My Vista Experience.

[cozzmo1@hotmail.com]

Here is my Vista experience.

As a Network Engineer I have worked with many hundreds of PC's with
multiple OS's.
Early May, I got a new Family PC.
Being the cutting edge Guy I went with Vista all the way.
I got a new custom PC, 500 Gig HD, 2-Gig RAM, The motherboard (ASRock
775Dual-Vista) even has Vista in its name.
I just wanted to be sure everything was compatible.

Vista (OEM 32-bit Home) installed nicely and after a little while I
was able to navigate it pretty easily. I liked the aero thingy, but
couldn't see much that XP didn't already provide.

It wasn't until I started installing and using my programs that I
realized what a draining process it would be. I simply had to learn
first hand how ugly and really frustrating an OS could be.

---------
Annoyance.
Find: Not nearly as good as PCWorld makes it sound.
I like google desktop search much better, but you can't turn off
Vista's indexing fuction.
This makes it a bad choice to use Googles search and have 2 such
processes running.
Googles sidebar is exactly the same as the one that comes with Vista.

---------
Problem:

AOL email crashes in mozilla and the client crashes, email only worked
using IE.
AOL Error Code: C0FE1702
AOL 9.0VR (Vista Ready), (Worked for a while)
Then my son put on i-tunes for his IPOD. (AOL started to crash
progressivly over the next week),
I tried these:
uninstalled mcafee
uninstalled aol,
printer driver
reload.

FIX:
I uninstalled itunes and that fixed the problem until he re-installed
it, with a newer version that still didn't help, (AOL+VISTA+itunes=AOL
Crashing).

Note: AOL was not completly fixed as it would always disco
occasionally after that.

---------
Anoyance:
The screen kept going momentarily black whenever I loaded a program
with the annoying button asking if I was sure I wanted to run the
program.

FIX:
I turned off UAC (user account control) to speed things up.
Told that it could be a security hole though.
---------
Problem
Mcafee will not install on Vista.

FIX.
To install my retail mcafee on vista.
http://us.mcafee.com/vista/

run sticker_update_1_2.exe
Be sure to keep your McAfee product CD that was included in the box.
You will need this CD for authentication to add the Vista-compatible
upgrade.

Note: Mcafee seems to run faster in XP

--------
Problem:

I could not access the C:/ drive on my new VISTA from my XP machine.
(just other subfolders)
Getting "not permitted" error.
\\COMPUTER\c$ is not accessible. You might not have permission to use
this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to
find out if you have access permissions.

>From other web site, but this is the overly complex workaround.
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System and add
a new DWORD labeled "LocalAccountTokenFilterPolicy" and set it's value
to 1.

Reboot

I also had to R-click C: do "advanced sharing" add "everyone and
annonymous login" and give them full permissions. (even though I did
it before I had tweaked the registry).

------------
Problem:
unidentified device. "Yellow "?" in the device manager.
Still get error " Windows Vista does not support MPU-401 Compatible
MIDI Device"
When I remove the unidentified device.

Never fixed until I installed XP, then it went away.
-----
Problem:
Printer extremely slow.
HP PSC 1310 All-in-One series printer,

Trying to print from my Vista PC to the printer that is on my XP box.
?? tried updating the driver on xp and also installed driver on the
remote vista pc.
Nothing worked.

Cause:
HP will do nothing to fix the problem and I am not about to Buy a new
Printer just because HP will not ever make an XP driver that is also
Vista friendly.

FIX:
Ditched Vista (Works great on XP)
---------

Problem:
Second Copy won't take my registration code.
Thus I was stuck with the one month trial.
FIX:
Ditched Vista
--------
Problem:
Utorrent downloads don't work. (Yes there are legitimate uses)

FIX:
Vista has a greedy limit on TCP connections.
There is a crack for the "TCP concurrent connection limit in Vista".
but MS should have made it easier to adjust that.

This seems to work ok using XP.
--------
Problem:
Adobe premier 6.5 and MainConcept.
Not sure which, but when I render a video to MPEG2 now the resulting
video has a bad sound track that is out of sync with the video. this
results in Jerky DVD's and is a major issue for me.
The output MPEG 2 video (according to AVICodec) is intermittently
flawed.

-----
Problem,
Entrust encryption software (Client Software: Entrust Entelligence
6.1SP1)
Not Vista capable.
No workaround.
(this will at least keep my office from embracing Vista for a while)
------
Problem,

Nero 6.3, (this was on the MS site as a compatible product)
When installing, there was a warning that this was Vista incompatible,
and I chose to install anyway. Nero didn't work.
but worse, the DVD Drive completly vanished from my explorer!!

FIX: None,
I had to do a rollback to a previous time.
Uninstalled Nero. to this date, Nero of any flavor does not with
Vista.
--------
Problem:
Sonic My-DVD, simply does not work with Vista.
Cannot install or run.

Workaround: None, but...
I bought Video Show Expressions. This worked, but was really not as
good as Sonic and it doesn't take elementary streams for video input
like Sonic does.
So now I have sunk more money into the Vista incompatibility issue for
lesser software.
-----
Problem
Office XP, (office assistant)
You only get the paper clip, none of the other helper buddies work. no
dog/Cat/Wizard.
I didn't try all the other features, but Word/Excel worked ok.

I guess Microsoft wants me to buy the new office
--------
Problem:
Age of Empires/Conquerors expansion.
My favorite Game and it's by Microsoft, so it should work. (NOT)
You can't see any of the help files to see what units cost of what you
civilizations strengths/weakneses are.
I Verifeid this also using another Vista PC also.

------
Problem: (this time HW related)
after a few months and countless hours dealing with the above Vista
Annoyances.
I had a real HW problem.

Symptoms:
07/31
Crashed BSOD (Blue Screen of Death), while surfing walmart.com
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
OS Version: 6.0.6000.2.0.0.768.3

I restored the PC back to the (07/23/07)
Didn't work, still getting an inconsistent BSOD.

I put in a new 300 gig HD thinking that that was the problem, I
reinstalled Vista on that, but before ever connecting to the internet,
I was getting the BSOD.

To make a very long story short.
08/05/07 Problem solved, I found and removed a bad 1 GIG RAM chip.
Now the PC was working with the original HD and everything looked the
same but it wasnt'.

-------
Problem.
Issue that arose probably as a result of the nasty crashed with the
bad RAM chip.
windows update is no longer working. (all the other stuff seems to
work though)
error,
"Windows could not search for new update"
WindowsUpdate_C0150004 WindowsUpdate_dt000

Tried
Rename the C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution folder, but didn't work.

I Called Microsoft support. @800-936-5700 and got a tech named S.
Boopath, He was actually very dilligent and I don't hold him
personally responsible.
This is actually a call that lasted 5 hours the first day and then
took place for a couple of hours the next day only to end with a
completely innoperative PC.

The tech sent me an automatic decoder tool.
and I emailed him the output data so that he could go over that.

He Called back several hours later, He then logged in via remote
desktop.
This allows him to take total control of my PC, move the mouse and
type.

He stopped a bunch of processes and renamed a bunch of files.
such as windows/system32/catroot and windows/SoftwareDistribution
then restarted.
The PC now came up with a black screen.
after many unsuccessful attempts to revert by using the Vista-DVD, and
calling back the next day to see if we could fix this.
He said we would need to reformat and reinstall Vista.
I had to save my Data still and was able to get a DOS prompt using the
"repair reinstall" option on the DVD.
I put on that extra HD from earlier and made a careful batch file
using "xcopy /S /H /E /Y"

At this point I gave up.

I told the MS Tech that if I was going to reformat my HD, there was no
way Vista would ever go back on this machine.

He appologized and basically admitted that "this is a problem that is
Vista specific, meaning it wouldn't have happened on XP. and he said
that a lot of the software/HW manufacturers just aren't on the
bandwagon yet with Vista"

I then threw in the towel and ordered a new copy of XP.
There is no way I will put Vista back on.

-------
So here I am with an expensive OEM Vista that I don't use.
I have bought several programs to replace Vista incompatible programs
and I suspect that I put 60-80 hours into the learning and
troubleshooting process.

My XP works great on my "ASRock 775Dual-Vista" and even threads the
dual processors really well.
Not just some but all of the above issues where completely resolved
once I put on XP.

My question is... How is everyone so OK with this??
Am I going mad, is it just me?
Where is everyone with similar issues?
Why does PCWorld and all the other publications keep gushing about how
good this product is?
What is the reason, Is there any compelling reason for anyone to get
Vista in the first place?

Thanks,
Crzzy1
(Just for the record, Vista Sucks)

 

[Vista User]

You installed the wrong version of NERO the latest version works and is a
free download.
You had bad memory.
You use AOL
You use McAfee
And you didn't check to see if everything had Vista Drivers.
Your trying to hack the number of connections.
And you trying to run software that is not vista compatible from the
manufacture.

And you wonder why you have problems?
You need to stay with XP and leave your computer alone.


<cozzmo1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1188835333.360017.248010@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
> Here is my Vista experience.
>
> As a Network Engineer I have worked with many hundreds of PC's with
> multiple OS's.
> Early May, I got a new Family PC.
> Being the cutting edge Guy I went with Vista all the way.
> I got a new custom PC, 500 Gig HD, 2-Gig RAM, The motherboard (ASRock
> 775Dual-Vista) even has Vista in its name.
> I just wanted to be sure everything was compatible.
>
> Vista (OEM 32-bit Home) installed nicely and after a little while I
> was able to navigate it pretty easily. I liked the aero thingy, but
> couldn't see much that XP didn't already provide.
>
> It wasn't until I started installing and using my programs that I
> realized what a draining process it would be. I simply had to learn
> first hand how ugly and really frustrating an OS could be.
>
> ---------
> Annoyance.
> Find: Not nearly as good as PCWorld makes it sound.
> I like google desktop search much better, but you can't turn off
> Vista's indexing fuction.
> This makes it a bad choice to use Googles search and have 2 such
> processes running.
> Googles sidebar is exactly the same as the one that comes with Vista.
>
> ---------
> Problem:
>
> AOL email crashes in mozilla and the client crashes, email only worked
> using IE.
> AOL Error Code: C0FE1702
> AOL 9.0VR (Vista Ready), (Worked for a while)
> Then my son put on i-tunes for his IPOD. (AOL started to crash
> progressivly over the next week),
> I tried these:
> uninstalled mcafee
> uninstalled aol,
> printer driver
> reload.
>
> FIX:
> I uninstalled itunes and that fixed the problem until he re-installed
> it, with a newer version that still didn't help, (AOL+VISTA+itunes=AOL
> Crashing).
>
> Note: AOL was not completly fixed as it would always disco
> occasionally after that.
>
> ---------
> Anoyance:
> The screen kept going momentarily black whenever I loaded a program
> with the annoying button asking if I was sure I wanted to run the
> program.
>
> FIX:
> I turned off UAC (user account control) to speed things up.
> Told that it could be a security hole though.
> ---------
> Problem
> Mcafee will not install on Vista.
>
> FIX.
> To install my retail mcafee on vista.
> http://us.mcafee.com/vista/
>
> run sticker_update_1_2.exe
> Be sure to keep your McAfee product CD that was included in the box.
> You will need this CD for authentication to add the Vista-compatible
> upgrade.
>
> Note: Mcafee seems to run faster in XP
>
> --------
> Problem:
>
> I could not access the C:/ drive on my new VISTA from my XP machine.
> (just other subfolders)
> Getting "not permitted" error.
> \\COMPUTER\c$ is not accessible. You might not have permission to use
> this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to
> find out if you have access permissions.
>
>>From other web site, but this is the overly complex workaround.
> HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System and add
> a new DWORD labeled "LocalAccountTokenFilterPolicy" and set it's value
> to 1.
>
> Reboot
>
> I also had to R-click C: do "advanced sharing" add "everyone and
> annonymous login" and give them full permissions. (even though I did
> it before I had tweaked the registry).
>
> ------------
> Problem:
> unidentified device. "Yellow "?" in the device manager.
> Still get error " Windows Vista does not support MPU-401 Compatible
> MIDI Device"
> When I remove the unidentified device.
>
> Never fixed until I installed XP, then it went away.
> -----
> Problem:
> Printer extremely slow.
> HP PSC 1310 All-in-One series printer,
>
> Trying to print from my Vista PC to the printer that is on my XP box.
> ?? tried updating the driver on xp and also installed driver on the
> remote vista pc.
> Nothing worked.
>
> Cause:
> HP will do nothing to fix the problem and I am not about to Buy a new
> Printer just because HP will not ever make an XP driver that is also
> Vista friendly.
>
> FIX:
> Ditched Vista (Works great on XP)
> ---------
>
> Problem:
> Second Copy won't take my registration code.
> Thus I was stuck with the one month trial.
> FIX:
> Ditched Vista
> --------
> Problem:
> Utorrent downloads don't work. (Yes there are legitimate uses)
>
> FIX:
> Vista has a greedy limit on TCP connections.
> There is a crack for the "TCP concurrent connection limit in Vista".
> but MS should have made it easier to adjust that.
>
> This seems to work ok using XP.
> --------
> Problem:
> Adobe premier 6.5 and MainConcept.
> Not sure which, but when I render a video to MPEG2 now the resulting
> video has a bad sound track that is out of sync with the video. this
> results in Jerky DVD's and is a major issue for me.
> The output MPEG 2 video (according to AVICodec) is intermittently
> flawed.
>
> -----
> Problem,
> Entrust encryption software (Client Software: Entrust Entelligence
> 6.1SP1)
> Not Vista capable.
> No workaround.
> (this will at least keep my office from embracing Vista for a while)
> ------
> Problem,
>
> Nero 6.3, (this was on the MS site as a compatible product)
> When installing, there was a warning that this was Vista incompatible,
> and I chose to install anyway. Nero didn't work.
> but worse, the DVD Drive completly vanished from my explorer!!
>
> FIX: None,
> I had to do a rollback to a previous time.
> Uninstalled Nero. to this date, Nero of any flavor does not with
> Vista.
> --------
> Problem:
> Sonic My-DVD, simply does not work with Vista.
> Cannot install or run.
>
> Workaround: None, but...
> I bought Video Show Expressions. This worked, but was really not as
> good as Sonic and it doesn't take elementary streams for video input
> like Sonic does.
> So now I have sunk more money into the Vista incompatibility issue for
> lesser software.
> -----
> Problem
> Office XP, (office assistant)
> You only get the paper clip, none of the other helper buddies work. no
> dog/Cat/Wizard.
> I didn't try all the other features, but Word/Excel worked ok.
>
> I guess Microsoft wants me to buy the new office
> --------
> Problem:
> Age of Empires/Conquerors expansion.
> My favorite Game and it's by Microsoft, so it should work. (NOT)
> You can't see any of the help files to see what units cost of what you
> civilizations strengths/weakneses are.
> I Verifeid this also using another Vista PC also.
>
> ------
> Problem: (this time HW related)
> after a few months and countless hours dealing with the above Vista
> Annoyances.
> I had a real HW problem.
>
> Symptoms:
> 07/31
> Crashed BSOD (Blue Screen of Death), while surfing walmart.com
> Problem signature:
> Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
> OS Version: 6.0.6000.2.0.0.768.3
>
> I restored the PC back to the (07/23/07)
> Didn't work, still getting an inconsistent BSOD.
>
> I put in a new 300 gig HD thinking that that was the problem, I
> reinstalled Vista on that, but before ever connecting to the internet,
> I was getting the BSOD.
>
> To make a very long story short.
> 08/05/07 Problem solved, I found and removed a bad 1 GIG RAM chip.
> Now the PC was working with the original HD and everything looked the
> same but it wasnt'.
>
> -------
> Problem.
> Issue that arose probably as a result of the nasty crashed with the
> bad RAM chip.
> windows update is no longer working. (all the other stuff seems to
> work though)
> error,
> "Windows could not search for new update"
> WindowsUpdate_C0150004 WindowsUpdate_dt000
>
> Tried
> Rename the C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution folder, but didn't work.
>
> I Called Microsoft support. @800-936-5700 and got a tech named S.
> Boopath, He was actually very dilligent and I don't hold him
> personally responsible.
> This is actually a call that lasted 5 hours the first day and then
> took place for a couple of hours the next day only to end with a
> completely innoperative PC.
>
> The tech sent me an automatic decoder tool.
> and I emailed him the output data so that he could go over that.
>
> He Called back several hours later, He then logged in via remote
> desktop.
> This allows him to take total control of my PC, move the mouse and
> type.
>
> He stopped a bunch of processes and renamed a bunch of files.
> such as windows/system32/catroot and windows/SoftwareDistribution
> then restarted.
> The PC now came up with a black screen.
> after many unsuccessful attempts to revert by using the Vista-DVD, and
> calling back the next day to see if we could fix this.
> He said we would need to reformat and reinstall Vista.
> I had to save my Data still and was able to get a DOS prompt using the
> "repair reinstall" option on the DVD.
> I put on that extra HD from earlier and made a careful batch file
> using "xcopy /S /H /E /Y"
>
> At this point I gave up.
>
> I told the MS Tech that if I was going to reformat my HD, there was no
> way Vista would ever go back on this machine.
>
> He appologized and basically admitted that "this is a problem that is
> Vista specific, meaning it wouldn't have happened on XP. and he said
> that a lot of the software/HW manufacturers just aren't on the
> bandwagon yet with Vista"
>
> I then threw in the towel and ordered a new copy of XP.
> There is no way I will put Vista back on.
>
> -------
> So here I am with an expensive OEM Vista that I don't use.
> I have bought several programs to replace Vista incompatible programs
> and I suspect that I put 60-80 hours into the learning and
> troubleshooting process.
>
> My XP works great on my "ASRock 775Dual-Vista" and even threads the
> dual processors really well.
> Not just some but all of the above issues where completely resolved
> once I put on XP.
>
> My question is... How is everyone so OK with this??
> Am I going mad, is it just me?
> Where is everyone with similar issues?
> Why does PCWorld and all the other publications keep gushing about how
> good this product is?
> What is the reason, Is there any compelling reason for anyone to get
> Vista in the first place?
>
> Thanks,
> Crzzy1
> (Just for the record, Vista Sucks)
>

 

[Frank]

cozzmo1@hotmail.com wrote:

> Here is my Vista experience.
>
> As a Network Engineer I have worked with many hundreds of PC's with
> multiple OS's.
> Early May, I got a new Family PC.
> Being the cutting edge Guy I went with Vista all the way.
> I got a new custom PC, 500 Gig HD, 2-Gig RAM, The motherboard (ASRock
> 775Dual-Vista) even has Vista in its name.
> I just wanted to be sure everything was compatible.
>
> Vista (OEM 32-bit Home) installed nicely and after a little while I
> was able to navigate it pretty easily. I liked the aero thingy, but
> couldn't see much that XP didn't already provide.
>
> It wasn't until I started installing and using my programs that I
> realized what a draining process it would be. I simply had to learn
> first hand how ugly and really frustrating an OS could be.
>
> ---------
> Annoyance.
> Find: Not nearly as good as PCWorld makes it sound.
> I like google desktop search much better, but you can't turn off
> Vista's indexing fuction.
> This makes it a bad choice to use Googles search and have 2 such
> processes running.
> Googles sidebar is exactly the same as the one that comes with Vista.
>
> ---------
> Problem:
>
> AOL email crashes in mozilla and the client crashes, email only worked
> using IE.
> AOL Error Code: C0FE1702
> AOL 9.0VR (Vista Ready), (Worked for a while)
> Then my son put on i-tunes for his IPOD. (AOL started to crash
> progressivly over the next week),
> I tried these:
> uninstalled mcafee
> uninstalled aol,
> printer driver
> reload.
>
> FIX:
> I uninstalled itunes and that fixed the problem until he re-installed
> it, with a newer version that still didn't help, (AOL+VISTA+itunes=AOL
> Crashing).
>
> Note: AOL was not completly fixed as it would always disco
> occasionally after that.
>
> ---------
> Anoyance:
> The screen kept going momentarily black whenever I loaded a program
> with the annoying button asking if I was sure I wanted to run the
> program.
>
> FIX:
> I turned off UAC (user account control) to speed things up.
> Told that it could be a security hole though.
> ---------
> Problem
> Mcafee will not install on Vista.
>
> FIX.
> To install my retail mcafee on vista.
> http://us.mcafee.com/vista/
>
> run sticker_update_1_2.exe
> Be sure to keep your McAfee product CD that was included in the box.
> You will need this CD for authentication to add the Vista-compatible
> upgrade.
>
> Note: Mcafee seems to run faster in XP
>
> --------
> Problem:
>
> I could not access the C:/ drive on my new VISTA from my XP machine.
> (just other subfolders)
> Getting "not permitted" error.
> \\COMPUTER\c$ is not accessible. You might not have permission to use
> this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to
> find out if you have access permissions.
>
>>From other web site, but this is the overly complex workaround.
> HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System and add
> a new DWORD labeled "LocalAccountTokenFilterPolicy" and set it's value
> to 1.
>
> Reboot
>
> I also had to R-click C: do "advanced sharing" add "everyone and
> annonymous login" and give them full permissions. (even though I did
> it before I had tweaked the registry).
>
> ------------
> Problem:
> unidentified device. "Yellow "?" in the device manager.
> Still get error " Windows Vista does not support MPU-401 Compatible
> MIDI Device"
> When I remove the unidentified device.
>
> Never fixed until I installed XP, then it went away.
> -----
> Problem:
> Printer extremely slow.
> HP PSC 1310 All-in-One series printer,
>
> Trying to print from my Vista PC to the printer that is on my XP box.
> ?? tried updating the driver on xp and also installed driver on the
> remote vista pc.
> Nothing worked.
>
> Cause:
> HP will do nothing to fix the problem and I am not about to Buy a new
> Printer just because HP will not ever make an XP driver that is also
> Vista friendly.
>
> FIX:
> Ditched Vista (Works great on XP)
> ---------
>
> Problem:
> Second Copy won't take my registration code.
> Thus I was stuck with the one month trial.
> FIX:
> Ditched Vista
> --------
> Problem:
> Utorrent downloads don't work. (Yes there are legitimate uses)
>
> FIX:
> Vista has a greedy limit on TCP connections.
> There is a crack for the "TCP concurrent connection limit in Vista".
> but MS should have made it easier to adjust that.
>
> This seems to work ok using XP.
> --------
> Problem:
> Adobe premier 6.5 and MainConcept.
> Not sure which, but when I render a video to MPEG2 now the resulting
> video has a bad sound track that is out of sync with the video. this
> results in Jerky DVD's and is a major issue for me.
> The output MPEG 2 video (according to AVICodec) is intermittently
> flawed.
>
> -----
> Problem,
> Entrust encryption software (Client Software: Entrust Entelligence
> 6.1SP1)
> Not Vista capable.
> No workaround.
> (this will at least keep my office from embracing Vista for a while)
> ------
> Problem,
>
> Nero 6.3, (this was on the MS site as a compatible product)
> When installing, there was a warning that this was Vista incompatible,
> and I chose to install anyway. Nero didn't work.
> but worse, the DVD Drive completly vanished from my explorer!!
>
> FIX: None,
> I had to do a rollback to a previous time.
> Uninstalled Nero. to this date, Nero of any flavor does not with
> Vista.
> --------
> Problem:
> Sonic My-DVD, simply does not work with Vista.
> Cannot install or run.
>
> Workaround: None, but...
> I bought Video Show Expressions. This worked, but was really not as
> good as Sonic and it doesn't take elementary streams for video input
> like Sonic does.
> So now I have sunk more money into the Vista incompatibility issue for
> lesser software.
> -----
> Problem
> Office XP, (office assistant)
> You only get the paper clip, none of the other helper buddies work. no
> dog/Cat/Wizard.
> I didn't try all the other features, but Word/Excel worked ok.
>
> I guess Microsoft wants me to buy the new office
> --------
> Problem:
> Age of Empires/Conquerors expansion.
> My favorite Game and it's by Microsoft, so it should work. (NOT)
> You can't see any of the help files to see what units cost of what you
> civilizations strengths/weakneses are.
> I Verifeid this also using another Vista PC also.
>
> ------
> Problem: (this time HW related)
> after a few months and countless hours dealing with the above Vista
> Annoyances.
> I had a real HW problem.
>
> Symptoms:
> 07/31
> Crashed BSOD (Blue Screen of Death), while surfing walmart.com
> Problem signature:
> Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
> OS Version: 6.0.6000.2.0.0.768.3
>
> I restored the PC back to the (07/23/07)
> Didn't work, still getting an inconsistent BSOD.
>
> I put in a new 300 gig HD thinking that that was the problem, I
> reinstalled Vista on that, but before ever connecting to the internet,
> I was getting the BSOD.
>
> To make a very long story short.
> 08/05/07 Problem solved, I found and removed a bad 1 GIG RAM chip.
> Now the PC was working with the original HD and everything looked the
> same but it wasnt'.
>
> -------
> Problem.
> Issue that arose probably as a result of the nasty crashed with the
> bad RAM chip.
> windows update is no longer working. (all the other stuff seems to
> work though)
> error,
> "Windows could not search for new update"
> WindowsUpdate_C0150004 WindowsUpdate_dt000
>
> Tried
> Rename the C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution folder, but didn't work.
>
> I Called Microsoft support. @800-936-5700 and got a tech named S.
> Boopath, He was actually very dilligent and I don't hold him
> personally responsible.
> This is actually a call that lasted 5 hours the first day and then
> took place for a couple of hours the next day only to end with a
> completely innoperative PC.
>
> The tech sent me an automatic decoder tool.
> and I emailed him the output data so that he could go over that.
>
> He Called back several hours later, He then logged in via remote
> desktop.
> This allows him to take total control of my PC, move the mouse and
> type.
>
> He stopped a bunch of processes and renamed a bunch of files.
> such as windows/system32/catroot and windows/SoftwareDistribution
> then restarted.
> The PC now came up with a black screen.
> after many unsuccessful attempts to revert by using the Vista-DVD, and
> calling back the next day to see if we could fix this.
> He said we would need to reformat and reinstall Vista.
> I had to save my Data still and was able to get a DOS prompt using the
> "repair reinstall" option on the DVD.
> I put on that extra HD from earlier and made a careful batch file
> using "xcopy /S /H /E /Y"
>
> At this point I gave up.
>
> I told the MS Tech that if I was going to reformat my HD, there was no
> way Vista would ever go back on this machine.
>
> He appologized and basically admitted that "this is a problem that is
> Vista specific, meaning it wouldn't have happened on XP. and he said
> that a lot of the software/HW manufacturers just aren't on the
> bandwagon yet with Vista"
>
> I then threw in the towel and ordered a new copy of XP.
> There is no way I will put Vista back on.
>
> -------
> So here I am with an expensive OEM Vista that I don't use.
> I have bought several programs to replace Vista incompatible programs
> and I suspect that I put 60-80 hours into the learning and
> troubleshooting process.
>
> My XP works great on my "ASRock 775Dual-Vista" and even threads the
> dual processors really well.
> Not just some but all of the above issues where completely resolved
> once I put on XP.
>
> My question is... How is everyone so OK with this??
> Am I going mad, is it just me?
> Where is everyone with similar issues?
> Why does PCWorld and all the other publications keep gushing about how
> good this product is?
> What is the reason, Is there any compelling reason for anyone to get
> Vista in the first place?
>
> Thanks,
> Crzzy1
> (Just for the record, Vista Sucks)
>

Let give you a clue.
Never, ever again admit in public that you are a Network Engineer, ok.
Cause based on the above post you have no idea what you're doing.
Just a piece of friendly advice.
Frank

 

[Sumer Yamaner]

"Frank" <fb@nospan.crm>, iletisinde þunu yazdý,
news:OCEY%23vk7HHA.1148@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> cozzmo1@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> Here is my Vista experience.
>>
>> As a Network Engineer I have worked with many hundreds of PC's with
>> multiple OS's.
>> Early May, I got a new Family PC.
>> Being the cutting edge Guy I went with Vista all the way.
>> I got a new custom PC, 500 Gig HD, 2-Gig RAM, The motherboard (ASRock
>> 775Dual-Vista) even has Vista in its name.
>> I just wanted to be sure everything was compatible.
>>
>> Vista (OEM 32-bit Home) installed nicely and after a little while I
>> was able to navigate it pretty easily. I liked the aero thingy, but
>> couldn't see much that XP didn't already provide.
>>
>> It wasn't until I started installing and using my programs that I
>> realized what a draining process it would be. I simply had to learn
>> first hand how ugly and really frustrating an OS could be.
>>
>> ---------
>> Annoyance.
>> Find: Not nearly as good as PCWorld makes it sound.
>> I like google desktop search much better, but you can't turn off
>> Vista's indexing fuction.
>> This makes it a bad choice to use Googles search and have 2 such
>> processes running.
>> Googles sidebar is exactly the same as the one that comes with Vista.
>>
>> ---------
>> Problem:
>>
>> AOL email crashes in mozilla and the client crashes, email only worked
>> using IE.
>> AOL Error Code: C0FE1702
>> AOL 9.0VR (Vista Ready), (Worked for a while)
>> Then my son put on i-tunes for his IPOD. (AOL started to crash
>> progressivly over the next week),
>> I tried these:
>> uninstalled mcafee
>> uninstalled aol,
>> printer driver
>> reload.
>>
>> FIX:
>> I uninstalled itunes and that fixed the problem until he re-installed
>> it, with a newer version that still didn't help, (AOL+VISTA+itunes=AOL
>> Crashing).
>>
>> Note: AOL was not completly fixed as it would always disco
>> occasionally after that.
>>
>> ---------
>> Anoyance:
>> The screen kept going momentarily black whenever I loaded a program
>> with the annoying button asking if I was sure I wanted to run the
>> program.
>>
>> FIX:
>> I turned off UAC (user account control) to speed things up.
>> Told that it could be a security hole though.
>> ---------
>> Problem
>> Mcafee will not install on Vista.
>>
>> FIX.
>> To install my retail mcafee on vista.
>> http://us.mcafee.com/vista/
>>
>> run sticker_update_1_2.exe
>> Be sure to keep your McAfee product CD that was included in the box.
>> You will need this CD for authentication to add the Vista-compatible
>> upgrade.
>>
>> Note: Mcafee seems to run faster in XP
>>
>> --------
>> Problem:
>>
>> I could not access the C:/ drive on my new VISTA from my XP machine.
>> (just other subfolders)
>> Getting "not permitted" error.
>> \\COMPUTER\c$ is not accessible. You might not have permission to use
>> this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to
>> find out if you have access permissions.
>>
>>>From other web site, but this is the overly complex workaround.
>> HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System and add
>> a new DWORD labeled "LocalAccountTokenFilterPolicy" and set it's value
>> to 1.
>>
>> Reboot
>>
>> I also had to R-click C: do "advanced sharing" add "everyone and
>> annonymous login" and give them full permissions. (even though I did
>> it before I had tweaked the registry).
>>
>> ------------
>> Problem:
>> unidentified device. "Yellow "?" in the device manager.
>> Still get error " Windows Vista does not support MPU-401 Compatible
>> MIDI Device"
>> When I remove the unidentified device.
>>
>> Never fixed until I installed XP, then it went away.
>> -----
>> Problem:
>> Printer extremely slow.
>> HP PSC 1310 All-in-One series printer,
>>
>> Trying to print from my Vista PC to the printer that is on my XP box.
>> ?? tried updating the driver on xp and also installed driver on the
>> remote vista pc.
>> Nothing worked.
>>
>> Cause:
>> HP will do nothing to fix the problem and I am not about to Buy a new
>> Printer just because HP will not ever make an XP driver that is also
>> Vista friendly.
>>
>> FIX:
>> Ditched Vista (Works great on XP)
>> ---------
>>
>> Problem:
>> Second Copy won't take my registration code.
>> Thus I was stuck with the one month trial.
>> FIX:
>> Ditched Vista
>> --------
>> Problem:
>> Utorrent downloads don't work. (Yes there are legitimate uses)
>>
>> FIX:
>> Vista has a greedy limit on TCP connections.
>> There is a crack for the "TCP concurrent connection limit in Vista".
>> but MS should have made it easier to adjust that.
>>
>> This seems to work ok using XP.
>> --------
>> Problem:
>> Adobe premier 6.5 and MainConcept.
>> Not sure which, but when I render a video to MPEG2 now the resulting
>> video has a bad sound track that is out of sync with the video. this
>> results in Jerky DVD's and is a major issue for me.
>> The output MPEG 2 video (according to AVICodec) is intermittently
>> flawed.
>>
>> -----
>> Problem,
>> Entrust encryption software (Client Software: Entrust Entelligence
>> 6.1SP1)
>> Not Vista capable.
>> No workaround.
>> (this will at least keep my office from embracing Vista for a while)
>> ------
>> Problem,
>>
>> Nero 6.3, (this was on the MS site as a compatible product)
>> When installing, there was a warning that this was Vista incompatible,
>> and I chose to install anyway. Nero didn't work.
>> but worse, the DVD Drive completly vanished from my explorer!!
>>
>> FIX: None,
>> I had to do a rollback to a previous time.
>> Uninstalled Nero. to this date, Nero of any flavor does not with
>> Vista.
>> --------
>> Problem:
>> Sonic My-DVD, simply does not work with Vista.
>> Cannot install or run.
>>
>> Workaround: None, but...
>> I bought Video Show Expressions. This worked, but was really not as
>> good as Sonic and it doesn't take elementary streams for video input
>> like Sonic does.
>> So now I have sunk more money into the Vista incompatibility issue for
>> lesser software.
>> -----
>> Problem
>> Office XP, (office assistant)
>> You only get the paper clip, none of the other helper buddies work. no
>> dog/Cat/Wizard.
>> I didn't try all the other features, but Word/Excel worked ok.
>>
>> I guess Microsoft wants me to buy the new office
>> --------
>> Problem:
>> Age of Empires/Conquerors expansion.
>> My favorite Game and it's by Microsoft, so it should work. (NOT)
>> You can't see any of the help files to see what units cost of what you
>> civilizations strengths/weakneses are.
>> I Verifeid this also using another Vista PC also.
>>
>> ------
>> Problem: (this time HW related)
>> after a few months and countless hours dealing with the above Vista
>> Annoyances.
>> I had a real HW problem.
>>
>> Symptoms:
>> 07/31
>> Crashed BSOD (Blue Screen of Death), while surfing walmart.com
>> Problem signature:
>> Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
>> OS Version: 6.0.6000.2.0.0.768.3
>>
>> I restored the PC back to the (07/23/07)
>> Didn't work, still getting an inconsistent BSOD.
>>
>> I put in a new 300 gig HD thinking that that was the problem, I
>> reinstalled Vista on that, but before ever connecting to the internet,
>> I was getting the BSOD.
>>
>> To make a very long story short.
>> 08/05/07 Problem solved, I found and removed a bad 1 GIG RAM chip.
>> Now the PC was working with the original HD and everything looked the
>> same but it wasnt'.
>>
>> -------
>> Problem.
>> Issue that arose probably as a result of the nasty crashed with the
>> bad RAM chip.
>> windows update is no longer working. (all the other stuff seems to
>> work though)
>> error,
>> "Windows could not search for new update"
>> WindowsUpdate_C0150004 WindowsUpdate_dt000
>>
>> Tried
>> Rename the C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution folder, but didn't work.
>>
>> I Called Microsoft support. @800-936-5700 and got a tech named S.
>> Boopath, He was actually very dilligent and I don't hold him
>> personally responsible.
>> This is actually a call that lasted 5 hours the first day and then
>> took place for a couple of hours the next day only to end with a
>> completely innoperative PC.
>>
>> The tech sent me an automatic decoder tool.
>> and I emailed him the output data so that he could go over that.
>>
>> He Called back several hours later, He then logged in via remote
>> desktop.
>> This allows him to take total control of my PC, move the mouse and
>> type.
>>
>> He stopped a bunch of processes and renamed a bunch of files.
>> such as windows/system32/catroot and windows/SoftwareDistribution
>> then restarted.
>> The PC now came up with a black screen.
>> after many unsuccessful attempts to revert by using the Vista-DVD, and
>> calling back the next day to see if we could fix this.
>> He said we would need to reformat and reinstall Vista.
>> I had to save my Data still and was able to get a DOS prompt using the
>> "repair reinstall" option on the DVD.
>> I put on that extra HD from earlier and made a careful batch file
>> using "xcopy /S /H /E /Y"
>>
>> At this point I gave up.
>>
>> I told the MS Tech that if I was going to reformat my HD, there was no
>> way Vista would ever go back on this machine.
>>
>> He appologized and basically admitted that "this is a problem that is
>> Vista specific, meaning it wouldn't have happened on XP. and he said
>> that a lot of the software/HW manufacturers just aren't on the
>> bandwagon yet with Vista"
>>
>> I then threw in the towel and ordered a new copy of XP.
>> There is no way I will put Vista back on.
>>
>> -------
>> So here I am with an expensive OEM Vista that I don't use.
>> I have bought several programs to replace Vista incompatible programs
>> and I suspect that I put 60-80 hours into the learning and
>> troubleshooting process.
>>
>> My XP works great on my "ASRock 775Dual-Vista" and even threads the
>> dual processors really well.
>> Not just some but all of the above issues where completely resolved
>> once I put on XP.
>>
>> My question is... How is everyone so OK with this??
>> Am I going mad, is it just me?
>> Where is everyone with similar issues?
>> Why does PCWorld and all the other publications keep gushing about how
>> good this product is?
>> What is the reason, Is there any compelling reason for anyone to get
>> Vista in the first place?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Crzzy1
>> (Just for the record, Vista Sucks)
>>
>
> Let give you a clue.
> Never, ever again admit in public that you are a Network Engineer, ok.
> Cause based on the above post you have no idea what you're doing.
> Just a piece of friendly advice.
> Frank

That's right!
I couldn't read the list until the end. One thing I can say is that the
indexing service can be turned off in Vista.

 

[Adam Albright]

>Let give you a clue.

Still can write worth a sh*t, can you Frank. Your fourth grade
education is showing.

>Never, ever again admit in public that you are a Network Engineer, ok.
>Cause based on the above post you have no idea what you're doing.
>Just a piece of friendly advice.
>Frank

This guy sounds real and of course, you weren't able to disprove a
single thing he mentioned. What's the matter fanboy, cat got your
tongue? All you can ever do is lie your stinking ass off.

You see Frank, unlike you this guy knows his stuff while you tried to
fake claiming to be an engineer then being forced to admit all you did
was solder one stinking little capacitor in place on one damn circuit
board! What a total putz you always are Frank. A TOTAL putz!

Frank, don't worry, your title of newsgroup clown remains intact.
While several other dopes have tried recently to dethrone you, I doubt
anyone will ever take away your title of king of putz since it takes a
special kind of idiot to be you Frank. Funny thing is, you seem proud
to be the total a-hole you are.

 

[Charlie Tame]

Sumer Yamaner wrote:
>
> "Frank" <fb@nospan.crm>, iletisinde þunu yazdý,
> news:OCEY%23vk7HHA.1148@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> cozzmo1@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Here is my Vista experience.
>>>
>>> As a Network Engineer I have worked with many hundreds of PC's with
>>> multiple OS's.
>>> Early May, I got a new Family PC.
>>> Being the cutting edge Guy I went with Vista all the way.
>>> I got a new custom PC, 500 Gig HD, 2-Gig RAM, The motherboard (ASRock
>>> 775Dual-Vista) even has Vista in its name.
>>> I just wanted to be sure everything was compatible.
>>>
>>> Vista (OEM 32-bit Home) installed nicely and after a little while I
>>> was able to navigate it pretty easily. I liked the aero thingy, but
>>> couldn't see much that XP didn't already provide.
>>>
>>> It wasn't until I started installing and using my programs that I
>>> realized what a draining process it would be. I simply had to learn
>>> first hand how ugly and really frustrating an OS could be.
>>>
>>> ---------
>>> Annoyance.
>>> Find: Not nearly as good as PCWorld makes it sound.
>>> I like google desktop search much better, but you can't turn off
>>> Vista's indexing fuction.
>>> This makes it a bad choice to use Googles search and have 2 such
>>> processes running.
>>> Googles sidebar is exactly the same as the one that comes with Vista.
>>>
>>> ---------
>>> Problem:
>>>
>>> AOL email crashes in mozilla and the client crashes, email only worked
>>> using IE.
>>> AOL Error Code: C0FE1702
>>> AOL 9.0VR (Vista Ready), (Worked for a while)
>>> Then my son put on i-tunes for his IPOD. (AOL started to crash
>>> progressivly over the next week),
>>> I tried these:
>>> uninstalled mcafee
>>> uninstalled aol,
>>> printer driver
>>> reload.
>>>
>>> FIX:
>>> I uninstalled itunes and that fixed the problem until he re-installed
>>> it, with a newer version that still didn't help, (AOL+VISTA+itunes=AOL
>>> Crashing).
>>>
>>> Note: AOL was not completly fixed as it would always disco
>>> occasionally after that.
>>>
>>> ---------
>>> Anoyance:
>>> The screen kept going momentarily black whenever I loaded a program
>>> with the annoying button asking if I was sure I wanted to run the
>>> program.
>>>
>>> FIX:
>>> I turned off UAC (user account control) to speed things up.
>>> Told that it could be a security hole though.
>>> ---------
>>> Problem
>>> Mcafee will not install on Vista.
>>>
>>> FIX.
>>> To install my retail mcafee on vista.
>>> http://us.mcafee.com/vista/
>>>
>>> run sticker_update_1_2.exe
>>> Be sure to keep your McAfee product CD that was included in the box.
>>> You will need this CD for authentication to add the Vista-compatible
>>> upgrade.
>>>
>>> Note: Mcafee seems to run faster in XP
>>>
>>> --------
>>> Problem:
>>>
>>> I could not access the C:/ drive on my new VISTA from my XP machine.
>>> (just other subfolders)
>>> Getting "not permitted" error.
>>> \\COMPUTER\c$ is not accessible. You might not have permission to use
>>> this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to
>>> find out if you have access permissions.
>>>
>>>> From other web site, but this is the overly complex workaround.
>>> HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System and add
>>> a new DWORD labeled "LocalAccountTokenFilterPolicy" and set it's value
>>> to 1.
>>>
>>> Reboot
>>>
>>> I also had to R-click C: do "advanced sharing" add "everyone and
>>> annonymous login" and give them full permissions. (even though I did
>>> it before I had tweaked the registry).
>>>
>>> ------------
>>> Problem:
>>> unidentified device. "Yellow "?" in the device manager.
>>> Still get error " Windows Vista does not support MPU-401 Compatible
>>> MIDI Device"
>>> When I remove the unidentified device.
>>>
>>> Never fixed until I installed XP, then it went away.
>>> -----
>>> Problem:
>>> Printer extremely slow.
>>> HP PSC 1310 All-in-One series printer,
>>>
>>> Trying to print from my Vista PC to the printer that is on my XP box.
>>> ?? tried updating the driver on xp and also installed driver on the
>>> remote vista pc.
>>> Nothing worked.
>>>
>>> Cause:
>>> HP will do nothing to fix the problem and I am not about to Buy a new
>>> Printer just because HP will not ever make an XP driver that is also
>>> Vista friendly.
>>>
>>> FIX:
>>> Ditched Vista (Works great on XP)
>>> ---------
>>>
>>> Problem:
>>> Second Copy won't take my registration code.
>>> Thus I was stuck with the one month trial.
>>> FIX:
>>> Ditched Vista
>>> --------
>>> Problem:
>>> Utorrent downloads don't work. (Yes there are legitimate uses)
>>>
>>> FIX:
>>> Vista has a greedy limit on TCP connections.
>>> There is a crack for the "TCP concurrent connection limit in Vista".
>>> but MS should have made it easier to adjust that.
>>>
>>> This seems to work ok using XP.
>>> --------
>>> Problem:
>>> Adobe premier 6.5 and MainConcept.
>>> Not sure which, but when I render a video to MPEG2 now the resulting
>>> video has a bad sound track that is out of sync with the video. this
>>> results in Jerky DVD's and is a major issue for me.
>>> The output MPEG 2 video (according to AVICodec) is intermittently
>>> flawed.
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Problem,
>>> Entrust encryption software (Client Software: Entrust Entelligence
>>> 6.1SP1)
>>> Not Vista capable.
>>> No workaround.
>>> (this will at least keep my office from embracing Vista for a while)
>>> ------
>>> Problem,
>>>
>>> Nero 6.3, (this was on the MS site as a compatible product)
>>> When installing, there was a warning that this was Vista incompatible,
>>> and I chose to install anyway. Nero didn't work.
>>> but worse, the DVD Drive completly vanished from my explorer!!
>>>
>>> FIX: None,
>>> I had to do a rollback to a previous time.
>>> Uninstalled Nero. to this date, Nero of any flavor does not with
>>> Vista.
>>> --------
>>> Problem:
>>> Sonic My-DVD, simply does not work with Vista.
>>> Cannot install or run.
>>>
>>> Workaround: None, but...
>>> I bought Video Show Expressions. This worked, but was really not as
>>> good as Sonic and it doesn't take elementary streams for video input
>>> like Sonic does.
>>> So now I have sunk more money into the Vista incompatibility issue for
>>> lesser software.
>>> -----
>>> Problem
>>> Office XP, (office assistant)
>>> You only get the paper clip, none of the other helper buddies work. no
>>> dog/Cat/Wizard.
>>> I didn't try all the other features, but Word/Excel worked ok.
>>>
>>> I guess Microsoft wants me to buy the new office
>>> --------
>>> Problem:
>>> Age of Empires/Conquerors expansion.
>>> My favorite Game and it's by Microsoft, so it should work. (NOT)
>>> You can't see any of the help files to see what units cost of what you
>>> civilizations strengths/weakneses are.
>>> I Verifeid this also using another Vista PC also.
>>>
>>> ------
>>> Problem: (this time HW related)
>>> after a few months and countless hours dealing with the above Vista
>>> Annoyances.
>>> I had a real HW problem.
>>>
>>> Symptoms:
>>> 07/31
>>> Crashed BSOD (Blue Screen of Death), while surfing walmart.com
>>> Problem signature:
>>> Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
>>> OS Version: 6.0.6000.2.0.0.768.3
>>>
>>> I restored the PC back to the (07/23/07)
>>> Didn't work, still getting an inconsistent BSOD.
>>>
>>> I put in a new 300 gig HD thinking that that was the problem, I
>>> reinstalled Vista on that, but before ever connecting to the internet,
>>> I was getting the BSOD.
>>>
>>> To make a very long story short.
>>> 08/05/07 Problem solved, I found and removed a bad 1 GIG RAM chip.
>>> Now the PC was working with the original HD and everything looked the
>>> same but it wasnt'.
>>>
>>> -------
>>> Problem.
>>> Issue that arose probably as a result of the nasty crashed with the
>>> bad RAM chip.
>>> windows update is no longer working. (all the other stuff seems to
>>> work though)
>>> error,
>>> "Windows could not search for new update"
>>> WindowsUpdate_C0150004 WindowsUpdate_dt000
>>>
>>> Tried
>>> Rename the C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution folder, but didn't work.
>>>
>>> I Called Microsoft support. @800-936-5700 and got a tech named S.
>>> Boopath, He was actually very dilligent and I don't hold him
>>> personally responsible.
>>> This is actually a call that lasted 5 hours the first day and then
>>> took place for a couple of hours the next day only to end with a
>>> completely innoperative PC.
>>>
>>> The tech sent me an automatic decoder tool.
>>> and I emailed him the output data so that he could go over that.
>>>
>>> He Called back several hours later, He then logged in via remote
>>> desktop.
>>> This allows him to take total control of my PC, move the mouse and
>>> type.
>>>
>>> He stopped a bunch of processes and renamed a bunch of files.
>>> such as windows/system32/catroot and windows/SoftwareDistribution
>>> then restarted.
>>> The PC now came up with a black screen.
>>> after many unsuccessful attempts to revert by using the Vista-DVD, and
>>> calling back the next day to see if we could fix this.
>>> He said we would need to reformat and reinstall Vista.
>>> I had to save my Data still and was able to get a DOS prompt using the
>>> "repair reinstall" option on the DVD.
>>> I put on that extra HD from earlier and made a careful batch file
>>> using "xcopy /S /H /E /Y"
>>>
>>> At this point I gave up.
>>>
>>> I told the MS Tech that if I was going to reformat my HD, there was no
>>> way Vista would ever go back on this machine.
>>>
>>> He appologized and basically admitted that "this is a problem that is
>>> Vista specific, meaning it wouldn't have happened on XP. and he said
>>> that a lot of the software/HW manufacturers just aren't on the
>>> bandwagon yet with Vista"
>>>
>>> I then threw in the towel and ordered a new copy of XP.
>>> There is no way I will put Vista back on.
>>>
>>> -------
>>> So here I am with an expensive OEM Vista that I don't use.
>>> I have bought several programs to replace Vista incompatible programs
>>> and I suspect that I put 60-80 hours into the learning and
>>> troubleshooting process.
>>>
>>> My XP works great on my "ASRock 775Dual-Vista" and even threads the
>>> dual processors really well.
>>> Not just some but all of the above issues where completely resolved
>>> once I put on XP.
>>>
>>> My question is... How is everyone so OK with this??
>>> Am I going mad, is it just me?
>>> Where is everyone with similar issues?
>>> Why does PCWorld and all the other publications keep gushing about how
>>> good this product is?
>>> What is the reason, Is there any compelling reason for anyone to get
>>> Vista in the first place?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Crzzy1
>>> (Just for the record, Vista Sucks)
>>>
>>
>> Let give you a clue.
>> Never, ever again admit in public that you are a Network Engineer, ok.
>> Cause based on the above post you have no idea what you're doing.
>> Just a piece of friendly advice.
>> Frank
>
> That's right!
> I couldn't read the list until the end. One thing I can say is that the
> indexing service can be turned off in Vista.


Also looking at the drive properties there is sometimes an option to
"Index this drive" checked and that appears to slow things down for
quite a few days if not all the time. Someone reported back that
unchecking the box helped him so it didn't just work for me

And (Dare I say it) I tend to agree with Frank. I have gripes about
Vista that I think MS need to address urgently, but in building my
machines I expected some of the problems and they are not the fault of
the OS.

I think MS began Vista with some very good ideas and some ideas that
were impractical from the start. I simply think that (Probably against
the advice of developers and following the advice of senior management)
they threw out the good and kept the bad.

Didn't see any problems in the OP that are really dependent on the OS alone.

 

[dennis@home]

<cozzmo1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1188835333.360017.248010@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
> Here is my Vista experience.
>

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As you had a memory problem almost anything could happen.
Have you tried since you fixed the machine?

BTW I have had hardware that exhibited a solid hardware fault with one OS
and not with another.
It took a long time to convince the hardware manufacturer but when I did it
cost them about £1m to fix our hardware, I don't think they fixed the
hardware that had been supplied to others but did issue a software fix that
reduced the chance of it happening.
So just because it happens in one OS and not in another doesn't always mean
its the software, just that it usually is.

 

[cozzmo1@hotmail.com]

> As you had a memory problem almost anything could happen.
> Have you tried since you fixed the machine?
>
I did.



I will answer several posts here.

-------

Vista user, (his name says it all)
I want to relay my experience and I hope it may help others with some
of the same issues.

I shouldn't run AOL or Mcafee?? ,
that I didn't check vista drivers??, (I did)
You must not have read my post.
You said I was "trying to hack the number of connections". (I didn't
actually do this, I just said Vista's greedy limit is the reason that
UTorrent does not work with Vista), I suspect that the hack would have
been eventually necessary.

"And you trying to run software that is not vista compatible from the
manufacture"
Hmm. So I should just buy thousands of dollars to replace good
software for the privilege of having Vista?
The OS is supposed to be for the benefit of running applications not
the other way around?
In the case of Nero 6.3, at the time that I installed it, it was on
Microsoft's list for Vista compatible software and has since been
removed.




Dennis, I had two RAM chips, I ultimately swapped them around and when
I was running only with the bad chip, I had an instantly and
consistently blue screen.
I kept swapping to prove that the port wasn't the problem.
The computer ran fine with only the good chip.
My PC manufacturer. (Magic Micro) was very supportive and sent me 2
new chips with few questions asked. (I sent back the one bad and the
one good chip).

Vista didn't know it was still authentic after that and Microsoft
couldn't fix it.

I could have formatted and put Vista back on and it would have worked.
I opted not to put Vista on, mostly for the incompatibility and
possibly instability issues.
I say instability because the updates and authentication where the
only things that seemed to suffer from the bad ram after the problem
was fixed.

-----------

Frank,

I don't know why some people are so involved with the OS that if
anyone doesn't give rave reviews they take it personally and feel they
have to flame.
I guess they see it as an attack of their religion.
To me it is more of a movie review. You like the movie, I didn't.

------------

Sumer Yamaner,

Thanks,
I didn't realize that indexing can be turned off.
PCworld said that it was "nearly impossible" and I never actually
tried.
hxxp://www.infoworld.com/article/07/06/11/Burden-of-proof-on-Google-in-Vista-antitrust-claim_1.html


--------
Thanks,
Crzzy1

 

[Adam Albright]

On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:00:18 -0700, cozzmo1@hotmail.com wrote:


>Frank,
>
>I don't know why some people are so involved with the OS that if
>anyone doesn't give rave reviews they take it personally and feel they
>have to flame.
>I guess they see it as an attack of their religion.
>To me it is more of a movie review. You like the movie, I didn't.

Frank is in love with Steve Ballmer, Microsoft's CEO. Frank has a life
size blow-up sex doll that he pretends is Steve. If anybody is
critical of Microsoft goofy Frank goes into a blind range thinking
you're attacking his lover Steve.

Frank's lover: http://photos18.flickr.com/24053086_d2284f9e00.jpg

As anyone reading just a few of Frank's posts quickly realizes Frank
has a lot of issues besides being dumb. Mental retardation among them
plus uncontrolled rage. Most fanboys are just a little goofy in their
devotion to Microsoft. Frank has gone over the edge a long time ago
and he quite literally crazy in every sense of the word.

Frank also has a sex toy for his dog:

http://slog.thestranger.com/files/2007/05/hotdoll.jpg

What can I say, Frank as you can figure out for yourself is WEIRD.

 

[Vista User]

<cozzmo1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1188856818.397787.167420@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>
>> As you had a memory problem almost anything could happen.
>> Have you tried since you fixed the machine?
>>
> I did.
>
>
>
> I will answer several posts here.
>
> -------
>
> Vista user, (his name says it all)

Just means I am running Vista. Is that a problem with you?

> I want to relay my experience and I hope it may help others with some
> of the same issues.
>
> I shouldn't run AOL or Mcafee?? ,

Your kidding right? AOL is the worst thing ever written.
Mcafee has had lots of problems on Vista you should have done some research.

> that I didn't check vista drivers??, (I did)

Then if you had installed all the proper drivers you would not have had the
unknown device.

> You must not have read my post.

I did.

> You said I was "trying to hack the number of connections". (I didn't
> actually do this, I just said Vista's greedy limit is the reason that
> UTorrent does not work with Vista), I suspect that the hack would have
> been eventually necessary.

Same limit XP had. Well unless you hacked it.


>
> "And you trying to run software that is not vista compatible from the
> manufacture"
> Hmm. So I should just buy thousands of dollars to replace good
> software for the privilege of having Vista?

If the manufacture says is not compatable then what did you expect?

> The OS is supposed to be for the benefit of running applications not
> the other way around?
> In the case of Nero 6.3, at the time that I installed it, it was on
> Microsoft's list for Vista compatible software and has since been
> removed.
>

If you had checked the Nero site you could have updated the software and it
would have run with no problems.

 

[Rich]

Remember, this is a self described 'cutting edge' guy.

example his comment about 'that aero thingie' simply bleeds ...


Rich


"deception is as much about the comforting the deceiver at making poor
choices as it is about getting you to make your own."

 

[Adam Albright]

On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:45:37 -0700, "Rich" <r.green@comcast.net> wrote:

>Remember, this is a self described 'cutting edge' guy.
>
>example his comment about 'that aero thingie' simply bleeds ...

This newsgroup is filled to overflowing with guys claiming a lot of
things. I laugh at most of them because they keep proving how ignorant
they actually are.

 

[Telstar]

> I think MS began Vista with some very good ideas and some ideas that
> were impractical from the start. I simply think that (Probably against
> the advice of developers and following the advice of senior management)
> they threw out the good and kept the bad.


Now you have it right!

 

[Frank]

Adam Albright wrote:

>
>
> This newsgroup is filled to overflowing with guys claiming a lot of
> things. I laugh at most of them because they keep proving how ignorant
> they actually are.
>

Yeah and you're the leader of that group of know nothing blowhard morons!
Especially when you're stinking falling down drunk...like you appear to
be most all of the time.
Frank

 

[Adam Albright]

On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 18:06:08 -0700, Frank <fb@nospan.crm> wrote:

>Adam Albright wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> This newsgroup is filled to overflowing with guys claiming a lot of
>> things. I laugh at most of them because they keep proving how ignorant
>> they actually are.
>>
>
>Yeah and you're the leader of that group of know nothing blowhard morons!
>Especially when you're stinking falling down drunk...like you appear to
>be most all of the time.
>Frank

You sure seem obsessed with drunks and drinking. That strongly
suggests you are one yourself.

 

[cozzmo1@hotmail.com]

>
> > Vista user, (his name says it all)
>
> Just means I am running Vista. Is that a problem with you?

I suspect you are a shill for Vista. I am relaying a painful
experience with Vista, I gave Vista an honest try. You reply like I am
insulting your religion.
You don't provide any solutions for the real problems that Vista users
have.

>
> > I want to relay my experience and I hope it may help others with some
> > of the same issues.
>
> > I shouldn't run AOL or Mcafee?? ,
>
> Your kidding right? AOL is the worst thing ever written.
> Mcafee has had lots of problems on Vista you should have done some research.

Sigh...
What is your solution. (besides dumping the AOL/Mcafee that my family
has used for decades with no problem until now)

>
> Same limit XP had. Well unless you hacked it.
>

Wrong.
Windows XP SP2 has 10 maximum incomplete concurrent connection
attempts limit per second,
Vista Home Basic has maximum limit of 2.
No matter, you shouldn't need to hack the OS to make your apps work.
Not a problem for everyone, but it is for many.
What alternative solution do you suggest to do to fix the problem?

> > Hmm. So I should just buy thousands of dollars to replace good
> > software for the privilege of having Vista?
>
> If the manufacture says is not compatable then what did you expect?

Unacceptable answer.
What is your solution to the issue here?

>
> > The OS is supposed to be for the benefit of running applications not
> > the other way around?
> > In the case of Nero 6.3, at the time that I installed it, it was on
> > Microsoft's list for Vista compatible software and has since been
> > removed.
>
> If you had checked the Nero site you could have updated the software and it
> would have run with no problems.

At this point I haven't been able to find Nero's free upgrade.
Maybe they'll offer one soon but I doubt it.
I think that Nero wants to sell Nero 7 and 8 which is an unacceptable
solution.
But since you claim to have the answer, show me the solution.
give the link.

I am all ears.
What is the compelling reason to upgrade to Vista?

Crzzy1

 

[GO]

cozzmo1@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> Vista user, (his name says it all)
>>
>> Just means I am running Vista. Is that a problem with you?
>
> I suspect you are a shill for Vista. I am relaying a painful
> experience with Vista, I gave Vista an honest try. You reply like I am
> insulting your religion.
> You don't provide any solutions for the real problems that Vista users
> have.

Welcome to the Vista newsgroup! This is by far the worst group I've ever
seen for this type of behavior, on both sides of the equation: both Vista/MS
lovers and haters. It's really nothing new but I've actually found it
tolerable in the other groups. In fact this is the first time that I've
created rules to block certain posters.

I wish I could help you with your issues but I'm not a big Vista user yet
(and likely never will be at this rate), I have it installed as a second OS
but to date I rarely boot into it.

> What is the compelling reason to upgrade to Vista?

Sadly, none (imo). Vista offers nothing in terms of functionality that
isn't already available to or in XP, though many claim this is false they
have yet to provide any evidence of this.

Cheers,

Greg

 

[Frank]

Adam Albright wrote:

>>Let give you a clue.
>
>
> Still can write worth a sh*t, can you Frank. Your fourth grade
> education is showing.
>
>
>>Never, ever again admit in public that you are a Network Engineer, ok.
>>Cause based on the above post you have no idea what you're doing.
>>Just a piece of friendly advice.
>>Frank
>
>
> This guy sounds real and of course, you weren't able to disprove a
> single thing he mentioned. What's the matter fanboy, cat got your
> tongue? All you can ever do is lie your stinking ass off.
>
> You see Frank, unlike you this guy knows his stuff while you tried to
> fake claiming to be an engineer then being forced to admit all you did
> was solder one stinking little capacitor in place on one damn circuit
> board! What a total putz you always are Frank. A TOTAL putz!
>
> Frank, don't worry, your title of newsgroup clown remains intact.
> While several other dopes have tried recently to dethrone you, I doubt
> anyone will ever take away your title of king of putz since it takes a
> special kind of idiot to be you Frank. Funny thing is, you seem proud
> to be the total a-hole you are.
>

hehehe...hey toilet trash...hahaha...ever get that one simple install of
Vista business running correctly?
Frank

 

[Frank]

Adam Albright wrote:

> On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:00:18 -0700, cozzmo1@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>>Frank,
>>
>>I don't know why some people are so involved with the OS that if
>>anyone doesn't give rave reviews they take it personally and feel they
>>have to flame.
>>I guess they see it as an attack of their religion.
>>To me it is more of a movie review. You like the movie, I didn't.
>
>
> Frank is in love with Steve Ballmer, Microsoft's CEO. Frank has a life
> size blow-up sex doll that he pretends is Steve. If anybody is
> critical of Microsoft goofy Frank goes into a blind range thinking
> you're attacking his lover Steve.
>
> Frank's lover: http://photos18.flickr.com/24053086_d2284f9e00.jpg
>
> As anyone reading just a few of Frank's posts quickly realizes Frank
> has a lot of issues besides being dumb. Mental retardation among them
> plus uncontrolled rage. Most fanboys are just a little goofy in their
> devotion to Microsoft. Frank has gone over the edge a long time ago
> and he quite literally crazy in every sense of the word.
>
> Frank also has a sex toy for his dog:
>
> http://slog.thestranger.com/files/2007/05/hotdoll.jpg
>
> What can I say, Frank as you can figure out for yourself is WEIRD.
>
Hey, mr computer expert...mr genius...mr know-it-all...hahaha...ever
been able, with all your self proclaimed brain power, to get that one
simple, in place (only an idiot like you would do that with an RTM OS)
install of Vista business running correctly?
Oh...I see, it's Microsoft's fault huh...lol!
Yeah, so how's that toilet diatribe, oops...I mean "Manifesto", lol,
coming along huh? Doing a lot "on scene'
research...hahaha...lol...trying to get a real "feel" for the story. Are
we going to see your fat, stupid, drunken ass on TV...in handcuffs...lol!
Loser!
Frank

 

[Frank]

Vista User wrote:

>
> <cozzmo1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1188856818.397787.167420@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>
>>
>>> As you had a memory problem almost anything could happen.
>>> Have you tried since you fixed the machine?
>>>
>> I did.
>>
>>
>>
>> I will answer several posts here.
>>
>> -------
>>
>> Vista user, (his name says it all)
>
>
> Just means I am running Vista. Is that a problem with you?
>
>> I want to relay my experience and I hope it may help others with some
>> of the same issues.
>>
>> I shouldn't run AOL or Mcafee?? ,
>
>
> Your kidding right? AOL is the worst thing ever written.
> Mcafee has had lots of problems on Vista you should have done some
> research.
>
>> that I didn't check vista drivers??, (I did)
>
>
> Then if you had installed all the proper drivers you would not have had
> the unknown device.
>
>> You must not have read my post.
>
>
> I did.
>
>> You said I was "trying to hack the number of connections". (I didn't
>> actually do this, I just said Vista's greedy limit is the reason that
>> UTorrent does not work with Vista), I suspect that the hack would have
>> been eventually necessary.
>
>
> Same limit XP had. Well unless you hacked it.
>
>
>>
>> "And you trying to run software that is not vista compatible from the
>> manufacture"
>> Hmm. So I should just buy thousands of dollars to replace good
>> software for the privilege of having Vista?
>
>
> If the manufacture says is not compatable then what did you expect?
>
>> The OS is supposed to be for the benefit of running applications not
>> the other way around?
>> In the case of Nero 6.3, at the time that I installed it, it was on
>> Microsoft's list for Vista compatible software and has since been
>> removed.
>>
>
> If you had checked the Nero site you could have updated the software and
> it would have run with no problems.
>
>
>
Nah...no need to check anything...cause he's a "Network Engineer" remember?
Frank