Good registry cleaner?

[Shenan Stanley]

apistomaster(nospam) wrote:

> Before anyone jumps me for mentioning Windows 7 on the XP forum let

> me say I realize that..

> I merely wanted to point out that on the Window 7 support forum,

> they have 2 identical adds at the top and bottom of every page from

> UniBlue stating that the first thing one should do is download and

> run their registry cleaner. I am not taking any sides in this issue

> but Microsoft seems to be pushing user to get and use this registry

> cleaner. And it is not free.

> Why would Microsoft be so willingly support the use of this product?

> I know that the consensus here is that registry cleaners are next to

> or worse than useless.

> I happened to use one once, the UniBlue product to be exact, on my

> Inspiron E1505 laptop and it fixed the problem I was having, a

> missing or corrupted .dll file but I never ran it again.

> This message was produced on a Sony Vaio laptop running Windows 7

> Home Premium Edition.

> My Inspiron is in the shop and my small hooby business of selling

> fish makes it absolutely necessary that I have a working computer. I

> ordered a $1000 build of a Dell Studio 17 but it was going to take

> up to 3 weeks for it to arrive so I bought the Vaio to be able to

> stay in touch with my customers. Raising tropical fish is my

> hobby/business not computers but once the Inspiron is out of the

> shop and the new Studio 17 arrives I will own 3 working laptops so

> I will never be caught without at least one working machine again.



On top and bottom of *what* forum?



I am accessing this *newsgroup* from Outlook Express - not a web forum. I

know about the Microsoft Windows 7 'forums' here:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/help/community



Specifically here:

http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windows7



And on those officially ran by Microsoft forums - I do not see any such

adds. I could be missing them - if so - please point them out to me.



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apistomaster(nospam) wrote:

> Before anyone jumps me for mentioning Windows 7 on the XP forum let me

> say I realize that..

> I merely wanted to point out that on the Window 7 support forum, they

> have 2 identical adds at the top and bottom of every page from UniBlue

> stating that the first thing one should do is download and run their

> registry cleaner...

 

[EN59CVH]

Unknown wrote:

>

> But, your 'guarantees' aren't worth the powder to blow them to bits.



But you seem to like reading them so there must be some powder for your

mummy to look tidy!

 

[EN59CVH]

Only the Microsoft Valuable Pigs (or MVPs for short) are spreading lies,

more lies and utter nonsense. The rest of us are saying that CCleaner

has a place in computer maintenance on XP.



hth





"apistomaster(nospam)" wrote:

>

> Before anyone jumps me for mentioning Windows 7 on the XP forum let me

> say I realize that..

> I merely wanted to point out that on the Window 7 support forum, they

> have 2 identical adds at the top and bottom of every page from UniBlue

> stating that the first thing one should do is download and run their

> registry cleaner. I am not taking any sides in this issue but

> Microsoft seems to be pushing user to get and use this registry

> cleaner. And it is not free.

> Why would Microsoft be so willingly support the use of this product?

> I know that the consensus here is that registry cleaners are next to

> or worse than useless.

> I happened to use one once, the UniBlue product to be exact, on my

> Inspiron E1505 laptop and it fixed the problem I was having, a missing

> or corrupted .dll file but I never ran it again.

> This message was produced on a Sony Vaio laptop running Windows 7 Home

> Premium Edition.

> My Inspiron is in the shop and my small hooby business of selling fish

> makes it absolutely necessary that I have a working computer. I

> ordered a $1000 build of a Dell Studio 17 but it was going to take up

> to 3 weeks for it to arrive so I bought the Vaio to be able to stay in

> touch with my customers. Raising tropical fish is my hobby/business

> not computers but once the Inspiron is out of the shop and the new

> Studio 17 arrives I will own 3 working laptops so I will never be

> caught without at least one working machine again.

 

[Gordon]

"EN59CVH" wrote in message

news:ehh0CwLvKHA.1964@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Nil wrote:

>

>>I sometimes use CCleaner to point out (what it considers) to be anomalies

>>in the register.

>

> You are more intelligent than the average PIG you get on these newsgroups

> with the title MVP after their name. CCleaner is a fantastic tool and I

> am surprised it hasn't become commercial yet.

>

> Keep up the good work Nil.

>



You really are a CRETIN aren't you? I've been using Windows in all flavours

since 3.1 and am now on 7. I have NEVER needed any sort of registry cleaner.



MORON.



PLONK!

 

[Gordon]

"EN59CVH" wrote in message

news:4B92F36F.77255268@discussions.microsoft.com...

> Only the Microsoft Valuable Pigs (or MVPs for short) are spreading lies,

> more lies and utter nonsense. The rest of us are saying that CCleaner

> has a place in computer maintenance on XP.

>



But it doesn't. You're an idiot.

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 13:17:58 -0000, "Gordon"

wrote:





> "EN59CVH" wrote in message

> news:4B92F36F.77255268@discussions.microsoft.com...

> > Only the Microsoft Valuable Pigs (or MVPs for short) are spreading lies,

> > more lies and utter nonsense. The rest of us are saying that CCleaner

> > has a place in computer maintenance on XP.

> >

>

> But it doesn't. You're an idiot.





I think it does. Most of us have pointed out that CCleaner *is* a very

good program, and only its registry cleaning function should be

avoided.



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[EN59CVH]

Gordon wrote:

>



> You really are a CRETIN aren't you? I've been using Windows in all flavours

> since 3.1 and am now on 7. I have NEVER needed any sort of registry cleaner.

>



Well in that case there is definitely something wrong in your brain!

You are just another idiot (Ken blake is your soul mate) whose

experience starts with Windows 3.1 but knows absolutely nothing! Ken

hasn't mastered the art of formatting a HD because, like you, he has

never needed to format a HD! Now this says everything one needs to know

about nutters like you and Ken.

 

[EN59CVH]

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

>





> I think it does. Most of us have pointed out that CCleaner *is* a very

> good program,

>



are you now contradicting your soul mate? It looks like you have been

converted so join the club Ken. You are always welcome with your

rational approach to problem solving!

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Gordon wrote:

>

> "EN59CVH" wrote in message

> news:4B92F36F.77255268@discussions.microsoft.com...

>> Only the Microsoft Valuable Pigs (or MVPs for short) are spreading lies,

>> more lies and utter nonsense. The rest of us are saying that CCleaner

>> has a place in computer maintenance on XP.

>>

>

> But it doesn't.



Not quite true.



CCleaner's only real strength, and the only reason I use it, lies in

its usefulness for cleaning up unused temporary files from the hard

drive. It differs from the native Windows tool in that it allows more

granular control and you can specify which folders you want scanned. For

instance, WinXP's disk cleaner will examine only the profile folders of

the user who is running the utility. On a single-user machine, this is

fine, but on a family or other mult-use machine, the ability to clean

temorary files from all of the user profiles at once is a great time saver.



However, you're also partially correct. I've tested the most

recent recent version (with all updates) version on a brand-new OS

installation with no additional applications installed, and certainly

none installed and then uninstalled, and CCleaner still managed to

"find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned registry entries and dozens of

purportedly "suspicious" files, making it clearly a *worthless* product,

in this regard. (Not that any registry cleaner can ever be anything but

worthless, as they don't serve any *useful* purpose, to start with.)





> You're an idiot.



No argument there, but I wonder why you feel the need to point it out

when "EN59CVH" does such a thoroughly good job of doing so him/herself

with every post he/she sends.





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[Peter Foldes]

So you agree that the Registry cleaning program of CCleaner should not be used as

any other registry cleaning tool



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"EN59CVH" wrote in message

news:4B93CBDE.BD55B65C@discussions.microsoft.com...

> Most of us have pointed out that CCleaner *is* a very

>good program, and only its registry cleaning function should be

>avoided.

> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

>>

>

>

>> I think it does. Most of us have pointed out that CCleaner *is* a very

>> good program,

>>

>

> are you now contradicting your soul mate? It looks like you have been

> converted so join the club Ken. You are always welcome with your

> rational approach to problem solving!

 

[apistomaster(nospam)]

On Mar 6, 1:26 pm, "Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> apistomaster(nospam) wrote:

> > Before anyone jumps me for mentioning Windows 7 on the XP forum let

> > me say I realize that..

> > I merely wanted to point out that on the Window 7 support forum,

> > they have 2 identical adds at the top and bottom of every page from

> > UniBlue stating that the first thing one should do is download and

> > run their registry cleaner. I am not taking any sides in this issue

> > but Microsoft seems to be pushing user to get and use this registry

> > cleaner. And it is not free.

> > Why would Microsoft be so willingly support the use of this product?

> > I know that the consensus here is that registry cleaners are next to

> > or worse than useless.

> > I happened to use one once, the UniBlue product to be exact, on my

> > Inspiron E1505 laptop and it fixed the problem I was having, a

> > missing or corrupted .dll file but I never ran it again.

> > This message was produced on a Sony Vaio laptop running Windows 7

> > Home Premium Edition.

> > My Inspiron is in the shop and my small hooby business of selling

> > fish makes it absolutely necessary that I have a working computer. I

> > ordered a $1000 build of a Dell Studio 17 but it was going to take

> > up to 3 weeks for it to arrive so I bought the Vaio to be able to

> > stay in touch with my customers. Raising tropical fish is my

> > hobby/business not computers but once the Inspiron is out of the

> > shop and the new Studio 17 arrives I will own 3 working laptops so

> > I will never be caught without at least one working machine again.

>

> On top and bottom of *what* forum?

>

> I am accessing this *newsgroup* from Outlook Express - not a web forum.  I

> know about the Microsoft Windows 7 'forums' here:http://windows.microsoft..com/en-US/windows/help/community

>

> Specifically here:http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windows7

>

> And on those officially ran by Microsoft forums - I do not see any such

> adds.  I could be missing them - if so - please point them out to me.

>

> --

> Shenan Stanley

>      MS-MVP

> --

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Here is the forum I found when I had a question about Windows 7 I

could answer for myself.

I only had been using Win 7 2 days so still have much to learn about

how it all works.

I do like it very much and if you are buying new machines it is

certainly better than my single day's worth of experience helping

friend set up his Vista Home Premium OS settings.

Seemed like Vista asked for administrator to log in at every turn. Win

7 doesn't.

Minor and off topic comments.

Here is that forum which had the specific answer to my particular

question. I see it isn't exactly THE Microsoft Windows 7 help forum

but imitates it.

http://www.sevenforums.com/

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Peter Foldes wrote:

> So you agree that the Registry cleaning program of CCleaner should not be

> used as any other registry cleaning tool

>

>

> "EN59CVH" wrote in message

> news:4B93CBDE.BD55B65C@discussions.microsoft.com...

>> Most of us have pointed out that CCleaner *is* a very

>> good program, and only its registry cleaning function should be

>> avoided.

>> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

>>>

>>

>>

>>> I think it does. Most of us have pointed out that CCleaner *is* a very

>>> good program,

>>>

>>

>> are you now contradicting your soul mate? It looks like you have been

>> converted so join the club Ken. You are always welcome with your

>> rational approach to problem solving!

 

[Gordon]

"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message

news:u$XhCFhvKHA.732@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Gordon wrote:

>

>> You're an idiot.

>

> No argument there, but I wonder why you feel the need to point it out when

> "EN59CVH" does such a thoroughly good job of doing so him/herself with

> every post he/she sends.

>



Well nearly every one - I've just killfiled him...

 

[KevinB]

Gordon wrote:

>



> Well nearly every one - I've just killfiled him...



No you haven't. You keep reading his/her messages and respond

accordingly. You are a lying troll.

 

[Gordon]

"KevinB" wrote in message

news:4B93F2D3.E4862BF2@discussions.microsoft.com...

>

>

> Gordon wrote:

>>

>

>> Well nearly every one - I've just killfiled him...

>

> No you haven't. You keep reading his/her messages and respond

> accordingly. You are a lying troll.

>



And who rattled YOUR cage?

 

[Twayne]

In news:4B93CB0B.92476278@discussions.microsoft.com,

EN59CVH typed:

> Gordon wrote:

>>

>

>> You really are a CRETIN aren't you? I've been using

>> Windows in all flavours since 3.1 and am now on 7. I have

>> NEVER needed any sort of registry cleaner.

>>

>

> Well in that case there is definitely something wrong in

> your brain! You are just another idiot (Ken blake is your

> soul mate) whose experience starts with Windows 3.1 but

> knows absolutely nothing! Ken hasn't mastered the art of

> formatting a HD because, like you, he has never needed to

> format a HD! Now this says everything one needs to know

> about nutters like you and Ken.



Most likely he needed it, but was just too half-fast to know he needed it

and suffered thru. There are more than a couple in this group that claim to

meet the same criteria.



Twayne



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[Twayne]

In news:4B93CBDE.BD55B65C@discussions.microsoft.com,

EN59CVH typed:

> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

>>

>

>

>> I think it does. Most of us have pointed out that CCleaner

>> *is* a very good program,

>>

>

> are you now contradicting your soul mate? It looks like

> you have been converted so join the club Ken. You are

> always welcome with your rational approach to problem

> solving!



Not a single one of the misinformationists I've ever noticed said to allow

it to touch the registry though. A few gave good, knowledgeable responses,

but most won't bother because of the fanatic few and their diatribes.



--

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[Twayne]

In news:eFU4tOhvKHA.5940@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,

Peter Foldes typed:

> So you agree that the Registry cleaning program of CCleaner

> should not be used as any other registry cleaning tool



lol! Speak of the devil and he appears! This one in particular has zero

reality on board w/r to cleaners and loves to issue troll bait.



Twayne





>

>

> "EN59CVH" wrote in

> message news:4B93CBDE.BD55B65C@discussions.microsoft.com...

>> Most of us have pointed out that CCleaner *is* a very

>> good program, and only its registry cleaning function

>> should be avoided.

>> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

>>>

>>

>>

>>> I think it does. Most of us have pointed out that

>>> CCleaner *is* a very good program,

>>>

>>

>> are you now contradicting your soul mate? It looks like

>> you have been converted so join the club Ken. You are

>> always welcome with your rational approach to problem

>> solving!







--

--

Life is the only real counselor wisdom unfiltered

through personal experience does not become a

part of the moral tissue.

 

[Twayne]

LOL! See? That's exactly what I was talking about a couple links upwards.

Don't even bother with these troll baiters and ex-most valuable prophets of

the devil.





In news:u$XhCFhvKHA.732@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,

Bruce Chambers typed:

> Gordon wrote:

>>

>> "EN59CVH" wrote in

>> message news:4B92F36F.77255268@discussions.microsoft.com...

>>> Only the Microsoft Valuable Pigs (or MVPs for short) are

>>> spreading lies, more lies and utter nonsense. The rest

>>> of us are saying that CCleaner has a place in computer

>>> maintenance on XP.

>>

>> But it doesn't.

>

> Not quite true.

>

> CCleaner's only real strength, and the only reason I use

> it, lies in its usefulness for cleaning up unused temporary

> files from the hard drive. It differs from the native Windows tool in

> that it

> allows more granular control and you can specify which

> folders you want scanned. For instance, WinXP's disk

> cleaner will examine only the profile folders of the user

> who is running the utility. On a single-user machine, this

> is fine, but on a family or other mult-use machine, the

> ability to clean temorary files from all of the user

> profiles at once is a great time saver.

> However, you're also partially correct. I've tested

> the most recent recent version (with all updates) version on a

> brand-new OS installation with no additional applications

> installed, and certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and CCleaner

> still

> managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned

> registry entries and dozens of purportedly "suspicious"

> files, making it clearly a *worthless* product, in this

> regard. (Not that any registry cleaner can ever be

> anything but worthless, as they don't serve any *useful*

> purpose, to start with.)

>

>> You're an idiot.

>

> No argument there, but I wonder why you feel the need to

> point it out when "EN59CVH" does such a thoroughly good job of doing so

> him/herself with every post he/she sends.







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Life is the only real counselor wisdom unfiltered

through personal experience does not become a

part of the moral tissue.