Question re USB features on win98se PC

[Franc Zabkar]

On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:19:19 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

>I took apart the new installer for the Deskjet 5400 series and while I could
>avoid installing most of the software and just "bare install" the thing to
>XP, no can do for 9x systems.

I downloaded this Win XP/2K driver pack (51MB):
ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softlib/software5/COL11453/dj-33863-1/5400_enu_win2k_xp.exe

The installer created the following subdirectory ...

temp\enu\drivers\win9x_me

.... which contained the following files:

hpzrm114.dl_
hpf5400z.inf
hpf5400x.inf
usbmon.dll
usbprint.sys

A readme.html file for the included HP printer software states that
....

"Product support is not available if your printer is installed on a
computer running Windows 98 (original edition)

To receive product support, your printer must be installed on a
computer running Windows 98 Second Edition (SE) or later."

It seems to me that all the necessary Win98SE stuff is included.
<shrug>

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

I find no Readme.html, not inside anything, not anywhere. When I use either
of those INF files, I am immediately prompted to provide HPBMIAPI.DLL, which
also does not exist in the entire collection. I downloaded a set of files
from online that contains that file and claims to include 5400 series
support. However, it has all the missing files that the other one wants,
almost entirely from the DeskJet Imaging that gets installed (and some from
the hp_webrelease folder.) But that second download is a "no_networking"
version, so maybe that's why it won't work. I'm trying to set up this
Win98SE to print to the DeskJet 5440 on my daughter's machine over the
network (USB connected there.)

Anyway, I'm going to drag that printer out and plug it in directly and see
if I can make any of this work. Else I'll have to crack the whip and get her
to find the CD that came with it. Or get lucky and find a copy online.
www.driveragent.com isn't much help. Gonna cancel that subscription.
www.driverguide.com has all kinds of 98 drivers for the 5400 series, all
48.5MB, v 14.41730, but not one copy is in English! I tried as German one,
but in spite of its claiming to be 9x drivers, it immediately comes up
requiring clusapi.dll, which is an NT-only file.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
news:ajol5416p390jsh58g76s4cj2bk3hlcj0l@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:19:19 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> put
> finger to keyboard and composed:
>
>>I took apart the new installer for the Deskjet 5400 series and while I
>>could
>>avoid installing most of the software and just "bare install" the thing to
>>XP, no can do for 9x systems.
>
> I downloaded this Win XP/2K driver pack (51MB):
> ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softlib/software5/COL11453/dj-33863-1/5400_enu_win2k_xp.exe
>
> The installer created the following subdirectory ...
>
> temp\enu\drivers\win9x_me
>
> ... which contained the following files:
>
> hpzrm114.dl_
> hpf5400z.inf
> hpf5400x.inf
> usbmon.dll
> usbprint.sys
>
> A readme.html file for the included HP printer software states that
> ...
>
> "Product support is not available if your printer is installed on a
> computer running Windows 98 (original edition)
>
> To receive product support, your printer must be installed on a
> computer running Windows 98 Second Edition (SE) or later."
>
> It seems to me that all the necessary Win98SE stuff is included.
> <shrug>
>
> - Franc Zabkar
> --
> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

 

[who where]

On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:00:30 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:

>"who where" <noone@home.net> wrote in message
>news:rvlj5457tkklshcn0n1h52sbl2cqj7og98@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:21:37 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
>>
>>>What you see in Device manager is what you'd see for that double-port, to
>>>answer one of your questions. The first device is the USB controller on
>>>the
>>>motherboard, the second item is the part keyboard itself, the Hub it the
>>>unit that is connected to and mounted right on the mobo in this case. The
>>>hub has two ports.
>>>
>>>As for printers... Those USB ports on your machine are almost certainly
>>>USB
>>>1.1 and that means slow. Since things like printers have gotten used to
>>>straight network connection or fast USB2, even with an Parallel port
>>>adapter, and assuming there are even drivers for your system, they aren't
>>>likely to work well if at all.
>>
>> That's not my experience. I am currently using a Canon iP3000 on a Dell
>> Latitude CPi laptop (P2-300) with USB1.1 port, and there are neither
>> dramas nor
>> perceptible bottlenecks.
>
>No, it's just slow all around. Drama comes when one part is slow and the
>other part expects fast. If you'll check that model's specs, though, it says
>nothing about USB2, and if it were a USB2 capable machine, it would say so.
>(If you don't believe that, check out the specs for newer models in the same
>line at Canon.com, say the IP3500.) IOW, your printer was built for USB1.1.
>It was also relatively expensive, from what I can discern. That IP3500 is
>more in line with what the OP says he's looking at -- CHEAP printers.

This was cheap, and also uses the last of the unchipped carts -)

>In any case, I wasn't stating a rule, just a generality for which you have
>provided an excellent exception. Too bad you can't buy them anymore.

I appreciate it may well be an exception, but it works for me (like 98SE).