Flaw with Vista ... but nobody seems to care

[Charlie Wilkes]

On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 10:22:40 -0400, MICHAEL wrote:

> * Adam Albright:
>> On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 07:57:48 GMT, Charlie Wilkes
>> <charlie_wilkes@users.easynews.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 00:32:59 -0500, Adam Albright wrote:
>>>> Worse their favorite pastime was to lie in wait for some "newbie" to
>>>> visit the group and ask a question. This group of bozos would jump
>>>> all over the guy and do the same stupid things the MVP and fanboy
>>>> crowd do here, but worse in they would unasked visit the person's web
>>>> site then take the URL and run it through a HTML Validator and then
>>>> post the errors it found in the newsgroup and then make fun of the
>>>> newbie.
>>> Yeah. The same thing happens in the pet newsgroups. A newbie will
>>> innocently post some questions or comments relating to his/her cat,
>>> and the resident cat ladies will look for an excuse to find fault...
>>> you should have taken your cat to the vet, you shouldn't let your cat
>>> go outside, you are an ANIMAL ABUSER!
>>>
>>> It's just human nature I guess. But I would think Microsoft might
>>> want to put one or two bona fides on this group, to really try to help
>>> with the technical problems. These pseudo-experts are perceived as
>>> having a Microsoft imprimatur because of the "MVP" tag, but they are
>>> further antagonizing Microsoft customers who are already frustrated.
>>> That's bad for the shareholders.
>>>
>> You are right of course. Being a Microsoft stockholder I don't like
>> what the MVP gang has done to tarnish Microsoft's already less than
>> stellar reputation. At least the stock pushed through $31, but with
>
>> Friday's stock market crash didn't last long. :-(
>
> Crash? A true "crash" just had an anniversary.
>
> Monday, October 19, 1987, the DJIA fell 22.6%. That would be about 3,000
> points in today's market.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Monday_(1987)
>
> http://money.cnn.com/2007/10/16/markets/stocks_moderncrash/index.htm?
postversion=2007101809
>
>
> -Michael

The whole world is waiting for Monday a.m., or actually Sunday night for
the early time zones. There are some indications we might see another
washout.

Charlie

 

[MICHAEL]

* Charlie Wilkes:
> On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 10:22:40 -0400, MICHAEL wrote:
>
>> * Adam Albright:
>>> On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 07:57:48 GMT, Charlie Wilkes
>>> <charlie_wilkes@users.easynews.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 00:32:59 -0500, Adam Albright wrote:
>>>>> Worse their favorite pastime was to lie in wait for some "newbie" to
>>>>> visit the group and ask a question. This group of bozos would jump
>>>>> all over the guy and do the same stupid things the MVP and fanboy
>>>>> crowd do here, but worse in they would unasked visit the person's web
>>>>> site then take the URL and run it through a HTML Validator and then
>>>>> post the errors it found in the newsgroup and then make fun of the
>>>>> newbie.
>>>> Yeah. The same thing happens in the pet newsgroups. A newbie will
>>>> innocently post some questions or comments relating to his/her cat,
>>>> and the resident cat ladies will look for an excuse to find fault...
>>>> you should have taken your cat to the vet, you shouldn't let your cat
>>>> go outside, you are an ANIMAL ABUSER!
>>>>
>>>> It's just human nature I guess. But I would think Microsoft might
>>>> want to put one or two bona fides on this group, to really try to help
>>>> with the technical problems. These pseudo-experts are perceived as
>>>> having a Microsoft imprimatur because of the "MVP" tag, but they are
>>>> further antagonizing Microsoft customers who are already frustrated.
>>>> That's bad for the shareholders.
>>>>
>>> You are right of course. Being a Microsoft stockholder I don't like
>>> what the MVP gang has done to tarnish Microsoft's already less than
>>> stellar reputation. At least the stock pushed through $31, but with
>>> Friday's stock market crash didn't last long. :-(
>> Crash? A true "crash" just had an anniversary.
>>
>> Monday, October 19, 1987, the DJIA fell 22.6%. That would be about 3,000
>> points in today's market.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Monday_(1987)
>>
>> http://money.cnn.com/2007/10/16/markets/stocks_moderncrash/index.htm?
> postversion=2007101809
>>
>> -Michael
>
> The whole world is waiting for Monday a.m., or actually Sunday night for
> the early time zones. There are some indications we might see another
> washout.
>
> Charlie

With the extreme tensions between Turkey and the Kurdish rebels (PKK),
that could be a trigger that causes some massive selling tomorrow.
I wouldn't be surprised to see oil hit $95 to $100, either.

People panic, mainly the big investors. Small individual investors typically
just wait it out, like I do. Prior to Sept.11, 2001, the US stock market was
already going through a major correction due to the "irrational exuberance"
of the late 90s. Once the US markets reopened after 9/11, the DJIA lost about
1300 points that week. The market actually started to recover a lot, then started
another massive dive because of the buildup to the Iraq war and the major
company scandals, like Enron and WorldCom. Bottoming out around 7300.
Then shot up again to almost 9,000 before falling again to about 7500.
Of course, it has since recovered nicely. Just as it always does.
Even with that massive 22.6% drop in 1987, the DJIA recovered quickly.
http://stockcharts.com/charts/historical/djia2000.html
http://stockcharts.com/charts/historical/djia19802000.html
http://stockcharts.com/charts/historical/djia1900.html
DJIA 1900 - 2006

The old adage- if you don't have to sell, then don't worry. Let everyone
else get their panties all twisted. Similar to how some folks are feeling
in certain areas of the US where housing values have fallen. If you aren't
looking to sell your house, then stop worrying. Many "experts" predicted
that after such a historical rise in values across the country, the bubble
would burst... well, it did in a lot of areas. But just like the stock market,
those values will start to rise again.... sooner or later.

That's all today for the stock market lessons. -)
Thanks for reading.

Take care,

Michael

 

[Adam Albright]

On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 10:22:04 -0400, MICHAEL <u158627_emr2@dslr.net>
wrote:

>> -Michael
>>
>> The whole world is waiting for Monday a.m., or actually Sunday night for
>> the early time zones. There are some indications we might see another
>> washout.
>>
>> Charlie
>
>With the extreme tensions between Turkey and the Kurdish rebels (PKK),
>that could be a trigger that causes some massive selling tomorrow.
>I wouldn't be surprised to see oil hit $95 to $100, either.

Just curious, anybody else seeing a spike in gasoline prices? In the
Chicago area, prices have been trending down, which considering where
oil prices are going doesn't compute. I'm not too worried, my Prius is
averaging 52 MPG and I'm loving it. Heck, I can't remember when I
bought gas last and I still got over half a tank full. -)

>People panic, mainly the big investors. Small individual investors typically
>just wait it out, like I do.

I remember the 1987 Crash well. Then I still lived in Chicago and was
driving home from the office in Naperville. One of the news stations
gave market updates every fifteen minutes. Not fun to hear it going
down, down, down.

Jim Cramer always a very calm voice -)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWksEJQEYVU

has the balls to say it like it is regarding the Fed Reserve and that
those morons have almost unlimited power to effect everyone's lives if
Joe Average realizes it or not like with the ongoing sub prime mess.

The good news is smarter investors use market corrections to BUY. Over
the long run (meaning the last 100 years) the Stock Market has
outperformed everything. I won't brag, well maybe just a little. I've
done rather well. One investment, a large position in a regional bank
I've held for a couple decades. I have a return in excess of 1900% not
counting dividends.

The stock market moves on greed and fear. Right now it's running on
fear. It's irrational, but human nature. Everybody's heard of the old
saying buy low and sell high, yet many investors in panic do sell when
their stock is tanking and conversely buy when the stock they are
interested in is near or at it's high, so they do the exact opposite
of what your should do.

>The old adage- if you don't have to sell, then don't worry. Let everyone
>else get their panties all twisted.

Good advice.

>Similar to how some folks are feeling
>in certain areas of the US where housing values have fallen. If you aren't
>looking to sell your house, then stop worrying. Many "experts" predicted
>that after such a historical rise in values across the country, the bubble
>would burst... well, it did in a lot of areas. But just like the stock market,
>those values will start to rise again.... sooner or later.

Right. In Naperville when we moved there over 20 years ago, there was
this sizeable track of land about a mile from were we built owned by
some farmer. The property was in his family for well over a century
and he just didn't want to sell. About 10 acres. While he was within
the city limits he resisted selling with Naperville growing up all
around his property on three sides. A prime location near a bend in
the Dupage river right next to one of Naperville's many forest
preserves on the South. A few years ago he caved in and subdivided.
Now several contractors are building 3 story single family homes in
the multi million dollar range on this property. When we moved to
Naperville over 20 years ago property was expensive. Now it is through
the roof. We paid about $60K for the land we build on which was less
than a 1/4 acre. So this farmer really cleaned up.

>That's all today for the stock market lessons. -)
>Thanks for reading.

Yep, it's only money. <wink>

 

[dennis@home]

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
news:iqrmh3tf4lqdrh06bia4su0mjvahfgirfi@4ax.com...

> Just curious, anybody else seeing a spike in gasoline prices? In the
> Chicago area, prices have been trending down, which considering where
> oil prices are going doesn't compute. I'm not too worried, my Prius is
> averaging 52 MPG and I'm loving it. Heck, I can't remember when I
> bought gas last and I still got over half a tank full. -)

Oh God!!! Adam is really Doctor Drivel from UK.DIY. that explains a lot.

 

[Adam Albright]

On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 17:50:29 +0100, "dennis@home"
<dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote:

>
>"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
>news:iqrmh3tf4lqdrh06bia4su0mjvahfgirfi@4ax.com...
>
>> Just curious, anybody else seeing a spike in gasoline prices? In the
>> Chicago area, prices have been trending down, which considering where
>> oil prices are going doesn't compute. I'm not too worried, my Prius is
>> averaging 52 MPG and I'm loving it. Heck, I can't remember when I
>> bought gas last and I still got over half a tank full. -)
>
>Oh God!!! Adam is really Doctor Drivel from UK.DIY. that explains a lot.

As usual you have nothing to add to the thread. That of course never
stops you from making an ass of yourself.

 

[Doug Weller]

On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 16:12:32 -0700, in
microsoft.public.windows.vista.general, flambe wrote:

>Although Microsoft VPs will blame problems on your program the fact is that
>Vista, the Microsoft OS that took more than 5 years to come out, ends up
>being incompatible with otherwise mainstream programs and has a structure
>for which most OEMs have difficutly writing drivers.
>This not Microsoft's fault how?
>
The stuff I use works fine with Vista. Whenever you get a new OS, some
programs won't work. You shouldn't expect everything to.

Most OEMs have no problem writing drivers, either you've been lied to or
you are making that up.

Doug
--
Doug Weller --
A Director and Moderator of The Hall of Ma'at http://www.hallofmaat.com
Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk
Amun - co-owner/co-moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Amun/

 

[Dustin Harper]

Exactly. Most, if not all, new OS releases have somethings that will not
work with it. With XP, scanners were a big issue. I ended up having to use a
German beta driver for mine. But, XP also introduced compatibility mode...
If XP is so great and compatible, why did they include that feature?

XP is great. For me, Vista is amazing. It has done everything I've needed it
to. Suffice to say, my 8 year old joystick doesn't work. Of course, did I
really think it would? No way. Common sense in the computer world.

BTW, Doug: Awesome Archaeology site. That is bookmarked and will be getting
a lot of my attention!

--
Dustin Harper
dharper@vistarip.com
http://www.vistarip.com
"Doug Weller" <dweller@ramtops.removethis.co.uk> wrote in message
news:in4qh3d4181js6blt753c7dbsmjskkonni@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 16:12:32 -0700, in
> microsoft.public.windows.vista.general, flambe wrote:
>
>>Although Microsoft VPs will blame problems on your program the fact is
>>that
>>Vista, the Microsoft OS that took more than 5 years to come out, ends up
>>being incompatible with otherwise mainstream programs and has a structure
>>for which most OEMs have difficutly writing drivers.
>>This not Microsoft's fault how?
>>
> The stuff I use works fine with Vista. Whenever you get a new OS, some
> programs won't work. You shouldn't expect everything to.
>
> Most OEMs have no problem writing drivers, either you've been lied to or
> you are making that up.
>
> Doug
> --
> Doug Weller --
> A Director and Moderator of The Hall of Ma'at http://www.hallofmaat.com
> Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk
> Amun - co-owner/co-moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Amun/
>