Gary S. Terhune, your security website article fails to load

[Dan]

I was just looking over your website and the security article fails to load.
Did you temporarily remove it?

http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

Mozilla Firefox and Internet Explorer give me the message that this page
cannot be found.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Ditto.

Dan wrote:
> I was just looking over your website and the security article fails to
> load.
> Did you temporarily remove it?
>
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> Mozilla Firefox and Internet Explorer give me the message that this page
> cannot be found.

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

I took it down for updating (some apps I recommended are no longer
appropriate.) I just keep forgetting where I put my round tuit. I'll take a
look at it now and see just how much editing it really needs.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:O6t45fk2IHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Ditto.
>
> Dan wrote:
>> I was just looking over your website and the security article fails to
>> load.
>> Did you temporarily remove it?
>>
>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>>
>> Mozilla Firefox and Internet Explorer give me the message that this page
>> cannot be found.
>

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Have we had a good discussion of what anti-virus and other anti-malware
products still work on Win9x systems, lately? I know Avast! works well, and
perhaps an earlier version of AVG (but what about Updates?)

Then there's David's Multi-AV, and F-Prot for DOS...

Any others?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:O6t45fk2IHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Ditto.
>
> Dan wrote:
>> I was just looking over your website and the security article fails to
>> load.
>> Did you temporarily remove it?
>>
>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>>
>> Mozilla Firefox and Internet Explorer give me the message that this page
>> cannot be found.
>

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Might as well include firewalls in the discussion. So far I have Sygate, ZA,
Tiny (the old version), Kerio (old version)... Anything else?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:%23BkDE%23k2IHA.416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Have we had a good discussion of what anti-virus and other anti-malware
> products still work on Win9x systems, lately? I know Avast! works well,
> and perhaps an earlier version of AVG (but what about Updates?)
>
> Then there's David's Multi-AV, and F-Prot for DOS...
>
> Any others?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O6t45fk2IHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Ditto.
>>
>> Dan wrote:
>>> I was just looking over your website and the security article fails to
>>> load.
>>> Did you temporarily remove it?
>>>
>>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>>>
>>> Mozilla Firefox and Internet Explorer give me the message that this page
>>> cannot be found.
>>
>
>

 

[Ron Badour]

I think I found your round tuit but I just didn't have any energy so I cast
it aside and had a nice visit with my recliner Can't help on the W98
apps Gary, too out of touch with the 98 scene.

--
Regards

Ron Badour
MS MVP 1997 - 2008


"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:OUyAI4k2IHA.4920@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>I took it down for updating (some apps I recommended are no longer
>appropriate.) I just keep forgetting where I put my round tuit. I'll take a
>look at it now and see just how much editing it really needs.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O6t45fk2IHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Ditto.
>>
>> Dan wrote:
>>> I was just looking over your website and the security article fails to
>>> load.
>>> Did you temporarily remove it?
>>>
>>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>>>
>>> Mozilla Firefox and Internet Explorer give me the message that this page
>>> cannot be found.
>>
>
>

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

At 2:10 AM, you'd think I'd be fast asleep on my couch (I literally live in
the living room these days.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message
news:u6jMV0l2IHA.4672@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I think I found your round tuit but I just didn't have any energy so I cast
>it aside and had a nice visit with my recliner Can't help on the W98
>apps Gary, too out of touch with the 98 scene.
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Ron Badour
> MS MVP 1997 - 2008
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:OUyAI4k2IHA.4920@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>I took it down for updating (some apps I recommended are no longer
>>appropriate.) I just keep forgetting where I put my round tuit. I'll take
>>a look at it now and see just how much editing it really needs.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://grystmill.com
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:O6t45fk2IHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Ditto.
>>>
>>> Dan wrote:
>>>> I was just looking over your website and the security article fails to
>>>> load.
>>>> Did you temporarily remove it?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>>>>
>>>> Mozilla Firefox and Internet Explorer give me the message that this
>>>> page
>>>> cannot be found.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

[Ingeborg]

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> Might as well include firewalls in the discussion. So far I have
> Sygate, ZA, Tiny (the old version), Kerio (old version)... Anything
> else?
>

Agnitum Outpost Free
<http://www.agnitum.com/products/outpostfree/index.php>

 

[Dan]

Apparently, AVG is still supporting version 7.5 of its anti-virus program
which works well. Avast works well as well but in my opinion is almost too
concerned about security which can be good and bad. It can help keep users
safer but also raise false alarms like the one about Yahoo.com being
infected, a false positive about a file on my dad's computer, prevent certain
Microsoft tools like the client that Microsoft provided me from working to

Please steer clear of AVG version 8 for any computer because at least the
free version has known issues and will of course not run on 98. In regards,
to firewalls you want a multi-layered safety and security approach to keeping
98 Second Edition safe on the Internet these days. I would suggest a router
that has built in firewall capabilities and please don't use the default
settings and change the authentication password to a complex password.
Microsoft has a tool to help users make strong passwords. It is located at

http://www.microsoft.com/protect/yourself/password/checker.mspx

In addition, a wired connection is always more secure than a wireless
connection. Remember, that Microsoft will no longer provide security updates
for Windows 98 Second Edition so users must use other software to make 98 and
98 SE more secure on the Internet. I like Mozilla Firefox and version 2.0.x
is still supported with 98. Eventually, Mozilla will retire version 2 of
Firefox and version 3 of Firefox does not support Windows 98. Opera has its
fans but I do not care much for it and its user base is too small currently
to have too many hackers working on breaking into the Opera web browser. The
Opera web browser is an alternative especially if Mozilla discontinues
support of Mozilla Firefox 2.0.x and in doing so no longer provides support
for Windows 98. As far as software firewalls are concerned I do not have a
good suggestion of which one is best with Windows 98 and/or 98SE Edition.

I like the XP Professional firewall but there you do have to watch if you
allow any exceptions. I am giving Windows Live Care a trial period on the XP
Professional side of my machine to see how I like it.


"Ingeborg" wrote:

> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>
> > Might as well include firewalls in the discussion. So far I have
> > Sygate, ZA, Tiny (the old version), Kerio (old version)... Anything
> > else?
> >
>
> Agnitum Outpost Free
> <http://www.agnitum.com/products/outpostfree/index.php>
>
>

 

[Bill in Co.]

Why are you living in the living room, and not the computer room, at such an
hour?

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> At 2:10 AM, you'd think I'd be fast asleep on my couch (I literally live
> in
> the living room these days.)
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message
> news:u6jMV0l2IHA.4672@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> I think I found your round tuit but I just didn't have any energy so I
>> cast
>> it aside and had a nice visit with my recliner Can't help on the
>> W98
>> apps Gary, too out of touch with the 98 scene.
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>>
>> Ron Badour
>> MS MVP 1997 - 2008
>>
>>
>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> news:OUyAI4k2IHA.4920@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> I took it down for updating (some apps I recommended are no longer
>>> appropriate.) I just keep forgetting where I put my round tuit. I'll
>>> take
>>> a look at it now and see just how much editing it really needs.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>> http://grystmill.com
>>>
>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:O6t45fk2IHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Ditto.
>>>>
>>>> Dan wrote:
>>>>> I was just looking over your website and the security article fails to
>>>>> load.
>>>>> Did you temporarily remove it?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> Mozilla Firefox and Internet Explorer give me the message that this
>>>>> page
>>>>> cannot be found.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

AVG is ending support for Win9x in August 2008.

Support for AVG v7.5 in any Windows version ends in December 2008.
~~
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


Dan wrote:
> Apparently, AVG is still supporting version 7.5 of its anti-virus program
> which works well...

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

The living room IS the computer room! Why do you think I live there?
Computer, TV, heater, cooler, kitchen is five steps away... Who needs a
bedroom? (Well, my daughter does, but I use mine for storage.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:%23WwxxMu2IHA.1808@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Why are you living in the living room, and not the computer room, at such
> an hour?
>
> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> At 2:10 AM, you'd think I'd be fast asleep on my couch (I literally live
>> in
>> the living room these days.)
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://grystmill.com
>>
>> "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message
>> news:u6jMV0l2IHA.4672@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> I think I found your round tuit but I just didn't have any energy so I
>>> cast
>>> it aside and had a nice visit with my recliner Can't help on the
>>> W98
>>> apps Gary, too out of touch with the 98 scene.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Ron Badour
>>> MS MVP 1997 - 2008
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>> news:OUyAI4k2IHA.4920@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> I took it down for updating (some apps I recommended are no longer
>>>> appropriate.) I just keep forgetting where I put my round tuit. I'll
>>>> take
>>>> a look at it now and see just how much editing it really needs.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>> http://grystmill.com
>>>>
>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:O6t45fk2IHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Ditto.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan wrote:
>>>>>> I was just looking over your website and the security article fails
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> load.
>>>>>> Did you temporarily remove it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mozilla Firefox and Internet Explorer give me the message that this
>>>>>> page
>>>>>> cannot be found.
>
>

 

[PCR]

Dan wrote:
| Apparently, AVG is still supporting version 7.5 of its anti-virus
| program which works well. Avast works well as well but in my opinion
| is almost too concerned about security which can be good and bad. It
| can help keep users safer but also raise false alarms like the one
| about Yahoo.com being infected, a false positive about a file on my
| dad's computer, prevent certain Microsoft tools like the client that
| Microsoft provided me from working to

It is easy & painless to go to avast!'s Settings, Exclusion, screen &
enter the name of the false positive. I have "C:\Program
Files\RioPort\Audio Manager\SetupMDM.exe" in there, myself!

(To know whether a file is a false positive, send it to a site such
as...
http://virusscan.jotti.org/
...., & it will be scanned by a ton of scanners.)

| Please steer clear of AVG version 8 for any computer because at least
| the free version has known issues and will of course not run on 98.
| In regards, to firewalls you want a multi-layered safety and security
| approach to keeping 98 Second Edition safe on the Internet these
| days. I would suggest a router that has built in firewall
| capabilities and please don't use the default settings and change the
| authentication password to a complex password. Microsoft has a tool
| to help users make strong passwords. It is located at
|
| http://www.microsoft.com/protect/yourself/password/checker.mspx
|
| In addition, a wired connection is always more secure than a wireless
| connection. Remember, that Microsoft will no longer provide security
| updates for Windows 98 Second Edition so users must use other
| software to make 98 and 98 SE more secure on the Internet. I like
| Mozilla Firefox and version 2.0.x is still supported with 98.
| Eventually, Mozilla will retire version 2 of Firefox and version 3 of
| Firefox does not support Windows 98. Opera has its fans but I do not
| care much for it and its user base is too small currently to have too
| many hackers working on breaking into the Opera web browser. The
| Opera web browser is an alternative especially if Mozilla
| discontinues support of Mozilla Firefox 2.0.x and in doing so no
| longer provides support for Windows 98. As far as software firewalls
| are concerned I do not have a good suggestion of which one is best
| with Windows 98 and/or 98SE Edition.
|
| I like the XP Professional firewall but there you do have to watch if
| you allow any exceptions. I am giving Windows Live Care a trial
| period on the XP Professional side of my machine to see how I like it.
|
|
| "Ingeborg" wrote:
|
|> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
|>
|> > Might as well include firewalls in the discussion. So far I have
|> > Sygate, ZA, Tiny (the old version), Kerio (old version)... Anything
|> > else?
|> >
|>
|> Agnitum Outpost Free
|> <http://www.agnitum.com/products/outpostfree/index.php>

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[Bill in Co.]

Guess I'm just not used to the idea of a computer in the living room. But
TV, yeah. Less distractions and more privacy (for computer use) in a
separate room like a bedroom!

Of course, if you're working on them (or several of them) for a living, that
may not be as practical, or even desireable.

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> The living room IS the computer room! Why do you think I live there?
> Computer, TV, heater, cooler, kitchen is five steps away... Who needs a
> bedroom? (Well, my daughter does, but I use mine for storage.)
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:%23WwxxMu2IHA.1808@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Why are you living in the living room, and not the computer room, at such
>> an hour?
>>
>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>>> At 2:10 AM, you'd think I'd be fast asleep on my couch (I literally live
>>> in
>>> the living room these days.)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>> http://grystmill.com
>>>
>>> "Ron Badour" <Sorry@NoAddress.com> wrote in message
>>> news:u6jMV0l2IHA.4672@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> I think I found your round tuit but I just didn't have any energy so I
>>>> cast
>>>> it aside and had a nice visit with my recliner Can't help on the
>>>> W98
>>>> apps Gary, too out of touch with the 98 scene.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Ron Badour
>>>> MS MVP 1997 - 2008
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>> news:OUyAI4k2IHA.4920@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> I took it down for updating (some apps I recommended are no longer
>>>>> appropriate.) I just keep forgetting where I put my round tuit. I'll
>>>>> take
>>>>> a look at it now and see just how much editing it really needs.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>> http://grystmill.com
>>>>>
>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:O6t45fk2IHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Ditto.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan wrote:
>>>>>>> I was just looking over your website and the security article fails
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> load.
>>>>>>> Did you temporarily remove it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mozilla Firefox and Internet Explorer give me the message that this
>>>>>>> page
>>>>>>> cannot be found.

 

[pixturesk@gmail.com]

On Jun 29, 9:20 pm, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
> Have we had a good discussion of what anti-virus and other anti-malware
> products still work on Win9x systems, lately? I know Avast! works well, and
> perhaps an earlier version of AVG (but what about Updates?)
>
> Then there's David's Multi-AV, and F-Prot for DOS...
>
> Any others?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/Userhttp://grystmill.com
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:O6t45fk2IHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
> > Ditto.
>
> > Dan wrote:
> >> I was just looking over your website and the security article fails to
> >> load.
> >> Did you temporarily remove it?
>
> >>http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> >> Mozilla Firefox and Internet Explorer give me the message that this page
> >> cannot be found.

The following is my setup for Win98SE: Avast, Super AntiSpyware Free,
Spyware Blaster, Sygate Version 5.5 2710, HiJack This, CCleaner. I
regularly go to the highly reliable "grc.com" to check the quality of
my protection by running their "Shields Up" tests (file sharing +
common ports). With this configuration, my computer reports a perfect
"stealth" result, non-existent on the internet.

 

[MEB]

In news:%23BkDE%23k2IHA.416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl at ,
Gary S. Terhune contemplated and posted:
| Have we had a good discussion of what anti-virus and other
| anti-malware products still work on Win9x systems, lately? I know
| Avast! works well, and perhaps an earlier version of AVG (but what
| about Updates?)
|
| Then there's David's Multi-AV, and F-Prot for DOS...
|
| Any others?

Been recently looking myself to update my page, here's what I have so far
for Anti-Virus products:

http://www.nod32uk.com/products/win9x.php - NOD32 for Windows 95/98/ME
{thought they had dropped support}

UNTESTED Anti-Virus
http://www.pspl.com/products/w95.htm - Protector Plus 2008 - 30 day eval.
http://www.srnmicro.com/products/win9xpage.htm - Solo Anti-Virus - also DOS
AV available
http://www.sophos.com/products/small-business/system-requirements.html -
Sophos AV
http://www.quickheal.co.in/products.asp - Quick Heal AntiVirus Plus 2008
Desktop Price:
$30/Year
http://www.fireav.com/products/win95page.htm - FIRE ANTI-VIRUS KIT FOR
WINDOWS 95, 98 & ME

BitDefender sent out notice that they had re-done [fixed] the program, but I
haven't tested the new version.
http://www.bitdefender.com

Several new firewall programs [and Anti-V, SpyWare] available on various
shareware sites claiming 98 support


|
|
| "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
| news:O6t45fk2IHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
|> Ditto.
|>
|> Dan wrote:
|>> I was just looking over your website and the security article fails
|>> to load.
|>> Did you temporarily remove it?
|>>
|>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
|>>
|>> Mozilla Firefox and Internet Explorer give me the message that this
|>> page cannot be found.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Well, I hope you don't let CCLeaner do anything to the Registry. It has no
history, no Undo function. I had the misfortune of having a Dell tech, of
all people, install and run CCleaner in a clients new machine. Pissed me off
royally. Had to do a System Restore (Vista machine.)There is no need for
such a POS on a computer, IMO.

Otherwise, thanks for sharing.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

<pixturesk@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:be75b70b-5a0b-40ff-ae70-de24b0806e64@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 29, 9:20 pm, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
>> Have we had a good discussion of what anti-virus and other anti-malware
>> products still work on Win9x systems, lately? I know Avast! works well,
>> and
>> perhaps an earlier version of AVG (but what about Updates?)
>>
>> Then there's David's Multi-AV, and F-Prot for DOS...
>>
>> Any others?
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/Userhttp://grystmill.com
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> messagenews:O6t45fk2IHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>> > Ditto.
>>
>> > Dan wrote:
>> >> I was just looking over your website and the security article fails to
>> >> load.
>> >> Did you temporarily remove it?
>>
>> >>http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>>
>> >> Mozilla Firefox and Internet Explorer give me the message that this
>> >> page
>> >> cannot be found.
>
> The following is my setup for Win98SE: Avast, Super AntiSpyware Free,
> Spyware Blaster, Sygate Version 5.5 2710, HiJack This, CCleaner. I
> regularly go to the highly reliable "grc.com" to check the quality of
> my protection by running their "Shields Up" tests (file sharing +
> common ports). With this configuration, my computer reports a perfect
> "stealth" result, non-existent on the internet.
>

 

[Dan]

Thanks for reminding me of that Robear. I appreciate it.

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> AVG is ending support for Win9x in August 2008.
>
> Support for AVG v7.5 in any Windows version ends in December 2008.
> ~~
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>
>
> Dan wrote:
> > Apparently, AVG is still supporting version 7.5 of its anti-virus program
> > which works well...
>

 

[Dan]

Thank PCR.

"PCR" wrote:

> Dan wrote:
> | Apparently, AVG is still supporting version 7.5 of its anti-virus
> | program which works well. Avast works well as well but in my opinion
> | is almost too concerned about security which can be good and bad. It
> | can help keep users safer but also raise false alarms like the one
> | about Yahoo.com being infected, a false positive about a file on my
> | dad's computer, prevent certain Microsoft tools like the client that
> | Microsoft provided me from working to
>
> It is easy & painless to go to avast!'s Settings, Exclusion, screen &
> enter the name of the false positive. I have "C:\Program
> Files\RioPort\Audio Manager\SetupMDM.exe" in there, myself!
>
> (To know whether a file is a false positive, send it to a site such
> as...
> http://virusscan.jotti.org/
> ...., & it will be scanned by a ton of scanners.)
>
> | Please steer clear of AVG version 8 for any computer because at least
> | the free version has known issues and will of course not run on 98.
> | In regards, to firewalls you want a multi-layered safety and security
> | approach to keeping 98 Second Edition safe on the Internet these
> | days. I would suggest a router that has built in firewall
> | capabilities and please don't use the default settings and change the
> | authentication password to a complex password. Microsoft has a tool
> | to help users make strong passwords. It is located at
> |
> | http://www.microsoft.com/protect/yourself/password/checker.mspx
> |
> | In addition, a wired connection is always more secure than a wireless
> | connection. Remember, that Microsoft will no longer provide security
> | updates for Windows 98 Second Edition so users must use other
> | software to make 98 and 98 SE more secure on the Internet. I like
> | Mozilla Firefox and version 2.0.x is still supported with 98.
> | Eventually, Mozilla will retire version 2 of Firefox and version 3 of
> | Firefox does not support Windows 98. Opera has its fans but I do not
> | care much for it and its user base is too small currently to have too
> | many hackers working on breaking into the Opera web browser. The
> | Opera web browser is an alternative especially if Mozilla
> | discontinues support of Mozilla Firefox 2.0.x and in doing so no
> | longer provides support for Windows 98. As far as software firewalls
> | are concerned I do not have a good suggestion of which one is best
> | with Windows 98 and/or 98SE Edition.
> |
> | I like the XP Professional firewall but there you do have to watch if
> | you allow any exceptions. I am giving Windows Live Care a trial
> | period on the XP Professional side of my machine to see how I like it.
> |
> |
> | "Ingeborg" wrote:
> |
> |> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> |>
> |> > Might as well include firewalls in the discussion. So far I have
> |> > Sygate, ZA, Tiny (the old version), Kerio (old version)... Anything
> |> > else?
> |> >
> |>
> |> Agnitum Outpost Free
> |> <http://www.agnitum.com/products/outpostfree/index.php>
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
>
>

 

[Dan]

It sounds like enough people still use Windows 98 (or 98SE) to make it
worthwhile for there to be some support left. Thanks for the information,
MEB.

"MEB" wrote:

>
> In news:%23BkDE%23k2IHA.416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl at ,
> Gary S. Terhune contemplated and posted:
> | Have we had a good discussion of what anti-virus and other
> | anti-malware products still work on Win9x systems, lately? I know
> | Avast! works well, and perhaps an earlier version of AVG (but what
> | about Updates?)
> |
> | Then there's David's Multi-AV, and F-Prot for DOS...
> |
> | Any others?
>
> Been recently looking myself to update my page, here's what I have so far
> for Anti-Virus products:
>
> http://www.nod32uk.com/products/win9x.php - NOD32 for Windows 95/98/ME
> {thought they had dropped support}
>
> UNTESTED Anti-Virus
> http://www.pspl.com/products/w95.htm - Protector Plus 2008 - 30 day eval.
> http://www.srnmicro.com/products/win9xpage.htm - Solo Anti-Virus - also DOS
> AV available
> http://www.sophos.com/products/small-business/system-requirements.html -
> Sophos AV
> http://www.quickheal.co.in/products.asp - Quick Heal AntiVirus Plus 2008
> Desktop Price:
> $30/Year
> http://www.fireav.com/products/win95page.htm - FIRE ANTI-VIRUS KIT FOR
> WINDOWS 95, 98 & ME
>
> BitDefender sent out notice that they had re-done [fixed] the program, but I
> haven't tested the new version.
> http://www.bitdefender.com
>
> Several new firewall programs [and Anti-V, SpyWare] available on various
> shareware sites claiming 98 support
>
>
> |
> |
> | "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> | news:O6t45fk2IHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> |> Ditto.
> |>
> |> Dan wrote:
> |>> I was just looking over your website and the security article fails
> |>> to load.
> |>> Did you temporarily remove it?
> |>>
> |>> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
> |>>
> |>> Mozilla Firefox and Internet Explorer give me the message that this
> |>> page cannot be found.
>
> --
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
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