Problems activating monitor

[Jeff Richards]

Are you quite sure you have it plugged into the correct connector? It's
easy to overlook the connector on the plug-in video card and connect it
instead to the disabled video port on the motherboard.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Alan" <jalanthomas@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> I have a monitor that used to be connected to a Windows 98
> computer but recently has been used with a Windows Vista PC. I wanted
> to use it on the Win98 computer. However, everytime I boot, the
> monitor (an old Dell model m780) just sits there. The light beside
> its power button just slowly blinks, and the monitor never displays
> anything. When I switch it back to the Vista machine, it works fine.
>
> I tried powering everything down completely and removing power
> from everything for a few minutes, the reconnecting and booting. No
> change. Same results when I power up the monitor and computer in
> different sequences.
>
> Any ideas? Thanks, Alan
>
>

 

[MEB]

Good point, it could also be the wrong video connector if there are two
available on the adapter...

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message
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| Are you quite sure you have it plugged into the correct connector? It's
| easy to overlook the connector on the plug-in video card and connect it
| instead to the disabled video port on the motherboard.
| --
| Jeff Richards
| MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
| "Alan" <jalanthomas@verizon.net> wrote in message
| news:c8868f1d-88ce-43d8-b172-ccfddf3064cc@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
| > I have a monitor that used to be connected to a Windows 98
| > computer but recently has been used with a Windows Vista PC. I wanted
| > to use it on the Win98 computer. However, everytime I boot, the
| > monitor (an old Dell model m780) just sits there. The light beside
| > its power button just slowly blinks, and the monitor never displays
| > anything. When I switch it back to the Vista machine, it works fine.
| >
| > I tried powering everything down completely and removing power
| > from everything for a few minutes, the reconnecting and booting. No
| > change. Same results when I power up the monitor and computer in
| > different sequences.
| >
| > Any ideas? Thanks, Alan
| >
| >
|
|

 

[Tim Slattery]

"Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote:

>Are you quite sure you have it plugged into the correct connector? It's
>easy to overlook the connector on the plug-in video card and connect it
>instead to the disabled video port on the motherboard.

Yeah, that's what I wondered about. Isn't the "slowly blinking" LED
beside the power button that OP described a "no signal" indication?

--
Tim Slattery
MS MVP(Shell/User)
Slattery_T@bls.gov
http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

 

[philo]

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:rpudnXPrp93vBqLVnZ2dnUVZ_obinZ2d@ntd.net...
> |
> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | news:eaXriSfwIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | > This monitor is EPA ENERGY STAR®-compliant and NUTEK-compliant when
used
> | > with a computer equipped with VESA DPMS functionality. This system
> | operates
> | > with a VESA DPMS-compliant video card installed in your computer. You
> use
> | a
> | > software utility installed on your computer to set up this feature.
> | >
> | > NUTEK
> | > http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5821924.html
> | > http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5335168.html - read lower
> | >
> | > EnergyStar
> | > http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=revisions.computer_spec
> | >
> |
>
http://www.energystar.gov/ia/partners/product_specs/program_reqs/Computer_Spec_Final.pdf
> | >
> | > VISTA [in particular] and sometimes XP are directly controlling
through
> | DDC
> | > [monitors -display data channel] or other [including DRM aspects] the
> | > devices.
> | > VISTA appears to do much more of this on its own without requiring the
> | > additional software as suggested above.
> | >
> | > DDC
> | > VESA DPMS
> | >
> |
>
http://www.answers.com/topic/vesa-display-power-management-signaling?cat=technology
> | >
> | > Franc, myself, and others discussed DDC a few weeks ago. As the
> standards
> | > are constantly being revised, it would be best to review the standards
> | from
> | > both the time period for the VISTA computer and the monitor if a
> technical
> | > review is what is desired. also, the monitors actual electrical
> schematic
> | >
> | > I would check the pins and connectors on the 98 box to ensure full
> | contact.
> | > One might try disabling VESA-DPMS on the VISTA machine [if possible]
or
> | > Power States. OR waiting several hours without power [electrical and
> via
> | > connections] to the monitor to see if the monitor clears. My Epson
> clears
> | > after about 4 or 5 hours YMMV.
> | > As a *never recommended* option, pull the monitor connection from the
> | VISTA
> | > box while running and see if it leaves it in the proper state for 98
> use,
> | > OR.disconnecting just before the final shut off of VISTA.
> | >
> | > Best option, buy another monitor and stop changing them around.
> | >
> |
> |
> | Well that was a good observation!
> |
> | But still, even if Vista had set the monitor to the sleep state...
> | the re-introduction of the H-sync and V-sync signal should have reset
the
> | monitor...
> |
> |
> | If not, the monitor may have a re-set button
> | or option
> |
>
> Reset button? Where the heck and on what CRT monitor do you find a reset
> button? Degauz maybe... if it has one it couldn't hurt to press it.
>
> Ah no, not necessarily, part of the various specification compliances is
> retained state [or at least it was when I read some information, of course
> that may have just been proposed]..... any OPTION would be via software
with
> the monitor running VISUALLY {unless one has video reset software}, and
> H-sync and V-sync WOULD likely work, but perhaps only FROM a fully
> compatible VESA DPMS compliant computer or video card as its apparently
> stuck in that mode [leaving VISTA activities out of the picture for this
> portion of the discussion] OR it has issues with some internal part/chip
OR
> .... well there's a lot of ORs and a few ANDs.... and a couple wild
guesses
>
> If the poster is still around, we COULD find out if the compliance on the
> 98 box is compatible [video manufacturer/model/chipset], and several other
> issues, like motherboard, BIOS support [and settings if remembered], last
> time used, and other...
>


All the monitors I've ever worked on has an on-screen menu...
of course since the OP seems to be gone now...who knows for sure what the
situation was.


> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> --
> _________
>
> | > --
> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | > --
> | > _________
> | >
> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | > news:eENcteewIHA.4876@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | > | How is it affected by the OS? Through what means of communication?
> Which
> | > | cable? Would this not just be a way to "remotely" set things on the
> | > monitor
> | > | that you would otherwise set by hand using dials and buttons on the
> | > monitor?
> | > | On such a monitor, wouldn't there have to be a manual reset button?
> | > |
> | > | Just questions that come to mind, if you have the time.
> | > |
> | > | --
> | > | Gary S. Terhune
> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > | www.grystmill.com
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | > | news:e7WCzscwIHA.5288@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> | > | > That isn't necessarily true... many newer devices have *in device*
> | prom,
> | > | > eeprom, fprom or other which can be affected by the OS to which it
> is
> | > | > connected
> | > | >
> | > | > --
> | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | > | > --
> | > | > _________
> | > | >
> | > | > "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
> | > | > news:zqqdnRDr4NBjb6PVnZ2dnUVZ_qHinZ2d@ntd.net...
> | > | > |
> | > | > | "Alan" <jalanthomas@verizon.net> wrote in message
> | > | > |
> | > | >
> | >
> news:b421fc05-4476-418f-903d-135d6166ee3e@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> | > | > | > I`ll try that.
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > I did try lowering the Refresh Rate (to 60Hz), the
resolution
> | (to
> | > | > | > 800x600) and the colors (to 16 bits) on the Vista machine,
then
> | > | > | > shutting down. No change.
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > Thanks, Alan
> | > | > |
> | > | > |
> | > | > | What were you expecting to happen?
> | > | > | Setting your video resolution on one machine could not have any
> | effect
> | > | > on
> | > | > an
> | > | > | other machine.
> | > | > | Since you know the monitor is working...(it works on the Vista
> | > machine)
> | > | > | the problem is not with the monitor...the problem is with the
> Win98
> | > | > machine
> | > | > | itself.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | Maybe just a bad connection???
> | > | > |
> | > | > |
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>

 

[MEB]

Agreed, another missed opportunity...

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
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|
| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:OT4$aHiwIHA.4564@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| >
| > "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
| > news:rpudnXPrp93vBqLVnZ2dnUVZ_obinZ2d@ntd.net...
| > |
| > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | news:eaXriSfwIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > | > This monitor is EPA ENERGY STAR®-compliant and NUTEK-compliant when
| used
| > | > with a computer equipped with VESA DPMS functionality. This system
| > | operates
| > | > with a VESA DPMS-compliant video card installed in your computer.
You
| > use
| > | a
| > | > software utility installed on your computer to set up this feature.
| > | >
| > | > NUTEK
| > | > http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5821924.html
| > | > http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5335168.html - read lower
| > | >
| > | > EnergyStar
| > | > http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=revisions.computer_spec
| > | >
| > |
| >
|
http://www.energystar.gov/ia/partners/product_specs/program_reqs/Computer_Spec_Final.pdf
| > | >
| > | > VISTA [in particular] and sometimes XP are directly controlling
| through
| > | DDC
| > | > [monitors -display data channel] or other [including DRM aspects]
the
| > | > devices.
| > | > VISTA appears to do much more of this on its own without requiring
the
| > | > additional software as suggested above.
| > | >
| > | > DDC
| > | > VESA DPMS
| > | >
| > |
| >
|
http://www.answers.com/topic/vesa-display-power-management-signaling?cat=technology
| > | >
| > | > Franc, myself, and others discussed DDC a few weeks ago. As the
| > standards
| > | > are constantly being revised, it would be best to review the
standards
| > | from
| > | > both the time period for the VISTA computer and the monitor if a
| > technical
| > | > review is what is desired. also, the monitors actual electrical
| > schematic
| > | >
| > | > I would check the pins and connectors on the 98 box to ensure full
| > | contact.
| > | > One might try disabling VESA-DPMS on the VISTA machine [if
possible]
| or
| > | > Power States. OR waiting several hours without power [electrical
and
| > via
| > | > connections] to the monitor to see if the monitor clears. My Epson
| > clears
| > | > after about 4 or 5 hours YMMV.
| > | > As a *never recommended* option, pull the monitor connection from
the
| > | VISTA
| > | > box while running and see if it leaves it in the proper state for 98
| > use,
| > | > OR.disconnecting just before the final shut off of VISTA.
| > | >
| > | > Best option, buy another monitor and stop changing them around.
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| > | Well that was a good observation!
| > |
| > | But still, even if Vista had set the monitor to the sleep state...
| > | the re-introduction of the H-sync and V-sync signal should have reset
| the
| > | monitor...
| > |
| > |
| > | If not, the monitor may have a re-set button
| > | or option
| > |
| >
| > Reset button? Where the heck and on what CRT monitor do you find a reset
| > button? Degauz maybe... if it has one it couldn't hurt to press it.
| >
| > Ah no, not necessarily, part of the various specification compliances is
| > retained state [or at least it was when I read some information, of
course
| > that may have just been proposed]..... any OPTION would be via software
| with
| > the monitor running VISUALLY {unless one has video reset software}, and
| > H-sync and V-sync WOULD likely work, but perhaps only FROM a fully
| > compatible VESA DPMS compliant computer or video card as its apparently
| > stuck in that mode [leaving VISTA activities out of the picture for this
| > portion of the discussion] OR it has issues with some internal part/chip
| OR
| > .... well there's a lot of ORs and a few ANDs.... and a couple wild
| guesses
| >
| > If the poster is still around, we COULD find out if the compliance on
the
| > 98 box is compatible [video manufacturer/model/chipset], and several
other
| > issues, like motherboard, BIOS support [and settings if remembered],
last
| > time used, and other...
| >
|
|
| All the monitors I've ever worked on has an on-screen menu...
| of course since the OP seems to be gone now...who knows for sure what the
| situation was.
|
|
| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > --
| > _________
| >
| > | > --
| > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | > --
| > | > _________
| > | >
| > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > | > news:eENcteewIHA.4876@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > | > | How is it affected by the OS? Through what means of communication?
| > Which
| > | > | cable? Would this not just be a way to "remotely" set things on
the
| > | > monitor
| > | > | that you would otherwise set by hand using dials and buttons on
the
| > | > monitor?
| > | > | On such a monitor, wouldn't there have to be a manual reset
button?
| > | > |
| > | > | Just questions that come to mind, if you have the time.
| > | > |
| > | > | --
| > | > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | > | www.grystmill.com
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > | news:e7WCzscwIHA.5288@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| > | > | > That isn't necessarily true... many newer devices have *in
device*
| > | prom,
| > | > | > eeprom, fprom or other which can be affected by the OS to which
it
| > is
| > | > | > connected
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > _________
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
| > | > | > news:zqqdnRDr4NBjb6PVnZ2dnUVZ_qHinZ2d@ntd.net...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | "Alan" <jalanthomas@verizon.net> wrote in message
| > | > | > |
| > | > | >
| > | >
| >
news:b421fc05-4476-418f-903d-135d6166ee3e@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
| > | > | > | > I`ll try that.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > I did try lowering the Refresh Rate (to 60Hz), the
| resolution
| > | (to
| > | > | > | > 800x600) and the colors (to 16 bits) on the Vista machine,
| then
| > | > | > | > shutting down. No change.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Thanks, Alan
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | What were you expecting to happen?
| > | > | > | Setting your video resolution on one machine could not have
any
| > | effect
| > | > | > on
| > | > | > an
| > | > | > | other machine.
| > | > | > | Since you know the monitor is working...(it works on the Vista
| > | > machine)
| > | > | > | the problem is not with the monitor...the problem is with the
| > Win98
| > | > | > machine
| > | > | > | itself.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Maybe just a bad connection???
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|