WinXP --> Win98 Dial Up (direct)

[Harvey]

I have been able to set up my Win98 computer to directly dial up my
WinXP computer and get access to my LAN (connected to my WinXP
computer).
I want to do it the other way too.
From WinXP directly dial up my Win98 and get access to the LAN
connected to it.
The connection in rejected after typing in the username, password and
domain.
The username I use is the same as I use to log onto Win98 on that
computer.
The domain is the name of the Win98 computer.
Where might I start looking for the problem.

Thanks
Harvey

 

[Jeff Richards]

The server is not enabled in W98 by default. See here for instructions on
how to enable it:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/139710
How to Enable Dial-Up Networking Server Capabilities
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Harvey" <harveyab@juno.com> wrote in message
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>I have been able to set up my Win98 computer to directly dial up my
> WinXP computer and get access to my LAN (connected to my WinXP
> computer).
> I want to do it the other way too.
> From WinXP directly dial up my Win98 and get access to the LAN
> connected to it.
> The connection in rejected after typing in the username, password and
> domain.
> The username I use is the same as I use to log onto Win98 on that
> computer.
> The domain is the name of the Win98 computer.
> Where might I start looking for the problem.
>
> Thanks
> Harvey

 

[Harvey]

On Jun 9, 4:38 pm, "Jeff Richards" <JRicha...@msn.com.au> wrote:
> The server is not enabled in W98 by default. See here for instructions on
> how to enable it:http://support.microsoft.com/kb/139710
> How to Enable Dial-Up Networking Server Capabilities
> --
> Jeff Richards
> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)"Harvey" <harve...@juno.com> wrote in message
>
> news:029735d0-29f3-4e59-8453-7ea6c42395bf@x19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
> >I have been able to set up my Win98 computer to directly dial up my
> > WinXP computer and get access to my LAN (connected to my WinXP
> > computer).
> > I want to do it the other way too.
> > From WinXP directly dial up my Win98 and get access to the LAN
> > connected to it.
> > The connection in rejected after typing in the username, password and
> > domain.
> > The username I use is the same as I use to log onto Win98 on that
> > computer.
> > The domain is the name of the Win98 computer.
> > Where might I start looking for the problem.
>
> > Thanks
> > Harvey

Sorry, I should have mentioned that I have that part installed, and it
does answer the call.
Otherwise I would not get to the prompt for a username, password and
domain.
But where I am stuck is that the remote host rejects the logon.
Thanks,
Harvey

 

[Harvey]

On Jun 9, 3:19 pm, Harvey <harve...@juno.com> wrote:
> I have been able to set up my Win98 computer to directly dial up my
> WinXP computer and get access to my LAN (connected to my WinXP
> computer).
> I want to do it the other way too.
> From WinXP directly dial up my Win98 and get access to the LAN
> connected to it.
> The connection in rejected after typing in the username, password and
> domain.
> The username I use is the same as I use to log onto Win98 on that
> computer.
> The domain is the name of the Win98 computer.
> Where might I start looking for the problem.
>
> Thanks
> Harvey

Any help here?
I have it working the other way around, Win98 --> WinXP.
Is it possible (without 3rd party SW)?
TIA
Harvey

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Such an impatient soul. Now I see why you overwrote all those files... You
didn't take the time to think abut what the error message was really saying.

The only people I can think of that might know what you overwrote, which
Updates might restore the proper files, are long gone from the Windows 98
milieu. But, if you can develop some patience, I might just get around to
building a fresh test machine and figuring it out for you. Do you think you
can be patient?

Then again, from what I can tell, this is just a game for you. Maybe I
should just let you go play your game. YOU flatten your machine, rebuild it,
do the Updating thing and THEN install DUN Server again and see what files
you are prompted to overwrite. Or is that a problem for you?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Harvey" <harveyab@juno.com> wrote in message
news:0f3c7e9b-c54c-4b1c-9b3f-21ae14688627@c19g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 9, 3:19 pm, Harvey <harve...@juno.com> wrote:
>> I have been able to set up my Win98 computer to directly dial up my
>> WinXP computer and get access to my LAN (connected to my WinXP
>> computer).
>> I want to do it the other way too.
>> From WinXP directly dial up my Win98 and get access to the LAN
>> connected to it.
>> The connection in rejected after typing in the username, password and
>> domain.
>> The username I use is the same as I use to log onto Win98 on that
>> computer.
>> The domain is the name of the Win98 computer.
>> Where might I start looking for the problem.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Harvey
>
> Any help here?
> I have it working the other way around, Win98 --> WinXP.
> Is it possible (without 3rd party SW)?
> TIA
> Harvey

 

[MEB]

Ah, is this really direct dial, as in remote desktop you are attempting?

Describe exactly what you want to be able to do, and what your present
problem is.

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"Harvey" <harveyab@juno.com> wrote in message
news:0f3c7e9b-c54c-4b1c-9b3f-21ae14688627@c19g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
| On Jun 9, 3:19 pm, Harvey <harve...@juno.com> wrote:
| > I have been able to set up my Win98 computer to directly dial up my
| > WinXP computer and get access to my LAN (connected to my WinXP
| > computer).
| > I want to do it the other way too.
| > From WinXP directly dial up my Win98 and get access to the LAN
| > connected to it.
| > The connection in rejected after typing in the username, password and
| > domain.
| > The username I use is the same as I use to log onto Win98 on that
| > computer.
| > The domain is the name of the Win98 computer.
| > Where might I start looking for the problem.
| >
| > Thanks
| > Harvey
|
| Any help here?
| I have it working the other way around, Win98 --> WinXP.
| Is it possible (without 3rd party SW)?
| TIA
| Harvey

 

[Jeff Richards]

You have to fix the file version mismatch problem before attempting to
resolve the logon problem.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Harvey" <harveyab@juno.com> wrote in message
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> snip <

> Any help here?
> I have it working the other way around, Win98 --> WinXP.
> Is it possible (without 3rd party SW)?
> TIA
> Harvey

 

[Harvey]

On Jun 11, 9:27 am, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
> Such an impatient soul. Now I see why you overwrote all those files... You
> didn't take the time to think abut what the error message was really saying.
>
> The only people I can think of that might know what you overwrote, which
> Updates might restore the proper files, are long gone from the Windows 98
> milieu. But, if you can develop some patience, I might just get around to
> building a fresh test machine and figuring it out for you. Do you think you
> can be patient?
>
> Then again, from what I can tell, this is just a game for you. Maybe I
> should just let you go play your game. YOU flatten your machine, rebuild it,
> do the Updating thing and THEN install DUN Server again and see what files
> you are prompted to overwrite. Or is that a problem for you?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/Userhttp://grystmill.com
>
> "Harvey" <harve...@juno.com> wrote in message
>
> news:0f3c7e9b-c54c-4b1c-9b3f-21ae14688627@c19g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Jun 9, 3:19 pm, Harvey <harve...@juno.com> wrote:
> >> I have been able to set up my Win98 computer to directly dial up my
> >> WinXP computer and get access to my LAN (connected to my WinXP
> >> computer).
> >> I want to do it the other way too.
> >> From WinXP directly dial up my Win98 and get access to the LAN
> >> connected to it.
> >> The connection in rejected after typing in the username, password and
> >> domain.
> >> The username I use is the same as I use to log onto Win98 on that
> >> computer.
> >> The domain is the name of the Win98 computer.
> >> Where might I start looking for the problem.
>
> >> Thanks
> >> Harvey
>
> > Any help here?
> > I have it working the other way around, Win98 --> WinXP.
> > Is it possible (without 3rd party SW)?
> > TIA
> > Harvey

Gary you have been very helpful on my other thread.
Thank you.
Harvey

 

[Harvey]

On Jun 11, 2:32 pm, "Jeff Richards" <JRicha...@msn.com.au> wrote:
> You have to fix the file version mismatch problem before attempting to
> resolve the logon problem.
> --
> Jeff Richards
> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)"Harvey" <harve...@juno.com> wrote in message
>
> news:0f3c7e9b-c54c-4b1c-9b3f-21ae14688627@c19g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > snip <
> > Any help here?
> > I have it working the other way around, Win98 --> WinXP.
> > Is it possible (without 3rd party SW)?
> > TIA
> > Harvey

That has been done now.
Thanks,
Harvey

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Sorry, I went overboard with the sarcasm. It was intended to be
tongue-in-cheek, not as offensive as it turned out to be. Blame it on not
enough sleep and no caffeine.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Harvey" <harveyab@juno.com> wrote in message
news:298d0475-721a-4145-bf0e-57a102ba30da@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 11, 9:27 am, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
>> Such an impatient soul. Now I see why you overwrote all those files...
>> You
>> didn't take the time to think abut what the error message was really
>> saying.
>>
>> The only people I can think of that might know what you overwrote, which
>> Updates might restore the proper files, are long gone from the Windows 98
>> milieu. But, if you can develop some patience, I might just get around to
>> building a fresh test machine and figuring it out for you. Do you think
>> you
>> can be patient?
>>
>> Then again, from what I can tell, this is just a game for you. Maybe I
>> should just let you go play your game. YOU flatten your machine, rebuild
>> it,
>> do the Updating thing and THEN install DUN Server again and see what
>> files
>> you are prompted to overwrite. Or is that a problem for you?
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/Userhttp://grystmill.com
>>
>> "Harvey" <harve...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:0f3c7e9b-c54c-4b1c-9b3f-21ae14688627@c19g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > On Jun 9, 3:19 pm, Harvey <harve...@juno.com> wrote:
>> >> I have been able to set up my Win98 computer to directly dial up my
>> >> WinXP computer and get access to my LAN (connected to my WinXP
>> >> computer).
>> >> I want to do it the other way too.
>> >> From WinXP directly dial up my Win98 and get access to the LAN
>> >> connected to it.
>> >> The connection in rejected after typing in the username, password and
>> >> domain.
>> >> The username I use is the same as I use to log onto Win98 on that
>> >> computer.
>> >> The domain is the name of the Win98 computer.
>> >> Where might I start looking for the problem.
>>
>> >> Thanks
>> >> Harvey
>>
>> > Any help here?
>> > I have it working the other way around, Win98 --> WinXP.
>> > Is it possible (without 3rd party SW)?
>> > TIA
>> > Harvey
>
> Gary you have been very helpful on my other thread.
> Thank you.
> Harvey

 

[Harvey]

On Jun 11, 9:32 am, "MEB" <meb@not h...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Ah, is this really direct dial, as in remote desktop you are attempting?
>
> Describe exactly what you want to be able to do, and what your present
> problem is.

It is not remote desktop. I want to access the files on the Win98
computer from the WinXP notebook while "on the road" using direct dial
up to my Win98 computer, not via the Internet. No third party SW
involved. Just want it to show up in "My Network Places." It works to
direct dial the other direction.

I get the prompt for Username, Password and Domain, but they are
rejected by the other (Win98) computer (Error 691. Access was denied
because the Username and/or password was invalid on the domain.) The
"Status" window on the Win98 DUN Server dialog shows "Monitoring",
"Answering", "Hanging Up" when trying. Where/how do I tell the Win98
DUN Server who can dial in? I can change the password with the
"Change Password" button, but aren't the passwords linked to
usernames? (That doesn't make sense to me.) Or do I even need a
Username. I have been trying with the same username and password I use
to log into Windows (on both computers). I have also tried leaving it
blank or the Domain blank. (It says that I don't need a Domain name.)
What use is the "Comment" field. When I have both connected to my
Ethernet LAN I have access to each from the other. I expect
(hopefully) to be able to access other things on my LAN via this DUN
connection.

I suspect the Domain name is my problem. I am using the name of my
Win98 computer. Does it want a dotted quad? On the "Connect" dialog
box (on the WinXP screen) it says "You can enter a domain name or
leave the domain field empty. (Domain names are not required for
connections to the Internet)". But since I am not connecting to the
Internet, I should need one, right?
ipconfig shows:

C:\WINDOWS\DESKTOP>ipconfig/all | more

Windows 98 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . :
HARV950.domain_not_set.invalidDEST
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
68.238.128.12
Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No

0 Ethernet adapter :

Description . . . . . . . . : NDIS 5.0 driver

Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-D0-09-C6-0E-48
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.65
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 06 11 08 11:34:48 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 06 12 08 11:34:48 AM

1 Ethernet adapter :

Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.
Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . :
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
Lease Expires . . . . . . . :

2 Ethernet adapter :

Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.
Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . :
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
Lease Expires . . . . . . . :

C:\WINDOWS\DESKTOP>

Harvey

> --
> MEBhttp://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> --
> _________
>
> "Harvey" <harve...@juno.com> wrote in message
>
> news:0f3c7e9b-c54c-4b1c-9b3f-21ae14688627@c19g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> | On Jun 9, 3:19 pm, Harvey <harve...@juno.com> wrote:
> | > I have been able to set up my Win98 computer to directly dial up my
> | > WinXP computer and get access to my LAN (connected to my WinXP
> | > computer).
> | > I want to do it the other way too.
> | > From WinXP directly dial up my Win98 and get access to the LAN
> | > connected to it.
> | > The connection in rejected after typing in the username, password and
> | > domain.
> | > The username I use is the same as I use to log onto Win98 on that
> | > computer.
> | > The domain is the name of the Win98 computer.
> | > Where might I start looking for the problem.
> | >
> | > Thanks
> | > Harvey
> |
> | Any help here?
> | I have it working the other way around, Win98 --> WinXP.
> | Is it possible (without 3rd party SW)?
> | TIA
> | Harvey

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Is this it? Error message, "The computer you have dialed in to has denied
access because the username and/or password is invalid on the domain."
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/148899/

A reference I thought might help, though I don't think it's the issue here.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/145843

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Harvey" <harveyab@juno.com> wrote in message
news:0f3c7e9b-c54c-4b1c-9b3f-21ae14688627@c19g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 9, 3:19 pm, Harvey <harve...@juno.com> wrote:
>> I have been able to set up my Win98 computer to directly dial up my
>> WinXP computer and get access to my LAN (connected to my WinXP
>> computer).
>> I want to do it the other way too.
>> From WinXP directly dial up my Win98 and get access to the LAN
>> connected to it.
>> The connection in rejected after typing in the username, password and
>> domain.
>> The username I use is the same as I use to log onto Win98 on that
>> computer.
>> The domain is the name of the Win98 computer.
>> Where might I start looking for the problem.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Harvey
>
> Any help here?
> I have it working the other way around, Win98 --> WinXP.
> Is it possible (without 3rd party SW)?
> TIA
> Harvey

 

[Harvey]

On Jun 12, 5:01 pm, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
> Sorry, I went overboard with the sarcasm. It was intended to be
> tongue-in-cheek, not as offensive as it turned out to be. Blame it on not
> enough sleep and no caffeine.

Ah, thank you.
Again, I appreciate all your help.
Harvey

> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/Userhttp://grystmill.com
>
> "Harvey" <harve...@juno.com> wrote in message
>
> news:298d0475-721a-4145-bf0e-57a102ba30da@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Jun 11, 9:27 am, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
> >> Such an impatient soul. Now I see why you overwrote all those files...
> >> You
> >> didn't take the time to think abut what the error message was really
> >> saying.
>
> >> The only people I can think of that might know what you overwrote, which
> >> Updates might restore the proper files, are long gone from the Windows 98
> >> milieu. But, if you can develop some patience, I might just get around to
> >> building a fresh test machine and figuring it out for you. Do you think
> >> you
> >> can be patient?
>
> >> Then again, from what I can tell, this is just a game for you. Maybe I
> >> should just let you go play your game. YOU flatten your machine, rebuild
> >> it,
> >> do the Updating thing and THEN install DUN Server again and see what
> >> files
> >> you are prompted to overwrite. Or is that a problem for you?
>
> >> --
> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> MS-MVP Shell/Userhttp://grystmill.com
>
> >> "Harvey" <harve...@juno.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:0f3c7e9b-c54c-4b1c-9b3f-21ae14688627@c19g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > On Jun 9, 3:19 pm, Harvey <harve...@juno.com> wrote:
> >> >> I have been able to set up my Win98 computer to directly dial up my
> >> >> WinXP computer and get access to my LAN (connected to my WinXP
> >> >> computer).
> >> >> I want to do it the other way too.
> >> >> From WinXP directly dial up my Win98 and get access to the LAN
> >> >> connected to it.
> >> >> The connection in rejected after typing in the username, password and
> >> >> domain.
> >> >> The username I use is the same as I use to log onto Win98 on that
> >> >> computer.
> >> >> The domain is the name of the Win98 computer.
> >> >> Where might I start looking for the problem.
>
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >> Harvey
>
> >> > Any help here?
> >> > I have it working the other way around, Win98 --> WinXP.
> >> > Is it possible (without 3rd party SW)?
> >> > TIA
> >> > Harvey
>
> > Gary you have been very helpful on my other thread.
> > Thank you.
> > Harvey

 

[MEB]

"Harvey" <harveyab@juno.com> wrote in message
news:faf62a9f-390e-431d-8923-6c130eb1d206@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
| On Jun 11, 9:32 am, "MEB" <meb@not h...@hotmail.com> wrote:
| > Ah, is this really direct dial, as in remote desktop you are attempting?
| >
| > Describe exactly what you want to be able to do, and what your present
| > problem is.
|
| It is not remote desktop. I want to access the files on the Win98
| computer from the WinXP notebook while "on the road" using direct dial
| up to my Win98 computer, not via the Internet. No third party SW
| involved. Just want it to show up in "My Network Places." It works to
| direct dial the other direction.

By that you mean it works from 98 to XP correct?

Hmm, so you went through the complete DUN server setup on 98SE with actual
other computer name, having shared folders, etc..
What server type did you indicate?
Did you try scripting and/or VPN?
Do you have an actual Windows Logon name and password or do you bypass
logon?
Did you enable File and Printer sharing and set that up?
Did you set *share-level access*?
Did you check your firewall for port configuration?

IS THIS WHAT YOU DID?
Select the Server Types tab and check the following options: Log on to
network, Enable software compression, Require encrypted password, Require
data encryption and TCP/IP. Now click the TCP/IP Settings button
Check Server assigned IP address and Server assigned name server addresses.
Click OK

OR ALTERNATIVELY:
Click on the Server Type... button (or tab).
Select PPP: Windows 95, Windows NT 3.5, Internet from the "Type of Dial-Up
Server" pop-up list.
Turn off all of the listed options other than TCP/IP.
Click the TCP/IP Settings button at the bottom of this window.
Click Server assigned IP address on the top.
Click Specify name server addresses in the middle of the window. The section
below it should become active.
Enter the DNS number for the XP machine OR for your local machine with a
HOSTS file containing local network entries. Leave 0.0.0.0 in the two WINS
fields.
Click OK in all the open windows to save the settings.
Then close out of Dial-up Networking.


Did you or do you have these issues? The page includes a few fixes which
might be related to your issue. A couple are similar to the links Gary
posted.
http://ludit.kuleuven.be/internet/kotnet/savepasw.html

|
| I get the prompt for Username, Password and Domain, but they are
| rejected by the other (Win98) computer (Error 691. Access was denied
| because the Username and/or password was invalid on the domain.) The
| "Status" window on the Win98 DUN Server dialog shows "Monitoring",
| "Answering", "Hanging Up" when trying. Where/how do I tell the Win98
| DUN Server who can dial in? I can change the password with the
| "Change Password" button, but aren't the passwords linked to
| usernames? (That doesn't make sense to me.) Or do I even need a
| Username. I have been trying with the same username and password I use
| to log into Windows (on both computers). I have also tried leaving it
| blank or the Domain blank. (It says that I don't need a Domain name.)
| What use is the "Comment" field. When I have both connected to my
| Ethernet LAN I have access to each from the other. I expect
| (hopefully) to be able to access other things on my LAN via this DUN
| connection.

If you intend this extended type of connection which you indicate above,
then you should really use VPN. Look at C:\WINDOWS\HELP\VPN.CHM,
C:\WINDOWS\HELP\DIALER.CHM, C:\WINDOWS\HELP\WINDOWS.CHM,
C:\WINDOWS\HELP\RNAAPP.CHM, and C:\WINDOWS\HELP\NETWORK.CHM.

http://blogs.technet.com/rrasblog/a...-unblock-for-vpn-traffic-to-pass-through.aspx
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/network/bb531150.aspx
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/325034 - troubleshoot VPN
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/network/bb545442.aspx
http://search.technet.microsoft.com...=&locale=en-us&query=L2TP/IPsec update for 98
http://www.umassd.edu/cits/wireless/vpnforwin98_me.pdf - a good reference

Or a 2002 VPN L2TP/IPsec for 98:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/324915/en-us
http://download.microsoft.com/download/win98/Install/1.0/W9XNT4Me/EN-US/msl2tp.exe -
be cautious with this one...

WHEW, that's more information you likely don't need or want.

|
| I suspect the Domain name is my problem. I am using the name of my
| Win98 computer. Does it want a dotted quad? On the "Connect" dialog
| box (on the WinXP screen) it says "You can enter a domain name or
| leave the domain field empty. (Domain names are not required for
| connections to the Internet)". But since I am not connecting to the
| Internet, I should need one, right?
| ipconfig shows:
|
| C:\WINDOWS\DESKTOP>ipconfig/all | more
|
| Windows 98 IP Configuration
|
| Host Name . . . . . . . . . :
| HARV950.domain_not_set.invalidDEST
| DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
| 68.238.128.12
| Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
| NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
| IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No
| WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
| NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No
|
| 0 Ethernet adapter :
|
| Description . . . . . . . . : NDIS 5.0 driver
|
| Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-D0-09-C6-0E-48
| DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
| IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.65
| Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
| Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
| DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
| Primary WINS Server . . . . :
| Secondary WINS Server . . . :
| Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 06 11 08 11:34:48 AM
| Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 06 12 08 11:34:48 AM
|
| 1 Ethernet adapter :
|
| Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.
| Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00
| DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
| IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
| Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
| Default Gateway . . . . . . :
| DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
| Primary WINS Server . . . . :
| Secondary WINS Server . . . :
| Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
| Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
|
| 2 Ethernet adapter :
|
| Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.
| Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-01
| DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
| IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
| Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
| Default Gateway . . . . . . :
| DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
| Primary WINS Server . . . . :
| Secondary WINS Server . . . :
| Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
| Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
|
| C:\WINDOWS\DESKTOP>
|
| Harvey
|
| > --
| > MEBhttp://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > --
| > _________
| >
| > "Harvey" <harve...@juno.com> wrote in message
| >
| >
news:0f3c7e9b-c54c-4b1c-9b3f-21ae14688627@c19g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
| > | On Jun 9, 3:19 pm, Harvey <harve...@juno.com> wrote:
| > | > I have been able to set up my Win98 computer to directly dial up my
| > | > WinXP computer and get access to my LAN (connected to my WinXP
| > | > computer).
| > | > I want to do it the other way too.
| > | > From WinXP directly dial up my Win98 and get access to the LAN
| > | > connected to it.
| > | > The connection in rejected after typing in the username, password
and
| > | > domain.
| > | > The username I use is the same as I use to log onto Win98 on that
| > | > computer.
| > | > The domain is the name of the Win98 computer.
| > | > Where might I start looking for the problem.
| > | >
| > | > Thanks
| > | > Harvey
| > |
| > | Any help here?
| > | I have it working the other way around, Win98 --> WinXP.
| > | Is it possible (without 3rd party SW)?
| > | TIA
| > | Harvey

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

 

[MEB]

After searching around for DUN/VPN server issues, I thought maybe a web
page might be in order.

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/dun_vpn_diag.htm

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Those advertising pop-ups on your site suck big time. And, yes, I know how
to block pop-ups, but then I have to turn the blocker off for when I need
pop-ups, which is regularly. Fact is, my normal surfing these days is fairly
popup-free except for the necessary ones. But your pop-ups are particularly
insidious. If you haven't actually experienced them, I suggest you check
them out.

For someone so concerned about internet intrusions, you sure have a
hypocritical attitude about the advertising you use.

For those of you caught in Maurice's pop-up problem, right-click the button
on the taskbar and close. Anything else will just lead to more crap.

And, Maurice, if the advertising is coming from orgfree.com, then I suggest
that there are some quite inexpensive alternatives that include your own
full domain name, etc. I pay ~$10/month for mine, but I could get it for a
LOT less if I were in the mood to switch. (here, for instance
http://hosting.aplus.net/) I am secure in the knowledge that I am in total
control of the content my can visitors receive (though, of course, whether
they want to see the content or not is up to them.) One thing I *certainly*
wouldn't countenance is that crap on your site.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uhaQ6MZzIHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
> After searching around for DUN/VPN server issues, I thought maybe a web
> page might be in order.
>
> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/dun_vpn_diag.htm
>
> --
> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> --
> _________
>
>

 

[MEB]

DUHHHH, those aren't MY popups.... those come from the *free* service. Might
try only enabling popups from sites you actually want them from... do you
need some help configuring that, or do you think you can find that
information. Google would be your friend for this, do you know how to use
Google?

IF you need help, start a new discussion and I'll walk you through the
techniques and changes necessary...

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________


"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:%23nTzTfZzIHA.3504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| Those advertising pop-ups on your site suck big time. And, yes, I know how
| to block pop-ups, but then I have to turn the blocker off for when I need
| pop-ups, which is regularly. Fact is, my normal surfing these days is
fairly
| popup-free except for the necessary ones. But your pop-ups are
particularly
| insidious. If you haven't actually experienced them, I suggest you check
| them out.
|
| For someone so concerned about internet intrusions, you sure have a
| hypocritical attitude about the advertising you use.
|
| For those of you caught in Maurice's pop-up problem, right-click the
button
| on the taskbar and close. Anything else will just lead to more crap.
|
| And, Maurice, if the advertising is coming from orgfree.com, then I
suggest
| that there are some quite inexpensive alternatives that include your own
| full domain name, etc. I pay ~$10/month for mine, but I could get it for a
| LOT less if I were in the mood to switch. (here, for instance
| http://hosting.aplus.net/) I am secure in the knowledge that I am in total
| control of the content my can visitors receive (though, of course, whether
| they want to see the content or not is up to them.) One thing I
*certainly*
| wouldn't countenance is that crap on your site.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| http://grystmill.com
|
| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:uhaQ6MZzIHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| >
| > After searching around for DUN/VPN server issues, I thought maybe a web
| > page might be in order.
| >
| > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/dun_vpn_diag.htm
| >
| > --
| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > --
| > _________
| >
| >
|
|

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

1. I know they aren't yours, I said as much. But now it's clear that you
will willingly trade with your enemy in order to save a few bucks. Surely
you can find a free service with higher moral standards.

2. I don't know ahead of time which sites I go to use pop-ups. Some that I'm
accustomed to using change their procedures to using them. I so seldom have
problems with pop-ups that I simply turn them off for sites that can't stop
after one. Or remember to never go there again. Even the major commercial
sites that use them for simple advertising, don't make them of the "can't
close", endless pop-ups variety. Those types are reserved to the ninth
circle of hell.

In any case, for those of us who think YOU are responsible for whatever
tries to get into our computers when we go to YOUR site, I thought the
warning was warranted.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23c5XbuZzIHA.5108@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> DUHHHH, those aren't MY popups.... those come from the *free* service.
> Might
> try only enabling popups from sites you actually want them from... do you
> need some help configuring that, or do you think you can find that
> information. Google would be your friend for this, do you know how to use
> Google?
>
> IF you need help, start a new discussion and I'll walk you through the
> techniques and changes necessary...
>
> --
> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> --
> _________
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:%23nTzTfZzIHA.3504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> | Those advertising pop-ups on your site suck big time. And, yes, I know
> how
> | to block pop-ups, but then I have to turn the blocker off for when I
> need
> | pop-ups, which is regularly. Fact is, my normal surfing these days is
> fairly
> | popup-free except for the necessary ones. But your pop-ups are
> particularly
> | insidious. If you haven't actually experienced them, I suggest you check
> | them out.
> |
> | For someone so concerned about internet intrusions, you sure have a
> | hypocritical attitude about the advertising you use.
> |
> | For those of you caught in Maurice's pop-up problem, right-click the
> button
> | on the taskbar and close. Anything else will just lead to more crap.
> |
> | And, Maurice, if the advertising is coming from orgfree.com, then I
> suggest
> | that there are some quite inexpensive alternatives that include your own
> | full domain name, etc. I pay ~$10/month for mine, but I could get it for
> a
> | LOT less if I were in the mood to switch. (here, for instance
> | http://hosting.aplus.net/) I am secure in the knowledge that I am in
> total
> | control of the content my can visitors receive (though, of course,
> whether
> | they want to see the content or not is up to them.) One thing I
> *certainly*
> | wouldn't countenance is that crap on your site.
> |
> | --
> | Gary S. Terhune
> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | http://grystmill.com
> |
> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | news:uhaQ6MZzIHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | >
> | > After searching around for DUN/VPN server issues, I thought maybe a
> web
> | > page might be in order.
> | >
> | > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/dun_vpn_diag.htm
> | >
> | > --
> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | > --
> | > _________
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>

 

[MEB]

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:eHRcd5ZzIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| 1. I know they aren't yours, I said as much. But now it's clear that you
| will willingly trade with your enemy in order to save a few bucks. Surely
| you can find a free service with higher moral standards.
|
| 2. I don't know ahead of time which sites I go to use pop-ups. Some that
I'm
| accustomed to using change their procedures to using them. I so seldom
have
| problems with pop-ups that I simply turn them off for sites that can't
stop
| after one. Or remember to never go there again. Even the major commercial
| sites that use them for simple advertising, don't make them of the "can't
| close", endless pop-ups variety. Those types are reserved to the ninth
| circle of hell.
|
| In any case, for those of us who think YOU are responsible for whatever
| tries to get into our computers when we go to YOUR site, I thought the
| warning was warranted.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| http://grystmill.com
|


Well, then you haven't been party to any of the discussions with the service
operators, have you... gees I even posted indication of this several times
in this group..

Just as YOU want everything, right now, and don't care how you get it, so
do the operators of that service... I find it quite amusing that you
continue to subject yourself to tracking cookies, popups, and other junk
which can easily be blocked by one who bothers to look for methods to do so,
particularly as you are an MVP for the Windows OSs.

As for where else to put my site, seems most people are just like you
apparently are, when confronted with a pro bono site for which I have no
more intention to supply cost out of my own pocket, they feel they should
make some type of money from it. I thought the materials relevant enough to
put it in the public rather than as the limited VPN it was for years. Not
that many people actually appreciate the site, since it deals with reality
rather than daily junk, mindless ramblings, and misdirections based largely
upon the thin air that seems to be what the video/TV/gaming/scripted
unreality public presently desires and gets lost in Seems the students find
some of the materials useful, and the materials were used for awhile in
various courses offered, but then that would make them potentially as the
apparently hated intellectuals in America.

Soooo, if you want to stop the operators from doing what they are, why not
drop them an email or two explaining your position on their service. There
is a contact address for them on the main orgfree service page.

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________



| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:%23c5XbuZzIHA.5108@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > DUHHHH, those aren't MY popups.... those come from the *free* service.
| > Might
| > try only enabling popups from sites you actually want them from... do
you
| > need some help configuring that, or do you think you can find that
| > information. Google would be your friend for this, do you know how to
use
| > Google?
| >
| > IF you need help, start a new discussion and I'll walk you through the
| > techniques and changes necessary...
| >
| > --
| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > --
| > _________
| >
| >
| > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > news:%23nTzTfZzIHA.3504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| > | Those advertising pop-ups on your site suck big time. And, yes, I know
| > how
| > | to block pop-ups, but then I have to turn the blocker off for when I
| > need
| > | pop-ups, which is regularly. Fact is, my normal surfing these days is
| > fairly
| > | popup-free except for the necessary ones. But your pop-ups are
| > particularly
| > | insidious. If you haven't actually experienced them, I suggest you
check
| > | them out.
| > |
| > | For someone so concerned about internet intrusions, you sure have a
| > | hypocritical attitude about the advertising you use.
| > |
| > | For those of you caught in Maurice's pop-up problem, right-click the
| > button
| > | on the taskbar and close. Anything else will just lead to more crap.
| > |
| > | And, Maurice, if the advertising is coming from orgfree.com, then I
| > suggest
| > | that there are some quite inexpensive alternatives that include your
own
| > | full domain name, etc. I pay ~$10/month for mine, but I could get it
for
| > a
| > | LOT less if I were in the mood to switch. (here, for instance
| > | http://hosting.aplus.net/) I am secure in the knowledge that I am in
| > total
| > | control of the content my can visitors receive (though, of course,
| > whether
| > | they want to see the content or not is up to them.) One thing I
| > *certainly*
| > | wouldn't countenance is that crap on your site.
| > |
| > | --
| > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | http://grystmill.com
| > |
| > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | news:uhaQ6MZzIHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | >
| > | > After searching around for DUN/VPN server issues, I thought maybe a
| > web
| > | > page might be in order.
| > | >
| > | > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/dun_vpn_diag.htm
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | > --
| > | > _________
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OodnLtdzIHA.5472@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:eHRcd5ZzIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | 1. I know they aren't yours, I said as much. But now it's clear that you
> | will willingly trade with your enemy in order to save a few bucks.
> Surely
> | you can find a free service with higher moral standards.
> |
> | 2. I don't know ahead of time which sites I go to use pop-ups. Some that
> I'm
> | accustomed to using change their procedures to using them. I so seldom
> have
> | problems with pop-ups that I simply turn them off for sites that can't
> stop
> | after one. Or remember to never go there again. Even the major
> commercial
> | sites that use them for simple advertising, don't make them of the
> "can't
> | close", endless pop-ups variety. Those types are reserved to the ninth
> | circle of hell.
> |
> | In any case, for those of us who think YOU are responsible for whatever
> | tries to get into our computers when we go to YOUR site, I thought the
> | warning was warranted.
> |
> | --
> | Gary S. Terhune
> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | http://grystmill.com
> |
>
>
> Well, then you haven't been party to any of the discussions with the
> service
> operators, have you... gees I even posted indication of this several times
> in this group..

What's that, some excuse? Do you think I read every word you post? What do
you say, "Beware of my site, it has nasty stuff." You certainly don't put
that disclaimer on every one of your posts (which all have at least one link
to your site.)

And who are these "service operators"? If you're hinting at some fine-print
weasel out... I'm talking about YOU, Maurice, the self-annointed Pope of
security in this group. You don't feel just a little bit icky trading your
soul and selling your your site to purveyors of such objectionable crap,
crap that's totally rare outside the sex sites these days? I know, because I
leave my pop-up blocker off an go to all kinds of free sites, drivers
downloads, etc. I even click on the sex links every once in a while to see
what they're up to. The one I got at your site today is one I haven't seen
in a couple of years. Probably because it turned out not to get positive
results.

> Just as YOU want everything, right now, and don't care how you get it, so
> do the operators of that service... I find it quite amusing that you
> continue to subject yourself to tracking cookies, popups, and other junk
> which can easily be blocked by one who bothers to look for methods to do
> so,
> particularly as you are an MVP for the Windows OSs.

You haven't the slightest idea what I do to protect myself. I'm perfectly
well protected from anything getting into my machine that will cause me any
problems. Additionally, I keep TOTAL control of cookies, and I've already
explained that contrary to your opinion, I find pop-ups to be indispensible
in a lot of places I go, and I HATE whitelists. I also don't have much good
to say for anyone who lumps all this stuff together as BAD when in many if
not most cases outside the sex sites it works like it was intended to.

> As for where else to put my site, seems most people are just like you
> apparently are, when confronted with a pro bono site for which I have no
> more intention to supply cost out of my own pocket, they feel they should
> make some type of money from it. I thought the materials relevant enough
> to
> put it in the public rather than as the limited VPN it was for years. Not
> that many people actually appreciate the site, since it deals with reality
> rather than daily junk, mindless ramblings, and misdirections based
> largely
> upon the thin air that seems to be what the video/TV/gaming/scripted
> unreality public presently desires and gets lost in Seems the students
> find
> some of the materials useful, and the materials were used for awhile in
> various courses offered, but then that would make them potentially as the
> apparently hated intellectuals in America.
>
> Soooo, if you want to stop the operators from doing what they are, why not
> drop them an email or two explaining your position on their service. There
> is a contact address for them on the main orgfree service page.

Those last two paragraphs are unintelligible. Care to try again? You're
saying that *I* want to make money from your site? That I make money from
mine? What? And who cares who goes to your site and why? When you send
people there from here, where you have a certain reputation, posting CERTs,
trying to get me any way you can to discuss comparative OSes especially with
regard to security (when it's obvious that I couldn't care less), one would
not expect the site to be so sleazy. If *I* were seriously interested in
your writings (and I have read at least some of your stuff), I would
certainly be offput by the crap invasion and would have second and third
thoughts as to your seriousness and dedication to your declared values.

Anyway, as I said, my primary point was to WARN PEOPLE THAT MEB's SITE IS
FULL OF INVASIVE CRAPWARE. That MEB is such a weasel that he can only say
that it's not HIS site but his HOST's site that is doing the nasty, that he
has no control over that situation. Think about the logic in that last
sentence and then ask yourself, "Just who is this MEB dude, really?"

I've already answered that one, posted those answers a few times, and I've
yet to see you prove me wrong. In fact, just the opposite, you continue to
amaze me with your hypocrisies.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com


>
> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | news:%23c5XbuZzIHA.5108@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | > DUHHHH, those aren't MY popups.... those come from the *free* service.
> | > Might
> | > try only enabling popups from sites you actually want them from... do
> you
> | > need some help configuring that, or do you think you can find that
> | > information. Google would be your friend for this, do you know how to
> use
> | > Google?
> | >
> | > IF you need help, start a new discussion and I'll walk you through the
> | > techniques and changes necessary...
> | >
> | > --
> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | > --
> | > _________
> | >
> | >
> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> | > news:%23nTzTfZzIHA.3504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> | > | Those advertising pop-ups on your site suck big time. And, yes, I
> know
> | > how
> | > | to block pop-ups, but then I have to turn the blocker off for when I
> | > need
> | > | pop-ups, which is regularly. Fact is, my normal surfing these days
> is
> | > fairly
> | > | popup-free except for the necessary ones. But your pop-ups are
> | > particularly
> | > | insidious. If you haven't actually experienced them, I suggest you
> check
> | > | them out.
> | > |
> | > | For someone so concerned about internet intrusions, you sure have a
> | > | hypocritical attitude about the advertising you use.
> | > |
> | > | For those of you caught in Maurice's pop-up problem, right-click the
> | > button
> | > | on the taskbar and close. Anything else will just lead to more crap.
> | > |
> | > | And, Maurice, if the advertising is coming from orgfree.com, then I
> | > suggest
> | > | that there are some quite inexpensive alternatives that include your
> own
> | > | full domain name, etc. I pay ~$10/month for mine, but I could get it
> for
> | > a
> | > | LOT less if I were in the mood to switch. (here, for instance
> | > | http://hosting.aplus.net/) I am secure in the knowledge that I am in
> | > total
> | > | control of the content my can visitors receive (though, of course,
> | > whether
> | > | they want to see the content or not is up to them.) One thing I
> | > *certainly*
> | > | wouldn't countenance is that crap on your site.
> | > |
> | > | --
> | > | Gary S. Terhune
> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > | http://grystmill.com
> | > |
> | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | > | news:uhaQ6MZzIHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | > | >
> | > | > After searching around for DUN/VPN server issues, I thought maybe
> a
> | > web
> | > | > page might be in order.
> | > | >
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