Adobe SUCKS

[dadiOH]

oldie wrote:
>> It's really pretty simple...
>>
>> 1. Install Foxit
>> 2. Set Foxit as default PDF reader
>> 3. Click on a PDF
>> 4. Read PDF
>>
>> --
>>
>> dadiOH
>
> You make it seem sooooooo simple dadiOH,, but what about the
> fact that I cant down load the damn file in the first place?
> Anyway,, I am back at the computer and downloading Foxit as I type,

You can't d/l it but are d/l it as you type? OK, you confused me.

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[Dan]

From oldie:

"Gary,, I did download the Adobe you sent me to, and I have it sitting
in a folder.
Thing is, while I was downloading it friday, I also read the post from
RJK, and havent yet
executed it.. plus this is my first time back at my own pc. "

I wonder how oldie can put any faith in what RJK has to say. I agree with
your assessment of the situation, Gary. Anyway, I am probably being
offensive to RJK but if it is the same RJK as in the past then I certainly
would not put much if any stock in what RJK has to say.

I really like your updated website now, Gary S. Terhune. It is so awesome.
Anyway, my one suggestion is about Adaware SE that I do not care for it
because it ended up trashing a system once when I ran it to correct things
and because of too many false positives in my workings with it and on my
dad's computer and his name is Ivan. Thanks again Gary for the updated site.

"AdAware SE is no longer being supported, but some have noted that if you
can obtain the application and get its last definitions update, it will at
least catch things that other apps might not." From Gary S. Terhune's
Security article

I would remove this or at least put a disclaimer about the problem(s) with
false positives with Adaware SE and that is just my two cents for what it is
worth.

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"Gary S. Terhune" wrote: (in response to oldie)

> The more I read of your stuff, the more I don't care. Goodbye.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> "oldie" <only@onefootin.com> wrote in message
> news:e6vA9wx6IHA.4204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > To all, (and thanks) forgive my non-reply,, forgot about a w/end away
> > from computer.
> >
> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> > news:OSbewTE6IHA.1428@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> 1. Try this: http://grystmill.com/shared/AdbeRdr60_enu_full.exe For some
> >> reason, my site is insisting on proper case for the letters. Not supposed
> >> to
> >> do that. (But after some of the BS my host has been pulling lately, I
> >> figure
> >> I have to change hosts, anyway.)
> >
> > Gary,, I did download the Adobe you sent me to, and I have it sitting
> > in a folder.
> > Thing is, while I was downloading it friday, I also read the post from
> > RJK, and havent yet
> > executed it.. plus this is my first time back at my own pc.
> >>
> >> 1A. You didn't try FoxIt?
> >
> > No, not yet, but will be heading there directly after I post this...
> > especially after reading
> > other posts on the subject it does sound like Fox is the way to go,,
> > hope so, because
> > I am treading water at this stage. (yet still only trying to get a
> > simple document.)
> >
> >>
> >> 2. When downloading a PDF, DO NOT just click on it. Right-click it and
> >> "Save
> >> Target As", then save it to your Desktop (or wherever.)
> >
> > That is the crux of the problem, as Adobe goes into 'Adobe-mode' when I
> > try and download
> > the document,, it just wants me to download its newer version, knowing
> > full well I am using
> > windows 98,, then it makes my computer freeze during download.
> >
> > The Adobe PDF
> >> plug-in for browsers is horrible on older machines and always has been.
> >> In
> >> fact, I used to (and sometimes still do) turn that feature off (forget
> >> where
> >> the switch is, though) so that when I click on a PDF download link, it
> >> acts
> >> like an EXE or other download, asking to be saved, etc. Once it's
> >> downloaded, then I open it.
> >>
> >> 3. As for you specific download, did you already have some form of Adobe
> >> Reader installed when you tried it, so that it was trying to D/L and open
> >> in
> >> the browser at the same time?
> >
> > Not sure what you mean here. Yes, I do have a version of Adobe, 5.0 I
> > think.
> > It has always opened pdf's prior,, but it sure doesnt want me to get
> > that users
> > manual. (stupid bluddy Adobe)
> >
> > Or are you on dial-up or something?
> >
> > Yes, I am on dial up, as I mentioned before. (and the place you directed
> > me to was for
> > a 16MB download,, I did it friday night then went to bed.)
> >
> > In any
> >> case, the download link for the PDF worked fine for me, and using the
> >> instructions I gave you, it should work fine for you. I'm not in the
> >> habit
> >> of doing things for other people that they aren't perfectly capable of
> >> learning how to do for themselves. Try again, following my instructions,
> >> and
> >> then if you still can't get it, I'll see what I can do for you, though
> >> I'm a
> >> bit harried today.
> >
> > Yes, I followed your instructions,, as odd as they seem. One minute
> > you are telling
> > me to download Adobe (16MB) and then you are telling me to get Fox?
> > I guess I am a little confused, but after the post I read from RJK, I am
> > also a bit wary. I
> > find it hard to believe I have to go through all of this drama/trauma just
> > for an instruction sheet,
> > would be easier to open a chinese fortune cookie and read whats inside.
> >
> > Thanks anyhow.
> > (Adobe Sucks!)
> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> http://grystmill.com
> >>
> >> "oldie" <only@onefootin.com> wrote in message
> >> news:%23RyHElB6IHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> >
> >> >> Feel better now?
> >> >
> >> > No, havent achieved anything yet,,, and your link to grystmill comes
> >> > up
> >> > with error:: 'couldnt
> >> > connect to host'.
> >> >
> >> >> Which version would you like. I've got pretty much all of them. Here's
> >> >> the
> >> >> latest to work on Win98.
> >> >> http://grystmill/shared/adbeRdr60_enu_full.exe
> >> >>
> >> >> Or there's FoxIt.
> >> >> http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/rd_intro.php
> >> >
> >> > This place is like an 'information giving pool',, rather than just
> >> > give the product, they
> >> > insist on information information information,, all concerning the
> >> > downloader..... in other words,
> >> > the person wishing to download.
> >> > Still not happy.
> >> >
> >> > Maybe something got lost in translating my post..... I went to the
> >> > place
> >> > where the manual was that
> >> > my friend needed, then clicked on download, but a half an hour passed
> >> > while my 'dun' meter was still
> >> > as active as two bunnies in a field, then it bloody froze up on me.
> >> > My
> >> > next step was to go to
> >> > Adobe, but only to find that they couldnt give two hoots about a
> >> > consumer,, but rather gave two
> >> > hoots about the operating system a consumer was using..... I am
> >> > gathering this is to do with
> >> > big-business and some sort of underhanded agreements made between ceo's
> >> > of
> >> > companies forcing the
> >> > average joe to purchase later versions of microsoft windows.
> >> > grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
> >> > Why do these peopel care what operating system I use? Isnt
> >> > advertiseing
> >> > their primary objective?
> >> > By cutting me off, they lose my eyes veiwing their products......
> >> > and lets face it, all I
> >> > wanted was a simple piece of paper outlining how to set up a
> >> > 'set-top-box'
> >> > for my friends
> >> > television. I have no idea why people even consider using Adobe,,,
> >> > Microsoft word is so much
> >> > better and so much easier and so well known,,,, why didnt the manual
> >> > come
> >> > in dot.doc format,,
> >> > something we All understand.
> >> >
> >> > Hey, if you really want to do us a favour and help, then can you
> >> > download
> >> > the bluddy thing so I can
> >> > fetch it from you? It is the manual for a 'HVBT-1800' The
> >> > brand
> >> > name is 'OLIN'. the
> >> > place to download it is " http://olinstyle.com/support.php "
> >> > Screen shot attached.
> >> > And if you can download it, can you get it in .DOC format, please. I
> >> > say this because it seems
> >> > obvious that my Adobe Reader (cough cough) may not even be able to read
> >> > some simple text or maybe
> >> > jpg's ..... if they were kind enough to supply them to assist a user
> >> > without a manual.)
> >> >
> >> > Okay,,,, NOW I feel better. (still despise Adobe, and also
> >> > wonder why the world endeared
> >> > itself to them,, when WORD itself is a powerful program and understood
> >> > by
> >> > most.... maybe I am
> >> > just a Homer.)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>

 

[J. P. Gilliver]

oldie wrote:
[]
> Yes, I followed your instructions,, as odd as they seem. One
> minute you are telling
> me to download Adobe (16MB) and then you are telling me to get Fox?
> I guess I am a little confused, but after the post I read from RJK, I
> am also a bit wary. I
> find it hard to believe I have to go through all of this drama/trauma
> just for an instruction sheet, would be easier to open a chinese
> fortune cookie and read whats inside.
[]
They are not telling you to download Adobe (at least most of them aren't).
they are telling you to download the .pdf file you are trying to read - the
manual for a PVR or something, wasn't it? - rather than trying to read it
from inside your browser, and thern open it, from Windows Explorer or
similar. Depending on which you've installed most recently - Adobe or
Foxit - it will open in one of these if it's Adobe, it is more likely to
say something like "there is a new version, do you want to get it", or
possibly even "this file was created with a newer version than me, some
things won't display right, do you want to get the new one" - but (AFAIK)
you can still say no. (Foxit tends to be less bother, and still renders most
of what's in most .pdf files. A PVR manual isn't likely to have anything
fancy in it anyway - might even just be scanned.)
--
J. P. Gilliver | Tel. +44 1634 203298

 

[Dan]

J.P. -- thanks for your input. I wonder if oldie is now AWOL in a sense.
<grin>

"J. P. Gilliver" wrote:

> oldie wrote:
> []
> > Yes, I followed your instructions,, as odd as they seem. One
> > minute you are telling
> > me to download Adobe (16MB) and then you are telling me to get Fox?
> > I guess I am a little confused, but after the post I read from RJK, I
> > am also a bit wary. I
> > find it hard to believe I have to go through all of this drama/trauma
> > just for an instruction sheet, would be easier to open a chinese
> > fortune cookie and read whats inside.
> []
> They are not telling you to download Adobe (at least most of them aren't).
> they are telling you to download the .pdf file you are trying to read - the
> manual for a PVR or something, wasn't it? - rather than trying to read it
> from inside your browser, and thern open it, from Windows Explorer or
> similar. Depending on which you've installed most recently - Adobe or
> Foxit - it will open in one of these if it's Adobe, it is more likely to
> say something like "there is a new version, do you want to get it", or
> possibly even "this file was created with a newer version than me, some
> things won't display right, do you want to get the new one" - but (AFAIK)
> you can still say no. (Foxit tends to be less bother, and still renders most
> of what's in most .pdf files. A PVR manual isn't likely to have anything
> fancy in it anyway - might even just be scanned.)
> --
> J. P. Gilliver | Tel. +44 1634 203298
>
>
>

 

[Jesse]

All of Microsoft Sucks, I only used a pc for Access. Fu@k Windows, GO MAC!!!

 

[Dan]

Now who needs the chill pill. LOL!! Fool, it is easier to hack an Apple
computer than a Windows Vista computer and then a Ubuntu Unix/Linux computer
and finally the actual safest and most secure is one with 9x consumer source
code technology (98 Second Edition) for internal safety with NT business
source code (Windows Vista) for external security with open source technology
like Mozilla Firefox (not limited to that of course) that has 256 bit AES
(Advanced Encryption Standard) built within. A user then can use
technologies like SpywareBlaster but of course not limited to that to help
safeguard their machine as well as blocking remote code, reading in plain
text, not opening attachments, etc. As long as you safeguard your activities
and use honey pots along the way then you can benefit everyone. Have a nice
day and think before you post next time as I am slowly learning to do. <smile>