My Vista Experience.

[Charlie Wilkes]

On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 09:02:13 -0700, cozzmo1 wrote:
>
> My question is... How is everyone so OK with this?? Am I going mad, is
> it just me?
> Where is everyone with similar issues? Why does PCWorld and all the
> other publications keep gushing about how good this product is?
> What is the reason, Is there any compelling reason for anyone to get
> Vista in the first place?

Interesting writeup. I don't know about PCWorld, but numerous blogs and
online technical publications are warning people not to switch to Vista
yet, because of the kinds of problems you have experienced. But some
people are using Vista without problems, and others continue to swear by
it even when it causes them a lot of trouble.

I suspect that behind the rosy press releases, Microsoft is mounting an
insane effort to get Vista fixed ASAP. A year from now, new computers
with Vista pre-loaded will probably work fine.

BUT, that doesn't necessarily mean there is, or ever will be, a
compelling reason to get Vista... and that's really the single biggest
"problem" with Vista, IMO. Microsoft's customers will spend a lot of
money and suffer a lot of aggravation, just to get back to the level of
performance they took for granted with XP.

Charlie

 

[DanS]

Frank <fb@nospan.crm> wrote in
news:#OFngeq7HHA.1900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:


>>
> Nah...no need to check anything...cause he's a "Network Engineer"
> remember? Frank

I'm sure he's at least as much a "Network Engineer" as you are a "Field
Engineer".

 

[DanS]

cozzmo1@hotmail.com wrote in
news:1188871421.132819.165090@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com:

>>
>> > Vista user, (his name says it all)
>>
>> Just means I am running Vista. Is that a problem with you?
>
> I suspect you are a shill for Vista. I am relaying a painful
> experience with Vista, I gave Vista an honest try. You reply like I am
> insulting your religion.
> You don't provide any solutions for the real problems that Vista users
> have.

Well cozzmo, many here are Vista lovers. While they love and defend it,
they don't offer much technical help, if any.

What you need to do if you are actually looking for help here is post a
question, with a subject that includes the question as well. Better yet,
see if there's a more specific group for your question (if you had one).

I understand that you hadn't asked a question on how to fix something,
and what happens is when you make a post like yours, all the MS fanbois
come out of the closet and reply to you telling you Vista is the future,
it's your fault for not researching enough, it's different than XP,
therefore, this is the best one, 'you have to learn how to use Vista
properly'...the list goes on and on.

If you look thru this newsgroup, you'll notice that posts written as I
described before, with an actual single question, get replies that
actually _try_ to help. Posts that are venting frustrations about Vista
are not welcome here to the fanbois. Unfortunately, there aren't a lot
that have a thorough enough knowledge of Vista here, as this is a general
group.

 

[Vista User]

<cozzmo1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1188871421.132819.165090@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
> >
>> > Vista user, (his name says it all)
>>
>> Just means I am running Vista. Is that a problem with you?
>
> I suspect you are a shill for Vista. I am relaying a painful
> experience with Vista, I gave Vista an honest try. You reply like I am
> insulting your religion.
> You don't provide any solutions for the real problems that Vista users
> have.
>
>>
>> > I want to relay my experience and I hope it may help others with some
>> > of the same issues.
>>
>> > I shouldn't run AOL or Mcafee?? ,
>>
>> Your kidding right? AOL is the worst thing ever written.
>> Mcafee has had lots of problems on Vista you should have done some
>> research.
>
> Sigh...
> What is your solution. (besides dumping the AOL/Mcafee that my family
> has used for decades with no problem until now)
>
>>
>> Same limit XP had. Well unless you hacked it.
>>
>
> Wrong.
> Windows XP SP2 has 10 maximum incomplete concurrent connection
> attempts limit per second,
> Vista Home Basic has maximum limit of 2.
> No matter, you shouldn't need to hack the OS to make your apps work.
> Not a problem for everyone, but it is for many.
> What alternative solution do you suggest to do to fix the problem?
>
>> > Hmm. So I should just buy thousands of dollars to replace good
>> > software for the privilege of having Vista?
>>
>> If the manufacture says is not compatable then what did you expect?
>
> Unacceptable answer.
> What is your solution to the issue here?
>
>>
>> > The OS is supposed to be for the benefit of running applications not
>> > the other way around?
>> > In the case of Nero 6.3, at the time that I installed it, it was on
>> > Microsoft's list for Vista compatible software and has since been
>> > removed.
>>
>> If you had checked the Nero site you could have updated the software and
>> it
>> would have run with no problems.
>
> At this point I haven't been able to find Nero's free upgrade.
> Maybe they'll offer one soon but I doubt it.
> I think that Nero wants to sell Nero 7 and 8 which is an unacceptable
> solution.
> But since you claim to have the answer, show me the solution.
> give the link.
>
> I am all ears.
> What is the compelling reason to upgrade to Vista?
>
> Crzzy1
>

Is it that hard for you to go to Http://www.nero.com and click on
"downloads" and select the "Update" wow must have taken me a whole minute to
find it.

Please stick with XP as Vista is way over your head.

 

[Adam Albright]

On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 07:59:59 -0700, "Vista User"
<VistaRules@NoSpam.net> wrote:

>Please stick with XP as Vista is way over your head.

That's so damn funny coming from a jerk that clearly has his head
firmly up Microsoft's rear. You moronic Vista fanboys are a riot to
read. Honest.

This space reserved for the king of putz, aka Frankie numbnuts to
squeal and whine something stupid. =====>

 

[Vista User]

Feel better after you typical rant.


"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
news:951rd35gi93kobb4c5flu4i1brnau2c0c5@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 07:59:59 -0700, "Vista User"
> <VistaRules@NoSpam.net> wrote:
>
>>Please stick with XP as Vista is way over your head.
>
> That's so damn funny coming from a jerk that clearly has his head
> firmly up Microsoft's rear. You moronic Vista fanboys are a riot to
> read. Honest.
>
> This space reserved for the king of putz, aka Frankie numbnuts to
> squeal and whine something stupid. =====>
>
>

 

[Adam Albright]

On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 09:30:38 -0700, "Vista User"
<VistaRules@NoSpam.net> wrote:

>Feel better after you typical rant.

Can't take the truth can you.

 

[Vista User]

Sure I can I have just never heard it from you yet.


"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
news:3q2rd3pqqssr49o6faatm1g0ptv1m8vnhs@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 09:30:38 -0700, "Vista User"
> <VistaRules@NoSpam.net> wrote:
>
>>Feel better after you typical rant.
>
> Can't take the truth can you.
>

 

[Frank]

DanS wrote:

> Frank <fb@nospan.crm> wrote in
> news:#OFngeq7HHA.1900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:
>
>
>
>>Nah...no need to check anything...cause he's a "Network Engineer"
>>remember? Frank
>
>
> I'm sure he's at least as much a "Network Engineer" as you are a "Field
> Engineer".

hehehe...sorry dan'o, but our Vista Ultimate installs, all nine of them,
are running just fine.
And oh, btw, I'm personally running the latest, Vista compatible version
of Nero.
Is that too complicated for you to understand?
Frank

 

[DanS]

>>>Nah...no need to check anything...cause he's a "Network Engineer"
>>>remember? Frank
>>
>>
>> I'm sure he's at least as much a "Network Engineer" as you are a
"Field
>> Engineer".
>
> hehehe...sorry dan'o, but our Vista Ultimate installs, all nine of
them,
> are running just fine.

Good for you.

> And oh, btw, I'm personally running the latest, Vista compatible
version
> of Nero.

Whoopeeeeeeeeee !!!!!

> Is that too complicated for you to understand?

No. Neither are you.

 

[Rich]

> This newsgroup is filled to overflowing with guys claiming a lot of
> things. I laugh at most of them because they keep proving how ignorant
> they actually are.

I agree, you just hit the nail on the head .. heh


Rich

 

[cozzmo1@hotmail.com]

On Sep 4, 10:59 am, "Vista User" <VistaRu...@NoSpam.net> wrote:
> <cozz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1188871421.132819.165090@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> >> >Vistauser, (his name says it all)
>
> >> Just means I am runningVista. Is that a problem with you?
>
> > I suspect you are a shill forVista. I am relaying a painful
> > experience withVista, I gaveVistaan honest try. You reply like I am
> > insulting your religion.
> > You don't provide any solutions for the real problems thatVistausers
> > have.
>
> >> > I want to relay my experience and I hope it may help others with some
> >> > of the same issues.
>
> >> > I shouldn't run AOL or Mcafee?? ,
>
> >> Your kidding right? AOL is the worst thing ever written.
> >> Mcafee has had lots of problems onVistayou should have done some
> >> research.
>
> > Sigh...
> > What is your solution. (besides dumping the AOL/Mcafee that my family
> > has used for decades with no problem until now)
>
> >> Same limit XP had. Well unless you hacked it.
>
> > Wrong.
> > Windows XP SP2 has 10 maximum incomplete concurrent connection
> > attempts limit per second,
> >VistaHome Basic has maximum limit of 2.
> > No matter, you shouldn't need to hack the OS to make your apps work.
> > Not a problem for everyone, but it is for many.
> > What alternative solution do you suggest to do to fix the problem?
>
> >> > Hmm. So I should just buy thousands of dollars to replace good
> >> > software for the privilege of havingVista?
>
> >> If the manufacture says is not compatable then what did you expect?
>
> > Unacceptable answer.
> > What is your solution to the issue here?
>
> >> > The OS is supposed to be for the benefit of running applications not
> >> > the other way around?
> >> > In the case of Nero 6.3, at the time that I installed it, it was on
> >> > Microsoft's list forVistacompatible software and has since been
> >> > removed.
>
> >> If you had checked the Nero site you could have updated the software and
> >> it
> >> would have run with no problems.
>
> > At this point I haven't been able to find Nero's free upgrade.
> > Maybe they'll offer one soon but I doubt it.
> > I think that Nero wants to sell Nero 7 and 8 which is an unacceptable
> > solution.
> > But since you claim to have the answer, show me the solution.
> > give the link.
>
> > I am all ears.
> > What is the compelling reason to upgrade toVista?
>
> >Crzzy1
>
> Is it that hard for you to go to Http://www.nero.comand click on
> "downloads" and select the "Update" wow must have taken me a whole minute to
> find it.
>
> Please stick with XP asVistais way over your head.

No need for the flame.

I will admit when I have made an inaccurate post, will you?
Do you really know that you can get Nero 6.x to work with Vista or are
you just saying this?

I went to Nero's site, it will allow an upgrade to nero 6.6 which is
not Vista capable.
In other words, you need to spend to replace your software with 7.0 or
8.

# Microsoft ® Windows 98/98SE Windows 2000 (service pack 4 or later)
Windows XP Windows 2003 server
# Microsoft® Windows XP Professional x64 Edition

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Nero 6.6 Ultra works with Windows Vista as it did with all the later
Beta versions of Windows Vista.

What I did:
Copy the Nero CD to the hard drive and install from there.
Open Nero StartSmart.
Click "Nero Product Center" button.
Click the "Check now" button.
You are informed which modules you need. with an option to download
some or all.

I downloaded, saved them all and burned them to CD.

I get some error messages when opening Nero 6, but I can burn data,
ISOs, view DVDs etc.
Eventually I will replace with something compatible with Windows
Vista, but for now Nero 6 works.

Also see:
http://www.nero.com/enu/catalog.html?NeroSID=3677b557ef35f1a13d595c47c1fb040f

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


<cozzmo1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 4, 10:59 am, "Vista User" <VistaRu...@NoSpam.net> wrote:
> <cozz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
No need for the flame.

I will admit when I have made an inaccurate post, will you?
Do you really know that you can get Nero 6.x to work with Vista or are
you just saying this?

I went to Nero's site, it will allow an upgrade to nero 6.6 which is
not Vista capable.
In other words, you need to spend to replace your software with 7.0 or
8.

# Microsoft ® Windows 98/98SE Windows 2000 (service pack 4 or later)
Windows XP Windows 2003 server
# Microsoft® Windows XP Professional x64 Edition

 

[Vista User]

Yes Nero 6.6 will work with Vista its just not supported and the INCD will
not work. But you can burn CD's

Have you tried it?

<cozzmo1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1188944077.391852.256940@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 4, 10:59 am, "Vista User" <VistaRu...@NoSpam.net> wrote:
No need for the flame.

I will admit when I have made an inaccurate post, will you?
Do you really know that you can get Nero 6.x to work with Vista or are
you just saying this?

I went to Nero's site, it will allow an upgrade to nero 6.6 which is
not Vista capable.
In other words, you need to spend to replace your software with 7.0 or
8.

# Microsoft ® Windows 98/98SE Windows 2000 (service pack 4 or later)
Windows XP Windows 2003 server
# Microsoft® Windows XP Professional x64 Edition

 

[cozzmo1@hotmail.com]

On Sep 4, 10:59 am, "Vista User" <VistaRu...@NoSpam.net> wrote:
> <cozz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1188871421.132819.165090@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>



I have another potential Limitation/Feature to add to my Vista list
which is based purely on my personal experience.
(Note: this list is for the benefit other Vista users out there that
may be able to take advantage of my time spent in toiling with
compatibility issues with while using Vista )

I could not run an ISO file from the hard-drive while I was using
Vista. A friend of mine at work is now having the same problem so it
seems to be Vista specific.

I couldn't get "alcohol 52" virtual CD to work while using
Vista.
A buddy also complained that he couldn't find any way to run an
ISO file from the hard-drive with Vista.
Has anyone ever gotten this to work, or is it a really bad Vista
limitation?


-------------------
Below: I consolidated and added notes to my list to be more Vista
specific.


On Sep 3, 12:02 pm, cozz...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Annoyance.
> You can't turn off Vista's indexing function in order to install Googles desktop search.

NOTE: I may have been wrong.
Apparently, this will turn it off.
type "Services" at the (Start Search bar), right click on the Windows
Search service and select "Properties". Then choose "Disabled" for the
start type. Afterwards, you have to stop this service by right
clicking on it and selecting "Stop".

>
> ---------
> Problem:
>
> AOL email crashes in mozilla and the client crashes, email only worked
> using IE.
> AOL Error Code: C0FE1702
> AOL 9.0VR (VistaReady), (Worked for a while)
> Then my son put on i-tunes for his IPOD. (AOL started to crash
> progressivly over the next week),
snip
>
> FIX:
> I uninstalled itunes and that fixed the problem until my son re-installed
> it, with a newer version that still didn't help, (AOL+VISTA+itunes=AOL
> Crashing).
>
> Note: AOL was not completely fixed as it would always disco
> occasionally after that.
NOTE: I went back to XP and this never reoccurred.
>
> ---------
> Anoyance:
> The screen kept going momentarily black whenever I loaded a program
> with the annoying button asking if I was sure I wanted to run the
> program.
>
> FIX:
> I turned off UAC (user account control) to speed things up.
> Told that it could be a security hole though.
> ---------
> Problem
> Mcafee will not install onVista.
>
> FIX.
> To install my retail mcafee onvista.http://us.mcafee.com/vista/
>
> run sticker_update_1_2.exe
> Be sure to keep your McAfee product CD that was included in the box.
> You will need this CD for authentication to add theVista-compatible
> upgrade.
>
> Note: Mcafee seems to run faster in XP
>
> --------
> Problem:
>
> I could not access the C:/ drive on my newVISTAfrom my XP machine.
> (just other subfolders)
> Getting "not permitted" error.
> \\COMPUTER\c$ is not accessible. You might not have permission to use
> this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to
> find out if you have access permissions.
>
> >From other web site, but this is the overly complex workaround.
>
> HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System and add
> a new DWORD labeled "LocalAccountTokenFilterPolicy" and set it's value
> to 1.
>
> Reboot
>
> I also had to R-click C: do "advanced sharing" add "everyone and
> annonymous login" and give them full permissions. (even though I did
> it before I had tweaked the registry).
>
> ------------
> Problem:
> unidentified device. "Yellow "?" in the device manager.
> error " WindowsVistadoes not support MPU-401 Compatible
> MIDI Device"
> When I remove the unidentified device.
>
> Never fixed until I installed XP, then it went away.
> -----
> Problem:
> Printer extremely slow.
> HP PSC 1310 All-in-One series printer,
>
> Trying to print from myVistaPC to the printer that is on my XP box.
> ?? tried updating the driver on xp and also installed driver on the
> remotevistapc.
> Nothing worked.
>
> Cause:
> HP will do nothing to fix the problem and I am not about to Buy a new
> Printer just because HP will not ever make an XP driver that is alsoVistafriendly.
>
> FIX:
> DitchedVista (Works great on XP)
> ---------
>
> Problem:
> Second Copy won't take my registration code.
> Thus I was stuck with the one month trial.
> FIX:
> DitchedVista
> --------
> Problem:
> Utorrent downloads don't work. (Yes there are legitimate uses)
>
> FIX:Vista has a greedy limit on TCP connections.
> There is a crack for the "TCP concurrent connection limit in Vista".
> but MS should have made it easier to adjust that.
>
> This seems to work ok using XP.
> --------
> Problem:
> Adobe premier 6.5 and MainConcept.
> Not sure which, but when I render a video to MPEG2 now the resulting
> video has a bad sound track that is out of sync with the video. this
> results in Jerky DVD's and is a major issue for me.
> The output MPEG 2 video (according to AVICodec) is intermittently
> flawed.
>
Problem resolved after reverting to XP
> -----
> Problem,
> Entrust encryption software (Client Software: Entrust Entelligence
> 6.1SP1)
> Not Vista capable.
> No workaround.
> (this will at least keep my office from embracing Vista for a while)
> ------
> Problem,
>
> Nero 6.3, (this was on the MS site as a compatible product)
> When installing, there was a warning that this was Vista incompatible,
> and I chose to install anyway. Nero didn't work.
> but worse, the DVD Drive completely vanished from my explorer!!
>
> FIX: None,
> I had to do a rollback to a previous time.
> Uninstalled Nero. to this date, Nero of any flavor does not withVista.
NOTE: this didn't work for me, but others say that Nero 6.x has
limited functionality.
Nero's official stance, upgrade to version 7 or 8.
> --------
> Problem:
> Sonic My-DVD, simply does not work withVista.
> Cannot install or run.
>
> Workaround: None, but...
> I bought Video Show Expressions. This worked, but was really not as
> good as Sonic and it doesn't take elementary streams for video input
> like Sonic does.
> So now I have sunk more money into theVistaincompatibility issue for
> lesser software.
> -----
> Problem
> Office XP, (office assistant)
> You only get the paper clip, none of the other helper buddies work. no
> dog/Cat/Wizard.
> I didn't try all the other features, but Word/Excel worked ok.
>
> I guess Microsoft wants me to buy the new office
> --------
> Problem:
> Age of Empires/Conquerors expansion.
> My favorite Game and it's by Microsoft, so it should work. (NOT)
> You can't see any of the help files to see what units cost of what you
> civilizations strengths/weaknesses are.
>Verified using another VistaPC also.

 

[cozzmo1@hotmail.com]

--------
I have another potential Limitation/Feature to add to my Vista list
which is based purely on my personal experience.
(Note: this list is for the benefit other Vista users out there that
may be able to take advantage of my time spent in toiling with
compatibility issues with while using Vista )

I could not run an ISO file from the hard-drive while I was using
Vista.
I was trying to use "alcohol 52" virtual CD to work while using
Vista, (BTW, it works great with XP).
A buddy also complained that he couldn't find any way to run an
ISO file from the hard-drive with Vista.
Has anyone ever gotten this to work, or is it a really bad Vista
limitation?


-------------------
Below: I consolidated and added notes to my list to be more Vista
specific.


On Sep 3, 12:02 pm, cozz...@hotmail.com wrote:
* Annoyance.
* You can't turn off Vista's indexing function in order to install
Googles desktop search.

NOTE: I may have been wrong.
Apparently, this will turn it off.
type "Services" at the (Start Search bar), right click on the Windows
Search service and select "Properties". Then choose "Disabled" for the
start type. Afterwards, you have to stop this service by right
clicking on it and selecting "Stop".

*
* ---------
* Problem:
*
* AOL email crashes in mozilla and the client crashes, email only
worked
* using IE.
* AOL Error Code: C0FE1702
* AOL 9.0VR (VistaReady), (Worked for a while)
* Then my son put on i-tunes for his IPOD. (AOL started to crash
* progressivly over the next week),
snip
*
* FIX:
* I uninstalled itunes and that fixed the problem until my son re-
installed
* it, with a newer version that still didn't help, (AOL+VISTA
+itunes=AOL
* Crashing).
*
* Note: AOL was not completely fixed as it would always disco
* occasionally after that.
NOTE: I went back to XP and this never reoccurred.
*
* ---------
* Anoyance:
* The screen kept going momentarily black whenever I loaded a program
* with the annoying button asking if I was sure I wanted to run the
* program.
*
* FIX:
* I turned off UAC (user account control) to speed things up.
* Told that it could be a security hole though.
* ---------
* Problem
* Mcafee will not install onVista.
*
* FIX.
* To install my retail mcafee onvista.http://us.mcafee.com/vista/
*
* run sticker_update_1_2.exe
* Be sure to keep your McAfee product CD that was included in the box.
* You will need this CD for authentication to add theVista-compatible
* upgrade.
*
* Note: Mcafee seems to run faster in XP
*
* --------
* Problem:
*
* I could not access the C:/ drive on my newVISTAfrom my XP machine.
* (just other subfolders)
* Getting "not permitted" error.
* \\COMPUTER\c$ is not accessible. You might not have permission to
use
* this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to
* find out if you have access permissions.
*
* *From other web site, but this is the overly complex workaround.
*
* HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System and
add
* a new DWORD labeled "LocalAccountTokenFilterPolicy" and set it's
value
* to 1.
*
* Reboot
*
* I also had to R-click C: do "advanced sharing" add "everyone and
* annonymous login" and give them full permissions. (even though I did
* it before I had tweaked the registry).
*
* ------------
* Problem:
* unidentified device. "Yellow "?" in the device manager.
* error " WindowsVistadoes not support MPU-401 Compatible
* MIDI Device"
* When I remove the unidentified device.
*
* Never fixed until I installed XP, then it went away.
* -----
* Problem:
* Printer extremely slow.
* HP PSC 1310 All-in-One series printer,
*
* Trying to print from myVistaPC to the printer that is on my XP box.
* ?? tried updating the driver on xp and also installed driver on the
* remotevistapc.
* Nothing worked.
*
* Cause:
* HP will do nothing to fix the problem and I am not about to Buy a
new
* Printer just because HP will not ever make an XP driver that is
alsoVistafriendly.
*
* FIX:
* DitchedVista (Works great on XP)
* ---------
*
* Problem:
* Second Copy won't take my registration code.
* Thus I was stuck with the one month trial.
* FIX:
* DitchedVista
* --------
* Problem:
* Utorrent downloads don't work. (Yes there are legitimate uses)
*
* FIX:Vista has a greedy limit on TCP connections.
* There is a crack for the "TCP concurrent connection limit in Vista".
* but MS should have made it easier to adjust that.
*
* This seems to work ok using XP.
* --------
* Problem:
* Adobe premier 6.5 and MainConcept.
* Not sure which, but when I render a video to MPEG2 now the resulting
* video has a bad sound track that is out of sync with the video. this
* results in Jerky DVD's and is a major issue for me.
* The output MPEG 2 video (according to AVICodec) is intermittently
* flawed.
*
Problem resolved after reverting to XP
* -----
* Problem,
* Entrust encryption software (Client Software: Entrust Entelligence
* 6.1SP1)
* Not Vista capable.
* No workaround.
* (this will at least keep my office from embracing Vista for a while)
* ------
* Problem,
*
* Nero 6.3, (this was on the MS site as a compatible product)
* When installing, there was a warning that this was Vista
incompatible,
* and I chose to install anyway. Nero didn't work.
* but worse, the DVD Drive completely vanished from my explorer!!
*
* FIX: None,
* I had to do a rollback to a previous time.
* Uninstalled Nero. to this date, Nero of any flavor does not
withVista.
NOTE: this didn't work for me, but others say that Nero 6.x has
limited functionality.
Nero's official stance, upgrade to version 7 or 8.
* --------
* Problem:
* Sonic My-DVD, simply does not work withVista.
* Cannot install or run.
*
* Workaround: None, but...
* I bought Video Show Expressions. This worked, but was really not as
* good as Sonic and it doesn't take elementary streams for video input
* like Sonic does.
* So now I have sunk more money into theVistaincompatibility issue for
* lesser software.
* -----
* Problem
* Office XP, (office assistant)
* You only get the paper clip, none of the other helper buddies work.
no
* dog/Cat/Wizard.
* I didn't try all the other features, but Word/Excel worked ok.
*
* I guess Microsoft wants me to buy the new office
* --------
* Problem:
* Age of Empires/Conquerors expansion.
* My favorite Game and it's by Microsoft, so it should work. (NOT)
* You can't see any of the help files to see what units cost of what
you
* civilizations strengths/weaknesses are.
*Verified using another VistaPC also.

 

[NANDAKUMAR]

i have a problem with my vista
when i tried to uninstall nero 7 from my pc halfway itself it stopped
so i couldn't uninstall properly

can u help me to unistall it?
i would like to remove from the registry itself!

"cozzmo1@hotmail.com" wrote:

>
> Here is my Vista experience.
>
> As a Network Engineer I have worked with many hundreds of PC's with
> multiple OS's.
> Early May, I got a new Family PC.
> Being the cutting edge Guy I went with Vista all the way.
> I got a new custom PC, 500 Gig HD, 2-Gig RAM, The motherboard (ASRock
> 775Dual-Vista) even has Vista in its name.
> I just wanted to be sure everything was compatible.
>
> Vista (OEM 32-bit Home) installed nicely and after a little while I
> was able to navigate it pretty easily. I liked the aero thingy, but
> couldn't see much that XP didn't already provide.
>
> It wasn't until I started installing and using my programs that I
> realized what a draining process it would be. I simply had to learn
> first hand how ugly and really frustrating an OS could be.
>
> ---------
> Annoyance.
> Find: Not nearly as good as PCWorld makes it sound.
> I like google desktop search much better, but you can't turn off
> Vista's indexing fuction.
> This makes it a bad choice to use Googles search and have 2 such
> processes running.
> Googles sidebar is exactly the same as the one that comes with Vista.
>
> ---------
> Problem:
>
> AOL email crashes in mozilla and the client crashes, email only worked
> using IE.
> AOL Error Code: C0FE1702
> AOL 9.0VR (Vista Ready), (Worked for a while)
> Then my son put on i-tunes for his IPOD. (AOL started to crash
> progressivly over the next week),
> I tried these:
> uninstalled mcafee
> uninstalled aol,
> printer driver
> reload.
>
> FIX:
> I uninstalled itunes and that fixed the problem until he re-installed
> it, with a newer version that still didn't help, (AOL+VISTA+itunes=AOL
> Crashing).
>
> Note: AOL was not completly fixed as it would always disco
> occasionally after that.
>
> ---------
> Anoyance:
> The screen kept going momentarily black whenever I loaded a program
> with the annoying button asking if I was sure I wanted to run the
> program.
>
> FIX:
> I turned off UAC (user account control) to speed things up.
> Told that it could be a security hole though.
> ---------
> Problem
> Mcafee will not install on Vista.
>
> FIX.
> To install my retail mcafee on vista.
> http://us.mcafee.com/vista/
>
> run sticker_update_1_2.exe
> Be sure to keep your McAfee product CD that was included in the box.
> You will need this CD for authentication to add the Vista-compatible
> upgrade.
>
> Note: Mcafee seems to run faster in XP
>
> --------
> Problem:
>
> I could not access the C:/ drive on my new VISTA from my XP machine.
> (just other subfolders)
> Getting "not permitted" error.
> \\COMPUTER\c$ is not accessible. You might not have permission to use
> this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to
> find out if you have access permissions.
>
> >From other web site, but this is the overly complex workaround.
> HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System and add
> a new DWORD labeled "LocalAccountTokenFilterPolicy" and set it's value
> to 1.
>
> Reboot
>
> I also had to R-click C: do "advanced sharing" add "everyone and
> annonymous login" and give them full permissions. (even though I did
> it before I had tweaked the registry).
>
> ------------
> Problem:
> unidentified device. "Yellow "?" in the device manager.
> Still get error " Windows Vista does not support MPU-401 Compatible
> MIDI Device"
> When I remove the unidentified device.
>
> Never fixed until I installed XP, then it went away.
> -----
> Problem:
> Printer extremely slow.
> HP PSC 1310 All-in-One series printer,
>
> Trying to print from my Vista PC to the printer that is on my XP box.
> ?? tried updating the driver on xp and also installed driver on the
> remote vista pc.
> Nothing worked.
>
> Cause:
> HP will do nothing to fix the problem and I am not about to Buy a new
> Printer just because HP will not ever make an XP driver that is also
> Vista friendly.
>
> FIX:
> Ditched Vista (Works great on XP)
> ---------
>
> Problem:
> Second Copy won't take my registration code.
> Thus I was stuck with the one month trial.
> FIX:
> Ditched Vista
> --------
> Problem:
> Utorrent downloads don't work. (Yes there are legitimate uses)
>
> FIX:
> Vista has a greedy limit on TCP connections.
> There is a crack for the "TCP concurrent connection limit in Vista".
> but MS should have made it easier to adjust that.
>
> This seems to work ok using XP.
> --------
> Problem:
> Adobe premier 6.5 and MainConcept.
> Not sure which, but when I render a video to MPEG2 now the resulting
> video has a bad sound track that is out of sync with the video. this
> results in Jerky DVD's and is a major issue for me.
> The output MPEG 2 video (according to AVICodec) is intermittently
> flawed.
>
> -----
> Problem,
> Entrust encryption software (Client Software: Entrust Entelligence
> 6.1SP1)
> Not Vista capable.
> No workaround.
> (this will at least keep my office from embracing Vista for a while)
> ------
> Problem,
>
> Nero 6.3, (this was on the MS site as a compatible product)
> When installing, there was a warning that this was Vista incompatible,
> and I chose to install anyway. Nero didn't work.
> but worse, the DVD Drive completly vanished from my explorer!!
>
> FIX: None,
> I had to do a rollback to a previous time.
> Uninstalled Nero. to this date, Nero of any flavor does not with
> Vista.
> --------
> Problem:
> Sonic My-DVD, simply does not work with Vista.
> Cannot install or run.
>
> Workaround: None, but...
> I bought Video Show Expressions. This worked, but was really not as
> good as Sonic and it doesn't take elementary streams for video input
> like Sonic does.
> So now I have sunk more money into the Vista incompatibility issue for
> lesser software.
> -----
> Problem
> Office XP, (office assistant)
> You only get the paper clip, none of the other helper buddies work. no
> dog/Cat/Wizard.
> I didn't try all the other features, but Word/Excel worked ok.
>
> I guess Microsoft wants me to buy the new office
> --------
> Problem:
> Age of Empires/Conquerors expansion.
> My favorite Game and it's by Microsoft, so it should work. (NOT)
> You can't see any of the help files to see what units cost of what you
> civilizations strengths/weakneses are.
> I Verifeid this also using another Vista PC also.
>
> ------
> Problem: (this time HW related)
> after a few months and countless hours dealing with the above Vista
> Annoyances.
> I had a real HW problem.
>
> Symptoms:
> 07/31
> Crashed BSOD (Blue Screen of Death), while surfing walmart.com
> Problem signature:
> Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
> OS Version: 6.0.6000.2.0.0.768.3
>
> I restored the PC back to the (07/23/07)
> Didn't work, still getting an inconsistent BSOD.
>
> I put in a new 300 gig HD thinking that that was the problem, I
> reinstalled Vista on that, but before ever connecting to the internet,
> I was getting the BSOD.
>
> To make a very long story short.
> 08/05/07 Problem solved, I found and removed a bad 1 GIG RAM chip.
> Now the PC was working with the original HD and everything looked the
> same but it wasnt'.
>
> -------
> Problem.
> Issue that arose probably as a result of the nasty crashed with the
> bad RAM chip.
> windows update is no longer working. (all the other stuff seems to
> work though)
> error,
> "Windows could not search for new update"
> WindowsUpdate_C0150004 WindowsUpdate_dt000
>
> Tried
> Rename the C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution folder, but didn't work.
>
> I Called Microsoft support. @800-936-5700 and got a tech named S.
> Boopath, He was actually very dilligent and I don't hold him
> personally responsible.
> This is actually a call that lasted 5 hours the first day and then
> took place for a couple of hours the next day only to end with a
> completely innoperative PC.
>
> The tech sent me an automatic decoder tool.
> and I emailed him the output data so that he could go over that.
>
> He Called back several hours later, He then logged in via remote
> desktop.
> This allows him to take total control of my PC, move the mouse and
> type.
>
> He stopped a bunch of processes and renamed a bunch of files.
> such as windows/system32/catroot and windows/SoftwareDistribution
> then restarted.
> The PC now came up with a black screen.
> after many unsuccessful attempts to revert by using the Vista-DVD, and
> calling back the next day to see if we could fix this.
> He said we would need to reformat and reinstall Vista.
> I had to save my Data still and was able to get a DOS prompt using the
> "repair reinstall" option on the DVD.
> I put on that extra HD from earlier and made a careful batch file
> using "xcopy /S /H /E /Y"
>
> At this point I gave up.
>
> I told the MS Tech that if I was going to reformat my HD, there was no
> way Vista would ever go back on this machine.
>
> He appologized and basically admitted that "this is a problem that is
> Vista specific, meaning it wouldn't have happened on XP. and he said
> that a lot of the software/HW manufacturers just aren't on the
> bandwagon yet with Vista"
>
> I then threw in the towel and ordered a new copy of XP.
> There is no way I will put Vista back on.
>
> -------
> So here I am with an expensive OEM Vista that I don't use.
> I have bought several programs to replace Vista incompatible programs
> and I suspect that I put 60-80 hours into the learning and
> troubleshooting process.
>
> My XP works great on my "ASRock 775Dual-Vista" and even threads the
> dual processors really well.
> Not just some but all of the above issues where completely resolved
> once I put on XP.
>
> My question is... How is everyone so OK with this??
> Am I going mad, is it just me?
> Where is everyone with similar issues?
> Why does PCWorld and all the other publications keep gushing about how
> good this product is?
> What is the reason, Is there any compelling reason for anyone to get
> Vista in the first place?
>
> Thanks,
> Crzzy1
> (Just for the record, Vista Sucks)
>
>

 

[Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]]

Nero 8 Cleantool:
http://www.nero.com/eng/support-nero8-tools-utilities.html

This will properly remove NERO 7 from the system.
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E8E5CC039D51E3DB!9709.entry
"NANDAKUMAR" <NANDAKUMAR@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:934124A7-348F-435F-87A5-FFE8C2284ABE@microsoft.com...
>i have a problem with my vista
> when i tried to uninstall nero 7 from my pc halfway itself it stopped
> so i couldn't uninstall properly
>
> can u help me to unistall it?
> i would like to remove from the registry itself!
>
> "cozzmo1@hotmail.com" wrote:
>
>>
>> Here is my Vista experience.
>>
>> As a Network Engineer I have worked with many hundreds of PC's with
>> multiple OS's.
>> Early May, I got a new Family PC.
>> Being the cutting edge Guy I went with Vista all the way.
>> I got a new custom PC, 500 Gig HD, 2-Gig RAM, The motherboard (ASRock
>> 775Dual-Vista) even has Vista in its name.
>> I just wanted to be sure everything was compatible.
>>
>> Vista (OEM 32-bit Home) installed nicely and after a little while I
>> was able to navigate it pretty easily. I liked the aero thingy, but
>> couldn't see much that XP didn't already provide.
>>
>> It wasn't until I started installing and using my programs that I
>> realized what a draining process it would be. I simply had to learn
>> first hand how ugly and really frustrating an OS could be.
>>
>> ---------
>> Annoyance.
>> Find: Not nearly as good as PCWorld makes it sound.
>> I like google desktop search much better, but you can't turn off
>> Vista's indexing fuction.
>> This makes it a bad choice to use Googles search and have 2 such
>> processes running.
>> Googles sidebar is exactly the same as the one that comes with Vista.
>>
>> ---------
>> Problem:
>>
>> AOL email crashes in mozilla and the client crashes, email only worked
>> using IE.
>> AOL Error Code: C0FE1702
>> AOL 9.0VR (Vista Ready), (Worked for a while)
>> Then my son put on i-tunes for his IPOD. (AOL started to crash
>> progressivly over the next week),
>> I tried these:
>> uninstalled mcafee
>> uninstalled aol,
>> printer driver
>> reload.
>>
>> FIX:
>> I uninstalled itunes and that fixed the problem until he re-installed
>> it, with a newer version that still didn't help, (AOL+VISTA+itunes=AOL
>> Crashing).
>>
>> Note: AOL was not completly fixed as it would always disco
>> occasionally after that.
>>
>> ---------
>> Anoyance:
>> The screen kept going momentarily black whenever I loaded a program
>> with the annoying button asking if I was sure I wanted to run the
>> program.
>>
>> FIX:
>> I turned off UAC (user account control) to speed things up.
>> Told that it could be a security hole though.
>> ---------
>> Problem
>> Mcafee will not install on Vista.
>>
>> FIX.
>> To install my retail mcafee on vista.
>> http://us.mcafee.com/vista/
>>
>> run sticker_update_1_2.exe
>> Be sure to keep your McAfee product CD that was included in the box.
>> You will need this CD for authentication to add the Vista-compatible
>> upgrade.
>>
>> Note: Mcafee seems to run faster in XP
>>
>> --------
>> Problem:
>>
>> I could not access the C:/ drive on my new VISTA from my XP machine.
>> (just other subfolders)
>> Getting "not permitted" error.
>> \\COMPUTER\c$ is not accessible. You might not have permission to use
>> this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to
>> find out if you have access permissions.
>>
>> >From other web site, but this is the overly complex workaround.
>> HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System and add
>> a new DWORD labeled "LocalAccountTokenFilterPolicy" and set it's value
>> to 1.
>>
>> Reboot
>>
>> I also had to R-click C: do "advanced sharing" add "everyone and
>> annonymous login" and give them full permissions. (even though I did
>> it before I had tweaked the registry).
>>
>> ------------
>> Problem:
>> unidentified device. "Yellow "?" in the device manager.
>> Still get error " Windows Vista does not support MPU-401 Compatible
>> MIDI Device"
>> When I remove the unidentified device.
>>
>> Never fixed until I installed XP, then it went away.
>> -----
>> Problem:
>> Printer extremely slow.
>> HP PSC 1310 All-in-One series printer,
>>
>> Trying to print from my Vista PC to the printer that is on my XP box.
>> ?? tried updating the driver on xp and also installed driver on the
>> remote vista pc.
>> Nothing worked.
>>
>> Cause:
>> HP will do nothing to fix the problem and I am not about to Buy a new
>> Printer just because HP will not ever make an XP driver that is also
>> Vista friendly.
>>
>> FIX:
>> Ditched Vista (Works great on XP)
>> ---------
>>
>> Problem:
>> Second Copy won't take my registration code.
>> Thus I was stuck with the one month trial.
>> FIX:
>> Ditched Vista
>> --------
>> Problem:
>> Utorrent downloads don't work. (Yes there are legitimate uses)
>>
>> FIX:
>> Vista has a greedy limit on TCP connections.
>> There is a crack for the "TCP concurrent connection limit in Vista".
>> but MS should have made it easier to adjust that.
>>
>> This seems to work ok using XP.
>> --------
>> Problem:
>> Adobe premier 6.5 and MainConcept.
>> Not sure which, but when I render a video to MPEG2 now the resulting
>> video has a bad sound track that is out of sync with the video. this
>> results in Jerky DVD's and is a major issue for me.
>> The output MPEG 2 video (according to AVICodec) is intermittently
>> flawed.
>>
>> -----
>> Problem,
>> Entrust encryption software (Client Software: Entrust Entelligence
>> 6.1SP1)
>> Not Vista capable.
>> No workaround.
>> (this will at least keep my office from embracing Vista for a while)
>> ------
>> Problem,
>>
>> Nero 6.3, (this was on the MS site as a compatible product)
>> When installing, there was a warning that this was Vista incompatible,
>> and I chose to install anyway. Nero didn't work.
>> but worse, the DVD Drive completly vanished from my explorer!!
>>
>> FIX: None,
>> I had to do a rollback to a previous time.
>> Uninstalled Nero. to this date, Nero of any flavor does not with
>> Vista.
>> --------
>> Problem:
>> Sonic My-DVD, simply does not work with Vista.
>> Cannot install or run.
>>
>> Workaround: None, but...
>> I bought Video Show Expressions. This worked, but was really not as
>> good as Sonic and it doesn't take elementary streams for video input
>> like Sonic does.
>> So now I have sunk more money into the Vista incompatibility issue for
>> lesser software.
>> -----
>> Problem
>> Office XP, (office assistant)
>> You only get the paper clip, none of the other helper buddies work. no
>> dog/Cat/Wizard.
>> I didn't try all the other features, but Word/Excel worked ok.
>>
>> I guess Microsoft wants me to buy the new office
>> --------
>> Problem:
>> Age of Empires/Conquerors expansion.
>> My favorite Game and it's by Microsoft, so it should work. (NOT)
>> You can't see any of the help files to see what units cost of what you
>> civilizations strengths/weakneses are.
>> I Verifeid this also using another Vista PC also.
>>
>> ------
>> Problem: (this time HW related)
>> after a few months and countless hours dealing with the above Vista
>> Annoyances.
>> I had a real HW problem.
>>
>> Symptoms:
>> 07/31
>> Crashed BSOD (Blue Screen of Death), while surfing walmart.com
>> Problem signature:
>> Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
>> OS Version: 6.0.6000.2.0.0.768.3
>>
>> I restored the PC back to the (07/23/07)
>> Didn't work, still getting an inconsistent BSOD.
>>
>> I put in a new 300 gig HD thinking that that was the problem, I
>> reinstalled Vista on that, but before ever connecting to the internet,
>> I was getting the BSOD.
>>
>> To make a very long story short.
>> 08/05/07 Problem solved, I found and removed a bad 1 GIG RAM chip.
>> Now the PC was working with the original HD and everything looked the
>> same but it wasnt'.
>>
>> -------
>> Problem.
>> Issue that arose probably as a result of the nasty crashed with the
>> bad RAM chip.
>> windows update is no longer working. (all the other stuff seems to
>> work though)
>> error,
>> "Windows could not search for new update"
>> WindowsUpdate_C0150004 WindowsUpdate_dt000
>>
>> Tried
>> Rename the C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution folder, but didn't work.
>>
>> I Called Microsoft support. @800-936-5700 and got a tech named S.
>> Boopath, He was actually very dilligent and I don't hold him
>> personally responsible.
>> This is actually a call that lasted 5 hours the first day and then
>> took place for a couple of hours the next day only to end with a
>> completely innoperative PC.
>>
>> The tech sent me an automatic decoder tool.
>> and I emailed him the output data so that he could go over that.
>>
>> He Called back several hours later, He then logged in via remote
>> desktop.
>> This allows him to take total control of my PC, move the mouse and
>> type.
>>
>> He stopped a bunch of processes and renamed a bunch of files.
>> such as windows/system32/catroot and windows/SoftwareDistribution
>> then restarted.
>> The PC now came up with a black screen.
>> after many unsuccessful attempts to revert by using the Vista-DVD, and
>> calling back the next day to see if we could fix this.
>> He said we would need to reformat and reinstall Vista.
>> I had to save my Data still and was able to get a DOS prompt using the
>> "repair reinstall" option on the DVD.
>> I put on that extra HD from earlier and made a careful batch file
>> using "xcopy /S /H /E /Y"
>>
>> At this point I gave up.
>>
>> I told the MS Tech that if I was going to reformat my HD, there was no
>> way Vista would ever go back on this machine.
>>
>> He appologized and basically admitted that "this is a problem that is
>> Vista specific, meaning it wouldn't have happened on XP. and he said
>> that a lot of the software/HW manufacturers just aren't on the
>> bandwagon yet with Vista"
>>
>> I then threw in the towel and ordered a new copy of XP.
>> There is no way I will put Vista back on.
>>
>> -------
>> So here I am with an expensive OEM Vista that I don't use.
>> I have bought several programs to replace Vista incompatible programs
>> and I suspect that I put 60-80 hours into the learning and
>> troubleshooting process.
>>
>> My XP works great on my "ASRock 775Dual-Vista" and even threads the
>> dual processors really well.
>> Not just some but all of the above issues where completely resolved
>> once I put on XP.
>>
>> My question is... How is everyone so OK with this??
>> Am I going mad, is it just me?
>> Where is everyone with similar issues?
>> Why does PCWorld and all the other publications keep gushing about how
>> good this product is?
>> What is the reason, Is there any compelling reason for anyone to get
>> Vista in the first place?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Crzzy1
>> (Just for the record, Vista Sucks)
>>
>>

 

[Mac]

"Frank" wrote:

> DanS wrote:
>
> > Frank <fb@nospan.crm> wrote in
> > news:#OFngeq7HHA.1900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Nah...no need to check anything...cause he's a "Network Engineer"
> >>remember? Frank
> >
> >
> > I'm sure he's at least as much a "Network Engineer" as you are a "Field
> > Engineer".
>
> hehehe...sorry dan'o, but our Vista Ultimate installs, all nine of them,
> are running just fine.
> And oh, btw, I'm personally running the latest, Vista compatible version
> of Nero.
> Is that too complicated for you to understand?
> Frank
>

Sorry, Frank, but it seems to me that You really have some presonal
problems .

 

[AJB]

"Mac" wrote:

> "Frank" wrote:
>
> > DanS wrote:
> >
> > > Frank <fb@nospan.crm> wrote in
> > > news:#OFngeq7HHA.1900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>Nah...no need to check anything...cause he's a "Network Engineer"
> > >>remember? Frank
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm sure he's at least as much a "Network Engineer" as you are a "Field
> > > Engineer".
> >
> > hehehe...sorry dan'o, but our Vista Ultimate installs, all nine of them,
> > are running just fine.
> > And oh, btw, I'm personally running the latest, Vista compatible version
> > of Nero.
> > Is that too complicated for you to understand?
> > Frank
> >
>
> Sorry, Frank, but it seems to me that You really have some presonal
> problems .
>
>