Spybot Crashes

J

Jim

The latter.

Typically I am green>40% here on msoe, but not as high as I would be if I
did get rid of the startup stuff. I checked every item and the arguments are
for increased performance early on hotfixes. No spyware, adware just patches
from Netropa and HP Backweb when I still ran it. One problem they had with
this hp system in universities was a constant ping to the Backweb/Infospace
server or even MS critical updates is another. Here is a list of these:
hpsysdrv HPScanPatch usbmmkbd.exe bpcpost.exe Hidserv.exe KeyBoard
Manager [Netropa]. The rest of the stuff is Avast or ZA or MS critical KB ~.
The classic minimum necessary startup stuff is: scanregw.exe systray.exe
LoadPowerProfile both run/service taskmon.exe mstask.exe. I also have
MSDTC and inetinfo.exe on.
"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:e2EGCYMzIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> All I can say is that if Resource Meter is constantly in the yellow, you
> have too much crap running in the background. For instance, I would ONLY
> have Spysweeper and your AV actually running in the background.
>
> Or were you remembering an on-demand scanning session when you said the RM
> dropped to yellow/red?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
> news:OQCcjFMzIHA.4168@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > It's been awhile I think I used the resource meter that gives:
> > System,User
> > and GDI all sucking bottom yellow-->red and System Properties

performance
> > tab. I was using SDhelper to silently block and Immunization features on
> > v.1.4 with no problems and probably extended this to v.1.5 ~. I think

the
> > program is a bit overweight for win95/98. I still have the restricted
> > zones
> > list active but now use also E.Howes ie-spyad. I run with U.S.CERT
> > "custom"
> > browser settings and have reviewed and used Mike Burgess security

settings
> > and Auhuma WSC and your website ideas at the Grystmill. I do have

certain
> > online services running in the background like Spysweeper and Avast and

ZA
> > FW. I also have some startup items that are enhancements to keyboard and
> > HP
> > systems running in the background. I have taken them down before but as

I
> > wrote above the program itself is overweight for this system and trying

to
> > be jack-of-all with win xp and vista.
> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> > news:usmShu2yIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> Please define "system resources" as used in your post. When I run tests
> >> (with NOTHING running in the background except basic Windows,) I get
> >> essentially the same numbers. User Resources drop from 99% to 90%. GDI

> > drops
> >> from 98% to 45%.
> >>
> >> Of course, as PCR says, I recommend against using Spybot for anything

but
> >> static scanning.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> http://grystmill.com
> >>
> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:ujPYL4pyIHA.5716@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> >I updated to that version 1.5 ~ when it was recommended and ran it

once
> > and
> >> > uninstalled it. If I use SpyBot again I will reinstall v.1.4 only.

The
> > new
> >> > v.1.5 requires way to much system resources for win98/95 even though

> > they
> >> > say it is ok... Is it really any better than the v.1.4 which worked
> >> > like

> > a
> >> > charm on win98?
> >> >
> >> > "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:OHcaA3YyIHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> >> Version 1.5.2.20
> >> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
> >> >> news:ejQ3N53xIHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> >> > Which version of SpyBot S&D?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:LIidnea1w7hX2KPVnZ2dnUVZ8sPinZ2d@posted.plusnet...
> >> >> > > S1L1Y1 wrote:
> >> >> > > > It Worked. Thank You. What was the problem?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I seem to recall that Spybot claim it's an issue with the way 98
> >> > handles
> >> >> > > memory. I'm not convinced.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Glad it worked.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > --
> >> >> > > Regards
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Nigel Stapley
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > www.thejudge.me.uk
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > <reply-to will bounce>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>

> >
> >

>
>
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

First thing I could suggest would be to get rid of that keyboard and all
it's supporting junk.

And about bpcpost.exe. Do you really use Microsoft Web TV?

And are you running PWS (inetinfo.exe)? If so, there's where I'd bet your
Resources went.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23H4zTnOzIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> The latter.
>
> Typically I am green>40% here on msoe, but not as high as I would be if I
> did get rid of the startup stuff. I checked every item and the arguments
> are
> for increased performance early on hotfixes. No spyware, adware just
> patches
> from Netropa and HP Backweb when I still ran it. One problem they had with
> this hp system in universities was a constant ping to the
> Backweb/Infospace
> server or even MS critical updates is another. Here is a list of these:
> hpsysdrv HPScanPatch usbmmkbd.exe bpcpost.exe Hidserv.exe KeyBoard
> Manager [Netropa]. The rest of the stuff is Avast or ZA or MS critical KB
> ~.
> The classic minimum necessary startup stuff is: scanregw.exe
> systray.exe
> LoadPowerProfile both run/service taskmon.exe mstask.exe. I also have
> MSDTC and inetinfo.exe on.
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:e2EGCYMzIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> All I can say is that if Resource Meter is constantly in the yellow, you
>> have too much crap running in the background. For instance, I would ONLY
>> have Spysweeper and your AV actually running in the background.
>>
>> Or were you remembering an on-demand scanning session when you said the
>> RM
>> dropped to yellow/red?
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://grystmill.com
>>
>> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:OQCcjFMzIHA.4168@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> > It's been awhile I think I used the resource meter that gives:
>> > System,User
>> > and GDI all sucking bottom yellow-->red and System Properties

> performance
>> > tab. I was using SDhelper to silently block and Immunization features
>> > on
>> > v.1.4 with no problems and probably extended this to v.1.5 ~. I think

> the
>> > program is a bit overweight for win95/98. I still have the restricted
>> > zones
>> > list active but now use also E.Howes ie-spyad. I run with U.S.CERT
>> > "custom"
>> > browser settings and have reviewed and used Mike Burgess security

> settings
>> > and Auhuma WSC and your website ideas at the Grystmill. I do have

> certain
>> > online services running in the background like Spysweeper and Avast and

> ZA
>> > FW. I also have some startup items that are enhancements to keyboard
>> > and
>> > HP
>> > systems running in the background. I have taken them down before but as

> I
>> > wrote above the program itself is overweight for this system and trying

> to
>> > be jack-of-all with win xp and vista.
>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> > news:usmShu2yIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> Please define "system resources" as used in your post. When I run
>> >> tests
>> >> (with NOTHING running in the background except basic Windows,) I get
>> >> essentially the same numbers. User Resources drop from 99% to 90%. GDI
>> > drops
>> >> from 98% to 45%.
>> >>
>> >> Of course, as PCR says, I recommend against using Spybot for anything

> but
>> >> static scanning.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> http://grystmill.com
>> >>
>> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
>> >> news:ujPYL4pyIHA.5716@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >> >I updated to that version 1.5 ~ when it was recommended and ran it

> once
>> > and
>> >> > uninstalled it. If I use SpyBot again I will reinstall v.1.4 only.

> The
>> > new
>> >> > v.1.5 requires way to much system resources for win98/95 even though
>> > they
>> >> > say it is ok... Is it really any better than the v.1.4 which worked
>> >> > like
>> > a
>> >> > charm on win98?
>> >> >
>> >> > "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:OHcaA3YyIHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> Version 1.5.2.20
>> >> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:ejQ3N53xIHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> > Which version of SpyBot S&D?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:LIidnea1w7hX2KPVnZ2dnUVZ8sPinZ2d@posted.plusnet...
>> >> >> > > S1L1Y1 wrote:
>> >> >> > > > It Worked. Thank You. What was the problem?
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > I seem to recall that Spybot claim it's an issue with the way
>> >> >> > > 98
>> >> > handles
>> >> >> > > memory. I'm not convinced.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Glad it worked.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > --
>> >> >> > > Regards
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Nigel Stapley
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > www.thejudge.me.uk
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > <reply-to will bounce>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >

>>
>>

>
>
 
J

Jim

Good points.
I have fiddled with them in the past, and may in the future. So I just left
them on. I should have written, with nothing on but windows and these
startup I am >58%. With just explorer on it is a wow >90%. How great win98
would have been without all the junk!

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:ek5k4CPzIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> First thing I could suggest would be to get rid of that keyboard and all
> it's supporting junk.
>
> And about bpcpost.exe. Do you really use Microsoft Web TV?
>
> And are you running PWS (inetinfo.exe)? If so, there's where I'd bet your
> Resources went.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
> news:%23H4zTnOzIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > The latter.
> >
> > Typically I am green>40% here on msoe, but not as high as I would be if

I
> > did get rid of the startup stuff. I checked every item and the arguments
> > are
> > for increased performance early on hotfixes. No spyware, adware just
> > patches
> > from Netropa and HP Backweb when I still ran it. One problem they had

with
> > this hp system in universities was a constant ping to the
> > Backweb/Infospace
> > server or even MS critical updates is another. Here is a list of these:
> > hpsysdrv HPScanPatch usbmmkbd.exe bpcpost.exe Hidserv.exe KeyBoard
> > Manager [Netropa]. The rest of the stuff is Avast or ZA or MS critical

KB
> > ~.
> > The classic minimum necessary startup stuff is: scanregw.exe
> > systray.exe
> > LoadPowerProfile both run/service taskmon.exe mstask.exe. I also have
> > MSDTC and inetinfo.exe on.
> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> > news:e2EGCYMzIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> All I can say is that if Resource Meter is constantly in the yellow,

you
> >> have too much crap running in the background. For instance, I would

ONLY
> >> have Spysweeper and your AV actually running in the background.
> >>
> >> Or were you remembering an on-demand scanning session when you said the
> >> RM
> >> dropped to yellow/red?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> http://grystmill.com
> >>
> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:OQCcjFMzIHA.4168@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> > It's been awhile I think I used the resource meter that gives:
> >> > System,User
> >> > and GDI all sucking bottom yellow-->red and System Properties

> > performance
> >> > tab. I was using SDhelper to silently block and Immunization features
> >> > on
> >> > v.1.4 with no problems and probably extended this to v.1.5 ~. I

think
> > the
> >> > program is a bit overweight for win95/98. I still have the restricted
> >> > zones
> >> > list active but now use also E.Howes ie-spyad. I run with U.S.CERT
> >> > "custom"
> >> > browser settings and have reviewed and used Mike Burgess security

> > settings
> >> > and Auhuma WSC and your website ideas at the Grystmill. I do have

> > certain
> >> > online services running in the background like Spysweeper and Avast

and
> > ZA
> >> > FW. I also have some startup items that are enhancements to keyboard
> >> > and
> >> > HP
> >> > systems running in the background. I have taken them down before but

as
> > I
> >> > wrote above the program itself is overweight for this system and

trying
> > to
> >> > be jack-of-all with win xp and vista.
> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> >> > news:usmShu2yIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> >> Please define "system resources" as used in your post. When I run
> >> >> tests
> >> >> (with NOTHING running in the background except basic Windows,) I get
> >> >> essentially the same numbers. User Resources drop from 99% to 90%.

GDI
> >> > drops
> >> >> from 98% to 45%.
> >> >>
> >> >> Of course, as PCR says, I recommend against using Spybot for

anything
> > but
> >> >> static scanning.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> >> http://grystmill.com
> >> >>
> >> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
> >> >> news:ujPYL4pyIHA.5716@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >I updated to that version 1.5 ~ when it was recommended and ran it

> > once
> >> > and
> >> >> > uninstalled it. If I use SpyBot again I will reinstall v.1.4 only.

> > The
> >> > new
> >> >> > v.1.5 requires way to much system resources for win98/95 even

though
> >> > they
> >> >> > say it is ok... Is it really any better than the v.1.4 which

worked
> >> >> > like
> >> > a
> >> >> > charm on win98?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:OHcaA3YyIHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> Version 1.5.2.20
> >> >> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:ejQ3N53xIHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> > Which version of SpyBot S&D?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> > news:LIidnea1w7hX2KPVnZ2dnUVZ8sPinZ2d@posted.plusnet...
> >> >> >> > > S1L1Y1 wrote:
> >> >> >> > > > It Worked. Thank You. What was the problem?
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > I seem to recall that Spybot claim it's an issue with the way
> >> >> >> > > 98
> >> >> > handles
> >> >> >> > > memory. I'm not convinced.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > Glad it worked.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > --
> >> >> >> > > Regards
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > Nigel Stapley
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > www.thejudge.me.uk
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > <reply-to will bounce>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>

> >
> >

>
>
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

The "great" that could have been was if Bill (or whomever) hadn't limited
User and GDI Resources to such pitifully small amounts. That is THE fatal
flaw that killed Windows 9x.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:O1gZR0pzIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Good points.
> I have fiddled with them in the past, and may in the future. So I just
> left
> them on. I should have written, with nothing on but windows and these
> startup I am >58%. With just explorer on it is a wow >90%. How great win98
> would have been without all the junk!
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:ek5k4CPzIHA.5892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> First thing I could suggest would be to get rid of that keyboard and all
>> it's supporting junk.
>>
>> And about bpcpost.exe. Do you really use Microsoft Web TV?
>>
>> And are you running PWS (inetinfo.exe)? If so, there's where I'd bet your
>> Resources went.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://grystmill.com
>>
>> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:%23H4zTnOzIHA.2360@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> > The latter.
>> >
>> > Typically I am green>40% here on msoe, but not as high as I would be if

> I
>> > did get rid of the startup stuff. I checked every item and the
>> > arguments
>> > are
>> > for increased performance early on hotfixes. No spyware, adware just
>> > patches
>> > from Netropa and HP Backweb when I still ran it. One problem they had

> with
>> > this hp system in universities was a constant ping to the
>> > Backweb/Infospace
>> > server or even MS critical updates is another. Here is a list of these:
>> > hpsysdrv HPScanPatch usbmmkbd.exe bpcpost.exe Hidserv.exe KeyBoard
>> > Manager [Netropa]. The rest of the stuff is Avast or ZA or MS critical

> KB
>> > ~.
>> > The classic minimum necessary startup stuff is: scanregw.exe
>> > systray.exe
>> > LoadPowerProfile both run/service taskmon.exe mstask.exe. I also have
>> > MSDTC and inetinfo.exe on.
>> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> > news:e2EGCYMzIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >> All I can say is that if Resource Meter is constantly in the yellow,

> you
>> >> have too much crap running in the background. For instance, I would

> ONLY
>> >> have Spysweeper and your AV actually running in the background.
>> >>
>> >> Or were you remembering an on-demand scanning session when you said
>> >> the
>> >> RM
>> >> dropped to yellow/red?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> http://grystmill.com
>> >>
>> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
>> >> news:OQCcjFMzIHA.4168@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> >> > It's been awhile I think I used the resource meter that gives:
>> >> > System,User
>> >> > and GDI all sucking bottom yellow-->red and System Properties
>> > performance
>> >> > tab. I was using SDhelper to silently block and Immunization
>> >> > features
>> >> > on
>> >> > v.1.4 with no problems and probably extended this to v.1.5 ~. I

> think
>> > the
>> >> > program is a bit overweight for win95/98. I still have the
>> >> > restricted
>> >> > zones
>> >> > list active but now use also E.Howes ie-spyad. I run with U.S.CERT
>> >> > "custom"
>> >> > browser settings and have reviewed and used Mike Burgess security
>> > settings
>> >> > and Auhuma WSC and your website ideas at the Grystmill. I do have
>> > certain
>> >> > online services running in the background like Spysweeper and Avast

> and
>> > ZA
>> >> > FW. I also have some startup items that are enhancements to keyboard
>> >> > and
>> >> > HP
>> >> > systems running in the background. I have taken them down before but

> as
>> > I
>> >> > wrote above the program itself is overweight for this system and

> trying
>> > to
>> >> > be jack-of-all with win xp and vista.
>> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> >> > news:usmShu2yIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> Please define "system resources" as used in your post. When I run
>> >> >> tests
>> >> >> (with NOTHING running in the background except basic Windows,) I
>> >> >> get
>> >> >> essentially the same numbers. User Resources drop from 99% to 90%.

> GDI
>> >> > drops
>> >> >> from 98% to 45%.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Of course, as PCR says, I recommend against using Spybot for

> anything
>> > but
>> >> >> static scanning.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> >> http://grystmill.com
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:ujPYL4pyIHA.5716@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> >I updated to that version 1.5 ~ when it was recommended and ran it
>> > once
>> >> > and
>> >> >> > uninstalled it. If I use SpyBot again I will reinstall v.1.4
>> >> >> > only.
>> > The
>> >> > new
>> >> >> > v.1.5 requires way to much system resources for win98/95 even

> though
>> >> > they
>> >> >> > say it is ok... Is it really any better than the v.1.4 which

> worked
>> >> >> > like
>> >> > a
>> >> >> > charm on win98?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "S1L1Y1" <s1l1y1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:OHcaA3YyIHA.5620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> >> Version 1.5.2.20
>> >> >> >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:ejQ3N53xIHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> >> > Which version of SpyBot S&D?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > "Nigel Stapley" <unet@judgemental.plus.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> > news:LIidnea1w7hX2KPVnZ2dnUVZ8sPinZ2d@posted.plusnet...
>> >> >> >> > > S1L1Y1 wrote:
>> >> >> >> > > > It Worked. Thank You. What was the problem?
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > I seem to recall that Spybot claim it's an issue with the
>> >> >> >> > > way
>> >> >> >> > > 98
>> >> >> > handles
>> >> >> >> > > memory. I'm not convinced.
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > Glad it worked.
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > --
>> >> >> >> > > Regards
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > Nigel Stapley
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > www.thejudge.me.uk
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > <reply-to will bounce>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >

>>
>>

>
>
 

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