open letter to W98 users

Angel · Oct 7, 2007

Hi Bill,
I did go to classes on the computers in '92. They had Novell at the
University. We used DOS and
Lotus 1 2 3. I took a class in '98 on the Windows '95. The first personal
computer I had at home was Windows 95. No modem. I used the ones at the
University to access the internet. Windows '98 was self-taught. I never
opened a computer myself. I have so much electricity in my body, I let
someone else do the stuff in the tower for fear of *blowing up* the
components. I would like to learn more about the computer's components. I
cannot get into those classes here. Those are available only to the computer
science, etc. students that are working for a degree.
Angel

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:%23pbTjpRCIHA.3884@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Well, I also cut my teeth a bit on some vacuum tube stuff (as a teenager).
> On some occasions when messing around with that electronics, it was truly
a
> "shocking" experience (pun intended). Gotta be careful when messin
> around with 300 volts DC inside there! It's something you never
forget.
>

>
> Curt Christianson wrote:
> > LOL I do not have children, but I wager they may be older than Dan too.
> > (No cut-down Dan).
> >
> > On a side note, I would love to at least audit Bill in Colo. class. Bet
> I'd
> > learn a lot.
> >
> > Men of that vintage speak from experience, not a bunch of textbook
> > theoreticals.
> >
> > --
> > HTH,
> > Curt
> >
> > Windows Support Center
> > www.aumha.org
> > Practically Nerded,...
> > http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm
> >
> > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> > news:%23356ZzPCIHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> Hi Curt,
> >>
> >> "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:eKu1D7ICIHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >>> Hi Angel,
> >>>
> >>> You're correct, Gary is on a long needed sabbatical (away from NG's
and
> >>> computers).
> >>>
> >>> Angel sounds as though you may be a girl?, woman, either can be an
> >>> insult.(Insert foot).
> >>
> >> No, you did not insert foot. You are correct.
> >>>
> >>> And thank you for the vote of confidence. I'm not dead and gone yet,
at
> >>> least until I get my very last dig in at an MVP, or PCR at least <vbg>
> >>>
> >>> BTW girl, (my apologies if wrong) I was at one time a two-time winner
at
> >>> spelling. But that was then, and this is now. And...I still have my
> wits
> >>> about me.
> >>
> >> No, I never won any prizes. We HAD to know how to spell when I went to
> >> school. The teachers were very strict. I could even, up to now, be able
> to
> >> spell a word that anyone asked for the spelling. Lately I have had to
> double
> >> check the spelling, by printing it and check to see if it looked right.
> >>>
> >>> You know, *I* can still spot a bad spell-check too!
> >>
> >> Spell check even tries to change my last name among other things.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Thanks for the fun, anytime you please. My e-mail can't get simpler.
> >>
> >> You are welcome. I do not know your e-mail address, unless you are
> refering
> >> to the discussion group.
> >> Speaking of e-mail, I have children older than Dan!!
> >> Angel
> >>
> >>> Curt
> >>>
> >>> Windows Support Center
> >>> www.aumha.org
> >>> Practically Nerded,...
> >>> http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm
> >>>
> >>> "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:%23Gw0DDDCIHA.5652@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >>>> Hi Dan and all others that think Curt is leaving us,
> >>>> Dan especially,
> >>>> Curt is NOT leaving us he may have a problem with typing and
some
> >>>> other problems. Sometimes I have problems with spelling and hands
> shaking
> >>>> while typing and other things I am doing. I am not on any meds. or
most
> >>>> things I go to a Homeopathic Practitioner. I also study Homeopathy. I
> do
> >>>> not like to go to a regular Physician. That is a long story. I used
to
> >>>> not need the spell check, I was a spelling champ. I just use it
because
> >>>> sometimes I do not hit the keys right and if I sent the posts without
> >>>> checking you would not be able to decipher it. Sometimes spell check
is
> >>>> wrong also. Lately, I have had to double check my writing in class.
> >>>> Sometimes I have trouble with spelling. I wish my handwriting would
> >>>> correct itself. Maybe they will come out with something that would do
> >>>> that. If they sold pens pencils with build in spell check, I would be
> one
> >>>> of the first to get them. That is a great idea for an invention.
Well,
> we
> >>>> can dream can't we? Curt is not going anywhere.
> >>>> As far as Gary is concerned, I think Gary is taking a long
deserved
> >>>> sebatica from the group.
> >>>> Angel
> >>>>
> >>>> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>>> news:844D3742-B06E-4BD0-8CC9-FD4AD67AF8C5@microsoft.com...
> >>>>> I will miss having another Windows user and wish you the best of
good
> >>>>> fortune. Will you consider dual-booting by using a second hard
drive
> for
> >>>>> compatibility with older dos games and educational programs? If you
> >>>>> cannot meet that requirement then will you use Virtual Machine as a
> >>>>> second not as good requirement meeting. Please let me know since
you
> are
> >>>>> a great guy and I will sorely miss you and your contributions to
this
> >>>>> group.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dan Weiser
> >>>>> New Mexico
> >>>>> APS Educational Assistant
>
>

Bill in Co. · Oct 7, 2007

LOL, this all sounds sooooo familiar. But it's sure been awhile....

It's really too bad the hobby of amateur radio (and actually a LOT of other
things in society) have gone the way they have. :-(

And I miss the good ole days of the 807s, 6146s, and the homebrew (and not
off the counter, appliance operator operated), radio equipment.

Curt Christianson wrote:
> Bill,
>
> I understand.
>
> My first Novice rig was an old Army ARC-5 (had to be converted to xtal
> control in those days), with a pair of 6146's in lieu of the standard
> 1625's. I had to *promise* my mentor, the owner of the rig), I would
> "promise" to keep the plate current within legal limits--I did.
>
> Bad part of that setup was it did not use grid block keying, but rather
> Cathode keying with 625v across the Morse key. A few jolts , and you
learn
> your lesson.
>
> I was resricted to 80 meters only, but get this, in a 50KC bandwith for
> Novices, I had over 30 xtals. I learned how to grind suprplus crystals on
a
> piece of ceramic, and Comet cleanser. Course they stopped oscilliating
> along the way. but came back again--albeit "chirpy"
>
> Oh, the stories Bill.
>
> Very glad to have meant your acquaintance.
>
> --
> 73, ( and at least I didn't say 88's--look that one up!
> Curt
>
> Windows Support Center
> www.aumha.org
> Practically Nerded,...
> http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm
>
> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:%23pbTjpRCIHA.3884@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Well, I also cut my teeth a bit on some vacuum tube stuff (as a
teenager).
>> On some occasions when messing around with that electronics, it was truly
a
>> "shocking" experience (pun intended). Gotta be careful when messin
>> around with 300 volts DC inside there! It's something you never
forget.
>>

>>
>> Curt Christianson wrote:
>>> LOL I do not have children, but I wager they may be older than Dan too.
>>> (No cut-down Dan).
>>>
>>> On a side note, I would love to at least audit Bill in Colo. class. Bet
I'd
>>> learn a lot.
>>>
>>> Men of that vintage speak from experience, not a bunch of textbook
>>> theoreticals.
>>>
>>> --
>>> HTH,
>>> Curt
>>>
>>> Windows Support Center
>>> www.aumha.org
>>> Practically Nerded,...
>>> http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm
>>>
>>> "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23356ZzPCIHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi Curt,
>>>>
>>>> "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:eKu1D7ICIHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hi Angel,
>>>>>
>>>>> You're correct, Gary is on a long needed sabbatical (away from NG's
and
>>>>> computers).
>>>>>
>>>>> Angel sounds as though you may be a girl?, woman, either can be an
>>>>> insult.(Insert foot).
>>>>
>>>> No, you did not insert foot. You are correct.
>>>>>
>>>>> And thank you for the vote of confidence. I'm not dead and gone yet,
at
>>>>> least until I get my very last dig in at an MVP, or PCR at least <vbg>
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW girl, (my apologies if wrong) I was at one time a two-time winner
at
>>>>> spelling. But that was then, and this is now. And...I still have my
wits
>>>>> about me.
>>>>
>>>> No, I never won any prizes. We HAD to know how to spell when I went to
>>>> school. The teachers were very strict. I could even, up to now, be able
to
>>>> spell a word that anyone asked for the spelling. Lately I have had to
>>>> double check the spelling, by printing it and check to see if it looked
>>>> right.
>>>>>
>>>>> You know, *I* can still spot a bad spell-check too!
>>>>
>>>> Spell check even tries to change my last name among other things.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Thanks for the fun, anytime you please. My e-mail can't get simpler.
>>>>
>>>> You are welcome. I do not know your e-mail address, unless you are
refering
>>>> to the discussion group.
>>>> Speaking of e-mail, I have children older than Dan!!
>>>> Angel
>>>>
>>>>> Curt
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows Support Center
>>>>> www.aumha.org
>>>>> Practically Nerded,...
>>>>> http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%23Gw0DDDCIHA.5652@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Hi Dan and all others that think Curt is leaving us,
>>>>>> Dan especially,
>>>>>> Curt is NOT leaving us he may have a problem with typing and
some
>>>>>> other problems. Sometimes I have problems with spelling and hands
shaking
>>>>>> while typing and other things I am doing. I am not on any meds. or
most
>>>>>> things I go to a Homeopathic Practitioner. I also study Homeopathy. I
do
>>>>>> not like to go to a regular Physician. That is a long story. I used
to
>>>>>> not need the spell check, I was a spelling champ. I just use it
because
>>>>>> sometimes I do not hit the keys right and if I sent the posts without
>>>>>> checking you would not be able to decipher it. Sometimes spell check
is
>>>>>> wrong also. Lately, I have had to double check my writing in class.
>>>>>> Sometimes I have trouble with spelling. I wish my handwriting would
>>>>>> correct itself. Maybe they will come out with something that would do
>>>>>> that. If they sold pens pencils with build in spell check, I would be
one
>>>>>> of the first to get them. That is a great idea for an invention.
Well, we
>>>>>> can dream can't we? Curt is not going anywhere.
>>>>>> As far as Gary is concerned, I think Gary is taking a long
deserved
>>>>>> sebatica from the group.
>>>>>> Angel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:844D3742-B06E-4BD0-8CC9-FD4AD67AF8C5@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> I will miss having another Windows user and wish you the best of
good
>>>>>>> fortune. Will you consider dual-booting by using a second hard
drive
>>>>>>> for compatibility with older dos games and educational programs? If
you
>>>>>>> cannot meet that requirement then will you use Virtual Machine as a
>>>>>>> second not as good requirement meeting. Please let me know since
you
>>>>>>> are a great guy and I will sorely miss you and your contributions to
>>>>>>> this group.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dan Weiser
>>>>>>> New Mexico
>>>>>>> APS Educational Assistant

Bill in Co. · Oct 7, 2007

Interesting, Angel.
And they won't let you take such classes over there without "pursuing a
degree"? I would think you could register for them in some non-degree
seeking status, as long as you met the prerequisites. But you'd probably
have to pay for these, degree seeking or not.

Sometimes you can audit courses, too, but the trouble with just auditing
classes is that you really don't learn as much, since there is (often) no
real committment to the course like there is when you are taking it for a
grade.

Angel wrote:
> Hi Bill,
> I did go to classes on the computers in '92. They had Novell at the
> University. We used DOS and
> Lotus 1 2 3. I took a class in '98 on the Windows '95. The first
personal
> computer I had at home was Windows 95. No modem. I used the ones at the
> University to access the internet. Windows '98 was self-taught. I never
> opened a computer myself. I have so much electricity in my body, I let
> someone else do the stuff in the tower for fear of *blowing up* the
> components. I would like to learn more about the computer's components. I
> cannot get into those classes here. Those are available only to the
computer
> science, etc. students that are working for a degree.
> Angel
>
> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:%23pbTjpRCIHA.3884@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Well, I also cut my teeth a bit on some vacuum tube stuff (as a
teenager).
>> On some occasions when messing around with that electronics, it was truly
a
>> "shocking" experience (pun intended). Gotta be careful when messin
>> around with 300 volts DC inside there! It's something you never
forget.
>>

>>
>> Curt Christianson wrote:
>>> LOL I do not have children, but I wager they may be older than Dan too.
>>> (No cut-down Dan).
>>>
>>> On a side note, I would love to at least audit Bill in Colo. class. Bet
I'd
>>> learn a lot.
>>>
>>> Men of that vintage speak from experience, not a bunch of textbook
>>> theoreticals.
>>>
>>> --
>>> HTH,
>>> Curt
>>>
>>> Windows Support Center
>>> www.aumha.org
>>> Practically Nerded,...
>>> http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm
>>>
>>> "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23356ZzPCIHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi Curt,
>>>>
>>>> "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:eKu1D7ICIHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hi Angel,
>>>>>
>>>>> You're correct, Gary is on a long needed sabbatical (away from NG's
and
>>>>> computers).
>>>>>
>>>>> Angel sounds as though you may be a girl?, woman, either can be an
>>>>> insult.(Insert foot).
>>>>
>>>> No, you did not insert foot. You are correct.
>>>>>
>>>>> And thank you for the vote of confidence. I'm not dead and gone yet,
at
>>>>> least until I get my very last dig in at an MVP, or PCR at least <vbg>
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW girl, (my apologies if wrong) I was at one time a two-time winner
at
>>>>> spelling. But that was then, and this is now. And...I still have my
wits
>>>>> about me.
>>>>
>>>> No, I never won any prizes. We HAD to know how to spell when I went to
>>>> school. The teachers were very strict. I could even, up to now, be able
to
>>>> spell a word that anyone asked for the spelling. Lately I have had to
>>>> double check the spelling, by printing it and check to see if it looked
>>>> right.
>>>>>
>>>>> You know, *I* can still spot a bad spell-check too!
>>>>
>>>> Spell check even tries to change my last name among other things.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Thanks for the fun, anytime you please. My e-mail can't get simpler.
>>>>
>>>> You are welcome. I do not know your e-mail address, unless you are
refering
>>>> to the discussion group.
>>>> Speaking of e-mail, I have children older than Dan!!
>>>> Angel
>>>>
>>>>> Curt
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows Support Center
>>>>> www.aumha.org
>>>>> Practically Nerded,...
>>>>> http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%23Gw0DDDCIHA.5652@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Hi Dan and all others that think Curt is leaving us,
>>>>>> Dan especially,
>>>>>> Curt is NOT leaving us he may have a problem with typing and
some
>>>>>> other problems. Sometimes I have problems with spelling and hands
shaking
>>>>>> while typing and other things I am doing. I am not on any meds. or
most
>>>>>> things I go to a Homeopathic Practitioner. I also study Homeopathy. I
do
>>>>>> not like to go to a regular Physician. That is a long story. I used
to
>>>>>> not need the spell check, I was a spelling champ. I just use it
because
>>>>>> sometimes I do not hit the keys right and if I sent the posts without
>>>>>> checking you would not be able to decipher it. Sometimes spell check
is
>>>>>> wrong also. Lately, I have had to double check my writing in class.
>>>>>> Sometimes I have trouble with spelling. I wish my handwriting would
>>>>>> correct itself. Maybe they will come out with something that would do
>>>>>> that. If they sold pens pencils with build in spell check, I would be
one
>>>>>> of the first to get them. That is a great idea for an invention.
Well, we
>>>>>> can dream can't we? Curt is not going anywhere.
>>>>>> As far as Gary is concerned, I think Gary is taking a long
deserved
>>>>>> sebatica from the group.
>>>>>> Angel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:844D3742-B06E-4BD0-8CC9-FD4AD67AF8C5@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> I will miss having another Windows user and wish you the best of
good
>>>>>>> fortune. Will you consider dual-booting by using a second hard
drive
>>>>>>> for compatibility with older dos games and educational programs? If
you
>>>>>>> cannot meet that requirement then will you use Virtual Machine as a
>>>>>>> second not as good requirement meeting. Please let me know since
you
>>>>>>> are a great guy and I will sorely miss you and your contributions to
>>>>>>> this group.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dan Weiser
>>>>>>> New Mexico
>>>>>>> APS Educational Assistant

MEB · Oct 7, 2007

Yep, guess I was one, even lived on a commune/"farm"...

--
MEB
________

"Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:u2YsE%23QCIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| Hippie <g>
|
| --
| HTH,
| Curt
|
| Windows Support Center
| www.aumha.org
| Practically Nerded,...
| http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm
|
| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:OVfUAEKCIHA.6012@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| |
| |
| |
| |
| | "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote in message
| | news:OQnZUfJCIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| || Thank you Maurice!
| |
| | Well, keep up with what ever is needed, and keep the best spirits you
| can..
| | peace, love, and tie dye
| |
| ||
| || --
| || HTH,
| || Curt
| ||
| || Windows Support Center
| || www.aumha.org
| || Practically Nerded,...
| || http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm
| ||
| || "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| || news:OjD9%23Y3BIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| || | I extend mine as well. In addition to the various drugs you're
likely
| | to
| || | be directed to, never forget that much is due to imbalance in diet or
| || | ability to assimilate necessary nutrients. Supplements sometimes work
| to
| || | help in these situations. Of course those in the medical profession
| | would
| || | know more [hopefully] but it never hurts to jog them in that
| | direction...
| || |
| || | Good luck ...
| || |
| || | --
| || | MEB
| || | http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| || | ________
| || |
| || |
| || | "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message
| || | news:4gpcg31nkp84bl9kspao0rbtlfat4mhjml@4ax.com...
| || || "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote:
| || ||
| || ||
| || || >This is some neurological type things they don't know what is is
| about
| || | yet.
| || || >but LOTS more tests.Rumor has it an MS-MVP transplant would
actually
| || cure
| || || >me!!!
| || ||
| || || Maybe, but it might involve lots of ...er...unusual side effects.
| || ||
| || || Good luck!
| || ||
| || || >Please don't think for a moment my mental faculties have been
| || diminished.
| || ||
| || || Not for a minute.
| || ||
| || || --
| || || Tim Slattery
| || || MS MVP(DTS)
| || || Slattery_T@bls.gov
| || || http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
| || |
| || |
| ||
| ||
| |
| |
|
|

Rick Chauvin · Oct 7, 2007

"Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:O2cK9DJCIHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
> thank you Rick. We do go back a few years with George Gedye, Etc. We'll
> enjoy our company or arguments in the future.
>
> --
> HTH,
> Curt

Yes I always tease George that he must work for the cia for taking such
long sea excursions all the time, and disappearing for months at a time. He
wrote me a month ago telling about his latest project being an application
that allows the user to right click a chm file and it ends up being
decompiled and converted to web help ready for publishing.

Anyway, again I wish you the very best blessings getting the kinks out of
your current medical situation..

Rick

Angel · Oct 7, 2007

Bill,
They won't let us audit some of the classes. This is what the *Senior
Guest Student* program is, auditing. I always buy the books and do the stuff
involved. Of course, they charge a fortune to be a regular student unless
you can get a grant.

When I take the classes, some of the professors don't have you do the
assignments or the tests. Teachers do not want to be bothered with grading
the papers involved. I think I even study harder than some. I don't miss
the classes unless it is icy . I still study for the classes even when I
cannot go for some reason or other.

Like you say, you can pay for the classes. You have to pass the
entrance exam to do get into the classes that are reserved for students,
AFAIK.

Angel

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:eHo9siSCIHA.324@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Interesting, Angel.
> And they won't let you take such classes over there without "pursuing a
> degree"? I would think you could register for them in some non-degree
> seeking status, as long as you met the prerequisites. But you'd
probably
> have to pay for these, degree seeking or not.
>
> Sometimes you can audit courses, too, but the trouble with just auditing
> classes is that you really don't learn as much, since there is (often) no
> real committment to the course like there is when you are taking it for a
> grade.

>
> Angel wrote:
> > Hi Bill,
> > I did go to classes on the computers in '92. They had Novell at the
> > University. We used DOS and
> > Lotus 1 2 3. I took a class in '98 on the Windows '95. The first
> personal
> > computer I had at home was Windows 95. No modem. I used the ones at the
> > University to access the internet. Windows '98 was self-taught. I never
> > opened a computer myself. I have so much electricity in my body, I let
> > someone else do the stuff in the tower for fear of *blowing up* the
> > components. I would like to learn more about the computer's components.
I
> > cannot get into those classes here. Those are available only to the
> computer
> > science, etc. students that are working for a degree.
> > Angel
> >
> > "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:%23pbTjpRCIHA.3884@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> Well, I also cut my teeth a bit on some vacuum tube stuff (as a
> teenager).
> >> On some occasions when messing around with that electronics, it was
truly
> a
> >> "shocking" experience (pun intended). Gotta be careful when messin
> >> around with 300 volts DC inside there! It's something you never
> forget.
> >>

> >>
> >> Curt Christianson wrote:
> >>> LOL I do not have children, but I wager they may be older than Dan
too.
> >>> (No cut-down Dan).
> >>>
> >>> On a side note, I would love to at least audit Bill in Colo. class.
Bet
> I'd
> >>> learn a lot.
> >>>
> >>> Men of that vintage speak from experience, not a bunch of textbook
> >>> theoreticals.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> HTH,
> >>> Curt
> >>>
> >>> Windows Support Center
> >>> www.aumha.org
> >>> Practically Nerded,...
> >>> http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm
> >>>
> >>> "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:%23356ZzPCIHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >>>> Hi Curt,
> >>>>
> >>>> "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>> news:eKu1D7ICIHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >>>>> Hi Angel,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You're correct, Gary is on a long needed sabbatical (away from NG's
> and
> >>>>> computers).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Angel sounds as though you may be a girl?, woman, either can be an
> >>>>> insult.(Insert foot).
> >>>>
> >>>> No, you did not insert foot. You are correct.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And thank you for the vote of confidence. I'm not dead and gone
yet,
> at
> >>>>> least until I get my very last dig in at an MVP, or PCR at least
<vbg>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> BTW girl, (my apologies if wrong) I was at one time a two-time
winner
> at
> >>>>> spelling. But that was then, and this is now. And...I still have
my
> wits
> >>>>> about me.
> >>>>
> >>>> No, I never won any prizes. We HAD to know how to spell when I went
to
> >>>> school. The teachers were very strict. I could even, up to now, be
able
> to
> >>>> spell a word that anyone asked for the spelling. Lately I have had to
> >>>> double check the spelling, by printing it and check to see if it
looked
> >>>> right.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You know, *I* can still spot a bad spell-check too!
> >>>>
> >>>> Spell check even tries to change my last name among other things.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Thanks for the fun, anytime you please. My e-mail can't get
simpler.
> >>>>
> >>>> You are welcome. I do not know your e-mail address, unless you are
> refering
> >>>> to the discussion group.
> >>>> Speaking of e-mail, I have children older than Dan!!
> >>>> Angel
> >>>>
> >>>>> Curt
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Windows Support Center
> >>>>> www.aumha.org
> >>>>> Practically Nerded,...
> >>>>> http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:%23Gw0DDDCIHA.5652@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>> Hi Dan and all others that think Curt is leaving us,
> >>>>>> Dan especially,
> >>>>>> Curt is NOT leaving us he may have a problem with typing and
> some
> >>>>>> other problems. Sometimes I have problems with spelling and hands
> shaking
> >>>>>> while typing and other things I am doing. I am not on any meds. or
> most
> >>>>>> things I go to a Homeopathic Practitioner. I also study Homeopathy.
I
> do
> >>>>>> not like to go to a regular Physician. That is a long story. I
used
> to
> >>>>>> not need the spell check, I was a spelling champ. I just use it
> because
> >>>>>> sometimes I do not hit the keys right and if I sent the posts
without
> >>>>>> checking you would not be able to decipher it. Sometimes spell
check
> is
> >>>>>> wrong also. Lately, I have had to double check my writing in class.
> >>>>>> Sometimes I have trouble with spelling. I wish my handwriting would

> >>>>>> correct itself. Maybe they will come out with something that would
do
> >>>>>> that. If they sold pens pencils with build in spell check, I would
be
> one
> >>>>>> of the first to get them. That is a great idea for an invention.
> Well, we
> >>>>>> can dream can't we? Curt is not going anywhere.
> >>>>>> As far as Gary is concerned, I think Gary is taking a long
> deserved
> >>>>>> sebatica from the group.
> >>>>>> Angel
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:844D3742-B06E-4BD0-8CC9-FD4AD67AF8C5@microsoft.com...
> >>>>>>> I will miss having another Windows user and wish you the best of
> good
> >>>>>>> fortune. Will you consider dual-booting by using a second hard
> drive
> >>>>>>> for compatibility with older dos games and educational programs?
If
> you
> >>>>>>> cannot meet that requirement then will you use Virtual Machine as
a
> >>>>>>> second not as good requirement meeting. Please let me know since
> you
> >>>>>>> are a great guy and I will sorely miss you and your contributions
to
> >>>>>>> this group.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Dan Weiser
> >>>>>>> New Mexico
> >>>>>>> APS Educational Assistant
>
>

Bill in Co. · Oct 7, 2007

Angel wrote:
> Bill,
> They won't let us audit some of the classes. This is what the *Senior
> Guest Student* program is, auditing. I always buy the books and do the
stuff
> involved. Of course, they charge a fortune to be a regular student unless
> you can get a grant.
>
> When I take the classes, some of the professors don't have you do the
> assignments or the tests. Teachers do not want to be bothered with grading
> the papers involved.

Yeah, but I can sorta understand their point of view too. But it probably
doesn't seem fair to you, though.

I was a college teacher for 30 years (probably still am, if I start looking
a bit more). Although being a teacher these days, and some of the things
you have to put up with today (in terms of what is and isn't allowed, the
expectations for the students, documentation, justification, what has to be
on the syllabus, etc, etc), is something else. Not so good, anymore.

> I think I even study harder than some. I don't miss
> the classes unless it is icy . I still study for the classes even when I
> cannot go for some reason or other.

That is good.
But you have to keep in mind that you, (like me), are old school, and
brought up with some of those old school values! (I was born in the 40's).

> Like you say, you can pay for the classes. You have to pass the
> entrance exam to do get into the classes that are reserved for students,
> AFAIK.

Entrance exam to get into the classes? What entrance exam is that?

> Angel
>
> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:eHo9siSCIHA.324@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Interesting, Angel.
>> And they won't let you take such classes over there without "pursuing a
>> degree"? I would think you could register for them in some non-degree
>> seeking status, as long as you met the prerequisites. But you'd
probably
>> have to pay for these, degree seeking or not.
>>
>> Sometimes you can audit courses, too, but the trouble with just auditing
>> classes is that you really don't learn as much, since there is (often) no
>> real committment to the course like there is when you are taking it for a
>> grade.

>>
>> Angel wrote:
>>> Hi Bill,
>>> I did go to classes on the computers in '92. They had Novell at the
>>> University. We used DOS and
>>> Lotus 1 2 3. I took a class in '98 on the Windows '95. The first
personal
>>> computer I had at home was Windows 95. No modem. I used the ones at the
>>> University to access the internet. Windows '98 was self-taught. I never
>>> opened a computer myself. I have so much electricity in my body, I let
>>> someone else do the stuff in the tower for fear of *blowing up* the
>>> components. I would like to learn more about the computer's components.
I
>>> cannot get into those classes here. Those are available only to the
computer
>>> science, etc. students that are working for a degree.
>>> Angel
>>>
>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> news:%23pbTjpRCIHA.3884@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Well, I also cut my teeth a bit on some vacuum tube stuff (as a
teenager).
>>>> On some occasions when messing around with that electronics, it was
truly a
>>>> "shocking" experience (pun intended). Gotta be careful when messin
>>>> around with 300 volts DC inside there! It's something you never
forget.
>>>>

>>>>
>>>> Curt Christianson wrote:
>>>>> LOL I do not have children, but I wager they may be older than Dan
too.
>>>>> (No cut-down Dan).
>>>>>
>>>>> On a side note, I would love to at least audit Bill in Colo. class.
Bet
>>>>> I'd learn a lot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Men of that vintage speak from experience, not a bunch of textbook
>>>>> theoreticals.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> HTH,
>>>>> Curt
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows Support Center
>>>>> www.aumha.org
>>>>> Practically Nerded,...
>>>>> http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%23356ZzPCIHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Hi Curt,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:eKu1D7ICIHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Hi Angel,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're correct, Gary is on a long needed sabbatical (away from NG's
and
>>>>>>> computers).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Angel sounds as though you may be a girl?, woman, either can be an
>>>>>>> insult.(Insert foot).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, you did not insert foot. You are correct.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And thank you for the vote of confidence. I'm not dead and gone
yet, at
>>>>>>> least until I get my very last dig in at an MVP, or PCR at least
<vbg>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW girl, (my apologies if wrong) I was at one time a two-time
winner at
>>>>>>> spelling. But that was then, and this is now. And...I still have
my
>>>>>>> wits about me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, I never won any prizes. We HAD to know how to spell when I went
to
>>>>>> school. The teachers were very strict. I could even, up to now, be
able
>>>>>> to spell a word that anyone asked for the spelling. Lately I have had
to
>>>>>> double check the spelling, by printing it and check to see if it
looked
>>>>>> right.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You know, *I* can still spot a bad spell-check too!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Spell check even tries to change my last name among other things.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Thanks for the fun, anytime you please. My e-mail can't get
simpler.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are welcome. I do not know your e-mail address, unless you are
>>>>>> refering to the discussion group.
>>>>>> Speaking of e-mail, I have children older than Dan!!
>>>>>> Angel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Curt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Windows Support Center
>>>>>>> www.aumha.org
>>>>>>> Practically Nerded,...
>>>>>>> http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:%23Gw0DDDCIHA.5652@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Hi Dan and all others that think Curt is leaving us,
>>>>>>>> Dan especially,
>>>>>>>> Curt is NOT leaving us he may have a problem with typing and
some
>>>>>>>> other problems. Sometimes I have problems with spelling and hands
>>>>>>>> shaking while typing and other things I am doing. I am not on any
>>>>>>>> meds. or most things I go to a Homeopathic Practitioner. I also
study
>>>>>>>> Homeopathy. I do not like to go to a regular Physician. That is a
long
>>>>>>>> story. I used to not need the spell check, I was a spelling champ.
I
>>>>>>>> just use it because sometimes I do not hit the keys right and if I
>>>>>>>> sent the posts without checking you would not be able to decipher
it.
>>>>>>>> Sometimes spell check is wrong also. Lately, I have had to double
>>>>>>>> check my writing in class. Sometimes I have trouble with spelling.
I
>>>>>>>> wish my handwriting would
>
>>>>>>>> correct itself. Maybe they will come out with something that would
do
>>>>>>>> that. If they sold pens pencils with build in spell check, I would
be
>>>>>>>> one of the first to get them. That is a great idea for an
invention.
>>>>>>>> Well, we can dream can't we? Curt is not going anywhere.
>>>>>>>> As far as Gary is concerned, I think Gary is taking a long
deserved
>>>>>>>> sebatica from the group.
>>>>>>>> Angel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:844D3742-B06E-4BD0-8CC9-FD4AD67AF8C5@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>> I will miss having another Windows user and wish you the best of
good
>>>>>>>>> fortune. Will you consider dual-booting by using a second hard
drive
>>>>>>>>> for compatibility with older dos games and educational programs?
If
>>>>>>>>> you cannot meet that requirement then will you use Virtual Machine
as
>>>>>>>>> a second not as good requirement meeting. Please let me know
since
>>>>>>>>> you are a great guy and I will sorely miss you and your
contributions
>>>>>>>>> to this group.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dan Weiser
>>>>>>>>> New Mexico
>>>>>>>>> APS Educational Assistant

Dan · Oct 7, 2007

Cool, you can be like a grandmother as long as that is not too insulting to
you, Angel.

Dan · Oct 7, 2007

BTW, I enjoy debating people about controversal topics like religion and
politics because I enjoy many viewpoints. My minor was cultural anthropology
at the University. I find that email is a safe route because then you do not
get everyone angry at you and you can stop emailing each other if someone is
insulted by you. I am not looking for a date. LOL!!

Dan · Oct 7, 2007

Wow, am I the youngest guy here and what about PCR?

Sudy Nim · Oct 8, 2007

Ah memories, a long time ago! Today a ham in name only.

dah-di-dah
dah-dah-dah-dah-dit
dah-dah-di-dah
dah-dah-dit
di-di-dit

"Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:%23SltR8RCIHA.3548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Bill,
>
> I understand.
>
> My first Novice rig was an old Army ARC-5 (had to be converted to xtal
> control in those days), with a pair of 6146's in lieu of the standard
> 1625's. I had to *promise* my mentor, the owner of the rig), I would
> "promise" to keep the plate current within legal limits--I did.
>
> Bad part of that setup was it did not use grid block keying, but rather
> Cathode keying with 625v across the Morse key. A few jolts , and you learn
> your lesson.
>
> I was resricted to 80 meters only, but get this, in a 50KC bandwith for
> Novices, I had over 30 xtals. I learned how to grind suprplus crystals on a
> piece of ceramic, and Comet cleanser. Course they stopped oscilliating
> along the way. but came back again--albeit "chirpy"
>
> Oh, the stories Bill.
>
> Very glad to have meant your acquaintance.
>
> --
> 73, ( and at least I didn't say 88's--look that one up!
> Curt
>
> Windows Support Center
> www.aumha.org
> Practically Nerded,...
> http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm
>
> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:%23pbTjpRCIHA.3884@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | Well, I also cut my teeth a bit on some vacuum tube stuff (as a teenager).
> | On some occasions when messing around with that electronics, it was truly
> a
> | "shocking" experience (pun intended). Gotta be careful when messin
> | around with 300 volts DC inside there! It's something you never
> forget.
> |

Angel · Oct 8, 2007

Grandmother of 10

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:58055A9D-AC6C-4AFF-979B-A02AFB3AB9E2@microsoft.com...
> Cool, you can be like a grandmother as long as that is not too insulting
to
> you, Angel.

Angel · Oct 8, 2007

Too busy with University classes to do a debate on anything.

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:29EE96E4-90C3-407B-991C-BA47CAEEFCDC@microsoft.com...
> BTW, I enjoy debating people about controversal topics like religion and
> politics because I enjoy many viewpoints. My minor was cultural
anthropology
> at the University. I find that email is a safe route because then you do
not
> get everyone angry at you and you can stop emailing each other if someone
is
> insulted by you. I am not looking for a date. LOL!!

Angel · Oct 8, 2007

Hi Bill,
"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:%231mQe9UCIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Angel wrote:
> > Bill,
> > They won't let us audit some of the classes. This is what the *Senior
> > Guest Student* program is, auditing. I always buy the books and do the
> stuff
> > involved. Of course, they charge a fortune to be a regular student
unless
> > you can get a grant.
> >
> > When I take the classes, some of the professors don't have you do the
> > assignments or the tests. Teachers do not want to be bothered with
grading
> > the papers involved.
>
> Yeah, but I can sorta understand their point of view too. But it
probably
> doesn't seem fair to you, though.

Some of the teachers would let you take the tests. I always did the exams
for the computer classes to find out how well I was doing. Turned out good!
High grade, would have had 100% if I could have been able to us Endora. They
woild not allow me to use it because I was not a regular paying student.

CPR class I only missed 2 out of about 100 questions. That was after I had a
head injury in an accident (hit by an Ohio Bell truck!). I guess got a high
because I studied well. Some just passed by the skin of their teeth! I had
to do the test to get my Red Cross CPR card. I do not even know if that
class is available at the University anymore. I should take a refresher
course because things have changed since then.
>
> I was a college teacher for 30 years (probably still am, if I start
looking
> a bit more). Although being a teacher these days, and some of the things
> you have to put up with today (in terms of what is and isn't allowed, the
> expectations for the students, documentation, justification, what has to
be
> on the syllabus, etc, etc), is something else. Not so good, anymore.

With all that is going on in these times in schools, my Philosophy teacher
said that he has to be very careful of what he does or says for fear that
it will be taken the wrong way. He loves his job. He has always been a
gentleman. He is 62 now. He has been teaching for a long time and still
active and sharp. I am older than he is.
>
> > I think I even study harder than some. I don't miss
> > the classes unless it is icy . I still study for the classes even when I
> > cannot go for some reason or other.
>
> That is good.
> But you have to keep in mind that you, (like me), are old school, and
> brought up with some of those old school values! (I was born in the 40's).

I was born in the early 30's
>
> > Like you say, you can pay for the classes. You have to pass the
> > entrance exam to do get into the classes that are reserved for students,
> > AFAIK.
>
> Entrance exam to get into the classes? What entrance exam is that?

I think you still have to do the ACT tests to enter the University. Not sure
what they are called now. I will inquire the first chance I get if they are
required. I know that some classes are reserved for students that need the
classes for graduation credits. Some are for graduate students only. One of
the classes that I am taking now is a Graduate Seminar which is meant for
graduate students. The professor invited me to sit in on it and study in it.
This class is: "Virtue Ethics".
>
>
> > Angel
> >
> > "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:eHo9siSCIHA.324@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> Interesting, Angel.
> >> And they won't let you take such classes over there without "pursuing a
> >> degree"? I would think you could register for them in some
non-degree
> >> seeking status, as long as you met the prerequisites. But you'd
> probably
> >> have to pay for these, degree seeking or not.
> >>
> >> Sometimes you can audit courses, too, but the trouble with just
auditing
> >> classes is that you really don't learn as much, since there is (often)
no
> >> real committment to the course like there is when you are taking it for
a
> >> grade.

> >>
> >> Angel wrote:
> >>> Hi Bill,
> >>> I did go to classes on the computers in '92. They had Novell at the
> >>> University. We used DOS and
> >>> Lotus 1 2 3. I took a class in '98 on the Windows '95. The first
> personal
> >>> computer I had at home was Windows 95. No modem. I used the ones at
the
> >>> University to access the internet. Windows '98 was self-taught. I
never
> >>> opened a computer myself. I have so much electricity in my body, I let
> >>> someone else do the stuff in the tower for fear of *blowing up* the
> >>> components. I would like to learn more about the computer's
components.
> I
> >>> cannot get into those classes here. Those are available only to the
> computer
> >>> science, etc. students that are working for a degree.
> >>> Angel
> >>>
> >>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:%23pbTjpRCIHA.3884@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >>>> Well, I also cut my teeth a bit on some vacuum tube stuff (as a
> teenager).
> >>>> On some occasions when messing around with that electronics, it was
> truly a
> >>>> "shocking" experience (pun intended). Gotta be careful when
messin
> >>>> around with 300 volts DC inside there! It's something you never
> forget.
> >>>>

> >>>>
> >>>> Curt Christianson wrote:
> >>>>> LOL I do not have children, but I wager they may be older than Dan
> too.
> >>>>> (No cut-down Dan).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On a side note, I would love to at least audit Bill in Colo. class.
> Bet
> >>>>> I'd learn a lot.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Men of that vintage speak from experience, not a bunch of textbook
> >>>>> theoreticals.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> HTH,
> >>>>> Curt
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Windows Support Center
> >>>>> www.aumha.org
> >>>>> Practically Nerded,...
> >>>>> http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:%23356ZzPCIHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>> Hi Curt,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote in
message
> >>>>>> news:eKu1D7ICIHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>>> Hi Angel,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You're correct, Gary is on a long needed sabbatical (away from
NG's
> and
> >>>>>>> computers).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Angel sounds as though you may be a girl?, woman, either can be an
> >>>>>>> insult.(Insert foot).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> No, you did not insert foot. You are correct.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> And thank you for the vote of confidence. I'm not dead and gone
> yet, at
> >>>>>>> least until I get my very last dig in at an MVP, or PCR at least
> <vbg>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> BTW girl, (my apologies if wrong) I was at one time a two-time
> winner at
> >>>>>>> spelling. But that was then, and this is now. And...I still have
> my
> >>>>>>> wits about me.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> No, I never won any prizes. We HAD to know how to spell when I went
> to
> >>>>>> school. The teachers were very strict. I could even, up to now, be
> able
> >>>>>> to spell a word that anyone asked for the spelling. Lately I have
had
> to
> >>>>>> double check the spelling, by printing it and check to see if it
> looked
> >>>>>> right.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You know, *I* can still spot a bad spell-check too!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Spell check even tries to change my last name among other things.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Thanks for the fun, anytime you please. My e-mail can't get
> simpler.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You are welcome. I do not know your e-mail address, unless you are
> >>>>>> refering to the discussion group.
> >>>>>> Speaking of e-mail, I have children older than Dan!!
> >>>>>> Angel
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Curt
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Windows Support Center
> >>>>>>> www.aumha.org
> >>>>>>> Practically Nerded,...
> >>>>>>> http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>> news:%23Gw0DDDCIHA.5652@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >>>>>>>> Hi Dan and all others that think Curt is leaving us,
> >>>>>>>> Dan especially,
> >>>>>>>> Curt is NOT leaving us he may have a problem with typing
and
> some
> >>>>>>>> other problems. Sometimes I have problems with spelling and hands
> >>>>>>>> shaking while typing and other things I am doing. I am not on any
> >>>>>>>> meds. or most things I go to a Homeopathic Practitioner. I also
> study
> >>>>>>>> Homeopathy. I do not like to go to a regular Physician. That is a
> long
> >>>>>>>> story. I used to not need the spell check, I was a spelling
champ.
> I
> >>>>>>>> just use it because sometimes I do not hit the keys right and if
I
> >>>>>>>> sent the posts without checking you would not be able to decipher
> it.
> >>>>>>>> Sometimes spell check is wrong also. Lately, I have had to double
> >>>>>>>> check my writing in class. Sometimes I have trouble with
spelling.
> I
> >>>>>>>> wish my handwriting would
> >
> >>>>>>>> correct itself. Maybe they will come out with something that
would
> do
> >>>>>>>> that. If they sold pens pencils with build in spell check, I
would
> be
> >>>>>>>> one of the first to get them. That is a great idea for an
> invention.
> >>>>>>>> Well, we can dream can't we? Curt is not going anywhere.
> >>>>>>>> As far as Gary is concerned, I think Gary is taking a long
> deserved
> >>>>>>>> sebatica from the group.
> >>>>>>>> Angel
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>> news:844D3742-B06E-4BD0-8CC9-FD4AD67AF8C5@microsoft.com...
> >>>>>>>>> I will miss having another Windows user and wish you the best of
> good
> >>>>>>>>> fortune. Will you consider dual-booting by using a second hard
> drive
> >>>>>>>>> for compatibility with older dos games and educational programs?
> If
> >>>>>>>>> you cannot meet that requirement then will you use Virtual
Machine
> as
> >>>>>>>>> a second not as good requirement meeting. Please let me know
> since
> >>>>>>>>> you are a great guy and I will sorely miss you and your
> contributions
> >>>>>>>>> to this group.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Dan Weiser
> >>>>>>>>> New Mexico
> >>>>>>>>> APS Educational Assistant
>
>

Dan · Oct 8, 2007

Congratulations!

"Angel" wrote:

> Grandmother of 10
>
> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:58055A9D-AC6C-4AFF-979B-A02AFB3AB9E2@microsoft.com...
> > Cool, you can be like a grandmother as long as that is not too insulting
> to
> > you, Angel.
>
>
>

PCR · Oct 8, 2007

Dan wrote:
| Wow, am I the youngest guy here and what about PCR?

I'm probably still young enough to be Angel's grandson! But my own
grandmother died at 94!

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

Angel · Oct 8, 2007

Dan,
LOL,
I did not ask for them!! I never asked my children when they were going
to make me a grandmother.You will have to congratulate my children and their
wives. It was their idea!
Angel

"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Congratulations!
>
> "Angel" wrote:
>
> > Grandmother of 10
> >
> > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:58055A9D-AC6C-4AFF-979B-A02AFB3AB9E2@microsoft.com...
> > > Cool, you can be like a grandmother as long as that is not too
insulting
> > to
> > > you, Angel.
> >
> >
> >

Dan · Oct 8, 2007

<grin> Well, I hope you like being a grandmother.

Bill in Co. · Oct 8, 2007

Hi Angel, comments inline...

Angel wrote:
> Hi Bill,
> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:%231mQe9UCIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Angel wrote:
>>> Bill,
>>> They won't let us audit some of the classes. This is what the *Senior
>>> Guest Student* program is, auditing. I always buy the books and do the
stuff
>>> involved. Of course, they charge a fortune to be a regular student
unless
>>> you can get a grant.
>>>
>>> When I take the classes, some of the professors don't have you do the
>>> assignments or the tests. Teachers do not want to be bothered with
grading
>>> the papers involved.
>>
>> Yeah, but I can sorta understand their point of view too. But it
probably
>> doesn't seem fair to you, though.
>
> Some of the teachers would let you take the tests. I always did the exams
> for the computer classes to find out how well I was doing. Turned out
good!
> High grade, would have had 100% if I could have been able to use Endora.
They
> woild not allow me to use it because I was not a regular paying student.

Dang!

> CPR class I only missed 2 out of about 100 questions. That was after I had
a
> head injury in an accident (hit by an Ohio Bell truck!). I guess got a
high
> because I studied well. Some just passed by the skin of their teeth!

That is pretty good!!

> I had to do the test to get my Red Cross CPR card. I do not even know if
> that class is available at the University anymore. I should take a
refresher
> course because things have changed since then.
>
>> I was a college teacher for 30 years (probably still am, if I start
looking
>> a bit more). Although being a teacher these days, and some of the
things
>> you have to put up with today (in terms of what is and isn't allowed, the
>> expectations for the students, documentation, justification, what has to
be
>> on the syllabus, etc, etc), is something else. Not so good, anymore.
>
> With all that is going on in these times in schools, my Philosophy teacher
> said that he has to be very careful of what he does or says for fear that
> it will be taken the wrong way.

Yup.

> He loves his job.

Me too - really enjoyed it.
And the students liked me, too. It was mutual, and I miss it.

> He has always been a
> gentleman. He is 62 now. He has been teaching for a long time and still
> active and sharp. I am older than he is.

I'm his age (well, within a few months).

>>> I think I even study harder than some. I don't miss
>>> the classes unless it is icy . I still study for the classes even when I
>>> cannot go for some reason or other.
>>
>> That is good.
>> But you have to keep in mind that you, (like me), are old school, and
>> brought up with some of those old school values! (I was born in the
40's).
>
> I was born in the early 30's
>>
>>> Like you say, you can pay for the classes. You have to pass the
>>> entrance exam to do get into the classes that are reserved for students,
>>> AFAIK.
>>
>> Entrance exam to get into the classes? What entrance exam is that?
>
> I think you still have to do the ACT tests to enter the University. Not
sure
> what they are called now. I will inquire the first chance I get if they
are
> required.

Well, at this point I don't know if you would have to go through all of
that. (Besides which, maybe you still have your old SAT or ACT scores from
many moons ago, if you took them, then). But even if you didn't, it might
be worth looking into this a bit more - IF you are really interested in
getting into some of those classes. I would think at your age and with
your background, there might be some differences in exactly what is and
isn't required - especially since you wouldn't be pursuing a degree, per se.
I would think they could make some allowance for that, assuming there was
enough room in the classes (meaning, the classes still had seats available).

> I know that some classes are reserved for students that need the
> classes for graduation credits. Some are for graduate students only. One
of
> the classes that I am taking now is a Graduate Seminar which is meant for
> graduate students. The professor invited me to sit in on it and study in
it.
> This class is: "Virtue Ethics".
>>
>>
>>> Angel
>>>
>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> news:eHo9siSCIHA.324@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Interesting, Angel.
>>>> And they won't let you take such classes over there without "pursuing a
>>>> degree"? I would think you could register for them in some
non-degree
>>>> seeking status, as long as you met the prerequisites. But you'd
probably
>>>> have to pay for these, degree seeking or not.
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes you can audit courses, too, but the trouble with just
auditing
>>>> classes is that you really don't learn as much, since there is (often)
no
>>>> real committment to the course like there is when you are taking it for
a
>>>> grade.

>>>>
>>>> Angel wrote:
>>>>> Hi Bill,
>>>>> I did go to classes on the computers in '92. They had Novell at the
>>>>> University. We used DOS and
>>>>> Lotus 1 2 3. I took a class in '98 on the Windows '95. The first
>>>>> personal computer I had at home was Windows 95. No modem. I used the
ones
>>>>> at the University to access the internet. Windows '98 was self-taught.
I
>>>>> never opened a computer myself. I have so much electricity in my body,
I
>>>>> let someone else do the stuff in the tower for fear of *blowing up*
the
>>>>> components. I would like to learn more about the computer's
components. I
>>>>> cannot get into those classes here. Those are available only to the
>>>>> computer science, etc. students that are working for a degree.
>>>>> Angel
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%23pbTjpRCIHA.3884@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Well, I also cut my teeth a bit on some vacuum tube stuff (as a
>>>>>> teenager). On some occasions when messing around with that
electronics,
>>>>>> it was truly a "shocking" experience (pun intended). Gotta be
>>>>>> careful when messin around with 300 volts DC inside there! It's
>>>>>> something you never forget.

>>>>>>
>>>>>> Curt Christianson wrote:
>>>>>>> LOL I do not have children, but I wager they may be older than Dan
too.
>>>>>>> (No cut-down Dan).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On a side note, I would love to at least audit Bill in Colo. class.
Bet
>>>>>>> I'd learn a lot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Men of that vintage speak from experience, not a bunch of textbook
>>>>>>> theoreticals.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> HTH,
>>>>>>> Curt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Windows Support Center
>>>>>>> www.aumha.org
>>>>>>> Practically Nerded,...
>>>>>>> http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:%23356ZzPCIHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Hi Curt,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote in
message
>>>>>>>> news:eKu1D7ICIHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Hi Angel,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You're correct, Gary is on a long needed sabbatical (away from
NG's
>>>>>>>>> and computers).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Angel sounds as though you may be a girl?, woman, either can be an
>>>>>>>>> insult.(Insert foot).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, you did not insert foot. You are correct.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And thank you for the vote of confidence. I'm not dead and gone
yet,
>>>>>>>>> at least until I get my very last dig in at an MVP, or PCR at
least
>>>>>>>>> <vbg>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BTW girl, (my apologies if wrong) I was at one time a two-time
winner
>>>>>>>>> at spelling. But that was then, and this is now. And...I still
have
>>>>>>>>> my wits about me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, I never won any prizes. We HAD to know how to spell when I went
to
>>>>>>>> school. The teachers were very strict. I could even, up to now, be
able
>>>>>>>> to spell a word that anyone asked for the spelling. Lately I have
had
>>>>>>>> to double check the spelling, by printing it and check to see if it
>>>>>>>> looked right.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You know, *I* can still spot a bad spell-check too!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Spell check even tries to change my last name among other things.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the fun, anytime you please. My e-mail can't get
simpler.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are welcome. I do not know your e-mail address, unless you are
>>>>>>>> refering to the discussion group.
>>>>>>>> Speaking of e-mail, I have children older than Dan!!
>>>>>>>> Angel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Curt
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Windows Support Center
>>>>>>>>> www.aumha.org
>>>>>>>>> Practically Nerded,...
>>>>>>>>> http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:%23Gw0DDDCIHA.5652@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Dan and all others that think Curt is leaving us,
>>>>>>>>>> Dan especially,
>>>>>>>>>> Curt is NOT leaving us he may have a problem with typing
and
>>>>>>>>>> some other problems. Sometimes I have problems with spelling and
>>>>>>>>>> hands shaking while typing and other things I am doing. I am not
on
>>>>>>>>>> any meds. or most things I go to a Homeopathic Practitioner. I
also
>>>>>>>>>> study Homeopathy. I do not like to go to a regular Physician.
That
>>>>>>>>>> is a long story. I used to not need the spell check, I was a
>>>>>>>>>> spelling champ. I just use it because sometimes I do not hit the
>>>>>>>>>> keys right and if I sent the posts without checking you would not
be
>>>>>>>>>> able to decipher it. Sometimes spell check is wrong also. Lately,
I
>>>>>>>>>> have had to double check my writing in class. Sometimes I have
>>>>>>>>>> trouble with spelling. I wish my handwriting would
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> correct itself. Maybe they will come out with something that
would do
>>>>>>>>>> that. If they sold pens pencils with build in spell check, I
would be
>>>>>>>>>> one of the first to get them. That is a great idea for an
invention.
>>>>>>>>>> Well, we can dream can't we? Curt is not going anywhere.
>>>>>>>>>> As far as Gary is concerned, I think Gary is taking a long
>>>>>>>>>> deserved sebatica from the group.
>>>>>>>>>> Angel
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:844D3742-B06E-4BD0-8CC9-FD4AD67AF8C5@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> I will miss having another Windows user and wish you the best of
>>>>>>>>>>> good fortune. Will you consider dual-booting by using a second
>>>>>>>>>>> hard drive for compatibility with older dos games and
educational
>>>>>>>>>>> programs? If you cannot meet that requirement then will you use
>>>>>>>>>>> Virtual Machine as a second not as good requirement meeting.
>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know since you are a great guy and I will sorely
miss
>>>>>>>>>>> you and your contributions to this group.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dan Weiser
>>>>>>>>>>> New Mexico
>>>>>>>>>>> APS Educational Assistant

Curt Christianson · Oct 11, 2007

| > |
| > | Curt Christianson wrote:
| > | > LOL I do not have children, but I wager they may be older than Dan
too.
| > | > (No cut-down Dan).
| > | >
| > | > On a side note, I would love to at least audit Bill in Colo. class.
Bet
| > | I'd
| > | > learn a lot.
| > | >
| > | > Men of that vintage speak from experience, not a bunch of textbook
| > | > theoreticals.
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > HTH,
| > | > Curt
| > | >
| > | > Windows Support Center
| > | > www.aumha.org
| > | > Practically Nerded,...
| > | > http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm
| > | >
| > | > "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
| > | > news:%23356ZzPCIHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > | >> Hi Curt,
| > | >>
| > | >> "Curt Christianson" <curtchristnsn@NOSPAM.Yahoo.com> wrote in
message
| > | >> news:eKu1D7ICIHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > | >>> Hi Angel,
| > | >>>
| > | >>> You're correct, Gary is on a long needed sabbatical (away from
NG's
| > and
| > | >>> computers).
| > | >>>
| > | >>> Angel sounds as though you may be a girl?, woman, either can be an
| > | >>> insult.(Insert foot).
| > | >>
| > | >> No, you did not insert foot. You are correct.
| > | >>>
| > | >>> And thank you for the vote of confidence. I'm not dead and gone
yet,
| > at
| > | >>> least until I get my very last dig in at an MVP, or PCR at least
<vbg>
| > | >>>
| > | >>> BTW girl, (my apologies if wrong) I was at one time a two-time
winner
| > at
| > | >>> spelling. But that was then, and this is now. And...I still have
my
| > | wits
| > | >>> about me.
| > | >>
| > | >> No, I never won any prizes. We HAD to know how to spell when I went
to
| > | >> school. The teachers were very strict. I could even, up to now, be
able
| > | to
| > | >> spell a word that anyone asked for the spelling. Lately I have had
to
| > | double
| > | >> check the spelling, by printing it and check to see if it looked
right.
| > | >>>
| > | >>> You know, *I* can still spot a bad spell-check too!
| > | >>
| > | >> Spell check even tries to change my last name among other things.
| > | >>>
| > | >>> --
| > | >>> Thanks for the fun, anytime you please. My e-mail can't get
simpler.
| > | >>
| > | >> You are welcome. I do not know your e-mail address, unless you are
| > | refering
| > | >> to the discussion group.
| > | >> Speaking of e-mail, I have children older than Dan!!
| > | >> Angel
| > | >>
| > | >>> Curt
| > | >>>
| > | >>> Windows Support Center
| > | >>> www.aumha.org
| > | >>> Practically Nerded,...
| > | >>> http://dundats.mvps.org/Index.htm
| > | >>>
| > | >>> "Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
| > | >>> news:%23Gw0DDDCIHA.5652@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > | >>>> Hi Dan and all others that think Curt is leaving us,
| > | >>>> Dan especially,
| > | >>>> Curt is NOT leaving us he may have a problem with typing
and
| > some
| > | >>>> other problems. Sometimes I have problems with spelling and hands
| > | shaking
| > | >>>> while typing and other things I am doing. I am not on any meds.
or
| > most
| > | >>>> things I go to a Homeopathic Practitioner. I also study
Homeopathy. I
| > | do
| > | >>>> not like to go to a regular Physician. That is a long story. I
used
| > to
| > | >>>> not need the spell check, I was a spelling champ. I just use it
| > because
| > | >>>> sometimes I do not hit the keys right and if I sent the posts
without
| > | >>>> checking you would not be able to decipher it. Sometimes spell
check
| > is
| > | >>>> wrong also. Lately, I have had to double check my writing in
class.
| > | >>>> Sometimes I have trouble with spelling. I wish my handwriting
would
| > | >>>> correct itself. Maybe they will come out with something that
would do
| > | >>>> that. If they sold pens pencils with build in spell check, I
would be
| > | one
| > | >>>> of the first to get them. That is a great idea for an invention.
| > Well,
| > | we
| > | >>>> can dream can't we? Curt is not going anywhere.
| > | >>>> As far as Gary is concerned, I think Gary is taking a long
| > deserved
| > | >>>> sebatica from the group.
| > | >>>> Angel
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | >>>> news:844D3742-B06E-4BD0-8CC9-FD4AD67AF8C5@microsoft.com...
| > | >>>>> I will miss having another Windows user and wish you the best of
| > good
| > | >>>>> fortune. Will you consider dual-booting by using a second hard
| > drive
| > | for
| > | >>>>> compatibility with older dos games and educational programs? If
you
| > | >>>>> cannot meet that requirement then will you use Virtual Machine
as a
| > | >>>>> second not as good requirement meeting. Please let me know
since
| > you
| > | are
| > | >>>>> a great guy and I will sorely miss you and your contributions to
| > this
| > | >>>>> group.
| > | >>>>>
| > | >>>>> Dan Weiser
| > | >>>>> New Mexico
| > | >>>>> APS Educational Assistant
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
|

open letter to W98 users

Angel

Bill in Co.

Bill in Co.

MEB

Rick Chauvin

Angel

Bill in Co.

Dan

Dan

Dan

Sudy Nim

Angel

Angel

Angel

Dan

PCR

Angel

Dan

Bill in Co.

Curt Christianson

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