Running a website using Windows Vista

J

Jibey Jacob

Hi:

Is it possible to run an ASP.NET 2.0 Web application on Windows Vista
Ultimate 32-bit using its built in IIS? Of course, the website would be on
the Internet. I don't expect many visitors to my site - atmost around 40000
visitors per month. Will I face any inherent scalability limitations in Vista
that would prevent me from doing this?

Thanks.
 
T

Tom Willett

Vista supports 10 simultaneous connections, and one visitor could use
several at one time. With 40,000 visitors per month, you're not going to
have any luck.

"Jibey Jacob" <JibeyJacob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EEB9BE30-55AB-4416-9DD9-6E3033B9FEA9@microsoft.com...
| Hi:
|
| Is it possible to run an ASP.NET 2.0 Web application on Windows Vista
| Ultimate 32-bit using its built in IIS? Of course, the website would be on
| the Internet. I don't expect many visitors to my site - atmost around
40000
| visitors per month. Will I face any inherent scalability limitations in
Vista
| that would prevent me from doing this?
|
| Thanks.
|
 
J

Jibey Jacob

Thanks.

Would you know how many connections Microsoft Small Business Server 2003
supports? Would it be adequate for my 40000 visitors per month requirement?


"Tom Willett" wrote:

> Vista supports 10 simultaneous connections, and one visitor could use
> several at one time. With 40,000 visitors per month, you're not going to
> have any luck.
>
> "Jibey Jacob" <JibeyJacob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:EEB9BE30-55AB-4416-9DD9-6E3033B9FEA9@microsoft.com...
> | Hi:
> |
> | Is it possible to run an ASP.NET 2.0 Web application on Windows Vista
> | Ultimate 32-bit using its built in IIS? Of course, the website would be on
> | the Internet. I don't expect many visitors to my site - atmost around
> 40000
> | visitors per month. Will I face any inherent scalability limitations in
> Vista
> | that would prevent me from doing this?
> |
> | Thanks.
> |
>
>
>
 
M

Mr. Arnold

"Jibey Jacob" <JibeyJacob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EEB9BE30-55AB-4416-9DD9-6E3033B9FEA9@microsoft.com...
> Hi:
>
> Is it possible to run an ASP.NET 2.0 Web application on Windows Vista
> Ultimate 32-bit using its built in IIS? Of course, the website would be on
> the Internet. I don't expect many visitors to my site - atmost around
> 40000
> visitors per month. Will I face any inherent scalability limitations in
> Vista
> that would prevent me from doing this?


Windows 2003 server is a Web solution platform and not Vista. Your site is
going to be nothing but hack bait and a jumping off point to attack other
networks and Web servers on the Internet.

If the O/S, Web server, file system, registry, user accounts, Web
applications and non Web solutions on the NT based O/S such as Vista and its
predecessors are not secured/harden to attack, which there are entire books
that cover these security aspects with professionals hardly being able to
implement them on a NT based O/S or they can't do it period and are ignorant
in securing the platform to face the Internet, then it's just hack bait
you're putting on the Internet.

Just like one shouldn't put up a Web site using XP pro to face the Internet,
because it's not a Web server solution and it's just a workstation O/S, the
same holds true for Vista.

It's ok to take these O/S workstation platforms and develop Web solutions in
a protected environment, behind a FW. But to take a workstation platform and
make that platform face the Internet as a Web server is questionable to say
the least about it.

What you should be doing is using a Web hosting service to host your Web
solutions.
 
R

Richard Urban

You had better also check with your ISP. If you don't have business class
DSL you may find that they will shut you down. Most ISP will not allow web
hosting on home class DSL or cable.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)



"Jibey Jacob" <JibeyJacob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6C969F2B-BE33-4AE3-A228-232B94703B8B@microsoft.com...
> Thanks.
>
> Would you know how many connections Microsoft Small Business Server 2003
> supports? Would it be adequate for my 40000 visitors per month
> requirement?
>
>
> "Tom Willett" wrote:
>
>> Vista supports 10 simultaneous connections, and one visitor could use
>> several at one time. With 40,000 visitors per month, you're not going to
>> have any luck.
>>
>> "Jibey Jacob" <JibeyJacob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:EEB9BE30-55AB-4416-9DD9-6E3033B9FEA9@microsoft.com...
>> | Hi:
>> |
>> | Is it possible to run an ASP.NET 2.0 Web application on Windows Vista
>> | Ultimate 32-bit using its built in IIS? Of course, the website would be
>> on
>> | the Internet. I don't expect many visitors to my site - atmost around
>> 40000
>> | visitors per month. Will I face any inherent scalability limitations in
>> Vista
>> | that would prevent me from doing this?
>> |
>> | Thanks.
>> |
>>
>>
>>
 
T

Techno Mage

10 for XP
Vista lets you set the limit, yourself.
It works just fine, for me.

"Tom Willett" wrote:

> Vista supports 10 simultaneous connections, and one visitor could use
> several at one time. With 40,000 visitors per month, you're not going to
> have any luck.
>
> "Jibey Jacob" <JibeyJacob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:EEB9BE30-55AB-4416-9DD9-6E3033B9FEA9@microsoft.com...
> | Hi:
> |
> | Is it possible to run an ASP.NET 2.0 Web application on Windows Vista
> | Ultimate 32-bit using its built in IIS? Of course, the website would be on
> | the Internet. I don't expect many visitors to my site - atmost around
> 40000
> | visitors per month. Will I face any inherent scalability limitations in
> Vista
> | that would prevent me from doing this?
> |
> | Thanks.
> |
>
>
>
 
M

Mr. Arnold

"Jibey Jacob" <JibeyJacob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6C969F2B-BE33-4AE3-A228-232B94703B8B@microsoft.com...
> Thanks.
>
> Would you know how many connections Microsoft Small Business Server 2003
> supports? Would it be adequate for my 40000 visitors per month
> requirement?
>


You had better find a business class ISP that's going to allow you to run
that Web server. Most ISP(s) used by the home user sector are not going to
allow you to suck up their bandwidth like that.

They look for Web servers operating on their network, and they send you an
email stating that you take it down or have your account terminated.
 
J

Jibey Jacob

I do have business Internet access. I run a small business.

Would you know if Windows Small Business Server 2003 is adequate for my
40,000 visitors per month website?

Thanks.

"Richard Urban" wrote:

> You had better also check with your ISP. If you don't have business class
> DSL you may find that they will shut you down. Most ISP will not allow web
> hosting on home class DSL or cable.
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
>
>
> "Jibey Jacob" <JibeyJacob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6C969F2B-BE33-4AE3-A228-232B94703B8B@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Would you know how many connections Microsoft Small Business Server 2003
> > supports? Would it be adequate for my 40000 visitors per month
> > requirement?
> >
> >
> > "Tom Willett" wrote:
> >
> >> Vista supports 10 simultaneous connections, and one visitor could use
> >> several at one time. With 40,000 visitors per month, you're not going to
> >> have any luck.
> >>
> >> "Jibey Jacob" <JibeyJacob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:EEB9BE30-55AB-4416-9DD9-6E3033B9FEA9@microsoft.com...
> >> | Hi:
> >> |
> >> | Is it possible to run an ASP.NET 2.0 Web application on Windows Vista
> >> | Ultimate 32-bit using its built in IIS? Of course, the website would be
> >> on
> >> | the Internet. I don't expect many visitors to my site - atmost around
> >> 40000
> >> | visitors per month. Will I face any inherent scalability limitations in
> >> Vista
> >> | that would prevent me from doing this?
> >> |
> >> | Thanks.
> >> |
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
 
J

Jibey Jacob

Hi:

How do I set the connections limit in Vista Ultimate?

Thanks.

"Techno Mage" wrote:

> 10 for XP
> Vista lets you set the limit, yourself.
> It works just fine, for me.
>
> "Tom Willett" wrote:
>
> > Vista supports 10 simultaneous connections, and one visitor could use
> > several at one time. With 40,000 visitors per month, you're not going to
> > have any luck.
> >
> > "Jibey Jacob" <JibeyJacob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:EEB9BE30-55AB-4416-9DD9-6E3033B9FEA9@microsoft.com...
> > | Hi:
> > |
> > | Is it possible to run an ASP.NET 2.0 Web application on Windows Vista
> > | Ultimate 32-bit using its built in IIS? Of course, the website would be on
> > | the Internet. I don't expect many visitors to my site - atmost around
> > 40000
> > | visitors per month. Will I face any inherent scalability limitations in
> > Vista
> > | that would prevent me from doing this?
> > |
> > | Thanks.
> > |
> >
> >
> >
 
J

Jibey Jacob

My upload bandwidth, or in other words, what my Web server will be able to
serve, is between 600 kbps and 700 kbps. Note that those are Kilo
Bits/second, not Kilo Bytes/second.

Is this adequate for running a Web site that has 40,000 visitors per month?

Thanks.

"Techno Mage" wrote:

> 10 for XP
> Vista lets you set the limit, yourself.
> It works just fine, for me.
>
> "Tom Willett" wrote:
>
> > Vista supports 10 simultaneous connections, and one visitor could use
> > several at one time. With 40,000 visitors per month, you're not going to
> > have any luck.
> >
> > "Jibey Jacob" <JibeyJacob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:EEB9BE30-55AB-4416-9DD9-6E3033B9FEA9@microsoft.com...
> > | Hi:
> > |
> > | Is it possible to run an ASP.NET 2.0 Web application on Windows Vista
> > | Ultimate 32-bit using its built in IIS? Of course, the website would be on
> > | the Internet. I don't expect many visitors to my site - atmost around
> > 40000
> > | visitors per month. Will I face any inherent scalability limitations in
> > Vista
> > | that would prevent me from doing this?
> > |
> > | Thanks.
> > |
> >
> >
> >
 
S

Swingman

"Jibey Jacob" <JibeyJacob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A7A9E1F2-6BA7-44EF-A11D-9E9D3800C95E@microsoft.com...
>I do have business Internet access. I run a small business.
>
> Would you know if Windows Small Business Server 2003 is adequate for my
> 40,000 visitors per month website?


I partnered/operated a company that did web hosting, among other things,
for the better part of 15 years, and recently shut it's doors and moved the
remaining webs and all e-mail to a third party solution.

This is no longer you're father's Internet.

The best advice you've gotten thus far is to take your business to a large
web hosting company with the pipe/resources to support the legitimate
traffic, as well as the constant deluge of hackers and spammers.

A quick look at a single days worth of server logs would be enough to
convince anyone that this is not something they would want to do locally
without a lot more knowlege than exhibited by someone whose out-of-the-chute
question is the feaasibility of doing so with Vista!

You've gotten excellent advice ... ignore at your peril.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 6/1/07
KarlC@ (the obvious)
 
M

Mr. Arnold

"Jibey Jacob" <JibeyJacob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A7A9E1F2-6BA7-44EF-A11D-9E9D3800C95E@microsoft.com...
>I do have business Internet access. I run a small business.
>
> Would you know if Windows Small Business Server 2003 is adequate for my
> 40,000 visitors per month website?
>


Why don't you get a professional to come in and evaluate your situation? You
seem to be putting your business at serious risk here not really knowing
what you're doing if you have got to ask these kind of questions.

And if you already have a site up, then you need to get a professional in
there to evaluate the security issues that any business will face when
exposing a Web Server to the Internet, not only for the Web server itself,
but the entire company LAN environment.

What, you got a router and you're going to open port 80 on the router to
expose the non secured Web server to the Internet, and the rest of the
company LAN is going through that router too?

Say it's not so that this is your plan.

Do you even know about the many forms of attacks that can be ran against a
Web server, and the Web applications running on the server?
 
J

Jibey Jacob

Well, I hope you're not a hacker/spammer.

Cheers.

"Swingman" wrote:

>
> "Jibey Jacob" <JibeyJacob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:A7A9E1F2-6BA7-44EF-A11D-9E9D3800C95E@microsoft.com...
> >I do have business Internet access. I run a small business.
> >
> > Would you know if Windows Small Business Server 2003 is adequate for my
> > 40,000 visitors per month website?

>
> I partnered/operated a company that did web hosting, among other things,
> for the better part of 15 years, and recently shut it's doors and moved the
> remaining webs and all e-mail to a third party solution.
>
> This is no longer you're father's Internet.
>
> The best advice you've gotten thus far is to take your business to a large
> web hosting company with the pipe/resources to support the legitimate
> traffic, as well as the constant deluge of hackers and spammers.
>
> A quick look at a single days worth of server logs would be enough to
> convince anyone that this is not something they would want to do locally
> without a lot more knowlege than exhibited by someone whose out-of-the-chute
> question is the feaasibility of doing so with Vista!
>
> You've gotten excellent advice ... ignore at your peril.
>
> --
> www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 6/1/07
> KarlC@ (the obvious)
>
>
 
T

Tom Willett

Windows Vista Ultimate, Business, and Enterprise Editions: 10

http://technet2.microsoft.com/windo...ddb7-4423-b1e5-df550e25713b1033.mspx?mfr=true


"Techno Mage" <TechnoMage@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6974685A-F9FC-4636-8784-204119DB3DED@microsoft.com...
| 10 for XP
| Vista lets you set the limit, yourself.
| It works just fine, for me.
|
| "Tom Willett" wrote:
|
| > Vista supports 10 simultaneous connections, and one visitor could use
| > several at one time. With 40,000 visitors per month, you're not going
to
| > have any luck.
| >
| > "Jibey Jacob" <JibeyJacob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > news:EEB9BE30-55AB-4416-9DD9-6E3033B9FEA9@microsoft.com...
| > | Hi:
| > |
| > | Is it possible to run an ASP.NET 2.0 Web application on Windows Vista
| > | Ultimate 32-bit using its built in IIS? Of course, the website would
be on
| > | the Internet. I don't expect many visitors to my site - atmost around
| > 40000
| > | visitors per month. Will I face any inherent scalability limitations
in
| > Vista
| > | that would prevent me from doing this?
| > |
| > | Thanks.
| > |
| >
| >
| >
 
J

Jibey Jacob

You seem to be hell bent on convincing me that I shouldn't run my own Web
server. What I need is advice on how to run my own Web server, that's the
kind of service I would expect from this newsgroup. I don't need someone
telling me not to do what I want to do.

By the way, do you know me by any chance? Have we ever met? Why the animosity?

Cheers.

"Mr. Arnold" wrote:

>
> "Jibey Jacob" <JibeyJacob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:A7A9E1F2-6BA7-44EF-A11D-9E9D3800C95E@microsoft.com...
> >I do have business Internet access. I run a small business.
> >
> > Would you know if Windows Small Business Server 2003 is adequate for my
> > 40,000 visitors per month website?
> >

>
> Why don't you get a professional to come in and evaluate your situation? You
> seem to be putting your business at serious risk here not really knowing
> what you're doing if you have got to ask these kind of questions.
>
> And if you already have a site up, then you need to get a professional in
> there to evaluate the security issues that any business will face when
> exposing a Web Server to the Internet, not only for the Web server itself,
> but the entire company LAN environment.
>
> What, you got a router and you're going to open port 80 on the router to
> expose the non secured Web server to the Internet, and the rest of the
> company LAN is going through that router too?
>
> Say it's not so that this is your plan.
>
> Do you even know about the many forms of attacks that can be ran against a
> Web server, and the Web applications running on the server?
>
>
 
M

Mr. Arnold

"Jibey Jacob" <JibeyJacob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F8ED67D7-A883-43C9-BD5D-4DA1DFF597F3@microsoft.com...
> You seem to be hell bent on convincing me that I shouldn't run my own Web
> server. What I need is advice on how to run my own Web server, that's the
> kind of service I would expect from this newsgroup. I don't need someone
> telling me not to do what I want to do.


Someone needs to tell you something, because you don't have a *clue* about
running a Web server.

And the fact that you're sitting up in this NG needing to ask the questions,
instead of seeking a professional hiring he or she to come to your business
and make an assessment of your needs, someone who makes a living doing this
kind of thing, particularly in protecting a business, your decision making
process comes into question.

Go hire a professional that knows what he or she is doing, because you don't
and its obvious.

>
> By the way, do you know me by any chance? Have we ever met? Why the
> animosity?


I don't want to know you, and I got no animosity against you. You may not
like the truth about the message, but nevertheless, it's a valid message.

You do what you want to do, because you got the technical *expertise* in
Information Technology to do so. It may be a hard lesson for you to learn.
But you know what they say. You pay for your lessons on life.

You got cash, because the way you're headed, they are going to cash in one
way or the other.

It's your business, put it at risk, because you don't know what you're
doing.
 
M

Mr. Happy

Jibey Jacob wrote:

> Thanks.
>
> Would you know how many connections Microsoft Small Business Server 2003
> supports? Would it be adequate for my 40000 visitors per month
> requirement?
>

Setup a LAMP server. It's the standard in the industry and won't cost you
anything.

Shake Hands With,
Mr. Happy
 
M

Mick Murphy

Your kbps is too, too slow for what you are wanting to do.

You have been given the right advice get a 3rd party to do it for you, as
you don't and never will know how to do it, OR to take advice from people
with MORE experience than you!

"Jibey Jacob" wrote:

> My upload bandwidth, or in other words, what my Web server will be able to
> serve, is between 600 kbps and 700 kbps. Note that those are Kilo
> Bits/second, not Kilo Bytes/second.
>
> Is this adequate for running a Web site that has 40,000 visitors per month?
>
> Thanks.
>
> "Techno Mage" wrote:
>
> > 10 for XP
> > Vista lets you set the limit, yourself.
> > It works just fine, for me.
> >
> > "Tom Willett" wrote:
> >
> > > Vista supports 10 simultaneous connections, and one visitor could use
> > > several at one time. With 40,000 visitors per month, you're not going to
> > > have any luck.
> > >
> > > "Jibey Jacob" <JibeyJacob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:EEB9BE30-55AB-4416-9DD9-6E3033B9FEA9@microsoft.com...
> > > | Hi:
> > > |
> > > | Is it possible to run an ASP.NET 2.0 Web application on Windows Vista
> > > | Ultimate 32-bit using its built in IIS? Of course, the website would be on
> > > | the Internet. I don't expect many visitors to my site - atmost around
> > > 40000
> > > | visitors per month. Will I face any inherent scalability limitations in
> > > Vista
> > > | that would prevent me from doing this?
> > > |
> > > | Thanks.
> > > |
> > >
> > >
> > >
 
J

Jibey Jacob

OK, I get it. All of this was just people with MORE experience sounding off.

Thanks.

"Mick Murphy" wrote:

> Your kbps is too, too slow for what you are wanting to do.
>
> You have been given the right advice get a 3rd party to do it for you, as
> you don't and never will know how to do it, OR to take advice from people
> with MORE experience than you!
>
> "Jibey Jacob" wrote:
>
> > My upload bandwidth, or in other words, what my Web server will be able to
> > serve, is between 600 kbps and 700 kbps. Note that those are Kilo
> > Bits/second, not Kilo Bytes/second.
> >
> > Is this adequate for running a Web site that has 40,000 visitors per month?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > "Techno Mage" wrote:
> >
> > > 10 for XP
> > > Vista lets you set the limit, yourself.
> > > It works just fine, for me.
> > >
> > > "Tom Willett" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Vista supports 10 simultaneous connections, and one visitor could use
> > > > several at one time. With 40,000 visitors per month, you're not going to
> > > > have any luck.
> > > >
> > > > "Jibey Jacob" <JibeyJacob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:EEB9BE30-55AB-4416-9DD9-6E3033B9FEA9@microsoft.com...
> > > > | Hi:
> > > > |
> > > > | Is it possible to run an ASP.NET 2.0 Web application on Windows Vista
> > > > | Ultimate 32-bit using its built in IIS? Of course, the website would be on
> > > > | the Internet. I don't expect many visitors to my site - atmost around
> > > > 40000
> > > > | visitors per month. Will I face any inherent scalability limitations in
> > > > Vista
> > > > | that would prevent me from doing this?
> > > > |
> > > > | Thanks.
> > > > |
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
 
F

Frank

Jibey Jacob wrote:

> OK, I get it. All of this was just people with MORE experience sounding off.


Hey...now you get it!
Frank
 

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