Installing Windows 98

[darkrats]

Probably not, but I just typed my reply and then hit Send.

I see others do pretty much the same thing, in a lot of newsgroups, and I
don't understand why it bothers some people. Just scroll down and read the
post. That's what I do. It's not like it takes a day and a half to do this.
Why should the responder have to go and backspace out all the quoted text
before sending his reply?


"98 Guy" <98@Guy.com> wrote in message news:46DC0D73.5697E533@Guy.com...
> Darkrat -
>
> Was it necessary to include 120 lines of quoted text in your
> top-posted reply?

 

[98 Guy]

darkrats wrote:

> > Was it necessary to include 120 lines of quoted text in your
> > top-posted reply?
>
> Probably not, but I just typed my reply and then hit Send.

Too bad. It's lazy, and it's poor composition and style.

> I see others do pretty much the same thing, in a lot of
> newsgroups,

Yes, they're all lazy asses that use the default OE composition style
which is intended for e-mail correspondence - not usenet postings.

> and I don't understand why it bothers some people.

Because it doesn't allow for more creative styles of conversation,
such as the in-line responses that I'm crafting in this post.

> Just scroll down and read the post.

When you include dozens or hundreds of lines of previous messages,
it's not clear what specifically you are responding to. What comment,
opinion, detail, etc.

> Why should the responder have to go and backspace out all the
> quoted text before sending his reply?

If you're not going to respond to any specific statement from the post
you are replying to, then removing all other older material is trivial
and is proper usenet posting style.

 

[Angel]

Hi all,
Sorry I goofed!! I should have said BTW instead of BTY. Just hit the wrong
key. I still do not know why some object to top posting. I PREFER top
posting. Sometimes easier to read. Some others do too. To each his own. Why
get hung up on bottom posting? Nothing better to do?
Angel

"Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
news:%23eHynQa7HHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hi PCR, that's funny!!
> Seriously, most librarians are good people. If he does not have a
> library handy, he should try to find a friend or other place to download
it.
> Just get a new floppy to do it on because the program will erase any item
on
> it. A new floppy is usually good. Some libraries sell them for about 75
> cents. Some libraries insist on you buying the floppy there because they
are
> afraid that you will bring in a virus of some kind. Ours used to be like
> that, I don't know if they still are. There are many places now with
public
> access. Universities and colleges have their own computer rooms with
people
> there that will help you. They are assessable to the public. Anyway, the
> University here in my town does.
> BTY, I signed up for a class this semester. It is a philosophy class
at
> the University. I enjoy the Philosophy classes very, very much.
> Angel
>
> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> news:e$BoKFZ7HHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> > news:OMvYdTX7HHA.2752@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl
> > | Hi Logs,
> > | I have a suggestion. Go to the library and download it on a
> > | computer that has a floppy drive. There may be other places in your
> > | town that has a computer with floppy drive that you can use. Ask
> > | around. Angel
> >
> > It's a good idea-- my only objection being he might run into a library
> > tough with a 12 pound book or a broom wielding witchy librarian wanting
> > her late fee money!
> >
> > | "Logs" <Logs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > | news:7972CCB3-F411-436C-B49A-9C529BAE9FFA@microsoft.com...
> > |> OK i have a problem. The computer that works in my house has only a
> > |> cd drive, and the computer having these problems has a cd drive and
> > |> a floppy drive. So what bootdisc do I get?
> > |>
> > |> "PCR" wrote:
> > |>
> > |> > "Ben Myers" <benjmyers@mindR-e-m-o-v-Espring.com> wrote in message
> > |> > news:uzz8Qxi6HHA.5796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
> > |> > | "Logs" <Logs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > |> > | news:120456E1-285D-4421-912F-A61BF333A573@microsoft.com...
> > |> > |> OK thanks for the help. I was thinking that I would need a boot
> > |> > |> floppy, but don't know much about them. Exactly where can I get
> > |> > |> one, and what type do I need?
> > |> > |
> > |> > | You can get a Windows 98 boot floppy from
> > |> > | http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm
> > |> > |
> > |> > |> I also don't really understand what you mean when you say type
> > |> > |> "edit c:\setuplog.txt", then use the "Page Down" key to scroll
> > |> > |> down to the bottom.
> > |> > |
> > |> > | Start the computer with the boot floppy, select "Start without CD
> > |> > | support", type "edit c:\setuplog.txt", press "Enter", then use
> > |> > | the "Page Down" key to get to the end of the file. Windows setup
> > |> > | creates the file one line at a time, so the last entry is
> > |> > | sometimes useful when something goes wrong. Also, see if the
> > |> > | file mentions
> > |> > | an anti virus check.
> > |> >
> > |> > To that I would add... Ctrl-Alt gets you to Edit's "File" menu,
> > |> > where you may D-Arrow to "Exit". Hit Enter when on Exit. If
> > |> > changes were made, a requestor pops up. Use the TAB key to
> > |> > traverse the buttons on the Exit requestor.
> > |> >
> > |> > |> Also, you might be able to bypass the antivirus problem
> > |> > |> by starting setup with "/ir" switch. I'm really dumb with stuff
> > |> > |> like this and don't know what you're talking about. If you
> > |> > |> could please tell me what to do in step by step so that a
> > |> > |> mechanically challenged person can do it I'd really appreciate
> > |> > |> it. Thank you sooo much fo the help you've given me so far.
> > |> > |
> > |> > | If you are using an ordinary Windows 98 CD, start the computer
> > |> > | with the
> > |> > | boot floppy, select "Start with CD support", then insert the
> > |> > | Windows 98
> > |> > | CD, type "setup /ir" and press "Enter". This sometimes
> > |> > | bypasses the problem caused by boot virus protection.
> > |> > |
> > |> > | Ben
> > |> >
> > |> > --
> > |> > Thanks or Good Luck,
> > |> > There may be humor in this post, and,
> > |> > Naturally, you will not sue,
> > |> > Should things get worse after this,
> > |> > PCR
> > |> > pcrrcp@netzero.net
> >
> > --
> > Thanks or Good Luck,
> > There may be humor in this post, and,
> > Naturally, you will not sue,
> > Should things get worse after this,
> > PCR
> > pcrrcp@netzero.net
> >
> >
>
>

 

[PCR]

"darkrats" <darkrats@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uqyvpPe7HHA.3624@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
| Here's few working links:
|
| Download from MiHD.net:
| http://mihd.net/o3mudh
|
| Download from FileFactory:
| http://www.filefactory.com/file/42fcd4/
|
| Download from MegaUpload:
| http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6TXJCQX5

I agree those sites work, as did the first. HOWEVER, although they all
mention it, I can't find a button to click that works to start an actual
download of "hiren_bootcd_9.1_en.rar"! ???!!!Are you sure you can!!!???

| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:OX$Kl5Y7HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
|> "darkrats" <darkrats@hotmail.com> wrote in message
|> news:enRbn7R7HHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
|> | You need to Google for "Hiren's Boot CD". It does just about
|> | everything.
|>
|> I think I found the site...
|> http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd
|>
|> ..., & it looks like a bunch of good stuff-- but I don't see what to
|> click to download it or its cost!
|>
|> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
|> | news:uNZN%23lN7HHA.4736@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
|> |> "Logs" <Logs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
|> |> news:7972CCB3-F411-436C-B49A-9C529BAE9FFA@microsoft.com
|> |> | OK i have a problem. The computer that works in my house has
|> |> | only a cd drive, and the computer having these problems has a
|> |> | cd drive and a floppy drive. So what bootdisc do I get?
|> |>
|> |> It looks to me you can't do it, then! You need a computer that can
|> |> boot to Windows & has a floppy drive to download & create a
|> |> Startup Diskette from Bootdisk.com, looks like. It might be
|> |> worthwhile to spend the $10.00, though, & take the "Bootable
|> |> Utility CD With 68 Programs For Both DOS And Windows". Does the
|> |> computer with only a CD-ROM have the ability to write to the
|> |> CD-ROM-- or is read-only?
|> |>
|> |> In the meantime... Can you boot to DOS on the machine that has the
|> |> problem? Hold Ctrl as you boot for the Startup Menu-- & select
|> |> "Command Prompt Only". If you can get there, try the EDIT of
|> |> "C:\Setuplog.txt" as previously instructed. I guess Myers wants
|> |> you to spot an error message at the bottom of that file.
|> |>
|> |> | "PCR" wrote:
|> |> |
|> |> |> "Ben Myers" <benjmyers@mindR-e-m-o-v-Espring.com> wrote in
|> |> |> message news:uzz8Qxi6HHA.5796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
|> |> |> | "Logs" <Logs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
|> |> |> | news:120456E1-285D-4421-912F-A61BF333A573@microsoft.com...
|> |> |> |> OK thanks for the help. I was thinking that I would need a
|> |> |> |> boot floppy, but don't know much about them. Exactly where
|> |> |> |> can I get one, and what type do I need?
|> |> |> |
|> |> |> | You can get a Windows 98 boot floppy from
|> |> |> | http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm
|> |> |> |
|> |> |> |> I also don't really understand what you mean when you say
|> |> |> |> type "edit c:\setuplog.txt", then use the "Page Down" key
|> |> |> |> to scroll down to the bottom.
|> |> |> |
|> |> |> | Start the computer with the boot floppy, select "Start
|> |> |> | without CD support", type "edit c:\setuplog.txt", press
|> |> |> | "Enter", then use the "Page Down" key to get to the end of
|> |> |> | the file. Windows setup creates the file one line at a
|> |> |> | time, so the last entry is sometimes useful when something
|> |> |> | goes wrong. Also, see if the file mentions an anti virus
|> |> |> | check.
|> |> |>
|> |> |> To that I would add... Ctrl-Alt gets you to Edit's "File" menu,
|> |> |> where you may D-Arrow to "Exit". Hit Enter when on Exit. If
|> |> |> changes were made, a requestor pops up. Use the TAB key to
|> |> |> traverse the buttons on the Exit requestor.
|> |> |>
|> |> |> |> Also, you might be able to bypass the antivirus problem
|> |> |> |> by starting setup with "/ir" switch. I'm really dumb with
|> |> |> |> stuff like this and don't know what you're talking about.
|> |> |> |> If you could please tell me what to do in step by step so
|> |> |> |> that a mechanically challenged person can do it I'd really
|> |> |> |> appreciate it. Thank you sooo much fo the help you've given
|> |> |> |> me so far.
|> |> |> |
|> |> |> | If you are using an ordinary Windows 98 CD, start the
|> |> |> | computer with the
|> |> |> | boot floppy, select "Start with CD support", then insert the
|> |> |> | Windows 98
|> |> |> | CD, type "setup /ir" and press "Enter". This sometimes
|> |> |> | bypasses the problem caused by boot virus protection.
|> |> |> |
|> |> |> | Ben

 

[PCR]

"Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
news:%23eHynQa7HHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
| Hi PCR, that's funny!!
| Seriously, most librarians are good people. If he does not have a
| library handy, he should try to find a friend or other place to
| download it. Just get a new floppy to do it on because the program
| will erase any item on it. A new floppy is usually good. Some
| libraries sell them for about 75 cents. Some libraries insist on you
| buying the floppy there because they are afraid that you will bring
| in a virus of some kind. Ours used to be like that, I don't know if
| they still are. There are many places now with public access.
| Universities and colleges have their own computer rooms with people
| there that will help you. They are assessable to the public. Anyway,
| the University here in my town does. BTY, I signed up for a class
| this semester. It is a philosophy class at
| the University. I enjoy the Philosophy classes very, very much.
| Angel

All right-- but let it be on your head, if he is clobbered or turned
into a warthog! I was trying to avoid that!

| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:e$BoKFZ7HHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
|> "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
|> news:OMvYdTX7HHA.2752@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl
|> | Hi Logs,
|> | I have a suggestion. Go to the library and download it on a
|> | computer that has a floppy drive. There may be other places in your
|> | town that has a computer with floppy drive that you can use. Ask
|> | around. Angel
|>
|> It's a good idea-- my only objection being he might run into a
|> library tough with a 12 pound book or a broom wielding witchy
|> librarian wanting her late fee money!
|>
|> | "Logs" <Logs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
|> | news:7972CCB3-F411-436C-B49A-9C529BAE9FFA@microsoft.com...
|> |> OK i have a problem. The computer that works in my house has only
|> |> a cd drive, and the computer having these problems has a cd drive
|> |> and a floppy drive. So what bootdisc do I get?
|> |>
|> |> "PCR" wrote:
|> |>
|> |> > "Ben Myers" <benjmyers@mindR-e-m-o-v-Espring.com> wrote in
|> |> > message news:uzz8Qxi6HHA.5796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
|> |> > | "Logs" <Logs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
|> |> > | news:120456E1-285D-4421-912F-A61BF333A573@microsoft.com...
|> |> > |> OK thanks for the help. I was thinking that I would need a
|> |> > |> boot floppy, but don't know much about them. Exactly where
|> |> > |> can I get one, and what type do I need?
|> |> > |
|> |> > | You can get a Windows 98 boot floppy from
|> |> > | http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm
|> |> > |
|> |> > |> I also don't really understand what you mean when you say
|> |> > |> type "edit c:\setuplog.txt", then use the "Page Down" key to
|> |> > |> scroll down to the bottom.
|> |> > |
|> |> > | Start the computer with the boot floppy, select "Start
|> |> > | without CD support", type "edit c:\setuplog.txt", press
|> |> > | "Enter", then use the "Page Down" key to get to the end of
|> |> > | the file. Windows setup creates the file one line at a time,
|> |> > | so the last entry is sometimes useful when something goes
|> |> > | wrong. Also, see if the file mentions
|> |> > | an anti virus check.
|> |> >
|> |> > To that I would add... Ctrl-Alt gets you to Edit's "File" menu,
|> |> > where you may D-Arrow to "Exit". Hit Enter when on Exit. If
|> |> > changes were made, a requestor pops up. Use the TAB key to
|> |> > traverse the buttons on the Exit requestor.
|> |> >
|> |> > |> Also, you might be able to bypass the antivirus problem
|> |> > |> by starting setup with "/ir" switch. I'm really dumb with
|> |> > |> stuff like this and don't know what you're talking about. If
|> |> > |> you could please tell me what to do in step by step so that a
|> |> > |> mechanically challenged person can do it I'd really
|> |> > |> appreciate it. Thank you sooo much fo the help you've given
|> |> > |> me so far.
|> |> > |
|> |> > | If you are using an ordinary Windows 98 CD, start the computer
|> |> > | with the
|> |> > | boot floppy, select "Start with CD support", then insert the
|> |> > | Windows 98
|> |> > | CD, type "setup /ir" and press "Enter". This sometimes
|> |> > | bypasses the problem caused by boot virus protection.
|> |> > |
|> |> > | Ben
|> |> >
|> |> > --
|> |> > Thanks or Good Luck,
|> |> > There may be humor in this post, and,
|> |> > Naturally, you will not sue,
|> |> > Should things get worse after this,
|> |> > PCR
|> |> > pcrrcp@netzero.net
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[Angel]

98 Guy,
People come up here for help. You decide that they are to follow YOUR
rules on posting?? You really should not delete their words in the posting.
Why? because when you do, you make it almost impossible for people to
understand the REAL problem! Top posting is not lazy. I do not think that it
is necessary to follow your rules. I think that you are being *a nit
picker*on minimal matters, the things that do not matter.
We really do not pay attention how some post, we just are asking for
help and not criticism on how we write our post, just that our posts are
understandable as to get the help we need.
Angel

"98 Guy" <98@Guy.com> wrote in message news:46DC1867.9F8FB95@Guy.com...
> darkrats wrote:
>
> > > Was it necessary to include 120 lines of quoted text in your
> > > top-posted reply?
> >
> > Probably not, but I just typed my reply and then hit Send.
>
> Too bad. It's lazy, and it's poor composition and style.
>
> > I see others do pretty much the same thing, in a lot of
> > newsgroups,
>
> Yes, they're all lazy asses that use the default OE composition style
> which is intended for e-mail correspondence - not usenet postings.
>
> > and I don't understand why it bothers some people.
>
> Because it doesn't allow for more creative styles of conversation,
> such as the in-line responses that I'm crafting in this post.
>
> > Just scroll down and read the post.
>
> When you include dozens or hundreds of lines of previous messages,
> it's not clear what specifically you are responding to. What comment,
> opinion, detail, etc.
>
> > Why should the responder have to go and backspace out all the
> > quoted text before sending his reply?
>
> If you're not going to respond to any specific statement from the post
> you are replying to, then removing all other older material is trivial
> and is proper usenet posting style.

 

[Bill in Co.]

Angel wrote:
> Hi all,
> Sorry I goofed!! I should have said BTW instead of BTY. Just hit the wrong
> key. I still do not know why some object to top posting. I PREFER top
> posting. Sometimes easier to read. Some others do too. To each his own.
Why
> get hung up on bottom posting? Nothing better to do?
> Angel

Yup, that's the reason!
And some are on a false crusade to "enlighten" the rest of us, when, truth
be told, they are the ones who need the enlightenment. (But don't bother,
as it will just fall on deaf ears). Top, bottom, or inline posting, as one
sees fit, all sound fine.

But then again, I've been around longer than those few self ordained priests
who made up that so-called etiquette rule about how Bottom Posting is the
Only Path - "The True Path" - to follow.

 

[Angel]

Bill,
I agree with you whole heartily!! I don't really care where they
post. I just want to see the whole post, some are deleting stuff just
because they do not like the way we post!! No need to delete any part of the
post. It just messes it up!! I guess some are just enjoying doing so.
Angel

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:%23opoXtl7HHA.5980@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Angel wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > Sorry I goofed!! I should have said BTW instead of BTY. Just hit the
wrong
> > key. I still do not know why some object to top posting. I PREFER top
> > posting. Sometimes easier to read. Some others do too. To each his own.
> Why
> > get hung up on bottom posting? Nothing better to do?
> > Angel
>
> Yup, that's the reason!
> And some are on a false crusade to "enlighten" the rest of us, when, truth
> be told, they are the ones who need the enlightenment. (But don't
bother,
> as it will just fall on deaf ears). Top, bottom, or inline posting, as
one
> sees fit, all sound fine.
>
> But then again, I've been around longer than those few self ordained
priests
> who made up that so-called etiquette rule about how Bottom Posting is the
> Only Path - "The True Path" - to follow.
>
>

 

[Sunny]

"Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
news:Oj94MZl7HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> 98 Guy,
> People come up here for help. You decide that they are to follow YOUR
> rules on posting??

Where did 98 Guy claim that they were "his" rules ?

>You really should not delete their words in the posting.
> Why? because when you do, you make it almost impossible for people to
> understand the REAL problem!

It becomes a tad tedious, searching among the lines of a post, when the same
stuff is re-posted a zillion times.

>Top posting is not lazy. I do not think that it
> is necessary to follow your rules. I think that you are being *a nit
> picker*on minimal matters, the things that do not matter.

Repeating the same 100 lines of a post just to add one line does matter on
Usenet.

> We really do not pay attention how some post, we just are asking for
> help and not criticism on how we write our post, just that our posts are
> understandable as to get the help we need.
> Angel

Using the royal "we" is assuming that everyone agrees with your ideas?
"Netiquette" is not about rules, just good practice.
IMHO
< snip 98 Guy" message news:46DC1867.9F8FB95@Guy.com. >

 

[98 Guy]

Angel wrote:

> I just want to see the whole post, some are deleting stuff
> just because they do not like the way we post!!

No. I delete stuff because that stuff doesn't need to be posted
(quoted) AGAIN unless I'm responding directly to it. To drag several
old posts along with every reply makes no sense. If I want to read
the older posts, I can go back to them. Seems that too many people
think that their reply must contain ALL of the accumulated posts in
the thread - as if it's the only copy in existance.

> No need to delete any part of the post. It just messes it up!!

If you want to make a more organized, comprehensible and readable
reply, you should quote only the material that you are replying to.
Remember that the original post still exists on usenet, in it's
entirety.

> I guess some are just enjoying doing so.

Some people know how to construct a more useful, readable, and concise
reply. This was what usenet was like before it became mangled by
people using OE to post to it, as if they were having an e-mail
conversation with someone.

 

[MEB]

"Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:uiFAfwr7HHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
|
| "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
| news:Oj94MZl7HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > 98 Guy,
| > People come up here for help. You decide that they are to follow YOUR
| > rules on posting??
|
| Where did 98 Guy claim that they were "his" rules ?
|
| >You really should not delete their words in the posting.
| > Why? because when you do, you make it almost impossible for people to
| > understand the REAL problem!
|
| It becomes a tad tedious, searching among the lines of a post, when the
same
| stuff is re-posted a zillion times.
|
| >Top posting is not lazy. I do not think that it
| > is necessary to follow your rules. I think that you are being *a nit
| > picker*on minimal matters, the things that do not matter.
|
| Repeating the same 100 lines of a post just to add one line does matter on
| Usenet.
|
| > We really do not pay attention how some post, we just are asking for
| > help and not criticism on how we write our post, just that our posts are
| > understandable as to get the help we need.
| > Angel
|
| Using the royal "we" is assuming that everyone agrees with your ideas?
| "Netiquette" is not about rules, just good practice.
| IMHO
| < snip 98 Guy" message news:46DC1867.9F8FB95@Guy.com. >
|
|

Well then, so now we have outsiders tell us how we should post.. right,
like that's going to happen ...

Don't like how we post, find a different forum to monitor and post to.. See
ya,,

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
________

 

[MEB]

"Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
news:OMvYdTX7HHA.2752@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| Hi Logs,
| I have a suggestion. Go to the library and download it on a computer
that
| has a floppy drive. There may be other places in your town that has a
| computer with floppy drive that you can use. Ask around.
| Angel

Many libraries do not have floppy drives OR CDROM drives on their
computers. They are seen as a potential entry point for viruses and other.

When attempting to save something, one must ask for access to the printer.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
________

 

[Angel]

MEB,
I was going by the computers that the library in this town has the last
time I checked. It used to be that they would not allow you to bring in a
floppy of your own. They used to not allow you to go to email because of
virus, that has changed. Now they allow it. Before that, I used to go to the
computer room in the University to get info. for class and other
information. They had other computer rooms around the University. We were
allowed to bring in our own floppy. I guess it all depends on where you
are. Maybe he could go to a "Kinko's". I never used their computers. All I
know is some have computers for public use.
Angel

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
>
> "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> news:OMvYdTX7HHA.2752@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> | Hi Logs,
> | I have a suggestion. Go to the library and download it on a computer
> that
> | has a floppy drive. There may be other places in your town that has a
> | computer with floppy drive that you can use. Ask around.
> | Angel
>
> Many libraries do not have floppy drives OR CDROM drives on their
> computers. They are seen as a potential entry point for viruses and other.
>
> When attempting to save something, one must ask for access to the
printer.
>
> --
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> ________
>
>
>
>

 

[Sunny]

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:uiFAfwr7HHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
<snip>
> | Where did 98 Guy claim that they were "his" rules ?
> | Repeating the same 100 lines of a post just to add one line does matter
> on
> | Usenet.
> |
> | Using the royal "we" is assuming that everyone agrees with your ideas?
> | "Netiquette" is not about rules, just good practice.
> | IMHO
> | < snip 98 Guy" message news:46DC1867.9F8FB95@Guy.com. >

> Well then, so now we have outsiders tell us how we should post.. right,
> like that's going to happen ...
>
> Don't like how we post, find a different forum to monitor and post to..

Tad anal with the "outsiders" in a "public" forum MEB?
BTW I didn't "tell" anyone how to post, just suggest a couple of items that
were "good practice".
Is the use of the "we" an attempt to isolate others from your narrow views?
(Or a indication of a closed mind)

Have you been appointed the CEO of this Public News Group, to restrict free
comment?

 

[MEB]

"Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:uxyP5PF8HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|
| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:%23vsV8g57HHA.396@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| >
| > "Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
| > news:uiFAfwr7HHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| <snip>
| > | Where did 98 Guy claim that they were "his" rules ?
| > | Repeating the same 100 lines of a post just to add one line does
matter
| > on
| > | Usenet.
| > |
| > | Using the royal "we" is assuming that everyone agrees with your ideas?
| > | "Netiquette" is not about rules, just good practice.
| > | IMHO
| > | < snip 98 Guy" message news:46DC1867.9F8FB95@Guy.com. >
|
| > Well then, so now we have outsiders tell us how we should post.. right,
| > like that's going to happen ...
| >
| > Don't like how we post, find a different forum to monitor and post to..
|
| Tad anal with the "outsiders" in a "public" forum MEB?
| BTW I didn't "tell" anyone how to post, just suggest a couple of items
that
| were "good practice".
| Is the use of the "we" an attempt to isolate others from your narrow
views?
| (Or a indication of a closed mind)
|
| Have you been appointed the CEO of this Public News Group, to restrict
free
| comment?
|

Of course not, you're free to post what you wish, just as others may... see
the relationship?

Let's make this simple so perhaps you and others can understand.

In technical discussions, unless one has the background information
available in the thread when the search engines pop-up the thread's article
pursuant some search string, phrase or other query your idea of proper
posting would leave the search without the background information necessary
for understanding. Unlike you, those queriers have NOT followed the
discussion, they just want the information.

Now, would WE [the users/major posters of this group] follow this ignorant
approach you and others seem to be fostering, WE would be neglecting our
responsibility to the users/readers of these informative materials. Sorry
you seem incapable of understanding.

So take this uninformed attitude to the other forums, where much of the
blather, and junk CAN and should be removed. WE [the users of this forum],
don't need this ignorance here, OR make an effort to actually understand the
INTERNET and networking, and related data bases of information.

Myself, I allow for the most part, the original querier to cut materials
when they feel the answer has been supplied in the form they understand.
That seems to provide a much better answer, as that perhaps reflects others
mental capacities.

Did this answer YOUR question? Or should I continue until you get a better
understanding of the Internet.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
________

 

[Sunny]

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OskYipJ8HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> "Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:uxyP5PF8HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | <snip>
> | > | Where did 98 Guy claim that they were "his" rules ?
> | > | Repeating the same 100 lines of a post just to add one line does
> matter
> | > on
> | > | Usenet.
> | > |
> | > | Using the royal "we" is assuming that everyone agrees with your
> ideas?
> | > | "Netiquette" is not about rules, just good practice.
> | > | IMHO
> | > | < snip 98 Guy" message news:46DC1867.9F8FB95@Guy.com. >
> |
> | > Well then, so now we have outsiders tell us how we should post..
> right,
> | > like that's going to happen ...
> | >
> | > Don't like how we post, find a different forum to monitor and post
> to..
> |
> | Tad anal with the "outsiders" in a "public" forum MEB?
> | BTW I didn't "tell" anyone how to post, just suggest a couple of items
> that
> | were "good practice".
> | Is the use of the "we" an attempt to isolate others from your narrow
> views?
> | (Or a indication of a closed mind)
> |
> | Have you been appointed the CEO of this Public News Group, to restrict
> free
> | comment?
> |
>
> Of course not, you're free to post what you wish, just as others may...
> see
> the relationship?
>
> Let's make this simple so perhaps you and others can understand.
>
> In technical discussions, unless one has the background information
> available in the thread when the search engines pop-up the thread's
> article
> pursuant some search string, phrase or other query your idea of proper
> posting would leave the search without the background information
> necessary
> for understanding. Unlike you, those queriers have NOT followed the
> discussion, they just want the information.
>
> Now, would WE [the users/major posters of this group] follow this ignorant
> approach you and others seem to be fostering, WE would be neglecting our
> responsibility to the users/readers of these informative materials. Sorry
> you seem incapable of understanding.
>
> So take this uninformed attitude to the other forums, where much of the
> blather, and junk CAN and should be removed. Now, would WE [the
> users/major posters of this group] follow this ignorant
> approach you and others seem to be fostering, WE would be neglecting our
>
> Myself, I allow for the most part, the original querier to cut materials
> when they feel the answer has been supplied in the form they understand.
> That seems to provide a much better answer, as that perhaps reflects
> others
> mental capacities.
>
> Did this answer YOUR question? Or should I continue until you get a better
> understanding of the Internet.
>
> --
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

No need to continue (except to point out this is not the Internet, but a
Microsoft news group that is available to Usenet)
You have made yourself very clear with your use of the presumptuous
"Now, would WE [the users/major posters of this group] follow this ignorant
approach you and others seem to be fostering," <snip>,,,,,,,,,

If you feel that it is appropriate ,to only allow the original poster to
snip items from a post, then by all means enjoy your self made "rule"

 

[MEB]

"Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:%23oqEzAS8HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
|
| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:OskYipJ8HHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > "Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
| > news:uxyP5PF8HHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| > | <snip>
| > | > | Where did 98 Guy claim that they were "his" rules ?
| > | > | Repeating the same 100 lines of a post just to add one line does
| > matter
| > | > on
| > | > | Usenet.
| > | > |
| > | > | Using the royal "we" is assuming that everyone agrees with your
| > ideas?
| > | > | "Netiquette" is not about rules, just good practice.
| > | > | IMHO
| > | > | < snip 98 Guy" message news:46DC1867.9F8FB95@Guy.com. >
| > |
| > | > Well then, so now we have outsiders tell us how we should post..
| > right,
| > | > like that's going to happen ...
| > | >
| > | > Don't like how we post, find a different forum to monitor and post
| > to..
| > |
| > | Tad anal with the "outsiders" in a "public" forum MEB?
| > | BTW I didn't "tell" anyone how to post, just suggest a couple of items
| > that
| > | were "good practice".
| > | Is the use of the "we" an attempt to isolate others from your narrow
| > views?
| > | (Or a indication of a closed mind)
| > |
| > | Have you been appointed the CEO of this Public News Group, to restrict
| > free
| > | comment?
| > |
| >
| > Of course not, you're free to post what you wish, just as others may...
| > see
| > the relationship?
| >
| > Let's make this simple so perhaps you and others can understand.
| >
| > In technical discussions, unless one has the background information
| > available in the thread when the search engines pop-up the thread's
| > article
| > pursuant some search string, phrase or other query your idea of proper
| > posting would leave the search without the background information
| > necessary
| > for understanding. Unlike you, those queriers have NOT followed the
| > discussion, they just want the information.
| >
| > Now, would WE [the users/major posters of this group] follow this
ignorant
| > approach you and others seem to be fostering, WE would be neglecting our
| > responsibility to the users/readers of these informative materials.
Sorry
| > you seem incapable of understanding.
| >
| > So take this uninformed attitude to the other forums, where much of the
| > blather, and junk CAN and should be removed. Now, would WE [the
| > users/major posters of this group] follow this ignorant
| > approach you and others seem to be fostering, WE would be neglecting our
| >
| > Myself, I allow for the most part, the original querier to cut materials
| > when they feel the answer has been supplied in the form they understand.
| > That seems to provide a much better answer, as that perhaps reflects
| > others
| > mental capacities.
| >
| > Did this answer YOUR question? Or should I continue until you get a
better
| > understanding of the Internet.
| >
| > --
| > MEB
| > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
|
| No need to continue (except to point out this is not the Internet, but a
| Microsoft news group that is available to Usenet)
| You have made yourself very clear with your use of the presumptuous
| "Now, would WE [the users/major posters of this group] follow this
ignorant
| approach you and others seem to be fostering," <snip>,,,,,,,,,
|
| If you feel that it is appropriate ,to only allow the original poster to
| snip items from a post, then by all means enjoy your self made "rule"
|
|

HAHAHAAHA, "not the Internet", just how the heck do you think you're
getting this?
What, its floating around in the ether, and you just grab it from there...
gees, how completely out of touch with reality can YOU be....

I did NOT say "only the original poster", you did. Apparently there is
another that needs remedial reading classes, heavy on comprehension. But
since your now attempting to present MY attitude, let's review how I do
handle some of these long posts.

Should it continue beyond an acceptable [to me] length WITHOUT being
properly cut by the poster [or they finally get whatever aspect now
finalized], OR the querier does NOT yet get the issue, I will supply a
summary to the discussion. Which, were you someone who actually posted here,
rather than just someone looking for conversation and to foster some
ludicrous idea, you would have known.

SO, let's see, now you claim this is my "self made rule", so what is it
that you're presenting? I doubt seriously you will understand how the
interrelationship exists.. how what you present is EXACTLY what you
supposedly take issue with and oppose.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
________

 

[Sunny]

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:O1lD0GX8HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> "Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> <snip>
> HAHAHAAHA, "not the Internet", just how the heck do you think you're
> getting this?

Usenet uses the Internet, it is not "the Internet" Usenet is :
"A public access network on the Internet that provides user news and group
e-mail. It is a giant, dispersed bulletin board that is maintained by
volunteers who provide news and mail feeds to other nodes."
(Microsoft does not consider their public news groups to be Usenet, but to
"made available to")

> What, its floating around in the ether, and you just grab it from there...
> gees, how completely out of touch with reality can YOU be....

Not as "out of touch" with Usenet as a lot of AOL customers.

> I did NOT say "only the original poster", you did. Apparently there is
> another that needs remedial reading classes, heavy on comprehension. But
> since your now attempting to present MY attitude, let's review how I do
> handle some of these long posts.
>
> Should it continue beyond an acceptable [to me] length WITHOUT being
> properly cut by the poster [or they finally get whatever aspect now
> finalized], OR the querier does NOT yet get the issue, I will supply a
> summary to the discussion. Which, were you someone who actually posted
> here,
> rather than just someone looking for conversation and to foster some
> ludicrous idea, you would have known.

If you had bothered to check my posting History, you will find that I have
been posting here since 1996, on various MS groups.
However, AOL posters do seem to have a "limited exposure" on
Usenet/Internet. IMHO

 

[MEB]

"Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:OVoG2db8HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
|
| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:O1lD0GX8HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > "Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> <snip>
| > HAHAHAAHA, "not the Internet", just how the heck do you think you're
| > getting this?
|
| Usenet uses the Internet, it is not "the Internet" Usenet is :
| "A public access network on the Internet that provides user news and group
| e-mail. It is a giant, dispersed bulletin board that is maintained by
| volunteers who provide news and mail feeds to other nodes."
| (Microsoft does not consider their public news groups to be Usenet, but to
| "made available to")

HAHAHA, so you actually looked that up, funny...


|
| > What, its floating around in the ether, and you just grab it from
there...
| > gees, how completely out of touch with reality can YOU be....
|
| Not as "out of touch" with Usenet as a lot of AOL customers.

Oh let's see WHY would you bring up AOL,, hmmm, perhaps because I use it
for THIS GROUP ONLY [okay, I've used this *real me* for a few other posts
elsewhere] ...

Oh this gets better and better ... I can already see you think your an
important party on this planet ... and now we travel to supposed personal
attacks, whoopie, here we go ....

|
| > I did NOT say "only the original poster", you did. Apparently there is
| > another that needs remedial reading classes, heavy on comprehension. But
| > since your now attempting to present MY attitude, let's review how I do
| > handle some of these long posts.
| >
| > Should it continue beyond an acceptable [to me] length WITHOUT being
| > properly cut by the poster [or they finally get whatever aspect now
| > finalized], OR the querier does NOT yet get the issue, I will supply a
| > summary to the discussion. Which, were you someone who actually posted
| > here,
| > rather than just someone looking for conversation and to foster some
| > ludicrous idea, you would have known.
|
| If you had bothered to check my posting History, you will find that I have
| been posting here since 1996, on various MS groups.
| However, AOL posters do seem to have a "limited exposure" on
| Usenet/Internet. IMHO
|

Why would I give a rat's butt about your posting history,,, so let's see,
1996 hmm,,, seems I was posting in Fido in 1986 [or was it before then,
gees, why does it matter, like I give a crap what you think] via various
Universities, .. that's back in ARPA and BBS days btw.... so it seems
*yahookie* users are more apt to be isolated regarding what the world
actually is.
Hmm, what was I doing in 1995, oh yah, hacking those Universities so they
could setup/tighten up their security and yes, they did know AND asked me
to and SOP or co-SOP to a few BBS which provided gateways TO the new
Internet and HOSTING USENET [in my supposed free time, between my businesses
and legal research]... sooooo, what's your *claim to fame* ... obviously you
haven't kept track of HOW the Internet works ...

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
________

 

[Angel]

Hi MEB,
Some STILL do not get it!! They need something to do with their time
other than criticizing others. They have too much time on their hands!! They
should get involved in something constructive. Criticizing others is VERY
destructive. I take classes and get involved with community projects to help
others, not run them down. Maybe Sunny and others should take classes and do
community service (volunteer) to improve their mind and be understanding of
others.
Angel

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23TnC4Re8HHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
>
> "Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:OVoG2db8HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> |
> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | news:O1lD0GX8HHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | > "Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> <snip>
> | > HAHAHAAHA, "not the Internet", just how the heck do you think you're
> | > getting this?
> |
> | Usenet uses the Internet, it is not "the Internet" Usenet is :
> | "A public access network on the Internet that provides user news and
group
> | e-mail. It is a giant, dispersed bulletin board that is maintained by
> | volunteers who provide news and mail feeds to other nodes."
> | (Microsoft does not consider their public news groups to be Usenet, but
to
> | "made available to")
>
> HAHAHA, so you actually looked that up, funny...
>
>
> |
> | > What, its floating around in the ether, and you just grab it from
> there...
> | > gees, how completely out of touch with reality can YOU be....
> |
> | Not as "out of touch" with Usenet as a lot of AOL customers.
>
> Oh let's see WHY would you bring up AOL,, hmmm, perhaps because I use it
> for THIS GROUP ONLY [okay, I've used this *real me* for a few other posts
> elsewhere] ...
>
> Oh this gets better and better ... I can already see you think your an
> important party on this planet ... and now we travel to supposed personal
> attacks, whoopie, here we go ....
>
> |
> | > I did NOT say "only the original poster", you did. Apparently there is
> | > another that needs remedial reading classes, heavy on comprehension.
But
> | > since your now attempting to present MY attitude, let's review how I
do
> | > handle some of these long posts.
> | >
> | > Should it continue beyond an acceptable [to me] length WITHOUT being
> | > properly cut by the poster [or they finally get whatever aspect now
> | > finalized], OR the querier does NOT yet get the issue, I will supply a
> | > summary to the discussion. Which, were you someone who actually posted
> | > here,
> | > rather than just someone looking for conversation and to foster some
> | > ludicrous idea, you would have known.
> |
> | If you had bothered to check my posting History, you will find that I
have
> | been posting here since 1996, on various MS groups.
> | However, AOL posters do seem to have a "limited exposure" on
> | Usenet/Internet. IMHO
> |
>
> Why would I give a rat's butt about your posting history,,, so let's see,
> 1996 hmm,,, seems I was posting in Fido in 1986 [or was it before then,
> gees, why does it matter, like I give a crap what you think] via various
> Universities, .. that's back in ARPA and BBS days btw.... so it seems
> *yahookie* users are more apt to be isolated regarding what the world
> actually is.
> Hmm, what was I doing in 1995, oh yah, hacking those Universities so they
> could setup/tighten up their security and yes, they did know AND asked me
> to and SOP or co-SOP to a few BBS which provided gateways TO the new
> Internet and HOSTING USENET [in my supposed free time, between my
businesses
> and legal research]... sooooo, what's your *claim to fame* ... obviously
you
> haven't kept track of HOW the Internet works ...
>
> --
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> ________
>
>
>