Win 98 se cd

I

Ingeborg

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> Explain please? Where in the world is it not a crime to distribute
> pirated copies of Windows? Have some countries decided that it's
> totally OK, or maybe they split the difference and greatly shortened
> the amount of time copyright applies to software? I've heard that the
> EU has done some changing of EULAs, but are they universally applied
> or do the special rules only apply to MS, or what?
>


I'll not talk about Iran.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_copyright_issues>

The OP asks for an image of a CD. He doesn't mention, but he can have a
license, and have lost or scratched his CD, or even never have had a CD,
because he bought his computer with a licensed windows preinstalled without
CD. In this case (if he has a license), AFAIK it's legal here in Europe to
get a copy of the CD elsewhere. MS doesn't provide W98 CD's anymore, but
that doesn't mean your license is void when you lost your CD.
 
D

Dan

Please no fighting and it is just not worth it --- remember we are talking
about computers aka machines -- smile

"~BD~" wrote:

> Gary - WHY did you post that reply?
>
> Did it make you feel good? Important?
>
> Have you forgotten that you are a representative of those who have been
> granted the MVP status? (But who knows for sure?!!)
>
> @ learningfast15 .................. Do NOT post your name and address here!
>
> Try your friends and/or eBay for a Windows 98 SE Installation CD.
>
> Dave
>
> --
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:O4$SuVEAJHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > Yeah, no problem. Just post your name and mailing address.
> > --
> > Gary S. Terhune
> > MS-MVP Shell/User
> > http://grystmill.com
> >
> > "learningfast15" <learningfast15@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > message news:26E6D29A-307E-46AF-A89B-875A97EDAEEE@microsoft.com...
> >>I was wondering how i could find a copy of the Windows 98 SE Installation
> >>CD
> >> for free. Can one of you send me a disc image or tell me a website or
> >> somthing. thanks.

> >
> >
> >

>
>
>
 
D

Dan

LOL, I love your replies Glen.

"glee" wrote:

> Bad Gary, no cookies for you! -)
> You forgot to tell "learningfast15" to also include his SSN and bank account and
> routing number......
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
> http://dts-l.net/
> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:O4$SuVEAJHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > Yeah, no problem. Just post your name and mailing address.
> > --
> > Gary S. Terhune
> > MS-MVP Shell/User
> > http://grystmill.com
> >
> > "learningfast15" <learningfast15@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:26E6D29A-307E-46AF-A89B-875A97EDAEEE@microsoft.com...
> >>I was wondering how i could find a copy of the Windows 98 SE Installation CD
> >> for free. Can one of you send me a disc image or tell me a website or
> >> somthing. thanks.

> >
> >

>
>
 
D

Dan

Id Theft City -- here we go ------------------------- zoooooooooom

"Buffalo" wrote:

>
>
> Buffalo wrote:
> > glee wrote:
> >> Bad Gary, no cookies for you! -)
> >> You forgot to tell "learningfast15" to also include his SSN and bank
> >> account and routing number......
> >>

> > You don't really need to post your routing number, you're SSN will
> > suffice.

> Correction:
> Should have been 'your SSN'. Besides, if someone were dumb enough to do it
> they would probably wouldn't have recognized the spelling error either.
>
>
>
 
D

Dan

Dang, is it beat up on Gary day or something -- he is not all bad --- give
him a break because he really knows his stuff and is very helpful to me and
others -- the Everest tool he posted I already downloaded and am enjoying
within 98 Second Edition



"DaffyD®" wrote:

> Ah, you have a background in covert Intelius gathering...perhaps you once
> worked for the Central Intelius Agency? Should I belabor the pun even more?
> --
> { : [|]=( DaffyD®
>
> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:uscP%23oKAJHA.3804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > Nope. Name and Address are all I need. I can easily obtain the rest on my
> > own.
> >
> > --
> > Gary S. Terhune
> > MS-MVP Shell/User
> > http://grystmill.com
> >
> > "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
> > news:umEgzpHAJHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > > Bad Gary, no cookies for you! -)
> > > You forgot to tell "learningfast15" to also include his SSN and bank
> > > account and routing number......
> > > --
> > > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
> > > http://dts-l.net/
> > > http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
> > >
> > >
> > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> > > news:O4$SuVEAJHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > >> Yeah, no problem. Just post your name and mailing address.
> > >> --
> > >> Gary S. Terhune
> > >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> > >> http://grystmill.com
> > >>
> > >> "learningfast15" <learningfast15@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> > >> message news:26E6D29A-307E-46AF-A89B-875A97EDAEEE@microsoft.com...
> > >>>I was wondering how i could find a copy of the Windows 98 SE

> Installation
> > >>>CD
> > >>> for free. Can one of you send me a disc image or tell me a website or
> > >>> somthing. thanks.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >

> >
> >

>
>
>
 
D

Dan

So, how close are we really now to George Orwell's 1984 in 2008 with security
video cameras around, digital passports, new driver licenses, etc. How much
freedom will we give up as Americans for security or will we trust in a
higher power for true internal safety rather than a fascade of external
security. As you can see, both are needed and important but the true
strength and rock comes from within and not from without. Riddle this and
Riddle that mind you all.

"DaffyD®" wrote:

> Home and cell phone numbers...
>
> "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:umEgzpHAJHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > Bad Gary, no cookies for you! -)
> > You forgot to tell "learningfast15" to also include his SSN and bank

> account and
> > routing number......
> > --
> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
> > http://dts-l.net/
> > http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
> >
> >
> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> > news:O4$SuVEAJHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > > Yeah, no problem. Just post your name and mailing address.
> > > --
> > > Gary S. Terhune
> > > MS-MVP Shell/User
> > > http://grystmill.com
> > >
> > > "learningfast15" <learningfast15@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> message
> > > news:26E6D29A-307E-46AF-A89B-875A97EDAEEE@microsoft.com...
> > >>I was wondering how i could find a copy of the Windows 98 SE

> Installation CD
> > >> for free. Can one of you send me a disc image or tell me a website or
> > >> somthing. thanks.
> > >
> > >

> >

>
>
>
 
D

Dan

Exactly, shall we take a guess that Slow Learner is just say 15 years old ---
hence his due --- to the outburst and post <I guess> nickname. Sincerity and
Flattery do indeed help in this day and age as in most days and ages. <grin>

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> Look, SlowLearner15... Let me spell it out clear as I can: What you are
> doing is soliciting a crime in public, on permanent public record, and in
> the immediate presence of the corporate person upon whom you intend to
> perpetrate said crime.
>
> Go buy a copy for $40 on EBay. Or go steal one. But quit being a total
> dunce.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> "learningfast15" <learningfast15@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B58ABA40-6DF8-4EA1-A668-89A9FCAE8282@microsoft.com...
> >
> >
> > "learningfast15" wrote:
> >
> >> I was wondering how i could find a copy of the Windows 98 SE Installation
> >> CD
> >> for free. Can one of you send me a disc image or tell me a website or
> >> somthing. thanks.

> >
> >
> > guys, i don't want you to send me a physical copy, idiots!!!! i just want
> > to know where i can obtain one for free or if any of you "helpful
> > professionals" could come up with the knowledge of creating a digital disc
> > image for me to burn. if u can, ill give you my email.

>
>
>
 
D

Dan

Why doesn't the op just contact Microsoft -- they have always been helpful to
me and still are very helpful to me although I have points of disagreement
with them and agree with Chris Quirke's mvp's stance on the issue of things
to do with external security and internal safety. Heck, if the op wants a
free os then why not just go with Ubuntu Linux and Mozilla Firefox which are
both free and legal. In addition, perhaps the op has some friends who no
longer use Windows 98 Second Edition and have a cd that they will give to him
and transfer the license and cd to him and thus provide op with needed
solution. <him is just a guess and if it is a her then kindly respond so we
can all clear matters up and not be under a Blue Cloud of Confusion>

"Ingeborg" wrote:

> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>
> > Explain please? Where in the world is it not a crime to distribute
> > pirated copies of Windows? Have some countries decided that it's
> > totally OK, or maybe they split the difference and greatly shortened
> > the amount of time copyright applies to software? I've heard that the
> > EU has done some changing of EULAs, but are they universally applied
> > or do the special rules only apply to MS, or what?
> >

>
> I'll not talk about Iran.
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_copyright_issues>
>
> The OP asks for an image of a CD. He doesn't mention, but he can have a
> license, and have lost or scratched his CD, or even never have had a CD,
> because he bought his computer with a licensed windows preinstalled without
> CD. In this case (if he has a license), AFAIK it's legal here in Europe to
> get a copy of the CD elsewhere. MS doesn't provide W98 CD's anymore, but
> that doesn't mean your license is void when you lost your CD.
>
>
>
 
D

Dan

Exactly, Ebay last time I checked was around $75 up from $50 for a full
retail copy of Windows 98 Second Edition. I guess 98 Second Edition is
becomming popular again what with Dan K's research and DNS Pollution
everywhere.

"Lil' Dave" wrote:

> "learningfast15" <learningfast15@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:26E6D29A-307E-46AF-A89B-875A97EDAEEE@microsoft.com...
> >I was wondering how i could find a copy of the Windows 98 SE Installation
> >CD
> > for free. Can one of you send me a disc image or tell me a website or
> > somthing. thanks.

>
> You can make your own free copy when you buy the original. (Only make one
> copy). Prices seem to start from 46 for OEM full version, and 89 for retail
> full version. That's U.S. dollars. Ebay may be less expensive.
>
> Only the person in possession of the license for, and in possession of the
> original installation CD, may make a backup copy of that original. That is,
> one copy only. You may also make an ISO copy, as long as only one physical
> CD backup copy of the original exists at any one time.
> --
> Dave
>
>
>
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

But it *is* in contravention of the EULA, even in Europe, to make unlawful
copies and distribute them. I didn't say the OP would necessarily be
committing a crime by using such a copy. My point was that the legitimate
owner would be doing so by providing the copy. The act of distributing an
illicit copy of the software is called "piracy". I doubt even Europe managed
to ditch that part of the EULA.

That is the crime that I was speaking of, which crime the OP is
*soliciting*, which, at least in the US, is itself a crime.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Ingeborg" <a@b.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns9AFF71CDE2AB1abinvalid@217.21.244.90...
> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>
>> Explain please? Where in the world is it not a crime to distribute
>> pirated copies of Windows? Have some countries decided that it's
>> totally OK, or maybe they split the difference and greatly shortened
>> the amount of time copyright applies to software? I've heard that the
>> EU has done some changing of EULAs, but are they universally applied
>> or do the special rules only apply to MS, or what?
>>

>
> I'll not talk about Iran.
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_copyright_issues>
>
> The OP asks for an image of a CD. He doesn't mention, but he can have a
> license, and have lost or scratched his CD, or even never have had a CD,
> because he bought his computer with a licensed windows preinstalled
> without
> CD. In this case (if he has a license), AFAIK it's legal here in Europe to
> get a copy of the CD elsewhere. MS doesn't provide W98 CD's anymore, but
> that doesn't mean your license is void when you lost your CD.
>
>
 
B

Buffalo

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> But it *is* in contravention of the EULA, even in Europe, to make
> unlawful copies and distribute them. I didn't say the OP would
> necessarily be committing a crime by using such a copy. My point was
> that the legitimate owner would be doing so by providing the copy.
> The act of distributing an illicit copy of the software is called
> "piracy". I doubt even Europe managed to ditch that part of the EULA.
>
> That is the crime that I was speaking of, which crime the OP is
> *soliciting*, which, at least in the US, is itself a crime.


I thought that anyone could borrow or get a copy of a Win98 cd from anyone
as long as they their own legal product key.
Is that not correct? Isn't it the product key that is covered by EULA?
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

Nope. Regardless of "accepted practices" the EULA generally limits what a
person may make copies of *for_their_own_use* and how many, as backups and
not for any other purpose. Depending on the version of the installation
media, it may be used to install multiple machines under some Volume
Licensing or Multiple Activation licensing scheme. And no, you aren't just
buying a license with the media to fulfill it, you are buying the entire
package, a copy of the software and license, as a unit, and that unit is
what's covered by the EULA.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Buffalo" <Eric@nada.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:xMednZAGGdpvgTHVnZ2dnUVZ_rHinZ2d@comcast.com...
>
>
> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> But it *is* in contravention of the EULA, even in Europe, to make
>> unlawful copies and distribute them. I didn't say the OP would
>> necessarily be committing a crime by using such a copy. My point was
>> that the legitimate owner would be doing so by providing the copy.
>> The act of distributing an illicit copy of the software is called
>> "piracy". I doubt even Europe managed to ditch that part of the EULA.
>>
>> That is the crime that I was speaking of, which crime the OP is
>> *soliciting*, which, at least in the US, is itself a crime.

>
> I thought that anyone could borrow or get a copy of a Win98 cd from anyone
> as long as they their own legal product key.
> Is that not correct? Isn't it the product key that is covered by EULA?
>
>
 
B

~BD~

Dan. Hi! :)

Gary should know better than to be sarcastic in this environment. He is no
doubt, like me, getting a bit 'long in the tooth' and may sometimes forget
that many folk who come here (to what they *percieve* to be Microsoft help
sites) do so when they have (to them) a major disaster happening in their
lives.

From reading many posts, in many groups, I'm quite sure that most 'new'
posters will have little or no clue as to how they 'should' conduct their
enquiries.

Experienced folk (MVP's in particular) should not, in my opinion, take
advantage of the ignorance of those posting for the first time.

I'm all for a little humour ......... but not at the expense of the young
and/or naive.

FWIW

Dave

--
"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:85CE35AE-ACC4-4026-AAFD-CEC2AD98B5FF@microsoft.com...
> Please no fighting and it is just not worth it --- remember we are talking
> about computers aka machines -- smile
>
> "~BD~" wrote:
>
>> Gary - WHY did you post that reply?
>>
>> Did it make you feel good? Important?
>>
>> Have you forgotten that you are a representative of those who have been
>> granted the MVP status? (But who knows for sure?!!)
>>
>> @ learningfast15 .................. Do NOT post your name and address
>> here!
>>
>> Try your friends and/or eBay for a Windows 98 SE Installation CD.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> news:O4$SuVEAJHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> > Yeah, no problem. Just post your name and mailing address.
>> > --
>> > Gary S. Terhune
>> > MS-MVP Shell/User
>> > http://grystmill.com
>> >
>> > "learningfast15" <learningfast15@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> > message news:26E6D29A-307E-46AF-A89B-875A97EDAEEE@microsoft.com...
>> >>I was wondering how i could find a copy of the Windows 98 SE
>> >>Installation
>> >>CD
>> >> for free. Can one of you send me a disc image or tell me a website or
>> >> somthing. thanks.
>> >
>> >
>> >

>>
>>
>>

>
 
S

someone@someplace.com

On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:53:41 +0100, "~BD~" <~BD~@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>Dan. Hi! :)
>
>Gary should know better than to be sarcastic in this environment. He is no
>doubt, like me, getting a bit 'long in the tooth' and may sometimes forget
>that many folk who come here (to what they *percieve* to be Microsoft help
>sites) do so when they have (to them) a major disaster happening in their
>lives.


Gary is what they call a cyber bully. He delights in getting people
pissed off and does so repeatedly in this and other newsgroups. He
apparently achieves some sort of orgasm from attacking others online.
Even if he does know the answer, before he replies, he will belittle
the person he is responding to, to make himself look like a "big man".
In real life he's most likely a miserable loser who has no friends and
no life, so he trolls the newsgroups, as a cyber bully, to make
himself feel important.

For more information about Cyber Bullies, go here:
http://stopbullyingnow.hrsa.gov/adult/indexAdult.asp?Area=cyberbullying

The best advice to everyone, is to add Gary S. Terhune to their
killfile, and after enough people ignore him, he'll vanish.

I'd guess that most of the "adults" on this group have already
killfiled him.
 
B

Buffalo

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> Nope. Regardless of "accepted practices" the EULA generally limits
> what a person may make copies of *for_their_own_use* and how many, as
> backups and not for any other purpose. Depending on the version of
> the installation media, it may be used to install multiple machines
> under some Volume Licensing or Multiple Activation licensing scheme.
> And no, you aren't just buying a license with the media to fulfill
> it, you are buying the entire package, a copy of the software and
> license, as a unit, and that unit is what's covered by the EULA.
>
>
> "Buffalo" <Eric@nada.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:xMednZAGGdpvgTHVnZ2dnUVZ_rHinZ2d@comcast.com...


Learn something new everyday.
Thanks
PS: I don't think anyone would bother you if you borrowed a Win98Se cd from
another person and used your own key, but I may be wrong. I really can't
understand why making as many Win98SE cds as you want is not allowed as long
as the 'key' is not provided. Perhaps the reason is that there are 'key'
generators out there.
Again, thanks for the clarification.
 
B

Buffalo

someone@someplace.com wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:53:41 +0100, "~BD~" <~BD~@nospam.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> Dan. Hi! :)
>>
>> Gary should know better than to be sarcastic in this environment. He
>> is no doubt, like me, getting a bit 'long in the tooth' and may
>> sometimes forget that many folk who come here (to what they
>> *percieve* to be Microsoft help sites) do so when they have (to
>> them) a major disaster happening in their lives.

>
> Gary is what they call a cyber bully. He delights in getting people
> pissed off and does so repeatedly in this and other newsgroups. He
> apparently achieves some sort of orgasm from attacking others online.
> Even if he does know the answer, before he replies, he will belittle
> the person he is responding to, to make himself look like a "big man".
> In real life he's most likely a miserable loser who has no friends and
> no life, so he trolls the newsgroups, as a cyber bully, to make
> himself feel important.
>
> For more information about Cyber Bullies, go here:
> http://stopbullyingnow.hrsa.gov/adult/indexAdult.asp?Area=cyberbullying
>
> The best advice to everyone, is to add Gary S. Terhune to their
> killfile, and after enough people ignore him, he'll vanish.
>
> I'd guess that most of the "adults" on this group have already
> killfiled him.


I doubt that last statement completely. Go peddle your BS elsewhere.
Gary (he or she) has been more sarcastic this year than in the past, but so
be it. Most still still learn from Terhune.
Buffalo
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

This, from a coward with no name.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

<someone@someplace.com> wrote in message
news:a2ooa4tqbfebflpnfcbju12hp8lg9bb5vs@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:53:41 +0100, "~BD~" <~BD~@nospam.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>Dan. Hi! :)
>>
>>Gary should know better than to be sarcastic in this environment. He is no
>>doubt, like me, getting a bit 'long in the tooth' and may sometimes forget
>>that many folk who come here (to what they *percieve* to be Microsoft help
>>sites) do so when they have (to them) a major disaster happening in their
>>lives.

>
> Gary is what they call a cyber bully. He delights in getting people
> pissed off and does so repeatedly in this and other newsgroups. He
> apparently achieves some sort of orgasm from attacking others online.
> Even if he does know the answer, before he replies, he will belittle
> the person he is responding to, to make himself look like a "big man".
> In real life he's most likely a miserable loser who has no friends and
> no life, so he trolls the newsgroups, as a cyber bully, to make
> himself feel important.
>
> For more information about Cyber Bullies, go here:
> http://stopbullyingnow.hrsa.gov/adult/indexAdult.asp?Area=cyberbullying
>
> The best advice to everyone, is to add Gary S. Terhune to their
> killfile, and after enough people ignore him, he'll vanish.
>
> I'd guess that most of the "adults" on this group have already
> killfiled him.
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

The uneducated OP learned that this is not the place to solicit piracy.
That's all I care about. And maybe to think things through before posting
such a stupid request. If he didn't know it was a stupid request, he needed
to be taught so.

Again, there is absolutely nothing wrong with sarcasm when it gets the point
across. It's not as if I insulted him (except, I suppose, by renaming him,
but even that was in the same spirit -- get his attention.) We're getting a
LOT of babies using Win98 these days, and they grew up, for the most part,
learning lots of illegal computer activities and think nothing of it. If
he's going to be stupid from the outset, he's going to get whacked with the
cluestick. Maybe it will keep him out of worse situations in the future,
when he grows up a few ore years and see all his friends doing other,
equally safe but equally illegal things. Maybe keep him out of jail..

Lastly, if you'll read the entire thread, a lot was explained about piracy
and if the OP actually bothered to read any of the replies, he's learned.
About piracy, about sarcasm about humor, you name it. Otherwise, that's his
loss.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"~BD~" <~BD~@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:euAgSStAJHA.1628@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Dan. Hi! :)
>
> Gary should know better than to be sarcastic in this environment. He is no
> doubt, like me, getting a bit 'long in the tooth' and may sometimes forget
> that many folk who come here (to what they *percieve* to be Microsoft help
> sites) do so when they have (to them) a major disaster happening in their
> lives.
>
> From reading many posts, in many groups, I'm quite sure that most 'new'
> posters will have little or no clue as to how they 'should' conduct their
> enquiries.
>
> Experienced folk (MVP's in particular) should not, in my opinion, take
> advantage of the ignorance of those posting for the first time.
>
> I'm all for a little humour ......... but not at the expense of the young
> and/or naive.
>
> FWIW
>
> Dave
>
> --
> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:85CE35AE-ACC4-4026-AAFD-CEC2AD98B5FF@microsoft.com...
>> Please no fighting and it is just not worth it --- remember we are
>> talking
>> about computers aka machines -- smile
>>
>> "~BD~" wrote:
>>
>>> Gary - WHY did you post that reply?
>>>
>>> Did it make you feel good? Important?
>>>
>>> Have you forgotten that you are a representative of those who have been
>>> granted the MVP status? (But who knows for sure?!!)
>>>
>>> @ learningfast15 .................. Do NOT post your name and address
>>> here!
>>>
>>> Try your friends and/or eBay for a Windows 98 SE Installation CD.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>> news:O4$SuVEAJHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> > Yeah, no problem. Just post your name and mailing address.
>>> > --
>>> > Gary S. Terhune
>>> > MS-MVP Shell/User
>>> > http://grystmill.com
>>> >
>>> > "learningfast15" <learningfast15@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>> > message news:26E6D29A-307E-46AF-A89B-875A97EDAEEE@microsoft.com...
>>> >>I was wondering how i could find a copy of the Windows 98 SE
>>> >>Installation
>>> >>CD
>>> >> for free. Can one of you send me a disc image or tell me a website
>>> >> or
>>> >> somthing. thanks.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>
 
L

Lil' Dave

And what proof does anyone have that I'm the same person normally using this
screen name?. Let alone someone who's never posted here before. Best not
go down that road. Gary, was it?

--
Dave

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:u4vdBBxAJHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> This, from a coward with no name.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> <someone@someplace.com> wrote in message
> news:a2ooa4tqbfebflpnfcbju12hp8lg9bb5vs@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:53:41 +0100, "~BD~" <~BD~@nospam.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Dan. Hi! :)
>>>
>>>Gary should know better than to be sarcastic in this environment. He is
>>>no
>>>doubt, like me, getting a bit 'long in the tooth' and may sometimes
>>>forget
>>>that many folk who come here (to what they *percieve* to be Microsoft
>>>help
>>>sites) do so when they have (to them) a major disaster happening in their
>>>lives.

>>
>> Gary is what they call a cyber bully. He delights in getting people
>> pissed off and does so repeatedly in this and other newsgroups. He
>> apparently achieves some sort of orgasm from attacking others online.
>> Even if he does know the answer, before he replies, he will belittle
>> the person he is responding to, to make himself look like a "big man".
>> In real life he's most likely a miserable loser who has no friends and
>> no life, so he trolls the newsgroups, as a cyber bully, to make
>> himself feel important.
>>
>> For more information about Cyber Bullies, go here:
>> http://stopbullyingnow.hrsa.gov/adult/indexAdult.asp?Area=cyberbullying
>>
>> The best advice to everyone, is to add Gary S. Terhune to their
>> killfile, and after enough people ignore him, he'll vanish.
>>
>> I'd guess that most of the "adults" on this group have already
>> killfiled him.

>
>
 
G

Gary S. Terhune

Nobody does care. We're just talking about technicalities, here. And you
don't need to use your own number, you can use any one that will work.
Microsoft does not keep track of Win98 installations and couldn't care less
about them anymore. However, it *is* illegal, in contravention of the legal
document called the EULA, to "borrow" someone else's disk, or give someone
else a copy. It's a question of personal morals more than anything else. The
fact that you're never likely to face any consequences doesn't make it OK in
any way, shape or form.

Heck, I often recommend borrowing a friend's CD if yours is lost, but only
after making sure you don't already have what you need, and not for a clean
install, only as a source of installation files for installing hardware,
reinstalling components, etc..

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Buffalo" <Eric@nada.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:F4GdnSZ35JBpHTHVnZ2dnUVZ_obinZ2d@comcast.com...
>
>
> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> Nope. Regardless of "accepted practices" the EULA generally limits
>> what a person may make copies of *for_their_own_use* and how many, as
>> backups and not for any other purpose. Depending on the version of
>> the installation media, it may be used to install multiple machines
>> under some Volume Licensing or Multiple Activation licensing scheme.
>> And no, you aren't just buying a license with the media to fulfill
>> it, you are buying the entire package, a copy of the software and
>> license, as a unit, and that unit is what's covered by the EULA.
>>
>>
>> "Buffalo" <Eric@nada.com.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:xMednZAGGdpvgTHVnZ2dnUVZ_rHinZ2d@comcast.com...

>
> Learn something new everyday.
> Thanks
> PS: I don't think anyone would bother you if you borrowed a Win98Se cd
> from
> another person and used your own key, but I may be wrong. I really can't
> understand why making as many Win98SE cds as you want is not allowed as
> long
> as the 'key' is not provided. Perhaps the reason is that there are 'key'
> generators out there.
> Again, thanks for the clarification.
>
>
 
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