Flaw with Vista ... but nobody seems to care

D

doon

Just as in ...
http://forums.techarena.in/showpost.php?p=2904809&postcount=2

... I suffered under this problem. I had 'just' installed Vista Home
Premium several days ago, and in the ensuing days, familiarized myself
with it ... along with installing my personal programs.

One time I clicked on Recycle bin and noticed several 'garbage'
files/icons/etc. there that I had deleted ... so I thought of doing the
'first ever' Disk cleanup routine via Vista.

BIG MISTAKE !!!!

During the process, seem to recall seeing, along with the normal
recycle bin, temporary files and other normal Disk Cleanup
files/folders being listed, one called something with 'error reporting
files'. Not to know any better, I clicked on it, and all others, to
delete.

Again .... BIG MISTAKE !!!!

After the process, nothing ... saying again NOTHING worked regarding
personal installed files ... and other Vista processes were EXTREMELY
slow. After some time, having just installed Vista, I sent a Help
needed email describing the problem and received notification number of
receipt.

Over the next couple of days, the tech overseas in India tried to help
with no success and finally admitted she was forwarding it to a higher
up Indian technician.

Well, that tech sent me a basic boiler plate out-sourced response of,
basically, 'it's not our problem' ..... in other words, "don't bother
us".

But being persistent, and in tune with her closing comment regarding
possibly helping me to do a clean install with my upgrade disk, which I
did, I then re-traced my steps ... and today have once again come across
the culprit.

Basically, what I call a 'glitch' in Vista.

Prior to this, I also posted to the Microsoft forum section for MVP's
... and in a word or 2, got the same type of response ... just worded
nicer.

So, here I sit ... along with the other poster of above, with a flaw in
Vista and no interest if forthcoming from Microsoft. Looks like the
public will just have to suffer the trauma as I and he did....... a
NIGHTMARE.

In my case I have tracked it down to a specific utility program I "was"
using ... as is likely the same with the other poster ... albeit, likely
different programs or processes.

So to any MVP, or Microsoft employee, any comments. I'd like to help
MSN, but the reponses so far fail to impress.
Chuck


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Carey Frisch [MVP]

You state: "In my case I have tracked it down to a specific utility program I "was"
using..."

So the third-party "utility program" was the root cause of your
Windows Vista corruption? How does that equate to a "flaw"
in Vista?

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Windows Shell/User

---------------------------------------------------------------

"doon" wrote:
Just as in ...
http://forums.techarena.in/showpost.php?p=2904809&postcount=2

... I suffered under this problem. I had 'just' installed Vista Home
Premium several days ago, and in the ensuing days, familiarized myself
with it ... along with installing my personal programs.

One time I clicked on Recycle bin and noticed several 'garbage'
files/icons/etc. there that I had deleted ... so I thought of doing the
'first ever' Disk cleanup routine via Vista.

BIG MISTAKE !!!!

During the process, seem to recall seeing, along with the normal
recycle bin, temporary files and other normal Disk Cleanup
files/folders being listed, one called something with 'error reporting
files'. Not to know any better, I clicked on it, and all others, to
delete.

Again .... BIG MISTAKE !!!!

After the process, nothing ... saying again NOTHING worked regarding
personal installed files ... and other Vista processes were EXTREMELY
slow. After some time, having just installed Vista, I sent a Help
needed email describing the problem and received notification number of
receipt.

Over the next couple of days, the tech overseas in India tried to help
with no success and finally admitted she was forwarding it to a higher
up Indian technician.

Well, that tech sent me a basic boiler plate out-sourced response of,
basically, 'it's not our problem' ..... in other words, "don't bother
us".

But being persistent, and in tune with her closing comment regarding
possibly helping me to do a clean install with my upgrade disk, which I
did, I then re-traced my steps ... and today have once again come across
the culprit.

Basically, what I call a 'glitch' in Vista.

Prior to this, I also posted to the Microsoft forum section for MVP's
... and in a word or 2, got the same type of response ... just worded
nicer.

So, here I sit ... along with the other poster of above, with a flaw in
Vista and no interest if forthcoming from Microsoft. Looks like the
public will just have to suffer the trauma as I and he did....... a
NIGHTMARE.

In my case I have tracked it down to a specific utility program I "was"
using ... as is likely the same with the other poster ... albeit, likely
different programs or processes.

So to any MVP, or Microsoft employee, any comments. I'd like to help
MSN, but the reponses so far fail to impress.
Chuck


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John Inzer

doon wrote:
> Just as in ...
> http://forums.techarena.in/showpost.php?p=2904809&postcount=2
>
> .. I suffered under this problem. I had 'just' installed Vista Home
> Premium several days ago, and in the ensuing days, familiarized myself
> with it ... along with installing my personal programs.
>
> One time I clicked on Recycle bin and noticed several 'garbage'
> files/icons/etc. there that I had deleted ... so I thought of doing
> the 'first ever' Disk cleanup routine via Vista.
>
> BIG MISTAKE !!!!
>
> During the process, seem to recall seeing, along with the normal
> recycle bin, temporary files and other normal Disk Cleanup
> files/folders being listed, one called something with 'error reporting
> files'. Not to know any better, I clicked on it, and all others, to
> delete.
>
> Again .... BIG MISTAKE !!!!
>
> After the process, nothing ... saying again NOTHING worked regarding
> personal installed files ... and other Vista processes were EXTREMELY
> slow. After some time, having just installed Vista, I sent a Help
> needed email describing the problem and received notification number
> of receipt.
>
> Over the next couple of days, the tech overseas in India tried to help
> with no success and finally admitted she was forwarding it to a
> higher up Indian technician.
>
> Well, that tech sent me a basic boiler plate out-sourced response of,
> basically, 'it's not our problem' ..... in other words, "don't bother
> us".
>
> But being persistent, and in tune with her closing comment regarding
> possibly helping me to do a clean install with my upgrade disk, which
> I did, I then re-traced my steps ... and today have once again come
> across the culprit.
>
> Basically, what I call a 'glitch' in Vista.
>
> Prior to this, I also posted to the Microsoft forum section for MVP's
> .. and in a word or 2, got the same type of response ... just worded
> nicer.
>
> So, here I sit ... along with the other poster of above, with a flaw
> in Vista and no interest if forthcoming from Microsoft. Looks like
> the public will just have to suffer the trauma as I and he did.......
> a NIGHTMARE.
>
> In my case I have tracked it down to a specific utility program I
> "was" using ... as is likely the same with the other poster ...
> albeit, likely different programs or processes.
>
> So to any MVP, or Microsoft employee, any comments. I'd like to help
> MSN, but the reponses so far fail to impress.
> Chuck
=====================================
What was the name of the file ("called something
with 'error reporting files") that caused the problem
and what is the name of the utility program that
sent it to the recycle bin?

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Digital Image
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I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
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J

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

You did not give any specifics in the thread you referenced.

"a specific utility program"
Exactly what program?
Is it a Microsoft utility designed for Windows Vista?
If not and it is 3rd party, when you were told "not our problem", you
were probably given the correct answer.

What did the creator of the utility say when you asked them?

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http://www.dts-l.org


"doon" <doon.2yo73e@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
news:doon.2yo73e@DoNotSpam.com...
>
> Just as in ...
> http://forums.techarena.in/showpost.php?p=2904809&postcount=2
>
> .. I suffered under this problem. I had 'just' installed Vista Home
> Premium several days ago, and in the ensuing days, familiarized
> myself
> with it ... along with installing my personal programs.
>
> One time I clicked on Recycle bin and noticed several 'garbage'
> files/icons/etc. there that I had deleted ... so I thought of doing
> the
> 'first ever' Disk cleanup routine via Vista.
>
> BIG MISTAKE !!!!
>
> During the process, seem to recall seeing, along with the normal
> recycle bin, temporary files and other normal Disk Cleanup
> files/folders being listed, one called something with 'error
> reporting
> files'. Not to know any better, I clicked on it, and all others, to
> delete.
>
> Again .... BIG MISTAKE !!!!
>
> After the process, nothing ... saying again NOTHING worked regarding
> personal installed files ... and other Vista processes were
> EXTREMELY
> slow. After some time, having just installed Vista, I sent a Help
> needed email describing the problem and received notification number
> of
> receipt.
>
> Over the next couple of days, the tech overseas in India tried to
> help
> with no success and finally admitted she was forwarding it to a
> higher
> up Indian technician.
>
> Well, that tech sent me a basic boiler plate out-sourced response
> of,
> basically, 'it's not our problem' ..... in other words, "don't
> bother
> us".
>
> But being persistent, and in tune with her closing comment regarding
> possibly helping me to do a clean install with my upgrade disk,
> which I
> did, I then re-traced my steps ... and today have once again come
> across
> the culprit.
>
> Basically, what I call a 'glitch' in Vista.
>
> Prior to this, I also posted to the Microsoft forum section for
> MVP's
> .. and in a word or 2, got the same type of response ... just worded
> nicer.
>
> So, here I sit ... along with the other poster of above, with a flaw
> in
> Vista and no interest if forthcoming from Microsoft. Looks like the
> public will just have to suffer the trauma as I and he did....... a
> NIGHTMARE.
>
> In my case I have tracked it down to a specific utility program I
> "was"
> using ... as is likely the same with the other poster ... albeit,
> likely
> different programs or processes.
>
> So to any MVP, or Microsoft employee, any comments. I'd like to
> help
> MSN, but the reponses so far fail to impress.
> Chuck
>
>
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F

flambe

Although Microsoft VPs will blame problems on your program the fact is that
Vista, the Microsoft OS that took more than 5 years to come out, ends up
being incompatible with otherwise mainstream programs and has a structure
for which most OEMs have difficutly writing drivers.
This not Microsoft's fault how?
 
F

Frank

flambe wrote:
> Although Microsoft VPs will blame problems on your program the fact is that
> Vista, the Microsoft OS that took more than 5 years to come out, ends up
> being incompatible with otherwise mainstream programs and has a structure
> for which most OEMs have difficutly writing drivers.
> This not Microsoft's fault how?
>
>
Who told you that little gem of a lie?
Frank
 
D

doon

I was trying to be politically correct by not naming the program but
since asked, presume it to be OK. It is Uniblue Suite which is a 3
mode of registry cleaner, spy catcher and speed booster. If I mistated
something regarding MS's flaw, then perhaps I stand correct by stating
it is a shared flaw since on Uniblue's site, they reflect they are a
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner ... which sounds to me that perhaps
both are culpible.

Today, after fighting with the process now for several days, I totally
redid everything, first clean install of Vista, and then one by one my
programs. After each, I did the Clean Disk again until, with Uniblue,
the aforementioned ... precisely named files ... "Per User Windows
Error Reporting Files" ... and one other of almost the same name, with
one word being different ... can't recall it now due to having removed
Uniblue by doing a Restore process just prior to it's installation.
Sorry.

Hope this helps those of you that responded. All of this information
mentioned above was provided to the Indian technican, in explicit
detail, and was not apparently used to track down the problem.

And again, the other poster to this forum also advised he had sustained
the same problem. There may have been other postings to the net but
when I did my Google and came across this one, did not go any further.
doon


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Michael Palumbo

"doon" <doon.2yocnf@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
news:doon.2yocnf@DoNotSpam.com...
>
> I was trying to be politically correct by not naming the program but
> since asked, presume it to be OK. It is Uniblue Suite which is a 3
> mode of registry cleaner, spy catcher and speed booster. If I mistated
> something regarding MS's flaw, then perhaps I stand correct by stating
> it is a shared flaw since on Uniblue's site, they reflect they are a
> Microsoft Gold Certified Partner ... which sounds to me that perhaps
> both are culpible.
>
> Today, after fighting with the process now for several days, I totally
> redid everything, first clean install of Vista, and then one by one my
> programs. After each, I did the Clean Disk again until, with Uniblue,
> the aforementioned ... precisely named files ... "Per User Windows
> Error Reporting Files" ... and one other of almost the same name, with
> one word being different ... can't recall it now due to having removed
> Uniblue by doing a Restore process just prior to it's installation.
> Sorry.
>
> Hope this helps those of you that responded. All of this information
> mentioned above was provided to the Indian technican, in explicit
> detail, and was not apparently used to track down the problem.
>
> And again, the other poster to this forum also advised he had sustained
> the same problem. There may have been other postings to the net but
> when I did my Google and came across this one, did not go any further.
> doon
>
>
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> http://forums.techarena.in
>

Registry cleaners, by and large, often will break more than they fix by
deleting registry entries that are needed either by the OS, certain entries
for programs the cleaner doesn't recognize (and assumes aren't needed), or
often both.

Many of the reviews on Windows Marketplace actually report this software as
slowing their systems down instead of speeding it up . . . usually when a
program makes claims like this they aren't being totally genuine . . . I'm
remembering all the "RAM Defragmenters" and "Memory Boost" type programs
that were popular, and useless, back in the mid-nineties . . . "Speed up
your computer! Better memory management with memory defragmentation . . .
will make your computer up to 100% faster!" It was all smoke and mirrors
that usually hurt performance by adding a useless TSR to your system, eating
up the very RAM it was supposed to be optimizing.

Mic
 
J

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

"Microsoft Gold Certified Partner"
That refers to the organization and nothing about specific programs
they write.

Have you checked with the program manufacturer about Windows Vista
compatibility?
Are there any applicable updates to the program?

Speed boosters...usually don't since there are potential bottlenecks
beyond software.
Often they slow the process down if anything.

spy catcher...If it is good and reputable...

Registry cleaners...Use them with caution. Never use on unless you
have a full understanding how it works.
Also be sure to use the registry cleaners included back up feature so
if there are problems (like you encountered) you can quickly undo
them.
My guess this component caused your problems.
Also you should never let a registry cleaner delete anything unless
you know exactly what it does and why it is not needed.
Do not rely on the registry cleaner for that information.
Most suggest not using a registry cleaner because of issues like yours
and also because benefits are little to nonexistent.

I have never used the above program.
But from what you say, I never will.
2 of 3 components I see absolutely no value and even see some
liability.


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"doon" <doon.2yocnf@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
news:doon.2yocnf@DoNotSpam.com...
>
> I was trying to be politically correct by not naming the program
> but
> since asked, presume it to be OK. It is Uniblue Suite which is a 3
> mode of registry cleaner, spy catcher and speed booster. If I
> mistated
> something regarding MS's flaw, then perhaps I stand correct by
> stating
> it is a shared flaw since on Uniblue's site, they reflect they are a
> Microsoft Gold Certified Partner ... which sounds to me that perhaps
> both are culpible.
>
> Today, after fighting with the process now for several days, I
> totally
> redid everything, first clean install of Vista, and then one by one
> my
> programs. After each, I did the Clean Disk again until, with
> Uniblue,
> the aforementioned ... precisely named files ... "Per User Windows
> Error Reporting Files" ... and one other of almost the same name,
> with
> one word being different ... can't recall it now due to having
> removed
> Uniblue by doing a Restore process just prior to it's installation.
> Sorry.
>
> Hope this helps those of you that responded. All of this
> information
> mentioned above was provided to the Indian technican, in explicit
> detail, and was not apparently used to track down the problem.
>
> And again, the other poster to this forum also advised he had
> sustained
> the same problem. There may have been other postings to the net
> but
> when I did my Google and came across this one, did not go any
> further.
> doon
>
>
> --
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Charlie Tame

Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
> "Microsoft Gold Certified Partner"
> That refers to the organization and nothing about specific programs they
> write.

Maybe I'm going blind but looking at a Google search shows their
official site as uniblue.com, however this does not exist and the Google
search URL leads instead to :-

http://www.liutilities(dot)com/products/campaigns/ppc/ub/general/?gclid=COiT6PfomY8CFQ6CPAodYQ1ieg

(I broke the link with (dot) by the way since I am currently using an OS
that couldn't see scripts and don't want to post crap someone might hit
by accident)

Where I see no links except download trial and buy full version...

No "About us" no "Contact us" no "Privacy Policy" no nothing at all really.

I respectfully suggest that it would be unwise to give any of this
software access to the bathroom without some better info than that.

On the subject of snake oil and bathrooms

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hxSXzcuNu8wsoi8jRQCbnm2vxCEw
 
D

doon

Just to clarify, when you say ...

-.... you should never let a registry cleaner delete anything unless
you know exactly what it does and why it is not needed. Do not rely on
the registry cleaner for that information.-

.... that is not the case here. I did not, as posted, let Uniblue do
anything to my system except for the installation of course. The
'delete' option was available for folders/files that Vista reflected
... within Vista's 'Disk Cleanup' utility.

And yes, I've sent in a query regarding the issue to them using their
'Contact Us' link. But, being a non-USA firm, presume it will take a
day or so. In the meantime, rest assurred I've uninstalled it via
Restore process to prior (clean) status.


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dennis@home

"doon" <doon.2yocnf@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
news:doon.2yocnf@DoNotSpam.com...
>
> I was trying to be politically correct by not naming the program but
> since asked, presume it to be OK. It is Uniblue Suite which is a 3
> mode of registry cleaner, spy catcher and speed booster. If I mistated
> something regarding MS's flaw, then perhaps I stand correct by stating
> it is a shared flaw since on Uniblue's site, they reflect they are a
> Microsoft Gold Certified Partner ... which sounds to me that perhaps
> both are culpible.

You should never run any optimizers that are not designed for your system.
You wouldn't run a OS X tool on XP and expect it to work so why would you
run an XP tool and expect it to work on Vista?

Make no mistake windows Vista and Windows XP are not the same and anything
that tinkers with the internals without knowing what it is doing will break
something.

You may well find an application will work fine on a different OS,
especially in the windows family, it does not mean system utilities will.

So being politically correct I would put this down to a need for user
training.
 
L

Leythos

In article <doon.2yocnf@DoNotSpam.com>, doon.2yocnf@DoNotSpam.com
says...
> It is Uniblue Suite which is a 3
> mode of registry cleaner, spy catcher and speed booster.

So, it's not a flaw in Vista, but a flaw in a crappy program that you
should not be running on ANY PC to start with.

You should have made the subject "I found another poorly designed
program that doesn't work on Vista"

If you check their website, crappy as it is, it doesn't indicate that
the software is compatible with Vista.

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dennis@home

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
news:MPG.2181d352990e86f198968b@adfree.usenet.com...
> In article <doon.2yocnf@DoNotSpam.com>, doon.2yocnf@DoNotSpam.com
> says...
>> It is Uniblue Suite which is a 3
>> mode of registry cleaner, spy catcher and speed booster.
>
> So, it's not a flaw in Vista, but a flaw in a crappy program that you
> should not be running on ANY PC to start with.
>
> You should have made the subject "I found another poorly designed
> program that doesn't work on Vista"
>
> If you check their website, crappy as it is, it doesn't indicate that
> the software is compatible with Vista.

The new versions does claim to be.
However I would think thrice before paying to upgrade.
 
D

doon

QUOTE:
_\"If_you_check_their_website,_crappy_as_it_is,_it_doesn't_indicate_that_the_software_is_compatible_with_Vista.\"

AND

\"You_should_never_run_any_optimizers_that_are_not_designed_for_your_system.
You_wouldn't_run_a_OS_X_tool_on_XP_and_expect_it_to_work_so_why_would_you
run_an_XP_tool_and_expect_it_to_work_on_Vista?\"_

DIRECT FROM THE WEB SITE....[/B]
HTTP://WWW.LIUTILITIES.COM/PRODUCTS/TRIAL/
SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS:
700 MHZ
256MB RAM
65MB FREE HARD DISK SPACE
WINDOWS 2000 / XP /VISTA
And then there's this ....
http://www.liutilities.com/support/faq/categories/generalquestions/#
-

uniblue systems ltd achieved microsoft certified partner status, in
recognition of its expertise, high standards of development, and
delivery of performance and utility software. as a certified partner,
uniblue has the proven ability to serve customers at the highest level
within a culture of credibility and reliability, whilst at the same
time demonstrating technical expertise, strategic thinking and
leading-edge technology. microsoft certified partners benefit from
dedicated 24 x 7 x 365 support from microsoft within a partnering
framework this allows the business to access a variety of valuable and
technologically sound resources quickly and easily.

in 2007, uniblue systems has triumphed once again, winning a
prestigious award for the second consecutive year. the
minneapolis-based e-commerce leader, digital river inc., held their
network sales summit in palm springs, usa, which uniblue attended. over
fifty software companies were represented at the event, which is held
bi-annually. whilst there, uniblue was presented with the ice award for
best strategic e-marketing performance of the year, to add to last
year's award for best network sales performance

the uniblue site is tested and certified daily to pass the hacker safe
security scan. to help address concerns about hacker access to
confidential data, the \"live\" hacker safe mark appears only when a
web site meets the hacker safe standard. research indicates sites
remotely scanned for known vulnerabilities on a daily basis, such as
those earning hacker safe certification, can prevent over 99% of hacker
crime.-

Having now been castigated by a couple of fellows who seem to want to
jump to improper statements and apparently know nothing about what they
post, my informational posting, and heading, of it being a shared FLAW
between MS and Uniblue remains !!!!!!

Ironically, my further google search lead me to numerous other users
describing precisely the same problem I've commented on. Even more
interesting is that their comments, unlike mine regarding the
installation of a program (Uniblue), ALL talked about the same area of
flaw (with no mention of involvement with a program) ... that being
something having to do with a conflict between Disk Clean up on Vista,
and the process of Windows Error Reporting Files ... with the results
all coming back and indicating the computer has extremely large storage
space (sometimes even more than the size of the hd) being available if
the folder ... as detected by Vista ... is deleted.

In my case, the final result that came up produced a total of 4 LARGE
files/folders ...
_System_archived_windows_error_reporting_files
System_queued_windows_error_reporting_files
Per_user_archived_windows_error_reporting_files_
and
_Per_user_queued_windows_error_reporting_files_

Each one reflected 41.8 gb whereas my hd is 160gb ... and has been
partitioned into 2 sections of approx. 79gb each.

So, as above, I stand by my statement that there is something going on
within Vista regarding these issues no matter how insolent a couple of
responders want to be.
doon

Everything I did in my due diligence leads back to MS no matter what.


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Jupiter Jones [MVP]

Regardless of how they received their Partner status, nothing in that
site or what you wrote guarantees there will not be problems with
Registry cleaners, not even their own.
The statement is very generic.
However if you want to know what a Microsoft Certified Partner is,
check what Microsoft has to say so you know you are getting it first
hand not some interpretation that makes their customers feel good:
https://partner.microsoft.com/global/program/programoverview/certifiedpartner
What you quoted is certainly not from Microsoft and I doubt it is an
exact quote from Uniblue or any reputable organization.

You have already confirmed the problem is with Uniblue.
There is little to be done other than keep the program off until they
respond.
If they can not or will not respond, your only option is to remove the
product unless you are willing to deal with what ever it does.

As far a culpable, Microsoft may be to the point that the Partner
status mislead you in a mistaken belief.
However nowhere is there anything from Microsoft certifying that
program, perhaps there is a reason...

At this point, it is up to Uniblue if they want their program
compatible with Windows Vista.
They may say it is, but your experience suggests otherwise.
The others you reference, if they are not using the program you have
already confirmed to cause your problem, you have little in common and
their cause is different from yours.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"doon" <doon.2ypnve@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
news:doon.2ypnve@DoNotSpam.com...
>
> QUOTE:
> _\"If_you_check_their_website,_crappy_as_it_is,_it_doesn't_indicate_that_the_software_is_compatible_with_Vista.\"
>
> AND
>
> \"You_should_never_run_any_optimizers_that_are_not_designed_for_your_system.
> You_wouldn't_run_a_OS_X_tool_on_XP_and_expect_it_to_work_so_why_would_you
> run_an_XP_tool_and_expect_it_to_work_on_Vista?\"_
>
> DIRECT FROM THE WEB SITE....[/B]
> HTTP://WWW.LIUTILITIES.COM/PRODUCTS/TRIAL/
> SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS:
> 700 MHZ
> 256MB RAM
> 65MB FREE HARD DISK SPACE
> WINDOWS 2000 / XP /VISTA
> And then there's this ....
> http://www.liutilities.com/support/faq/categories/generalquestions/#
> -
>
> uniblue systems ltd achieved microsoft certified partner status, in
> recognition of its expertise, high standards of development, and
> delivery of performance and utility software. as a certified
> partner,
> uniblue has the proven ability to serve customers at the highest
> level
> within a culture of credibility and reliability, whilst at the same
> time demonstrating technical expertise, strategic thinking and
> leading-edge technology. microsoft certified partners benefit from
> dedicated 24 x 7 x 365 support from microsoft within a partnering
> framework this allows the business to access a variety of valuable
> and
> technologically sound resources quickly and easily.
>
> in 2007, uniblue systems has triumphed once again, winning a
> prestigious award for the second consecutive year. the
> minneapolis-based e-commerce leader, digital river inc., held their
> network sales summit in palm springs, usa, which uniblue attended.
> over
> fifty software companies were represented at the event, which is
> held
> bi-annually. whilst there, uniblue was presented with the ice award
> for
> best strategic e-marketing performance of the year, to add to last
> year's award for best network sales performance
>
> the uniblue site is tested and certified daily to pass the hacker
> safe
> security scan. to help address concerns about hacker access to
> confidential data, the \"live\" hacker safe mark appears only when a
> web site meets the hacker safe standard. research indicates sites
> remotely scanned for known vulnerabilities on a daily basis, such as
> those earning hacker safe certification, can prevent over 99% of
> hacker
> crime.-
>
> Having now been castigated by a couple of fellows who seem to want
> to
> jump to improper statements and apparently know nothing about what
> they
> post, my informational posting, and heading, of it being a shared
> FLAW
> between MS and Uniblue remains !!!!!!
>
> Ironically, my further google search lead me to numerous other users
> describing precisely the same problem I've commented on. Even more
> interesting is that their comments, unlike mine regarding the
> installation of a program (Uniblue), ALL talked about the same area
> of
> flaw (with no mention of involvement with a program) ... that being
> something having to do with a conflict between Disk Clean up on
> Vista,
> and the process of Windows Error Reporting Files ... with the
> results
> all coming back and indicating the computer has extremely large
> storage
> space (sometimes even more than the size of the hd) being available
> if
> the folder ... as detected by Vista ... is deleted.
>
> In my case, the final result that came up produced a total of 4
> LARGE
> files/folders ...
> _System_archived_windows_error_reporting_files
> System_queued_windows_error_reporting_files
> Per_user_archived_windows_error_reporting_files_
> and
> _Per_user_queued_windows_error_reporting_files_
>
> Each one reflected 41.8 gb whereas my hd is 160gb ... and has been
> partitioned into 2 sections of approx. 79gb each.
>
> So, as above, I stand by my statement that there is something going
> on
> within Vista regarding these issues no matter how insolent a couple
> of
> responders want to be.
> doon
>
> Everything I did in my due diligence leads back to MS no matter
> what.
>
>
> --
> doon
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doon

Thanks for the input JJ. I appreciate it and agree with much of it.

But regarding -"What you quoted is certainly not from Microsoft and I
doubt it is an exact quote from Uniblue or any reputable
organization."-, it is a precise cut-n-paste section direct from
Uniblue's web site (as was my other reference that was pasted). Also,
as I advised in a more recent post, I am now back to it being totally a
flaw somehow with Vista.

Why? Do a google on 'per user archived' or 'per user queued' ...
phrases that pop up inside Disk Cleanup's listing ... and there will be
many postings addressing the precise problem ... all presumably
non-Uniblue associated, but the posters particular computer which
undoubtedly do not all have Uniblue ... in that none of them mentioned
as I have. Many blogs and forum scattered all about the web.

And yes, I am avoiding Uniblue ... along with not using Disk Cleanup
ever again until I read that Vista has addressed the issue. There is
obviously some flaw within Vista as related to various other user
programs in my case Uniblue. So while others herein are caustic
toward it, I have used it for quite some time under the XP system and
never once had a problem like this and was very pleased during this
usage with how it improved my computer's XP Pro installation.

What would be nice is if there was a way to report it directly to MS
rather than having to utilize the out-sourced people over in India who,
obviously, prefer to not be involved in a complicated situation.
Unfortunately, in going thru MS's contact buttons, that is where one
winds up.
doon


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Leythos

In article <doon.2ypnve@DoNotSpam.com>, doon.2ypnve@DoNotSpam.com
says...
> Ironically, my further google search lead me to numerous other users
> describing precisely the same problem I've commented on.

That's because the software is crap, has nothing to do with Vista, and
should not be used.

Yes, there were requirement, I missed them, but there does not seem to
be anything on that website that any reasonably qualified technical
person would advise you to install.

--

Leythos
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
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