New k/board has an USB plug

[Jason James]

I've had my win98se PC since 1999. Its running 85% free resources atm. I've
finally had to buy another k/board which has a USB plug only.
There is a USB port on the rear of the PC and mention of a heap of USB files
after doing a "search for files".

My question is: can I simply remove the existing KB from it's circular
socket and plug in the new KB to the single USB?

I did plug in a coffee-cup warmer to the USB once, but removed it when I
found it could only supply 500ma (found this info in one of the port specs
list) the CCup was 800ma.
Thanx for any clues,....Jason

 

[philo]

"Jason James" <at@peace.com> wrote in message
news:484c680f$0$90788$c30e37c6@pit-reader.telstra.net...
> I've had my win98se PC since 1999. Its running 85% free resources atm.
I've
> finally had to buy another k/board which has a USB plug only.
> There is a USB port on the rear of the PC and mention of a heap of USB
files
> after doing a "search for files".
>
> My question is: can I simply remove the existing KB from it's circular
> socket and plug in the new KB to the single USB?
>
> I did plug in a coffee-cup warmer to the USB once, but removed it when I
> found it could only supply 500ma (found this info in one of the port specs
> list) the CCup was 800ma.
> Thanx for any clues,....Jason
>
>


Win98 should be able to detect and install your USB keyboard.
It will not draw too much current, so you should be OK...
However I'd advise you to use a PS/2 keyboard as you *might* not have USB
keyboard support in the bios

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

"Jason James" <at@peace.com> wrote in message
news:484c680f$0$90788$c30e37c6@pit-reader.telstra.net...
> I've had my win98se PC since 1999. Its running 85% free resources atm.
> I've
> finally had to buy another k/board which has a USB plug only.
> There is a USB port on the rear of the PC and mention of a heap of USB
> files
> after doing a "search for files".

"Search for files"? You mean like using Find>Files & Folders, or is this
something that happens when you plug in the USB device?

Referring to the below, what size is the "circular" connector on the old
board? If it's ~1/4 inch in diameter, it's a PS/2. If it's more like 3/4
inch in diameter, at's a AT port. Either way, you can get an adapter at your
local computer store that lets you plug the USB keyboard into the same port
you're using now. That would avoid the question altogether. (In the case of
an AT connector, you might have to go online to find one. Reminds me that I
only have one. Better find another, just in case.)

> My question is: can I simply remove the existing KB from it's circular
> socket and plug in the new KB to the single USB?

You mean you haven't tried it yet? Go ahead, try it.

> I did plug in a coffee-cup warmer to the USB once, but removed it when I
> found it could only supply 500ma (found this info in one of the port specs
> list) the CCup was 800ma.

A coffee cup warmer is a stupid use for a USB jack, but I guess you already
learned about that one. Anything that is *powered* by the USB port and
requires more than a modicum of juice puts a fair amount of stress on the
internal circuitry. Unless you're using a laptop that's running on
batteries, you are already right next to some source of standard power (110
in the US, 220 in Europe.) Said sources of power are what you use for things
like coffee cup warmers, battery chargers, etc.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

 

[Jason James]

"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:CoadnbgyI56j7dHVnZ2dnUVZ_sninZ2d@ntd.net...
>
> "Jason James" <at@peace.com> wrote in message
> news:484c680f$0$90788$c30e37c6@pit-reader.telstra.net...
> > I've had my win98se PC since 1999. Its running 85% free resources atm.
> I've
> > finally had to buy another k/board which has a USB plug only.
> > There is a USB port on the rear of the PC and mention of a heap of USB
> files
> > after doing a "search for files".
> >
> > My question is: can I simply remove the existing KB from it's circular
> > socket and plug in the new KB to the single USB?
> >
> > I did plug in a coffee-cup warmer to the USB once, but removed it when I
> > found it could only supply 500ma (found this info in one of the port
specs
> > list) the CCup was 800ma.
> > Thanx for any clues,....Jason
> >
> >
>
>
> Win98 should be able to detect and install your USB keyboard.
> It will not draw too much current, so you should be OK...
> However I'd advise you to use a PS/2 keyboard as you *might* not have USB
> keyboard support in the bios

Yes, I switched off the PC, unplugged the old KB, and selected the LHS USB
port to plug in the new KB. Windows then prompted me 3 times to select
various files, then it was all systems go.
Thanx for your assistance. I'm not very good at PCs, and I was worried I
would blow something up
Jason

 

[Ron Badour]

Yes. If desired, you can also get a USB to ps/2 adapter and use the
circular socket.

--
Regards

Ron Badour
MS MVP 1997 - 2008


"Jason James" <at@peace.com> wrote in message
news:484c680f$0$90788$c30e37c6@pit-reader.telstra.net...
> I've had my win98se PC since 1999. Its running 85% free resources atm.
> I've
> finally had to buy another k/board which has a USB plug only.
> There is a USB port on the rear of the PC and mention of a heap of USB
> files
> after doing a "search for files".
>
> My question is: can I simply remove the existing KB from it's circular
> socket and plug in the new KB to the single USB?
>
> I did plug in a coffee-cup warmer to the USB once, but removed it when I
> found it could only supply 500ma (found this info in one of the port specs
> list) the CCup was 800ma.
> Thanx for any clues,....Jason
>
>

 

[Jason James]

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:eBA4ZNcyIHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> "Jason James" <at@peace.com> wrote in message
> news:484c680f$0$90788$c30e37c6@pit-reader.telstra.net...
> > I've had my win98se PC since 1999. Its running 85% free resources atm.
> > I've
> > finally had to buy another k/board which has a USB plug only.
> > There is a USB port on the rear of the PC and mention of a heap of USB
> > files
> > after doing a "search for files".
>
> "Search for files"? You mean like using Find>Files & Folders, or is this
> something that happens when you plug in the USB device?

Apart from the stupid coffee cup, had no other exp with USBs Before doing
anything I did a search using "USB" This gave me an indication the PC did
have some circuitry devoted to USB.


> Referring to the below, what size is the "circular" connector on the old
> board? If it's ~1/4 inch in diameter, it's a PS/2. If it's more like 3/4
> inch in diameter, at's a AT port. Either way, you can get an adapter at
your
> local computer store that lets you plug the USB keyboard into the same
port
> you're using now. That would avoid the question altogether. (In the case
of
> an AT connector, you might have to go online to find one. Reminds me that
I
> only have one. Better find another, just in case.)

Yeah, the old KB had the 1/4" plug.

> > My question is: can I simply remove the existing KB from it's circular
> > socket and plug in the new KB to the single USB?
>
> You mean you haven't tried it yet? Go ahead, try it.

I did as you directed, and after 3 different screens while it found some
files to use, it finally said "finished" and all is hunky dory!

> > I did plug in a coffee-cup warmer to the USB once, but removed it when I
> > found it could only supply 500ma (found this info in one of the port
specs
> > list) the CCup was 800ma.
>
> A coffee cup warmer is a stupid use for a USB jack, but I guess you
already
> learned about that one. Anything that is *powered* by the USB port and
> requires more than a modicum of juice puts a fair amount of stress on the
> internal circuitry. Unless you're using a laptop that's running on
> batteries, you are already right next to some source of standard power
(110
> in the US, 220 in Europe.) Said sources of power are what you use for
things
> like coffee cup warmers, battery chargers, etc.

Yep I understand. Thank you for your assistance,....Jason

 

[philo]

"Jason James" <at@peace.com> wrote in message
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>
> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:CoadnbgyI56j7dHVnZ2dnUVZ_sninZ2d@ntd.net...
> >
> > "Jason James" <at@peace.com> wrote in message
> > news:484c680f$0$90788$c30e37c6@pit-reader.telstra.net...
> > > I've had my win98se PC since 1999. Its running 85% free resources atm.
> > I've
> > > finally had to buy another k/board which has a USB plug only.
> > > There is a USB port on the rear of the PC and mention of a heap of USB
> > files
> > > after doing a "search for files".
> > >
> > > My question is: can I simply remove the existing KB from it's circular
> > > socket and plug in the new KB to the single USB?
> > >
> > > I did plug in a coffee-cup warmer to the USB once, but removed it when
I
> > > found it could only supply 500ma (found this info in one of the port
> specs
> > > list) the CCup was 800ma.
> > > Thanx for any clues,....Jason
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > Win98 should be able to detect and install your USB keyboard.
> > It will not draw too much current, so you should be OK...
> > However I'd advise you to use a PS/2 keyboard as you *might* not have
USB
> > keyboard support in the bios
>
> Yes, I switched off the PC, unplugged the old KB, and selected the LHS USB
> port to plug in the new KB. Windows then prompted me 3 times to select
> various files, then it was all systems go.
> Thanx for your assistance. I'm not very good at PCs, and I was worried I
> would blow something up
> Jason
>
>


Glad it worked for you!

 

[letterman@invalid.com]

On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:47:25 +1000, "Jason James" <at@peace.com> wrote:

>
>"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
>news:CoadnbgyI56j7dHVnZ2dnUVZ_sninZ2d@ntd.net...
>>
>> "Jason James" <at@peace.com> wrote in message
>> news:484c680f$0$90788$c30e37c6@pit-reader.telstra.net...
>> > I've had my win98se PC since 1999. Its running 85% free resources atm.
>> I've
>> > finally had to buy another k/board which has a USB plug only.
>> > There is a USB port on the rear of the PC and mention of a heap of USB
>> files
>> > after doing a "search for files".
>> >
>> > My question is: can I simply remove the existing KB from it's circular
>> > socket and plug in the new KB to the single USB?
>> >
>> > I did plug in a coffee-cup warmer to the USB once, but removed it when I
>> > found it could only supply 500ma (found this info in one of the port
>specs
>> > list) the CCup was 800ma.
>> > Thanx for any clues,....Jason
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> Win98 should be able to detect and install your USB keyboard.
>> It will not draw too much current, so you should be OK...
>> However I'd advise you to use a PS/2 keyboard as you *might* not have USB
>> keyboard support in the bios
>
>Yes, I switched off the PC, unplugged the old KB, and selected the LHS USB
>port to plug in the new KB. Windows then prompted me 3 times to select
>various files, then it was all systems go.
>Thanx for your assistance. I'm not very good at PCs, and I was worried I
>would blow something up
>Jason
>

You wont blow anything up, but if you want to use raw dos, you will
NOT have a working keyboard. I got a usb mouse and since I use dos, I
could not have mouse support in dos. I went back to a serial mouse
and dumped that usb piece of crap on someone that only uses XP.
Seems they make everything for USB these days. I really dont
understand why. No USB mice, keyboards, printers for me.

Why would anyone abuse their power supply with a coffee warmer. You
do have an AC outlet on the wall, right? I wonder how much that thing
slowed down your computer? Just because someone makes stuff like that
does not mean it's practical or safe. I got a USB light as a gift.
It's pretty much useless. It has only one blue-white LED, so I am not
worried about power use, but I have yet to find a need for it.

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

With a machine as old as yours, you're right. No USB printer for you --
unless you were to bother to install a USB2 card. But for mouses and
keyboards there are USB to AT or PS/2 connectors converters readily
available. Heck, lots of USB keyboards and mouses come with a PS/2 converter
included.

But if you want to thump your chest about being a Luddite, go right ahead.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

<letterman@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:u6pp44tie7sf1vtepv2rebdbkhiorb1rnp@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:47:25 +1000, "Jason James" <at@peace.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
>>news:CoadnbgyI56j7dHVnZ2dnUVZ_sninZ2d@ntd.net...
>>>
>>> "Jason James" <at@peace.com> wrote in message
>>> news:484c680f$0$90788$c30e37c6@pit-reader.telstra.net...
>>> > I've had my win98se PC since 1999. Its running 85% free resources atm.
>>> I've
>>> > finally had to buy another k/board which has a USB plug only.
>>> > There is a USB port on the rear of the PC and mention of a heap of USB
>>> files
>>> > after doing a "search for files".
>>> >
>>> > My question is: can I simply remove the existing KB from it's circular
>>> > socket and plug in the new KB to the single USB?
>>> >
>>> > I did plug in a coffee-cup warmer to the USB once, but removed it when
>>> > I
>>> > found it could only supply 500ma (found this info in one of the port
>>specs
>>> > list) the CCup was 800ma.
>>> > Thanx for any clues,....Jason
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> Win98 should be able to detect and install your USB keyboard.
>>> It will not draw too much current, so you should be OK...
>>> However I'd advise you to use a PS/2 keyboard as you *might* not have
>>> USB
>>> keyboard support in the bios
>>
>>Yes, I switched off the PC, unplugged the old KB, and selected the LHS USB
>>port to plug in the new KB. Windows then prompted me 3 times to select
>>various files, then it was all systems go.
>>Thanx for your assistance. I'm not very good at PCs, and I was worried I
>>would blow something up
>>Jason
>>
>
> You wont blow anything up, but if you want to use raw dos, you will
> NOT have a working keyboard. I got a usb mouse and since I use dos, I
> could not have mouse support in dos. I went back to a serial mouse
> and dumped that usb piece of crap on someone that only uses XP.
> Seems they make everything for USB these days. I really dont
> understand why. No USB mice, keyboards, printers for me.
>
> Why would anyone abuse their power supply with a coffee warmer. You
> do have an AC outlet on the wall, right? I wonder how much that thing
> slowed down your computer? Just because someone makes stuff like that
> does not mean it's practical or safe. I got a USB light as a gift.
> It's pretty much useless. It has only one blue-white LED, so I am not
> worried about power use, but I have yet to find a need for it.

 

[MEB]

If you want to thump your chest about being a sheeple continue on...

What's wrong, all the young XP and Vista users run you guys out of those
forums or what...

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:uLZYq8jyIHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| With a machine as old as yours, you're right. No USB printer for you --
| unless you were to bother to install a USB2 card. But for mouses and
| keyboards there are USB to AT or PS/2 connectors converters readily
| available. Heck, lots of USB keyboards and mouses come with a PS/2
converter
| included.
|
| But if you want to thump your chest about being a Luddite, go right ahead.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| http://grystmill.com
|
| <letterman@invalid.com> wrote in message
| news:u6pp44tie7sf1vtepv2rebdbkhiorb1rnp@4ax.com...
| > On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:47:25 +1000, "Jason James" <at@peace.com> wrote:
| >
| >>
| >>"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
| >>news:CoadnbgyI56j7dHVnZ2dnUVZ_sninZ2d@ntd.net...
| >>>
| >>> "Jason James" <at@peace.com> wrote in message
| >>> news:484c680f$0$90788$c30e37c6@pit-reader.telstra.net...
| >>> > I've had my win98se PC since 1999. Its running 85% free resources
atm.
| >>> I've
| >>> > finally had to buy another k/board which has a USB plug only.
| >>> > There is a USB port on the rear of the PC and mention of a heap of
USB
| >>> files
| >>> > after doing a "search for files".
| >>> >
| >>> > My question is: can I simply remove the existing KB from it's
circular
| >>> > socket and plug in the new KB to the single USB?
| >>> >
| >>> > I did plug in a coffee-cup warmer to the USB once, but removed it
when
| >>> > I
| >>> > found it could only supply 500ma (found this info in one of the port
| >>specs
| >>> > list) the CCup was 800ma.
| >>> > Thanx for any clues,....Jason
| >>> >
| >>> >
| >>>
| >>>
| >>> Win98 should be able to detect and install your USB keyboard.
| >>> It will not draw too much current, so you should be OK...
| >>> However I'd advise you to use a PS/2 keyboard as you *might* not have
| >>> USB
| >>> keyboard support in the bios
| >>
| >>Yes, I switched off the PC, unplugged the old KB, and selected the LHS
USB
| >>port to plug in the new KB. Windows then prompted me 3 times to select
| >>various files, then it was all systems go.
| >>Thanx for your assistance. I'm not very good at PCs, and I was worried I
| >>would blow something up
| >>Jason
| >>
| >
| > You wont blow anything up, but if you want to use raw dos, you will
| > NOT have a working keyboard. I got a usb mouse and since I use dos, I
| > could not have mouse support in dos. I went back to a serial mouse
| > and dumped that usb piece of crap on someone that only uses XP.
| > Seems they make everything for USB these days. I really dont
| > understand why. No USB mice, keyboards, printers for me.
| >
| > Why would anyone abuse their power supply with a coffee warmer. You
| > do have an AC outlet on the wall, right? I wonder how much that thing
| > slowed down your computer? Just because someone makes stuff like that
| > does not mean it's practical or safe. I got a USB light as a gift.
| > It's pretty much useless. It has only one blue-white LED, so I am not
| > worried about power use, but I have yet to find a need for it.
|
|

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Go diagnose a BSOD, Luddite. Though in your case, you probably belong with
9x. You apparently don't actually use your computers for anything but
useless "testing" and posting to the Usenet, maybe some plain text internet
surfing. 98's good enough for that.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eIOCoSlyIHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> If you want to thump your chest about being a sheeple continue on...
>
> What's wrong, all the young XP and Vista users run you guys out of those
> forums or what...
>
> --
> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> --
> _________
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:uLZYq8jyIHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | With a machine as old as yours, you're right. No USB printer for you --
> | unless you were to bother to install a USB2 card. But for mouses and
> | keyboards there are USB to AT or PS/2 connectors converters readily
> | available. Heck, lots of USB keyboards and mouses come with a PS/2
> converter
> | included.
> |
> | But if you want to thump your chest about being a Luddite, go right
> ahead.
> |
> | --
> | Gary S. Terhune
> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | http://grystmill.com
> |
> | <letterman@invalid.com> wrote in message
> | news:u6pp44tie7sf1vtepv2rebdbkhiorb1rnp@4ax.com...
> | > On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:47:25 +1000, "Jason James" <at@peace.com> wrote:
> | >
> | >>
> | >>"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
> | >>news:CoadnbgyI56j7dHVnZ2dnUVZ_sninZ2d@ntd.net...
> | >>>
> | >>> "Jason James" <at@peace.com> wrote in message
> | >>> news:484c680f$0$90788$c30e37c6@pit-reader.telstra.net...
> | >>> > I've had my win98se PC since 1999. Its running 85% free resources
> atm.
> | >>> I've
> | >>> > finally had to buy another k/board which has a USB plug only.
> | >>> > There is a USB port on the rear of the PC and mention of a heap of
> USB
> | >>> files
> | >>> > after doing a "search for files".
> | >>> >
> | >>> > My question is: can I simply remove the existing KB from it's
> circular
> | >>> > socket and plug in the new KB to the single USB?
> | >>> >
> | >>> > I did plug in a coffee-cup warmer to the USB once, but removed it
> when
> | >>> > I
> | >>> > found it could only supply 500ma (found this info in one of the
> port
> | >>specs
> | >>> > list) the CCup was 800ma.
> | >>> > Thanx for any clues,....Jason
> | >>> >
> | >>> >
> | >>>
> | >>>
> | >>> Win98 should be able to detect and install your USB keyboard.
> | >>> It will not draw too much current, so you should be OK...
> | >>> However I'd advise you to use a PS/2 keyboard as you *might* not
> have
> | >>> USB
> | >>> keyboard support in the bios
> | >>
> | >>Yes, I switched off the PC, unplugged the old KB, and selected the LHS
> USB
> | >>port to plug in the new KB. Windows then prompted me 3 times to select
> | >>various files, then it was all systems go.
> | >>Thanx for your assistance. I'm not very good at PCs, and I was worried
> I
> | >>would blow something up
> | >>Jason
> | >>
> | >
> | > You wont blow anything up, but if you want to use raw dos, you will
> | > NOT have a working keyboard. I got a usb mouse and since I use dos, I
> | > could not have mouse support in dos. I went back to a serial mouse
> | > and dumped that usb piece of crap on someone that only uses XP.
> | > Seems they make everything for USB these days. I really dont
> | > understand why. No USB mice, keyboards, printers for me.
> | >
> | > Why would anyone abuse their power supply with a coffee warmer. You
> | > do have an AC outlet on the wall, right? I wonder how much that thing
> | > slowed down your computer? Just because someone makes stuff like that
> | > does not mean it's practical or safe. I got a USB light as a gift.
> | > It's pretty much useless. It has only one blue-white LED, so I am not
> | > worried about power use, but I have yet to find a need for it.
> |
> |
>
>

 

[MEB]

Gee, okay, Mr. Sheeple,,, so spend your time downloading hundreds of "fixes"
for your XP and VISTA machines, that STILL leave you vulnerable, open new
vulnerabilities, and support or rather DEMAND YOU support all those Web 2.0,
DRM, and other intrusions and while knowing that supposedly secure system
you run CAN BE and IS constantly being attacked while on the Internet... its
part of the design FEATURE.....

Run some tests Gary, expand your knowledge..

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:%239FKsslyIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| Go diagnose a BSOD, Luddite. Though in your case, you probably belong with
| 9x. You apparently don't actually use your computers for anything but
| useless "testing" and posting to the Usenet, maybe some plain text
internet
| surfing. 98's good enough for that.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| http://grystmill.com
|
| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:eIOCoSlyIHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > If you want to thump your chest about being a sheeple continue on...
| >
| > What's wrong, all the young XP and Vista users run you guys out of those
| > forums or what...
| >
| > --
| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > --
| > _________
| >
| > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > news:uLZYq8jyIHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > | With a machine as old as yours, you're right. No USB printer for
you --
| > | unless you were to bother to install a USB2 card. But for mouses and
| > | keyboards there are USB to AT or PS/2 connectors converters readily
| > | available. Heck, lots of USB keyboards and mouses come with a PS/2
| > converter
| > | included.
| > |
| > | But if you want to thump your chest about being a Luddite, go right
| > ahead.
| > |
| > | --
| > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | http://grystmill.com
| > |
| > | <letterman@invalid.com> wrote in message
| > | news:u6pp44tie7sf1vtepv2rebdbkhiorb1rnp@4ax.com...
| > | > On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:47:25 +1000, "Jason James" <at@peace.com>
wrote:
| > | >
| > | >>
| > | >>"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
| > | >>news:CoadnbgyI56j7dHVnZ2dnUVZ_sninZ2d@ntd.net...
| > | >>>
| > | >>> "Jason James" <at@peace.com> wrote in message
| > | >>> news:484c680f$0$90788$c30e37c6@pit-reader.telstra.net...
| > | >>> > I've had my win98se PC since 1999. Its running 85% free
resources
| > atm.
| > | >>> I've
| > | >>> > finally had to buy another k/board which has a USB plug only.
| > | >>> > There is a USB port on the rear of the PC and mention of a heap
of
| > USB
| > | >>> files
| > | >>> > after doing a "search for files".
| > | >>> >
| > | >>> > My question is: can I simply remove the existing KB from it's
| > circular
| > | >>> > socket and plug in the new KB to the single USB?
| > | >>> >
| > | >>> > I did plug in a coffee-cup warmer to the USB once, but removed
it
| > when
| > | >>> > I
| > | >>> > found it could only supply 500ma (found this info in one of the
| > port
| > | >>specs
| > | >>> > list) the CCup was 800ma.
| > | >>> > Thanx for any clues,....Jason
| > | >>> >
| > | >>> >
| > | >>>
| > | >>>
| > | >>> Win98 should be able to detect and install your USB keyboard.
| > | >>> It will not draw too much current, so you should be OK...
| > | >>> However I'd advise you to use a PS/2 keyboard as you *might* not
| > have
| > | >>> USB
| > | >>> keyboard support in the bios
| > | >>
| > | >>Yes, I switched off the PC, unplugged the old KB, and selected the
LHS
| > USB
| > | >>port to plug in the new KB. Windows then prompted me 3 times to
select
| > | >>various files, then it was all systems go.
| > | >>Thanx for your assistance. I'm not very good at PCs, and I was
worried
| > I
| > | >>would blow something up
| > | >>Jason
| > | >>
| > | >
| > | > You wont blow anything up, but if you want to use raw dos, you will
| > | > NOT have a working keyboard. I got a usb mouse and since I use dos,
I
| > | > could not have mouse support in dos. I went back to a serial mouse
| > | > and dumped that usb piece of crap on someone that only uses XP.
| > | > Seems they make everything for USB these days. I really dont
| > | > understand why. No USB mice, keyboards, printers for me.
| > | >
| > | > Why would anyone abuse their power supply with a coffee warmer. You
| > | > do have an AC outlet on the wall, right? I wonder how much that
thing
| > | > slowed down your computer? Just because someone makes stuff like
that
| > | > does not mean it's practical or safe. I got a USB light as a gift.
| > | > It's pretty much useless. It has only one blue-white LED, so I am
not
| > | > worried about power use, but I have yet to find a need for it.
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

 

[Jason James]

<letterman@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:u6pp44tie7sf1vtepv2rebdbkhiorb1rnp@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:47:25 +1000, "Jason James" <at@peace.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
> >news:CoadnbgyI56j7dHVnZ2dnUVZ_sninZ2d@ntd.net...
> >>
> >> "Jason James" <at@peace.com> wrote in message
> >> news:484c680f$0$90788$c30e37c6@pit-reader.telstra.net...
> >> > I've had my win98se PC since 1999. Its running 85% free resources
atm.
> >> I've
> >> > finally had to buy another k/board which has a USB plug only.
> >> > There is a USB port on the rear of the PC and mention of a heap of
USB
> >> files
> >> > after doing a "search for files".
> >> >
> >> > My question is: can I simply remove the existing KB from it's
circular
> >> > socket and plug in the new KB to the single USB?
> >> >
> >> > I did plug in a coffee-cup warmer to the USB once, but removed it
when I
> >> > found it could only supply 500ma (found this info in one of the port
> >specs
> >> > list) the CCup was 800ma.
> >> > Thanx for any clues,....Jason
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Win98 should be able to detect and install your USB keyboard.
> >> It will not draw too much current, so you should be OK...
> >> However I'd advise you to use a PS/2 keyboard as you *might* not have
USB
> >> keyboard support in the bios
> >
> >Yes, I switched off the PC, unplugged the old KB, and selected the LHS
USB
> >port to plug in the new KB. Windows then prompted me 3 times to select
> >various files, then it was all systems go.
> >Thanx for your assistance. I'm not very good at PCs, and I was worried I
> >would blow something up
> >Jason
> >
>
> You wont blow anything up, but if you want to use raw dos, you will
> NOT have a working keyboard. I got a usb mouse and since I use dos, I
> could not have mouse support in dos. I went back to a serial mouse
> and dumped that usb piece of crap on someone that only uses XP.
> Seems they make everything for USB these days. I really dont
> understand why. No USB mice, keyboards, printers for me.
>
> Why would anyone abuse their power supply with a coffee warmer. You
> do have an AC outlet on the wall, right? I wonder how much that thing
> slowed down your computer? Just because someone makes stuff like that
> does not mean it's practical or safe. I got a USB light as a gift.
> It's pretty much useless. It has only one blue-white LED, so I am not
> worried about power use, but I have yet to find a need for it.

I'vew also noted that printers are all USB now, plus anything that is
rechargeable from a 5volt source,...will have a USB plug on it. Better off
leaving the PC internal power-supplies for what they were intended for.

Jason

 

[Jason James]

"Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message
news:uAnrspcyIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Yes. If desired, you can also get a USB to ps/2 adapter and use the
> circular socket.

Thanx for that info Ron. I notice printers now use USB instead of parallel D
connector. Is that correct?

Jason

 

[Jeff Richards]

Any printer you buy today is going to be USB. You can get parallel to USB
adapters to solve the connection problem, but you would still have to check
that w98 drivers for the printer were available.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Jason James" <at@peace.com> wrote in message
news:484d89cb$0$90774$c30e37c6@pit-reader.telstra.net...
>
> "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message
> news:uAnrspcyIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Yes. If desired, you can also get a USB to ps/2 adapter and use the
>> circular socket.
>
> Thanx for that info Ron. I notice printers now use USB instead of parallel
> D
> connector. Is that correct?
>
> Jason

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

We've been around this block before. You say "intrusive", I say "progress",
blah, blah. When you can actually stoop to answer serious questions put to
you about your theories of comparative OSes, you let me know. Until then, if
you really need an argument, go read our last one.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ud0qd8lyIHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Gee, okay, Mr. Sheeple,,, so spend your time downloading hundreds of
> "fixes"
> for your XP and VISTA machines, that STILL leave you vulnerable, open new
> vulnerabilities, and support or rather DEMAND YOU support all those Web
> 2.0,
> DRM, and other intrusions and while knowing that supposedly secure system
> you run CAN BE and IS constantly being attacked while on the Internet...
> its
> part of the design FEATURE.....
>
> Run some tests Gary, expand your knowledge..
>
> --
> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> --
> _________
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:%239FKsslyIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | Go diagnose a BSOD, Luddite. Though in your case, you probably belong
> with
> | 9x. You apparently don't actually use your computers for anything but
> | useless "testing" and posting to the Usenet, maybe some plain text
> internet
> | surfing. 98's good enough for that.
> |
> | --
> | Gary S. Terhune
> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | http://grystmill.com
> |
> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | news:eIOCoSlyIHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | > If you want to thump your chest about being a sheeple continue on...
> | >
> | > What's wrong, all the young XP and Vista users run you guys out of
> those
> | > forums or what...
> | >
> | > --
> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | > --
> | > _________
> | >
> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | > news:uLZYq8jyIHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | > | With a machine as old as yours, you're right. No USB printer for
> you --
> | > | unless you were to bother to install a USB2 card. But for mouses and
> | > | keyboards there are USB to AT or PS/2 connectors converters readily
> | > | available. Heck, lots of USB keyboards and mouses come with a PS/2
> | > converter
> | > | included.
> | > |
> | > | But if you want to thump your chest about being a Luddite, go right
> | > ahead.
> | > |
> | > | --
> | > | Gary S. Terhune
> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > | http://grystmill.com
> | > |
> | > | <letterman@invalid.com> wrote in message
> | > | news:u6pp44tie7sf1vtepv2rebdbkhiorb1rnp@4ax.com...
> | > | > On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:47:25 +1000, "Jason James" <at@peace.com>
> wrote:
> | > | >
> | > | >>
> | > | >>"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
> | > | >>news:CoadnbgyI56j7dHVnZ2dnUVZ_sninZ2d@ntd.net...
> | > | >>>
> | > | >>> "Jason James" <at@peace.com> wrote in message
> | > | >>> news:484c680f$0$90788$c30e37c6@pit-reader.telstra.net...
> | > | >>> > I've had my win98se PC since 1999. Its running 85% free
> resources
> | > atm.
> | > | >>> I've
> | > | >>> > finally had to buy another k/board which has a USB plug only.
> | > | >>> > There is a USB port on the rear of the PC and mention of a
> heap
> of
> | > USB
> | > | >>> files
> | > | >>> > after doing a "search for files".
> | > | >>> >
> | > | >>> > My question is: can I simply remove the existing KB from it's
> | > circular
> | > | >>> > socket and plug in the new KB to the single USB?
> | > | >>> >
> | > | >>> > I did plug in a coffee-cup warmer to the USB once, but removed
> it
> | > when
> | > | >>> > I
> | > | >>> > found it could only supply 500ma (found this info in one of
> the
> | > port
> | > | >>specs
> | > | >>> > list) the CCup was 800ma.
> | > | >>> > Thanx for any clues,....Jason
> | > | >>> >
> | > | >>> >
> | > | >>>
> | > | >>>
> | > | >>> Win98 should be able to detect and install your USB keyboard.
> | > | >>> It will not draw too much current, so you should be OK...
> | > | >>> However I'd advise you to use a PS/2 keyboard as you *might* not
> | > have
> | > | >>> USB
> | > | >>> keyboard support in the bios
> | > | >>
> | > | >>Yes, I switched off the PC, unplugged the old KB, and selected the
> LHS
> | > USB
> | > | >>port to plug in the new KB. Windows then prompted me 3 times to
> select
> | > | >>various files, then it was all systems go.
> | > | >>Thanx for your assistance. I'm not very good at PCs, and I was
> worried
> | > I
> | > | >>would blow something up
> | > | >>Jason
> | > | >>
> | > | >
> | > | > You wont blow anything up, but if you want to use raw dos, you
> will
> | > | > NOT have a working keyboard. I got a usb mouse and since I use
> dos,
> I
> | > | > could not have mouse support in dos. I went back to a serial
> mouse
> | > | > and dumped that usb piece of crap on someone that only uses XP.
> | > | > Seems they make everything for USB these days. I really dont
> | > | > understand why. No USB mice, keyboards, printers for me.
> | > | >
> | > | > Why would anyone abuse their power supply with a coffee warmer.
> You
> | > | > do have an AC outlet on the wall, right? I wonder how much that
> thing
> | > | > slowed down your computer? Just because someone makes stuff like
> that
> | > | > does not mean it's practical or safe. I got a USB light as a
> gift.
> | > | > It's pretty much useless. It has only one blue-white LED, so I am
> not
> | > | > worried about power use, but I have yet to find a need for it.
> | > |
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>

 

[Ingeborg]

Jeff Richards wrote:

> Any printer you buy today is going to be USB. You can get parallel to
> USB adapters to solve the connection problem, but you would still have
> to check that w98 drivers for the printer were available.

I don't think so. An USB-parallel adapter is designed to connect a parallel
printer to an usb port. Not inversed.

When you need a new printer, and don't want/not able to use usb, you'd
better look for a network printer, or maybe use a printerserver like this:
<http://www.sweex.ch/pers.php?detail=80&sectie=laatste&subsectie=producten>
(Don't forget to check if that server supports your printer, and W98)

 

[Jeff Richards]

They might not be common, but they certainly exist. For instance,
http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~heha/bastelecke/Rund um den PC/USB2LPT/index.html.en

But, in any case, I wasn't advocating that solution. For most current
printers, finding drivers that work with W98 is going to be the bigger
problem. If the drivers are available, then adding a USB PCI card or even a
USB PCMCIA device is easier than trying to use the parallel port.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Ingeborg" <a@b.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns9AB9641B05A4Aabinvalid@217.21.244.90...
> Jeff Richards wrote:
>
>> Any printer you buy today is going to be USB. You can get parallel to
>> USB adapters to solve the connection problem, but you would still have
>> to check that w98 drivers for the printer were available.
>
> I don't think so. An USB-parallel adapter is designed to connect a
> parallel
> printer to an usb port. Not inversed.
>
> When you need a new printer, and don't want/not able to use usb, you'd
> better look for a network printer, or maybe use a printerserver like this:
> <http://www.sweex.ch/pers.php?detail=80&sectie=laatste&subsectie=producten>
> (Don't forget to check if that server supports your printer, and W98)
>

 

[Ingeborg]

Jeff Richards wrote:

> They might not be common, but they certainly exist. For instance,
>

Great! ) Do you have any experience with this? According to the 'USB2LPT
- Evaluation system' photo it does not contain any non-trivial logic. So I
suppose all work is done by the driver. I wonder what that means for
processor load while printing.

 

[Ingeborg]

Ingeborg wrote:

> Jeff Richards wrote:
>
>> They might not be common, but they certainly exist. For instance,
>>
>
> Great! ) Do you have any experience with this? According to the
> 'USB2LPT - Evaluation system' photo it does not contain any
> non-trivial logic. So I suppose all work is done by the driver. I
> wonder what that means for processor load while printing.
>

Oops, I was looking to the wrong page, it had to be
<http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~heha/bastelecke/Rund%20um%20den%20PC/USB2LPT/lpt2usb.htm.en>
This device contains a complete USB host controller.