboard and composed:
> | > >
> | > >>f lood
> | > >
> | > >Let me try one more thing. I'm now using Internode's news server
> | > >exclusively to send this reply. Previously I was using both Internode
> | > >and MS in my access plan.
> | > >
> | > >f lood
> | > >
> | > >- Franc Zabkar
> | >
> | > OK, so the message got through. It seems that MS groups are not
> | > moderated as far as Usenet is concerned. The filtering must be local
> | > to the MS news server. This means that only those using the MS server
> | > will be affected.
> | >
> | > - Franc Zabkar
> |
> |
> |
> | That seems to be the case...
> | as my own news server usually displays more messages than the MS news
> server
> |
> |
>
>

thanatoid · May 17, 2008

Franc Zabkar <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in
news:qu5t24d6iu6ttb67sol1e9aotara9687jr@4ax.com:

> On Sat, 17 May 2008 18:27:32 +1000, Franc Zabkar
> <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> put finger to keyboard and
> composed:
>
>>On 17 May 2008 07:07:12 GMT, thanatoid
>><waiting@the.exit.invalid> put finger to keyboard and
>>composed:
>>
>>>f lood
>>
>>Let me try one more thing. I'm now using Internode's news
>>server exclusively to send this reply. Previously I was
>>using both Internode and MS in my access plan.
>>
>>f lood
>>
>>- Franc Zabkar
>
> OK, so the message got through. It seems that MS groups are
> not moderated as far as Usenet is concerned. The filtering
> must be local to the MS news server. This means that only
> those using the MS server will be affected.

NOW THAT'S A ***B I G*** SURPRISE !!!!

You just gotta LOVE those guys in Redmond.

BTW, I have filtered out discussions.microsoft.com (or
something) AS WELL as GG a month or so ago and I am very happy.

There is a difference between them, but NEITHER are Usenet,
AFAIAC.

P.S. Vague ideas of having some "fun" with those jerks spring to
mind... Anyone more motivated than I am, PLEASE go ahead! Of
course, whatever you do, it /probably/ won't show on MS servers,
so one could argue it's pointless.

Don't y'all just LOVE freedom of expression?

Oh, right, I forgot... It's 2008!

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There is no doubt that life is given us, not to be enjoyed, but
to be overcome--to be got over.

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