NEED HELP SOON: Win7 Files & Settings Transfer Wiz & Office Outlook PST Mailboxes

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Tecknomage

I'm going to help a friend setup his new DELL with Win7 Pro & Office

2007 this weekend 4/6.



I have used the [Files and Settings Transfer Wizard] between WinXP SP3

systems many times at work. But I've always transferred the user's

folder that had the Outlook PST files to ensure the mailboxes were

transferred, but that was with *Office 2000 or 2003* installed in

source and Office 2003 in destination.



How well will the *Win7* [Files and Settings Transfer Wizard] work

from a WinXP with Outlook 2000 to Win7 with Outlook 2007?



In Win7 with Office 2007, where exactly (path) are a user's Outlook

PST files kept?



As you can guess, this will be my first Win7 setup.







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IT Technician

San Diego, CA
 
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Joel

Tecknomage wrote:



>I'm going to help a friend setup his new DELL with Win7 Pro & Office

>2007 this weekend 4/6.

>

>I have used the [Files and Settings Transfer Wizard] between WinXP SP3

>systems many times at work. But I've always transferred the user's

>folder that had the Outlook PST files to ensure the mailboxes were

>transferred, but that was with *Office 2000 or 2003* installed in

>source and Office 2003 in destination.

>

>How well will the *Win7* [Files and Settings Transfer Wizard] work

>from a WinXP with Outlook 2000 to Win7 with Outlook 2007?

>

>In Win7 with Office 2007, where exactly (path) are a user's Outlook

>PST files kept?

>

>As you can guess, this will be my first Win7 setup.





It's been a long time since I used Office 2000, but there should be an

export function in Outlook 2000 that creates one gigantic PST file

that can then be imported into his new copy of Outlook. I'd at least

try it that way first.



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Joel Crump
 
A

Alias

Re: NEED HELP SOON: Win7 Files & Settings Transfer Wiz & OfficeOutlook PST Mailboxes

Joel wrote:

> Tecknomage wrote:

>

>> I'm going to help a friend setup his new DELL with Win7 Pro & Office

>> 2007 this weekend 4/6.

>>

>> I have used the [Files and Settings Transfer Wizard] between WinXP SP3

>> systems many times at work. But I've always transferred the user's

>> folder that had the Outlook PST files to ensure the mailboxes were

>> transferred, but that was with *Office 2000 or 2003* installed in

>> source and Office 2003 in destination.

>>

>> How well will the *Win7* [Files and Settings Transfer Wizard] work

>>from a WinXP with Outlook 2000 to Win7 with Outlook 2007?

>> In Win7 with Office 2007, where exactly (path) are a user's Outlook

>> PST files kept?

>>

>> As you can guess, this will be my first Win7 setup.

>

>

> It's been a long time since I used Office 2000, but there should be an

> export function in Outlook 2000 that creates one gigantic PST file

> that can then be imported into his new copy of Outlook. I'd at least

> try it that way first.

>



And you would have advised the OP to do a very stupid thing. PST files

must be *opened*, not imported. Outlook 2000 has the old type of .pst

file which has a limit of 2 gigs. The new .pst files have no limit and

are set by default to 20 gigs. The .pst file doesn't need to be

exported. It needs to be copied to external media and then pasted into

the new computer where, after installing Outlook 07, one should go to

File/Open/Personal data file and navigate to where the .pst was pasted

and open it. Then one can move all the emails to the new .pst file and

then close the old one.



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Alias
 
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Joel

Alias wrote:



>> It's been a long time since I used Office 2000, but there should be an

>> export function in Outlook 2000 that creates one gigantic PST file

>> that can then be imported into his new copy of Outlook. I'd at least

>> try it that way first.

>

>And you would have advised the OP to do a very stupid thing. PST files

>must be *opened*, not imported. Outlook 2000 has the old type of .pst

>file which has a limit of 2 gigs. The new .pst files have no limit and

>are set by default to 20 gigs. The .pst file doesn't need to be

>exported. It needs to be copied to external media and then pasted into

>the new computer where, after installing Outlook 07, one should go to

>File/Open/Personal data file and navigate to where the .pst was pasted

>and open it. Then one can move all the emails to the new .pst file and

>then close the old one.





Importing does not keep using the exported PST file copied from the

old computer - it just imports the data into the new installation. It

will be saved by Outlook 2007 natively. Your method is really more

complex. As long as the export is done with all folders selected for

exporting, it's a cleaner method for transferring - it does take time

to build the exported PST on the old computer, but one can just let it

work in the background until it's done.



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Joel Crump
 
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Alias

Re: NEED HELP SOON: Win7 Files & Settings Transfer Wiz & OfficeOutlook PST Mailboxes

Joel wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>>> It's been a long time since I used Office 2000, but there should be an

>>> export function in Outlook 2000 that creates one gigantic PST file

>>> that can then be imported into his new copy of Outlook. I'd at least

>>> try it that way first.

>> And you would have advised the OP to do a very stupid thing. PST files

>> must be *opened*, not imported. Outlook 2000 has the old type of .pst

>> file which has a limit of 2 gigs. The new .pst files have no limit and

>> are set by default to 20 gigs. The .pst file doesn't need to be

>> exported. It needs to be copied to external media and then pasted into

>> the new computer where, after installing Outlook 07, one should go to

>> File/Open/Personal data file and navigate to where the .pst was pasted

>> and open it. Then one can move all the emails to the new .pst file and

>> then close the old one.

>

>

> Importing does not keep using the exported PST file copied from the

> old computer - it just imports the data into the new installation. It

> will be saved by Outlook 2007 natively. Your method is really more

> complex. As long as the export is done with all folders selected for

> exporting, it's a cleaner method for transferring - it does take time

> to build the exported PST on the old computer, but one can just let it

> work in the background until it's done.

>



Bzzzzzzzzzzzt wrong! I suggest you repeat that in this newsgroup and get

ready to be slammed big time: microsoft.public.outlook.



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Alias
 
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Joel

Alias wrote:



>Bzzzzzzzzzzzt wrong! I suggest you repeat that in this newsgroup and get

>ready to be slammed big time: microsoft.public.outlook.





I suggest you prove (or at least substantiate) your idiotic assertion

or shut the fuck up. Since when are you a credible character for

contradicting people without any evidence?



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Joel Crump
 
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Alias

Re: NEED HELP SOON: Win7 Files & Settings Transfer Wiz & OfficeOutlook PST Mailboxes

Joel wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> Bzzzzzzzzzzzt wrong! I suggest you repeat that in this newsgroup and get

>> ready to be slammed big time: microsoft.public.outlook.

>

>

> I suggest you prove (or at least substantiate) your idiotic assertion

> or shut the fuck up. Since when are you a credible character for

> contradicting people without any evidence?

>



Go to the newsgroup. State your case. You will be corrected by at least

five Outlook MVPs. Insulting me is not going to do anything but make you

look bad.



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Alias
 
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Alias

Re: NEED HELP SOON: Win7 Files & Settings Transfer Wiz & OfficeOutlook PST Mailboxes

Joel wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>>> It's been a long time since I used Office 2000, but there should be an

>>> export function in Outlook 2000 that creates one gigantic PST file

>>> that can then be imported into his new copy of Outlook. I'd at least

>>> try it that way first.

>> And you would have advised the OP to do a very stupid thing. PST files

>> must be *opened*, not imported. Outlook 2000 has the old type of .pst

>> file which has a limit of 2 gigs. The new .pst files have no limit and

>> are set by default to 20 gigs. The .pst file doesn't need to be

>> exported. It needs to be copied to external media and then pasted into

>> the new computer where, after installing Outlook 07, one should go to

>> File/Open/Personal data file and navigate to where the .pst was pasted

>> and open it. Then one can move all the emails to the new .pst file and

>> then close the old one.

>

>

> Importing does not keep using the exported PST file copied from the

> old computer - it just imports the data into the new installation. It

> will be saved by Outlook 2007 natively. Your method is really more

> complex. As long as the export is done with all folders selected for

> exporting, it's a cleaner method for transferring - it does take time

> to build the exported PST on the old computer, but one can just let it

> work in the background until it's done.

>



I wonder what the good folks in microsoft.public.outlook think of this

exporting/importing method.



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Alias
 
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Peter Foldes

Alias



You were correct with your answer to the OP in the alt.group. Importing and

Exporting will corrupt the files



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Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others

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"Alias" wrote in message

news:hp26ve$uoo$3@news.eternal-september.org...

> Joel wrote:

>> Alias wrote:

>>

>>>> It's been a long time since I used Office 2000, but there should be an

>>>> export function in Outlook 2000 that creates one gigantic PST file

>>>> that can then be imported into his new copy of Outlook. I'd at least

>>>> try it that way first.

>>> And you would have advised the OP to do a very stupid thing. PST files must be

>>> *opened*, not imported. Outlook 2000 has the old type of .pst file which has a

>>> limit of 2 gigs. The new .pst files have no limit and are set by default to 20

>>> gigs. The .pst file doesn't need to be exported. It needs to be copied to

>>> external media and then pasted into the new computer where, after installing

>>> Outlook 07, one should go to File/Open/Personal data file and navigate to where

>>> the .pst was pasted and open it. Then one can move all the emails to the new

>>> .pst file and then close the old one.

>>

>>

>> Importing does not keep using the exported PST file copied from the

>> old computer - it just imports the data into the new installation. It

>> will be saved by Outlook 2007 natively. Your method is really more

>> complex. As long as the export is done with all folders selected for

>> exporting, it's a cleaner method for transferring - it does take time

>> to build the exported PST on the old computer, but one can just let it

>> work in the background until it's done.

>>

>

> I wonder what the good folks in microsoft.public.outlook think of this

> exporting/importing method.

>

> --

> Alias
 
J

Joel

Alias wrote:



>> I suggest you prove (or at least substantiate) your idiotic assertion

>> or shut the fuck up. Since when are you a credible character for

>> contradicting people without any evidence?

>

>Go to the newsgroup. State your case. You will be corrected by at least

>five Outlook MVPs. Insulting me is not going to do anything but make you

>look bad.





That's what I thought - you have no evidence, you're just asking me to

prove you wrong. Typical trolling idiocy - fuck off and die.



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Joel Crump
 
J

Joel

"Peter Foldes" wrote:



>Alias

>

>You were correct with your answer to the OP in the alt.group. Importing and

>Exporting will corrupt the files





I guess that's why I've done it that way multiple times, for a family

member who actually uses Outlook for God knows what reason, and has

changed computers multiple times, and it didn't "corrupt" anything.

And I guess you enjoy using a product that you claim "corrupts" files

for absolutely no good reason. Two for two on Microsoft Office

lameness.



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Joel Crump
 
J

Joel

Alias wrote:



>I wonder what the good folks in microsoft.public.outlook think of this

>exporting/importing method.





I wonder why you care, Ubuntu toy-Linux-distro luser. I only answered

the OP to be helpful, since I loathe MS Office, even though I run

Windows, but happen to have done this for another person's computer.

It's funny how you'll stoop to spamming the Outlook NG just to troll

a.win7.gen.



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Joel Crump
 
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Alias

Re: NEED HELP SOON: Win7 Files & Settings Transfer Wiz & OfficeOutlook PST Mailboxes

Joel wrote:

> Alias wrote:

>

>> I wonder what the good folks in microsoft.public.outlook think of this

>> exporting/importing method.

>

>

> I wonder why you care, Ubuntu toy-Linux-distro luser. I only answered

> the OP to be helpful, since I loathe MS Office, even though I run

> Windows, but happen to have done this for another person's computer.

> It's funny how you'll stoop to spamming the Outlook NG just to troll

> a.win7.gen.

>



You wanted proof and Peter gave it to you. If you can wait, I am sure

that more Outlook experts will correct you as well. You hurling insults

towards me and Ubuntu does nothing for your credibility except to reveal

how desperate you are to be right.



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Alias
 
B

Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]

"Joel" wrote in message

news:qoa9r5h5mj3vvhekeskq33d4lufi37f2iq@4ax.com...



> I guess that's why I've done it that way multiple times, for a family

> member who actually uses Outlook for God knows what reason, and has

> changed computers multiple times, and it didn't "corrupt" anything.

> And I guess you enjoy using a product that you claim "corrupts" files

> for absolutely no good reason. Two for two on Microsoft Office

> lameness.



I think "corrupt" is too strong. It's undeniable, however, that importing and

exporting _change_ the data. It's undeniable also that importing and

exporting leaves out some of the data, like links between contacts and

calendar events, Distribution Lists, and other metadata. Importing and

Exporting is for moving data between Outlook and other non-Outlook programs,

not for moving data between Outlook instances.

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Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]
 
A

Alias

Re: NEED HELP SOON: Win7 Files & Settings Transfer Wiz & OfficeOutlook PST Mailboxes

Joel wrote:

> "Peter Foldes" wrote:

>

>> Alias

>>

>> You were correct with your answer to the OP in the alt.group. Importing and

>> Exporting will corrupt the files

>

>

> I guess that's why I've done it that way multiple times, for a family

> member who actually uses Outlook for God knows what reason, and has

> changed computers multiple times, and it didn't "corrupt" anything.

> And I guess you enjoy using a product that you claim "corrupts" files

> for absolutely no good reason. Two for two on Microsoft Office

> lameness.

>



Did you know that insulting people is not an acceptable way of

conducting yourself in a debate? In fact, you lose as soon as you start

your insults.



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Alias
 
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Tom Willett

Perhaps sometimes with some people, but not all the time, nor most of the

time. Our company did it numerous times with numerous flavors of Outlook

many many times over the years. Not one iota of corruption. But, we have

discontinued using Outlook anyway.



"Peter Foldes" wrote in message

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: Alias

:

: You were correct with your answer to the OP in the alt.group. Importing

and

: Exporting will corrupt the files

:

: --

: Peter

:

: Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others

: Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

:

: "Alias" wrote in message

: news:hp26ve$uoo$3@news.eternal-september.org...

: > Joel wrote:

: >> Alias wrote:

: >>

: >>>> It's been a long time since I used Office 2000, but there should be

an

: >>>> export function in Outlook 2000 that creates one gigantic PST file

: >>>> that can then be imported into his new copy of Outlook. I'd at least

: >>>> try it that way first.

: >>> And you would have advised the OP to do a very stupid thing. PST files

must be

: >>> *opened*, not imported. Outlook 2000 has the old type of .pst file

which has a

: >>> limit of 2 gigs. The new .pst files have no limit and are set by

default to 20

: >>> gigs. The .pst file doesn't need to be exported. It needs to be copied

to

: >>> external media and then pasted into the new computer where, after

installing

: >>> Outlook 07, one should go to File/Open/Personal data file and navigate

to where

: >>> the .pst was pasted and open it. Then one can move all the emails to

the new

: >>> .pst file and then close the old one.

: >>

: >>

: >> Importing does not keep using the exported PST file copied from the

: >> old computer - it just imports the data into the new installation. It

: >> will be saved by Outlook 2007 natively. Your method is really more

: >> complex. As long as the export is done with all folders selected for

: >> exporting, it's a cleaner method for transferring - it does take time

: >> to build the exported PST on the old computer, but one can just let it

: >> work in the background until it's done.

: >>

: >

: > I wonder what the good folks in microsoft.public.outlook think of this

: > exporting/importing method.

: >

: > --

: > Alias

:
 
D

Diane Poremsky [MVP]

No, it won't corrupt the files. It can corrupt the profile. In the specific

case in this thread, importing is acceptable as much of the hidden crap that

is not exported can't be used in Outlook 2007 and won't be moved either.

Importing can be faster than moving everything manually. (Hidden things,

like Views and Published forms are stored in folders - if you don't move the

folder, you lose these things.)



PST Conversion methods are here:

http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ansi-to-unicode.asp

Last modified date, links, and anything using the items GUID is messed up by

import/report, but these are also affected by copying - only Moving will

preserve the data and I'll bet most people who use the open and move method

actually copy, not move, the data.



Importing should not be used when you are moving to a new computer and

keeping the same version of Outlook. Its not recommended when you are

upgrading 1 version, but when upgrading multiple versions or from ANSI to

Unicode, its acceptable. Why? Because each new version of Outlook adds more

properties and hidden content. Outlook can add the properties to the

existing pst, but it's better to make a new one. Importing is the easiest

and less confusing "KISS" method for many users to upgrade to a pst.



Yeah, for a long time Microsoft recommended importing when opening the pst

would be better, but in the last few years we've gotten just as bad by

insisting that all import/exports are evil and should *never* be used.





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"Peter Foldes" wrote in message

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> Alias

>

> You were correct with your answer to the OP in the alt.group. Importing

> and Exporting will corrupt the files

>

> --

> Peter

>

> Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others

> Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

>

> "Alias" wrote in message

> news:hp26ve$uoo$3@news.eternal-september.org...

>> Joel wrote:

>>> Alias wrote:

>>>

>>>>> It's been a long time since I used Office 2000, but there should be an

>>>>> export function in Outlook 2000 that creates one gigantic PST file

>>>>> that can then be imported into his new copy of Outlook. I'd at least

>>>>> try it that way first.

>>>> And you would have advised the OP to do a very stupid thing. PST files

>>>> must be *opened*, not imported. Outlook 2000 has the old type of .pst

>>>> file which has a limit of 2 gigs. The new .pst files have no limit and

>>>> are set by default to 20 gigs. The .pst file doesn't need to be

>>>> exported. It needs to be copied to external media and then pasted into

>>>> the new computer where, after installing Outlook 07, one should go to

>>>> File/Open/Personal data file and navigate to where the .pst was pasted

>>>> and open it. Then one can move all the emails to the new .pst file and

>>>> then close the old one.

>>>

>>>

>>> Importing does not keep using the exported PST file copied from the

>>> old computer - it just imports the data into the new installation. It

>>> will be saved by Outlook 2007 natively. Your method is really more

>>> complex. As long as the export is done with all folders selected for

>>> exporting, it's a cleaner method for transferring - it does take time

>>> to build the exported PST on the old computer, but one can just let it

>>> work in the background until it's done.

>>>

>>

>> I wonder what the good folks in microsoft.public.outlook think of this

>> exporting/importing method.

>>

>> --

>> Alias

>
 
J

Joel

Alias wrote:



>> I guess that's why I've done it that way multiple times, for a family

>> member who actually uses Outlook for God knows what reason, and has

>> changed computers multiple times, and it didn't "corrupt" anything.

>> And I guess you enjoy using a product that you claim "corrupts" files

>> for absolutely no good reason. Two for two on Microsoft Office

>> lameness.

>

>Did you know that insulting people is not an acceptable way of

>conducting yourself in a debate? In fact, you lose as soon as you start

>your insults.





Who the f--- are you kidding? You're the one who brought their group

into your manufactured "debate", troll. That one MSO fanboy happened

to support your insane statement doesn't add much to the debate,

unless you would take his word for it just to suit your agenda (which

it appears you would).



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J

Joel

Alias wrote:



>You wanted proof and Peter gave it to you.





Am I supposed to know *what* proof he claims he has just because, like

you, he spouted some ridiculous tripe? I have successfully used my

suggested method, multiple times. Maybe Peter made some mistake. And

why did another poster contradict him, other than myself? Doesn't

that "prove" anything, or is it only "proof" if someone makes an

assertion that supports *you*, dips---?





> If you can wait, I am sure

>that more Outlook experts





Is that anything like "military intelligence"?





> will correct you as well.





And I will laugh at their Wintendo luserdom.





> You hurling insults

>towards me and Ubuntu does nothing for your credibility except to reveal

>how desperate you are to be right.





I am right - you are a joke of a Linux user, and Outlook along with

all of MSO is a complete piece of trash, and my suggested method does

work. I stand by it all.



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Diane Poremsky [MVP]

> Exporting is for moving data between Outlook and other non-Outlook

> programs, not for moving data between Outlook instances.



Not necessarily. If you only need to move *some* data to another outlook,

say calendar and contacts, then exporting to a pst is fine. Moving a

multi-GB pst for 200 contacts is nuts and exporting recurring calendar items

to another format removes the recurrences.



Also, if the person uses Copy to move the data into the new pst, everything

that import breaks is broken by Copy. Only Move will reserve the properties.



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"Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]" wrote in message

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> "Joel" wrote in message

> news:qoa9r5h5mj3vvhekeskq33d4lufi37f2iq@4ax.com...

>

>> I guess that's why I've done it that way multiple times, for a family

>> member who actually uses Outlook for God knows what reason, and has

>> changed computers multiple times, and it didn't "corrupt" anything.

>> And I guess you enjoy using a product that you claim "corrupts" files

>> for absolutely no good reason. Two for two on Microsoft Office

>> lameness.

>

> I think "corrupt" is too strong. It's undeniable, however, that importing

> and exporting _change_ the data. It's undeniable also that importing and

> exporting leaves out some of the data, like links between contacts and

> calendar events, Distribution Lists, and other metadata. Importing and

> Exporting is for moving data between Outlook and other non-Outlook

> programs, not for moving data between Outlook instances.

> --

> Brian Tillman [MVP-Outlook]
 
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