System is acting very strange - What do I do?

[John]

Sorry Gary. F10 didn't work. However, you may be correct in some
circumstances. My other Compaq laptop uses the F10 key to get into BIOS/CMOS
setup...

I will read the website and see what works and what doesn't!

If I can or can't fix the problem, I will get back to the website and reply.
Thank you for the link.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> Maybe this will help you.
> http://tinyurl.com/3xu2ap
>
> Did you manage to get into BIOS yet? F10 work?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:ED095E07-DD46-4D09-88B0-1BA8F0D0516F@microsoft.com...
> > Model Number? Sure!
> >
> > Compaq Armada 1592DT
> >
> > Hope it helps!
> >
> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
> >
> >> The usual key for Compaq BIOSes is F10. It would be good to know what
> >> model
> >> number the machine is. Here's one set of instructions for replacing the
> >> BIOS
> >> battery that I came across:
> >> http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/armada/index.htm Kinda folksy, but has
> >> some interesting hints.
> >>
> >> Really, I've been into laptops a lot, and so long as you disconnect the
> >> main
> >> battery and give it some time for the capacitors to discharge, there's
> >> not
> >> really much risk, if any, other than you mucking something up -- those
> >> things are NOT fun to work on.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> www.grystmill.com
> >>
> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:20EEA03E-7263-4DBB-BCEA-931E20C5D532@microsoft.com...
> >> > Yes, I need to get to the BIOS setup, but I do not know the key
> >> > combination!
> >> >
> >> > We got this laptop from someone else, and yet, no CD, no instructions,
> >> > no
> >> > recovery disk etc.
> >> >
> >> > I do not want to look at all the components in the laptop to see if my
> >> > battery is dead, due to the fact that capacitors can hold large amounts
> >> > of
> >> > electricity. I tried one key combination, but it didn't go into
> >> > BIOS/CMOS
> >> > Setup.
> >> >
> >> > I would say it was probably manafactured in between 1996 - 2000.
> >> >
> >> > "Gordon Freeman" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >|
> >> >> >| No, I couldn't check for CMOS/BIOS batteries. But the battery in
> >> >> >the
> >> >> >| laptop does not charge at all.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > That's not good. When those go bad [unless its a *new defect*
> >> >> > rather
> >> >> > than
> >> >> > too many deep discharges] you have a real good indication that the
> >> >> > interior batteries [CMOS/other] need checked.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes, if the BIOS battery is dead the BIOS will probably reset to its
> >> >> defaults, which may assume a different configuration, e.g different
> >> >> hard
> >> >> drive - I had that once years ago: an 80MB disk was suddenly assumed
> >> >> to
> >> >> be a 60MB one by the BIOS, result being the laptop stopped working.
> >> >>
> >> >> I would go into BIOS setup at power on and verify all the settings are
> >> >> right. You may need the manual for the machine to verify what the
> >> >> settings should be. Note though that if the battery is dead then it
> >> >> will
> >> >> forget the settings again on power off, however if changing the BIOS
> >> >> settings fixes the problem you will at least have isolated the problem
> >> >> and can try and get the BIOS battery replaced.
> >> >>
> >> >> Of course it might be that the drive really is failing, having checked
> >> >> the
> >> >> BIOS settings and ensured the disk is being detected correctly you'd
> >> >> want
> >> >> to run a surface scan, (or preferably manufacturer's diagnostics
> >> >> program
> >> >> if
> >> >> available, these will usaully look at the SMART data etc and see
> >> >> information that is invisible to scandisk about failing sectors etc).
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

 

[Brian A.]

From the manual:
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/s...284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf
To access Computer Setup (or Diagnostics) on the Compaq Utilities menu, follow these
steps:
1. Restart the computer by clicking Shut Down on the Windows Start menu. (Or turn on
power.)
2. Press F10 as soon as the cursor appears in the upper-right corner of the screen.

IMPORTANT: The cursor is displayed on the screen for about two seconds. If you do not
press F10 during this time, you must restart the computer and try again.


--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375


"John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6CB83C17-7A90-4C03-859A-5E71BDC0EFE5@microsoft.com...
> Sorry Gary. F10 didn't work. However, you may be correct in some
> circumstances. My other Compaq laptop uses the F10 key to get into BIOS/CMOS
> setup...
>
> I will read the website and see what works and what doesn't!
>
> If I can or can't fix the problem, I will get back to the website and reply.
> Thank you for the link.
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>
>> Maybe this will help you.
>> http://tinyurl.com/3xu2ap
>>
>> Did you manage to get into BIOS yet? F10 work?
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:ED095E07-DD46-4D09-88B0-1BA8F0D0516F@microsoft.com...
>> > Model Number? Sure!
>> >
>> > Compaq Armada 1592DT
>> >
>> > Hope it helps!
>> >
>> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>> >
>> >> The usual key for Compaq BIOSes is F10. It would be good to know what
>> >> model
>> >> number the machine is. Here's one set of instructions for replacing the
>> >> BIOS
>> >> battery that I came across:
>> >> http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/armada/index.htm Kinda folksy, but has
>> >> some interesting hints.
>> >>
>> >> Really, I've been into laptops a lot, and so long as you disconnect the
>> >> main
>> >> battery and give it some time for the capacitors to discharge, there's
>> >> not
>> >> really much risk, if any, other than you mucking something up -- those
>> >> things are NOT fun to work on.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> www.grystmill.com
>> >>
>> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:20EEA03E-7263-4DBB-BCEA-931E20C5D532@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Yes, I need to get to the BIOS setup, but I do not know the key
>> >> > combination!
>> >> >
>> >> > We got this laptop from someone else, and yet, no CD, no instructions,
>> >> > no
>> >> > recovery disk etc.
>> >> >
>> >> > I do not want to look at all the components in the laptop to see if my
>> >> > battery is dead, due to the fact that capacitors can hold large amounts
>> >> > of
>> >> > electricity. I tried one key combination, but it didn't go into
>> >> > BIOS/CMOS
>> >> > Setup.
>> >> >
>> >> > I would say it was probably manafactured in between 1996 - 2000.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Gordon Freeman" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >|
>> >> >> >| No, I couldn't check for CMOS/BIOS batteries. But the battery in
>> >> >> >the
>> >> >> >| laptop does not charge at all.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > That's not good. When those go bad [unless its a *new defect*
>> >> >> > rather
>> >> >> > than
>> >> >> > too many deep discharges] you have a real good indication that the
>> >> >> > interior batteries [CMOS/other] need checked.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Yes, if the BIOS battery is dead the BIOS will probably reset to its
>> >> >> defaults, which may assume a different configuration, e.g different
>> >> >> hard
>> >> >> drive - I had that once years ago: an 80MB disk was suddenly assumed
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> be a 60MB one by the BIOS, result being the laptop stopped working.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I would go into BIOS setup at power on and verify all the settings are
>> >> >> right. You may need the manual for the machine to verify what the
>> >> >> settings should be. Note though that if the battery is dead then it
>> >> >> will
>> >> >> forget the settings again on power off, however if changing the BIOS
>> >> >> settings fixes the problem you will at least have isolated the problem
>> >> >> and can try and get the BIOS battery replaced.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Of course it might be that the drive really is failing, having checked
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> BIOS settings and ensured the disk is being detected correctly you'd
>> >> >> want
>> >> >> to run a surface scan, (or preferably manufacturer's diagnostics
>> >> >> program
>> >> >> if
>> >> >> available, these will usaully look at the SMART data etc and see
>> >> >> information that is invisible to scandisk about failing sectors etc).
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

 

[John]

Brian A and Gary, I could not start the Compaq Utilities. The computer will
constantly beep and I then have to shut it down.

What cursor? Mouse or MS-DOS cursor (blinking cursor)?
---------
"Brian A." wrote:

> From the manual:
> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/s...284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf
> To access Computer Setup (or Diagnostics) on the Compaq Utilities menu, follow these
> steps:
> 1. Restart the computer by clicking Shut Down on the Windows Start menu. (Or turn on
> power.)
> 2. Press F10 as soon as the cursor appears in the upper-right corner of the screen.
>
> IMPORTANT: The cursor is displayed on the screen for about two seconds. If you do not
> press F10 during this time, you must restart the computer and try again.
>
>
> --
>
> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>
> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>
>
> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6CB83C17-7A90-4C03-859A-5E71BDC0EFE5@microsoft.com...
> > Sorry Gary. F10 didn't work. However, you may be correct in some
> > circumstances. My other Compaq laptop uses the F10 key to get into BIOS/CMOS
> > setup...
> >
> > I will read the website and see what works and what doesn't!
> >
> > If I can or can't fix the problem, I will get back to the website and reply.
> > Thank you for the link.
> >
> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
> >
> >> Maybe this will help you.
> >> http://tinyurl.com/3xu2ap
> >>
> >> Did you manage to get into BIOS yet? F10 work?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> www.grystmill.com
> >>
> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:ED095E07-DD46-4D09-88B0-1BA8F0D0516F@microsoft.com...
> >> > Model Number? Sure!
> >> >
> >> > Compaq Armada 1592DT
> >> >
> >> > Hope it helps!
> >> >
> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> The usual key for Compaq BIOSes is F10. It would be good to know what
> >> >> model
> >> >> number the machine is. Here's one set of instructions for replacing the
> >> >> BIOS
> >> >> battery that I came across:
> >> >> http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/armada/index.htm Kinda folksy, but has
> >> >> some interesting hints.
> >> >>
> >> >> Really, I've been into laptops a lot, and so long as you disconnect the
> >> >> main
> >> >> battery and give it some time for the capacitors to discharge, there's
> >> >> not
> >> >> really much risk, if any, other than you mucking something up -- those
> >> >> things are NOT fun to work on.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> >> www.grystmill.com
> >> >>
> >> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:20EEA03E-7263-4DBB-BCEA-931E20C5D532@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Yes, I need to get to the BIOS setup, but I do not know the key
> >> >> > combination!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > We got this laptop from someone else, and yet, no CD, no instructions,
> >> >> > no
> >> >> > recovery disk etc.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I do not want to look at all the components in the laptop to see if my
> >> >> > battery is dead, due to the fact that capacitors can hold large amounts
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > electricity. I tried one key combination, but it didn't go into
> >> >> > BIOS/CMOS
> >> >> > Setup.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I would say it was probably manafactured in between 1996 - 2000.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Gordon Freeman" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >|
> >> >> >> >| No, I couldn't check for CMOS/BIOS batteries. But the battery in
> >> >> >> >the
> >> >> >> >| laptop does not charge at all.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > That's not good. When those go bad [unless its a *new defect*
> >> >> >> > rather
> >> >> >> > than
> >> >> >> > too many deep discharges] you have a real good indication that the
> >> >> >> > interior batteries [CMOS/other] need checked.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Yes, if the BIOS battery is dead the BIOS will probably reset to its
> >> >> >> defaults, which may assume a different configuration, e.g different
> >> >> >> hard
> >> >> >> drive - I had that once years ago: an 80MB disk was suddenly assumed
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> be a 60MB one by the BIOS, result being the laptop stopped working.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I would go into BIOS setup at power on and verify all the settings are
> >> >> >> right. You may need the manual for the machine to verify what the
> >> >> >> settings should be. Note though that if the battery is dead then it
> >> >> >> will
> >> >> >> forget the settings again on power off, however if changing the BIOS
> >> >> >> settings fixes the problem you will at least have isolated the problem
> >> >> >> and can try and get the BIOS battery replaced.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Of course it might be that the drive really is failing, having checked
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> BIOS settings and ensured the disk is being detected correctly you'd
> >> >> >> want
> >> >> >> to run a surface scan, (or preferably manufacturer's diagnostics
> >> >> >> program
> >> >> >> if
> >> >> >> available, these will usaully look at the SMART data etc and see
> >> >> >> information that is invisible to scandisk about failing sectors etc).
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

When you say, "constantly beep", is that when you're pressing the FD10 key
repeatedly, or holding it down? Does it quit when you stop pressing any key?
If so, that's just the "stuck-key" error.

The cursor we're talking about is similar to a DOS cursor, just a plain
horizontal line fragment that blinks. IIRC, it might even be at the upper
right instead of upper left. Do you see any blinking cursor at all? If so,
as noted, it only appears for a short time, and you only want to try F10
when it appears, not before or after (so as to avoid the "stuck key" error.)

Only other way I know to force BIOS is to replace the CMOS battery, and with
Compaq, I'm not even sure that would work. Compaqs, especially of that era,
were downright weird machines. Did a lot of things very differently from the
rest of the crowd.

Hmmm... Not sure about that machine, but seems to me that at least some
laptops, if not most, have/had a Fn or F-lock key that you have to press
before the F keys will work... I think... Not really too familiar with the
things, not like I am with desktops.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C1702973-B90A-4791-88B6-2DC257E2676F@microsoft.com...
> Brian A and Gary, I could not start the Compaq Utilities. The computer
> will
> constantly beep and I then have to shut it down.
>
> What cursor? Mouse or MS-DOS cursor (blinking cursor)?
> ---------
> "Brian A." wrote:
>
>> From the manual:
>> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/s...284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf
>> To access Computer Setup (or Diagnostics) on the Compaq Utilities menu,
>> follow these
>> steps:
>> 1. Restart the computer by clicking Shut Down on the Windows Start menu.
>> (Or turn on
>> power.)
>> 2. Press F10 as soon as the cursor appears in the upper-right corner of
>> the screen.
>>
>> IMPORTANT: The cursor is displayed on the screen for about two seconds.
>> If you do not
>> press F10 during this time, you must restart the computer and try again.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
>> Conflicts start where information lacks.
>> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>>
>> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>>
>>
>> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:6CB83C17-7A90-4C03-859A-5E71BDC0EFE5@microsoft.com...
>> > Sorry Gary. F10 didn't work. However, you may be correct in some
>> > circumstances. My other Compaq laptop uses the F10 key to get into
>> > BIOS/CMOS
>> > setup...
>> >
>> > I will read the website and see what works and what doesn't!
>> >
>> > If I can or can't fix the problem, I will get back to the website and
>> > reply.
>> > Thank you for the link.
>> >
>> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Maybe this will help you.
>> >> http://tinyurl.com/3xu2ap
>> >>
>> >> Did you manage to get into BIOS yet? F10 work?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> www.grystmill.com
>> >>
>> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:ED095E07-DD46-4D09-88B0-1BA8F0D0516F@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Model Number? Sure!
>> >> >
>> >> > Compaq Armada 1592DT
>> >> >
>> >> > Hope it helps!
>> >> >
>> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> The usual key for Compaq BIOSes is F10. It would be good to know
>> >> >> what
>> >> >> model
>> >> >> number the machine is. Here's one set of instructions for replacing
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> BIOS
>> >> >> battery that I came across:
>> >> >> http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/armada/index.htm Kinda folksy,
>> >> >> but has
>> >> >> some interesting hints.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Really, I've been into laptops a lot, and so long as you disconnect
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> main
>> >> >> battery and give it some time for the capacitors to discharge,
>> >> >> there's
>> >> >> not
>> >> >> really much risk, if any, other than you mucking something up --
>> >> >> those
>> >> >> things are NOT fun to work on.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> >> www.grystmill.com
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:20EEA03E-7263-4DBB-BCEA-931E20C5D532@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > Yes, I need to get to the BIOS setup, but I do not know the key
>> >> >> > combination!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > We got this laptop from someone else, and yet, no CD, no
>> >> >> > instructions,
>> >> >> > no
>> >> >> > recovery disk etc.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I do not want to look at all the components in the laptop to see
>> >> >> > if my
>> >> >> > battery is dead, due to the fact that capacitors can hold large
>> >> >> > amounts
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > electricity. I tried one key combination, but it didn't go into
>> >> >> > BIOS/CMOS
>> >> >> > Setup.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I would say it was probably manafactured in between 1996 - 2000.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Gordon Freeman" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >|
>> >> >> >> >| No, I couldn't check for CMOS/BIOS batteries. But the battery
>> >> >> >> >in
>> >> >> >> >the
>> >> >> >> >| laptop does not charge at all.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > That's not good. When those go bad [unless its a *new defect*
>> >> >> >> > rather
>> >> >> >> > than
>> >> >> >> > too many deep discharges] you have a real good indication
>> >> >> >> > that the
>> >> >> >> > interior batteries [CMOS/other] need checked.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Yes, if the BIOS battery is dead the BIOS will probably reset to
>> >> >> >> its
>> >> >> >> defaults, which may assume a different configuration, e.g
>> >> >> >> different
>> >> >> >> hard
>> >> >> >> drive - I had that once years ago: an 80MB disk was suddenly
>> >> >> >> assumed
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> be a 60MB one by the BIOS, result being the laptop stopped
>> >> >> >> working.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I would go into BIOS setup at power on and verify all the
>> >> >> >> settings are
>> >> >> >> right. You may need the manual for the machine to verify what
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> settings should be. Note though that if the battery is dead then
>> >> >> >> it
>> >> >> >> will
>> >> >> >> forget the settings again on power off, however if changing the
>> >> >> >> BIOS
>> >> >> >> settings fixes the problem you will at least have isolated the
>> >> >> >> problem
>> >> >> >> and can try and get the BIOS battery replaced.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Of course it might be that the drive really is failing, having
>> >> >> >> checked
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> BIOS settings and ensured the disk is being detected correctly
>> >> >> >> you'd
>> >> >> >> want
>> >> >> >> to run a surface scan, (or preferably manufacturer's diagnostics
>> >> >> >> program
>> >> >> >> if
>> >> >> >> available, these will usaully look at the SMART data etc and see
>> >> >> >> information that is invisible to scandisk about failing sectors
>> >> >> >> etc).
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

 

[MEB]

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...eriesId=96219&swLang=8&taskId=135&swEnvOID=20 -
Download drivers and software

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...odTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=96219&taskId=135 -
Armada general - locate files


Check Chapters 9 and 10 of the manual which Brian directed you to.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
________


"John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C1702973-B90A-4791-88B6-2DC257E2676F@microsoft.com...
| Brian A and Gary, I could not start the Compaq Utilities. The computer
will
| constantly beep and I then have to shut it down.
|
| What cursor? Mouse or MS-DOS cursor (blinking cursor)?
| ---------
| "Brian A." wrote:
|
| > From the manual:
| >
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/s...284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf
| > To access Computer Setup (or Diagnostics) on the Compaq Utilities menu,
follow these
| > steps:
| > 1. Restart the computer by clicking Shut Down on the Windows Start menu.
(Or turn on
| > power.)
| > 2. Press F10 as soon as the cursor appears in the upper-right corner of
the screen.
| >
| > IMPORTANT: The cursor is displayed on the screen for about two seconds.
If you do not
| > press F10 during this time, you must restart the computer and try again.
| >
| >
| > --
| >
| > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
| > Conflicts start where information lacks.
| > http://basconotw.mvps.org/
| >
| > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
| > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
| >
| >
| > "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > news:6CB83C17-7A90-4C03-859A-5E71BDC0EFE5@microsoft.com...
| > > Sorry Gary. F10 didn't work. However, you may be correct in some
| > > circumstances. My other Compaq laptop uses the F10 key to get into
BIOS/CMOS
| > > setup...
| > >
| > > I will read the website and see what works and what doesn't!
| > >
| > > If I can or can't fix the problem, I will get back to the website and
reply.
| > > Thank you for the link.
| > >
| > > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
| > >
| > >> Maybe this will help you.
| > >> http://tinyurl.com/3xu2ap
| > >>
| > >> Did you manage to get into BIOS yet? F10 work?
| > >>
| > >> --
| > >> Gary S. Terhune
| > >> MS-MVP Shell/User
| > >> www.grystmill.com
| > >>
| > >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > >> news:ED095E07-DD46-4D09-88B0-1BA8F0D0516F@microsoft.com...
| > >> > Model Number? Sure!
| > >> >
| > >> > Compaq Armada 1592DT
| > >> >
| > >> > Hope it helps!
| > >> >
| > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
| > >> >
| > >> >> The usual key for Compaq BIOSes is F10. It would be good to know
what
| > >> >> model
| > >> >> number the machine is. Here's one set of instructions for
replacing the
| > >> >> BIOS
| > >> >> battery that I came across:
| > >> >> http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/armada/index.htm Kinda folksy,
but has
| > >> >> some interesting hints.
| > >> >>
| > >> >> Really, I've been into laptops a lot, and so long as you
disconnect the
| > >> >> main
| > >> >> battery and give it some time for the capacitors to discharge,
there's
| > >> >> not
| > >> >> really much risk, if any, other than you mucking something up --
those
| > >> >> things are NOT fun to work on.
| > >> >>
| > >> >> --
| > >> >> Gary S. Terhune
| > >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
| > >> >> www.grystmill.com
| > >> >>
| > >> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > >> >> news:20EEA03E-7263-4DBB-BCEA-931E20C5D532@microsoft.com...
| > >> >> > Yes, I need to get to the BIOS setup, but I do not know the key
| > >> >> > combination!
| > >> >> >
| > >> >> > We got this laptop from someone else, and yet, no CD, no
instructions,
| > >> >> > no
| > >> >> > recovery disk etc.
| > >> >> >
| > >> >> > I do not want to look at all the components in the laptop to see
if my
| > >> >> > battery is dead, due to the fact that capacitors can hold large
amounts
| > >> >> > of
| > >> >> > electricity. I tried one key combination, but it didn't go into
| > >> >> > BIOS/CMOS
| > >> >> > Setup.
| > >> >> >
| > >> >> > I would say it was probably manafactured in between 1996 - 2000.
| > >> >> >
| > >> >> > "Gordon Freeman" wrote:
| > >> >> >
| > >> >> >> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote:
| > >> >> >>
| > >> >> >> >|
| > >> >> >> >| No, I couldn't check for CMOS/BIOS batteries. But the
battery in
| > >> >> >> >the
| > >> >> >> >| laptop does not charge at all.
| > >> >> >> >
| > >> >> >> > That's not good. When those go bad [unless its a *new
defect*
| > >> >> >> > rather
| > >> >> >> > than
| > >> >> >> > too many deep discharges] you have a real good indication
that the
| > >> >> >> > interior batteries [CMOS/other] need checked.
| > >> >> >>
| > >> >> >>
| > >> >> >> Yes, if the BIOS battery is dead the BIOS will probably reset
to its
| > >> >> >> defaults, which may assume a different configuration, e.g
different
| > >> >> >> hard
| > >> >> >> drive - I had that once years ago: an 80MB disk was suddenly
assumed
| > >> >> >> to
| > >> >> >> be a 60MB one by the BIOS, result being the laptop stopped
working.
| > >> >> >>
| > >> >> >> I would go into BIOS setup at power on and verify all the
settings are
| > >> >> >> right. You may need the manual for the machine to verify what
the
| > >> >> >> settings should be. Note though that if the battery is dead
then it
| > >> >> >> will
| > >> >> >> forget the settings again on power off, however if changing the
BIOS
| > >> >> >> settings fixes the problem you will at least have isolated the
problem
| > >> >> >> and can try and get the BIOS battery replaced.
| > >> >> >>
| > >> >> >> Of course it might be that the drive really is failing, having
checked
| > >> >> >> the
| > >> >> >> BIOS settings and ensured the disk is being detected correctly
you'd
| > >> >> >> want
| > >> >> >> to run a surface scan, (or preferably manufacturer's
diagnostics
| > >> >> >> program
| > >> >> >> if
| > >> >> >> available, these will usaully look at the SMART data etc and
see
| > >> >> >> information that is invisible to scandisk about failing sectors
etc).
| > >> >> >>
| > >> >>
| > >> >>
| > >> >>
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| >
| >

 

[BinaryConverted]

This is actually 'John' but I changed my profile name to 'BinaryConverted'.

Either way, repeatedly pressing or holding the F10 key down will cause the
machine to constantly beep. And it is not going into BIOS/CMOS setup.

Yes, cursors when the system boot's, but many different types.

The first blinks when I get this damned message which takes up most of the
boot time:

"****** KB OK"

It blinks for more than two seconds.

Next one is after the 'Windows 98 Second Edition' logo appears.

Again, more than two seconds.
After that, I see the wallpaper and suddenly Windows 98 appears.

Have to go with you on this one )

"Compaqs, especially of that era, were downright weird machines."
The one I am using now is a completely DUMBFOWL - it is a Compaq aswell.

Ok. Yes, I will try one the 'Fn' key on the keyboard before the F10.

And one question: Do I need to post a new topic just to make this easier to
access?
--
Forums - Aren''t they wonderful?


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> When you say, "constantly beep", is that when you're pressing the FD10 key
> repeatedly, or holding it down? Does it quit when you stop pressing any key?
> If so, that's just the "stuck-key" error.
>
> The cursor we're talking about is similar to a DOS cursor, just a plain
> horizontal line fragment that blinks. IIRC, it might even be at the upper
> right instead of upper left. Do you see any blinking cursor at all? If so,
> as noted, it only appears for a short time, and you only want to try F10
> when it appears, not before or after (so as to avoid the "stuck key" error.)
>
> Only other way I know to force BIOS is to replace the CMOS battery, and with
> Compaq, I'm not even sure that would work. Compaqs, especially of that era,
> were downright weird machines. Did a lot of things very differently from the
> rest of the crowd.
>
> Hmmm... Not sure about that machine, but seems to me that at least some
> laptops, if not most, have/had a Fn or F-lock key that you have to press
> before the F keys will work... I think... Not really too familiar with the
> things, not like I am with desktops.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C1702973-B90A-4791-88B6-2DC257E2676F@microsoft.com...
> > Brian A and Gary, I could not start the Compaq Utilities. The computer
> > will
> > constantly beep and I then have to shut it down.
> >
> > What cursor? Mouse or MS-DOS cursor (blinking cursor)?
> > ---------
> > "Brian A." wrote:
> >
> >> From the manual:
> >> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/s...284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf
> >> To access Computer Setup (or Diagnostics) on the Compaq Utilities menu,
> >> follow these
> >> steps:
> >> 1. Restart the computer by clicking Shut Down on the Windows Start menu.
> >> (Or turn on
> >> power.)
> >> 2. Press F10 as soon as the cursor appears in the upper-right corner of
> >> the screen.
> >>
> >> IMPORTANT: The cursor is displayed on the screen for about two seconds.
> >> If you do not
> >> press F10 during this time, you must restart the computer and try again.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> >> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
> >>
> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
> >>
> >>
> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:6CB83C17-7A90-4C03-859A-5E71BDC0EFE5@microsoft.com...
> >> > Sorry Gary. F10 didn't work. However, you may be correct in some
> >> > circumstances. My other Compaq laptop uses the F10 key to get into
> >> > BIOS/CMOS
> >> > setup...
> >> >
> >> > I will read the website and see what works and what doesn't!
> >> >
> >> > If I can or can't fix the problem, I will get back to the website and
> >> > reply.
> >> > Thank you for the link.
> >> >
> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Maybe this will help you.
> >> >> http://tinyurl.com/3xu2ap
> >> >>
> >> >> Did you manage to get into BIOS yet? F10 work?
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> >> www.grystmill.com
> >> >>
> >> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:ED095E07-DD46-4D09-88B0-1BA8F0D0516F@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Model Number? Sure!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Compaq Armada 1592DT
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hope it helps!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> The usual key for Compaq BIOSes is F10. It would be good to know
> >> >> >> what
> >> >> >> model
> >> >> >> number the machine is. Here's one set of instructions for replacing
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> BIOS
> >> >> >> battery that I came across:
> >> >> >> http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/armada/index.htm Kinda folksy,
> >> >> >> but has
> >> >> >> some interesting hints.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Really, I've been into laptops a lot, and so long as you disconnect
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> main
> >> >> >> battery and give it some time for the capacitors to discharge,
> >> >> >> there's
> >> >> >> not
> >> >> >> really much risk, if any, other than you mucking something up --
> >> >> >> those
> >> >> >> things are NOT fun to work on.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> >> >> www.grystmill.com
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:20EEA03E-7263-4DBB-BCEA-931E20C5D532@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> > Yes, I need to get to the BIOS setup, but I do not know the key
> >> >> >> > combination!
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > We got this laptop from someone else, and yet, no CD, no
> >> >> >> > instructions,
> >> >> >> > no
> >> >> >> > recovery disk etc.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I do not want to look at all the components in the laptop to see
> >> >> >> > if my
> >> >> >> > battery is dead, due to the fact that capacitors can hold large
> >> >> >> > amounts
> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> > electricity. I tried one key combination, but it didn't go into
> >> >> >> > BIOS/CMOS
> >> >> >> > Setup.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I would say it was probably manafactured in between 1996 - 2000.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "Gordon Freeman" wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >|
> >> >> >> >> >| No, I couldn't check for CMOS/BIOS batteries. But the battery
> >> >> >> >> >in
> >> >> >> >> >the
> >> >> >> >> >| laptop does not charge at all.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > That's not good. When those go bad [unless its a *new defect*
> >> >> >> >> > rather
> >> >> >> >> > than
> >> >> >> >> > too many deep discharges] you have a real good indication
> >> >> >> >> > that the
> >> >> >> >> > interior batteries [CMOS/other] need checked.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Yes, if the BIOS battery is dead the BIOS will probably reset to
> >> >> >> >> its
> >> >> >> >> defaults, which may assume a different configuration, e.g
> >> >> >> >> different
> >> >> >> >> hard
> >> >> >> >> drive - I had that once years ago: an 80MB disk was suddenly
> >> >> >> >> assumed
> >> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >> be a 60MB one by the BIOS, result being the laptop stopped
> >> >> >> >> working.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I would go into BIOS setup at power on and verify all the
> >> >> >> >> settings are
> >> >> >> >> right. You may need the manual for the machine to verify what
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> settings should be. Note though that if the battery is dead then
> >> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> >> will
> >> >> >> >> forget the settings again on power off, however if changing the
> >> >> >> >> BIOS
> >> >> >> >> settings fixes the problem you will at least have isolated the
> >> >> >> >> problem
> >> >> >> >> and can try and get the BIOS battery replaced.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Of course it might be that the drive really is failing, having
> >> >> >> >> checked
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> BIOS settings and ensured the disk is being detected correctly
> >> >> >> >> you'd
> >> >> >> >> want
> >> >> >> >> to run a surface scan, (or preferably manufacturer's diagnostics
> >> >> >> >> program
> >> >> >> >> if
> >> >> >> >> available, these will usaully look at the SMART data etc and see
> >> >> >> >> information that is invisible to scandisk about failing sectors
> >> >> >> >> etc).
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

 

[Brian A.]

"BinaryConverted" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.(myyahoodisposableaddress)> wrote
in message news:1BB273C9-8624-4570-851B-AB523805649E@microsoft.com...
> This is actually 'John' but I changed my profile name to 'BinaryConverted'.
>
> Either way, repeatedly pressing or holding the F10 key down will cause the
> machine to constantly beep. And it is not going into BIOS/CMOS setup.
>
> Yes, cursors when the system boot's, but many different types.
>
> The first blinks when I get this damned message which takes up most of the
> boot time:
>
> "****** KB OK"
>
> It blinks for more than two seconds.

Do you see the POST or the Compaq logo at boot? The POST screen shows the memory
count, drive detection, kb/mouse detection and a few other things.
If you see the POST, as soon as it appears press the PAUSE key immediately.
Look for anything that mentions "To Enter Setup - Press (key)".
Press any key to resume boot and immediately press the key noted to enter setup.
If it gets by then you'll have to reboot and try again.

>
> Next one is after the 'Windows 98 Second Edition' logo appears.

Once you get to the Windows logo it's to late and passed being able to enter the
BIOS.

>
> Again, more than two seconds.
> After that, I see the wallpaper and suddenly Windows 98 appears.
>
> Have to go with you on this one )
>
> "Compaqs, especially of that era, were downright weird machines."
> The one I am using now is a completely DUMBFOWL - it is a Compaq aswell.
>
> Ok. Yes, I will try one the 'Fn' key on the keyboard before the F10.
>
> And one question: Do I need to post a new topic just to make this easier to
> access?

No.

> --
> Forums - Aren''t they wonderful?

Yes, they're a great resource for help and information.


--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375



>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>
>> When you say, "constantly beep", is that when you're pressing the FD10 key
>> repeatedly, or holding it down? Does it quit when you stop pressing any key?
>> If so, that's just the "stuck-key" error.
>>
>> The cursor we're talking about is similar to a DOS cursor, just a plain
>> horizontal line fragment that blinks. IIRC, it might even be at the upper
>> right instead of upper left. Do you see any blinking cursor at all? If so,
>> as noted, it only appears for a short time, and you only want to try F10
>> when it appears, not before or after (so as to avoid the "stuck key" error.)
>>
>> Only other way I know to force BIOS is to replace the CMOS battery, and with
>> Compaq, I'm not even sure that would work. Compaqs, especially of that era,
>> were downright weird machines. Did a lot of things very differently from the
>> rest of the crowd.
>>
>> Hmmm... Not sure about that machine, but seems to me that at least some
>> laptops, if not most, have/had a Fn or F-lock key that you have to press
>> before the F keys will work... I think... Not really too familiar with the
>> things, not like I am with desktops.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
<snipped>

 

[BinaryConverted]

I don't see a Compaq logo at boot.

I am just not sure about these blinking cursors. After more than two seconds
it shows another cursor again (as if I press the 'ENTER' key after it says
'****** OK')

--
Forums - Aren't they wonderful?
"Brian A." wrote:

> "BinaryConverted" <chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.(myyahoodisposableaddress)> wrote
> in message news:1BB273C9-8624-4570-851B-AB523805649E@microsoft.com...
> > This is actually 'John' but I changed my profile name to 'BinaryConverted'.
> >
> > Either way, repeatedly pressing or holding the F10 key down will cause the
> > machine to constantly beep. And it is not going into BIOS/CMOS setup.
> >
> > Yes, cursors when the system boot's, but many different types.
> >
> > The first blinks when I get this damned message which takes up most of the
> > boot time:
> >
> > "****** KB OK"
> >
> > It blinks for more than two seconds.
>
> Do you see the POST or the Compaq logo at boot? The POST screen shows the memory
> count, drive detection, kb/mouse detection and a few other things.
> If you see the POST, as soon as it appears press the PAUSE key immediately.
> Look for anything that mentions "To Enter Setup - Press (key)".
> Press any key to resume boot and immediately press the key noted to enter setup.
> If it gets by then you'll have to reboot and try again.
>
> >
> > Next one is after the 'Windows 98 Second Edition' logo appears.
>
> Once you get to the Windows logo it's to late and passed being able to enter the
> BIOS.
>
> >
> > Again, more than two seconds.
> > After that, I see the wallpaper and suddenly Windows 98 appears.
> >
> > Have to go with you on this one )
> >
> > "Compaqs, especially of that era, were downright weird machines."
> > The one I am using now is a completely DUMBFOWL - it is a Compaq aswell.
> >
> > Ok. Yes, I will try one the 'Fn' key on the keyboard before the F10.
> >
> > And one question: Do I need to post a new topic just to make this easier to
> > access?
>
> No.
>
> > --
> > Forums - Aren''t they wonderful?
>
> Yes, they're a great resource for help and information.
>
>
> --
>
> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>
> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
> >
> >> When you say, "constantly beep", is that when you're pressing the FD10 key
> >> repeatedly, or holding it down? Does it quit when you stop pressing any key?
> >> If so, that's just the "stuck-key" error.
> >>
> >> The cursor we're talking about is similar to a DOS cursor, just a plain
> >> horizontal line fragment that blinks. IIRC, it might even be at the upper
> >> right instead of upper left. Do you see any blinking cursor at all? If so,
> >> as noted, it only appears for a short time, and you only want to try F10
> >> when it appears, not before or after (so as to avoid the "stuck key" error.)
> >>
> >> Only other way I know to force BIOS is to replace the CMOS battery, and with
> >> Compaq, I'm not even sure that would work. Compaqs, especially of that era,
> >> were downright weird machines. Did a lot of things very differently from the
> >> rest of the crowd.
> >>
> >> Hmmm... Not sure about that machine, but seems to me that at least some
> >> laptops, if not most, have/had a Fn or F-lock key that you have to press
> >> before the F keys will work... I think... Not really too familiar with the
> >> things, not like I am with desktops.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> www.grystmill.com
> >>
> <snipped>
>
>

 

[PCR]

Re: Anger Management!

"John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:36E05E5B-851A-4AC6-962A-6AE89BA6480A@microsoft.com
| "MEB spewed:
|
|> So take your simplistic ideas to a forum where they may laud you
|> as semi-intelligent,,,
|
| You really are an ass hole." - 98 Guy
|
| "Well, let's review your history here...
|
| When you brought your ideas to this group regarding IE hacks, I was
| the ONLY one who attempted to work with you on that... you didn't
| apparently pick-up on TESTING techniques required ....
|
| When you brought your ideas concerning hard drives to this group, we
| all tried to direct you to the materials you needed to understand and
| consider for your presentation... glad you picked up on SOME of
| that.. to bad you didn't grasp the full picture...
|
| When you started your "you don't need firewalls anymore" we but in
| particular I, tried to direct you to the FACTS of networking and
| Internet use, regretfully that was apparently beyond your abilities
| to understand...
|
| Shall I go through other of your posts here?????
|
| And here you are trying to direct someone to spend money for
| something BEFORE you have verified that is the problem....
|
| So perhaps I may appear to be an *AH* NOW, but really, you need to
| THINK before you type... and let those who do understand SRTSP, apply
| them." - MBE -----------------------------------------------------
|
| NOW LETS GET OVER THIS CRAP AND GET ON WITH LIFE!!! OK?

Agreed! So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup
Diskette...?...

http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from "Control
Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Copy-protect the
diskette, put it in & turn on the computer.

At the A:\ prompt, enter "DIR" (no quotes). Did you get a listing?

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[98 Guy]

Re: Anger Management!

PCR wrote:

> So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup
> Diskette...?...

His hard drive was pooched, but he doesn't want to say that I was
right, so he just let the thread die.

 

[PCR]

Re: Anger Management!

"98 Guy" <98@Guy.com> wrote in message news:46C39F2E.A3B20E67@Guy.com
| PCR wrote:
|
|> So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup
|> Diskette...?...
|
| His hard drive was pooched, but he doesn't want to say that I was
| right, so he just let the thread die.

I'm not 100% convinced it wasn't his battery or power supply that was
pooched. But I'm outa here! I don't want to get between you & MEB
anymore than between Angel & thanatoid!


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[Angel]

Re: Anger Management!

ROFL!! LOL!!
Angel

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:uITxm6C4HHA.4184@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> "98 Guy" <98@Guy.com> wrote in message news:46C39F2E.A3B20E67@Guy.com
> | PCR wrote:
> |
> |> So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup
> |> Diskette...?...
> |
> | His hard drive was pooched, but he doesn't want to say that I was
> | right, so he just let the thread die.
>
> I'm not 100% convinced it wasn't his battery or power supply that was
> pooched. But I'm outa here! I don't want to get between you & MEB
> anymore than between Angel & thanatoid!
>
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
>

 

[BinaryConverted]

Re: Anger Management!

Ooops...

Yes, a laptop.
--
A story of success always has a beginning.


"PCR" wrote:

> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:36E05E5B-851A-4AC6-962A-6AE89BA6480A@microsoft.com
> | "MEB spewed:
> |
> |> So take your simplistic ideas to a forum where they may laud you
> |> as semi-intelligent,,,
> |
> | You really are an ass hole." - 98 Guy
> |
> | "Well, let's review your history here...
> |
> | When you brought your ideas to this group regarding IE hacks, I was
> | the ONLY one who attempted to work with you on that... you didn't
> | apparently pick-up on TESTING techniques required ....
> |
> | When you brought your ideas concerning hard drives to this group, we
> | all tried to direct you to the materials you needed to understand and
> | consider for your presentation... glad you picked up on SOME of
> | that.. to bad you didn't grasp the full picture...
> |
> | When you started your "you don't need firewalls anymore" we but in
> | particular I, tried to direct you to the FACTS of networking and
> | Internet use, regretfully that was apparently beyond your abilities
> | to understand...
> |
> | Shall I go through other of your posts here?????
> |
> | And here you are trying to direct someone to spend money for
> | something BEFORE you have verified that is the problem....
> |
> | So perhaps I may appear to be an *AH* NOW, but really, you need to
> | THINK before you type... and let those who do understand SRTSP, apply
> | them." - MBE -----------------------------------------------------
> |
> | NOW LETS GET OVER THIS CRAP AND GET ON WITH LIFE!!! OK?
>
> Agreed! So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup
> Diskette...?...
>
> http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from "Control
> Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Copy-protect the
> diskette, put it in & turn on the computer.
>
> At the A:\ prompt, enter "DIR" (no quotes). Did you get a listing?
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
>
>

 

[BinaryConverted]

Re: Anger Management!

You really need a kick in the ass 98 Guy.
--
A story of success always has a beginning.


"98 Guy" wrote:

> PCR wrote:
>
> > So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup
> > Diskette...?...
>
> His hard drive was pooched, but he doesn't want to say that I was
> right, so he just let the thread die.
>

 

[BinaryConverted]

Thank's MEB.

I will try to install the drivers as soon as possible.
--
A story of success always has a beginning.


"MEB" wrote:

> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...eriesId=96219&swLang=8&taskId=135&swEnvOID=20 -
> Download drivers and software
>
> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...odTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=96219&taskId=135 -
> Armada general - locate files
>
>
> Check Chapters 9 and 10 of the manual which Brian directed you to.
>
> --
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> ________
>
>
> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C1702973-B90A-4791-88B6-2DC257E2676F@microsoft.com...
> | Brian A and Gary, I could not start the Compaq Utilities. The computer
> will
> | constantly beep and I then have to shut it down.
> |
> | What cursor? Mouse or MS-DOS cursor (blinking cursor)?
> | ---------
> | "Brian A." wrote:
> |
> | > From the manual:
> | >
> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/s...284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf
> | > To access Computer Setup (or Diagnostics) on the Compaq Utilities menu,
> follow these
> | > steps:
> | > 1. Restart the computer by clicking Shut Down on the Windows Start menu.
> (Or turn on
> | > power.)
> | > 2. Press F10 as soon as the cursor appears in the upper-right corner of
> the screen.
> | >
> | > IMPORTANT: The cursor is displayed on the screen for about two seconds.
> If you do not
> | > press F10 during this time, you must restart the computer and try again.
> | >
> | >
> | > --
> | >
> | > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> | > Conflicts start where information lacks.
> | > http://basconotw.mvps.org/
> | >
> | > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> | > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
> | >
> | >
> | > "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > news:6CB83C17-7A90-4C03-859A-5E71BDC0EFE5@microsoft.com...
> | > > Sorry Gary. F10 didn't work. However, you may be correct in some
> | > > circumstances. My other Compaq laptop uses the F10 key to get into
> BIOS/CMOS
> | > > setup...
> | > >
> | > > I will read the website and see what works and what doesn't!
> | > >
> | > > If I can or can't fix the problem, I will get back to the website and
> reply.
> | > > Thank you for the link.
> | > >
> | > > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
> | > >
> | > >> Maybe this will help you.
> | > >> http://tinyurl.com/3xu2ap
> | > >>
> | > >> Did you manage to get into BIOS yet? F10 work?
> | > >>
> | > >> --
> | > >> Gary S. Terhune
> | > >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > >> www.grystmill.com
> | > >>
> | > >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > >> news:ED095E07-DD46-4D09-88B0-1BA8F0D0516F@microsoft.com...
> | > >> > Model Number? Sure!
> | > >> >
> | > >> > Compaq Armada 1592DT
> | > >> >
> | > >> > Hope it helps!
> | > >> >
> | > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
> | > >> >
> | > >> >> The usual key for Compaq BIOSes is F10. It would be good to know
> what
> | > >> >> model
> | > >> >> number the machine is. Here's one set of instructions for
> replacing the
> | > >> >> BIOS
> | > >> >> battery that I came across:
> | > >> >> http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/armada/index.htm Kinda folksy,
> but has
> | > >> >> some interesting hints.
> | > >> >>
> | > >> >> Really, I've been into laptops a lot, and so long as you
> disconnect the
> | > >> >> main
> | > >> >> battery and give it some time for the capacitors to discharge,
> there's
> | > >> >> not
> | > >> >> really much risk, if any, other than you mucking something up --
> those
> | > >> >> things are NOT fun to work on.
> | > >> >>
> | > >> >> --
> | > >> >> Gary S. Terhune
> | > >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> | > >> >> www.grystmill.com
> | > >> >>
> | > >> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > >> >> news:20EEA03E-7263-4DBB-BCEA-931E20C5D532@microsoft.com...
> | > >> >> > Yes, I need to get to the BIOS setup, but I do not know the key
> | > >> >> > combination!
> | > >> >> >
> | > >> >> > We got this laptop from someone else, and yet, no CD, no
> instructions,
> | > >> >> > no
> | > >> >> > recovery disk etc.
> | > >> >> >
> | > >> >> > I do not want to look at all the components in the laptop to see
> if my
> | > >> >> > battery is dead, due to the fact that capacitors can hold large
> amounts
> | > >> >> > of
> | > >> >> > electricity. I tried one key combination, but it didn't go into
> | > >> >> > BIOS/CMOS
> | > >> >> > Setup.
> | > >> >> >
> | > >> >> > I would say it was probably manafactured in between 1996 - 2000.
> | > >> >> >
> | > >> >> > "Gordon Freeman" wrote:
> | > >> >> >
> | > >> >> >> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote:
> | > >> >> >>
> | > >> >> >> >|
> | > >> >> >> >| No, I couldn't check for CMOS/BIOS batteries. But the
> battery in
> | > >> >> >> >the
> | > >> >> >> >| laptop does not charge at all.
> | > >> >> >> >
> | > >> >> >> > That's not good. When those go bad [unless its a *new
> defect*
> | > >> >> >> > rather
> | > >> >> >> > than
> | > >> >> >> > too many deep discharges] you have a real good indication
> that the
> | > >> >> >> > interior batteries [CMOS/other] need checked.
> | > >> >> >>
> | > >> >> >>
> | > >> >> >> Yes, if the BIOS battery is dead the BIOS will probably reset
> to its
> | > >> >> >> defaults, which may assume a different configuration, e.g
> different
> | > >> >> >> hard
> | > >> >> >> drive - I had that once years ago: an 80MB disk was suddenly
> assumed
> | > >> >> >> to
> | > >> >> >> be a 60MB one by the BIOS, result being the laptop stopped
> working.
> | > >> >> >>
> | > >> >> >> I would go into BIOS setup at power on and verify all the
> settings are
> | > >> >> >> right. You may need the manual for the machine to verify what
> the
> | > >> >> >> settings should be. Note though that if the battery is dead
> then it
> | > >> >> >> will
> | > >> >> >> forget the settings again on power off, however if changing the
> BIOS
> | > >> >> >> settings fixes the problem you will at least have isolated the
> problem
> | > >> >> >> and can try and get the BIOS battery replaced.
> | > >> >> >>
> | > >> >> >> Of course it might be that the drive really is failing, having
> checked
> | > >> >> >> the
> | > >> >> >> BIOS settings and ensured the disk is being detected correctly
> you'd
> | > >> >> >> want
> | > >> >> >> to run a surface scan, (or preferably manufacturer's
> diagnostics
> | > >> >> >> program
> | > >> >> >> if
> | > >> >> >> available, these will usaully look at the SMART data etc and
> see
> | > >> >> >> information that is invisible to scandisk about failing sectors
> etc).
> | > >> >> >>
> | > >> >>
> | > >> >>
> | > >> >>
> | > >>
> | > >>
> | > >>
> | >
> | >
>
>
>

 

[98 Guy]

Re: Anger Management!

BinaryConverted wrote:

> You really need a kick in the ass 98 Guy.

You need a kick in the ass for being a top-poster.

 

[BinaryConverted]

Re: Anger Management!

Well, I'm not sure that startup is not a problem anymore.

That one resolved itself.

But I might need to access BIOS setup through Windows.
Is there any way at all?
--
A story of success always has a beginning.


"PCR" wrote:

> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:36E05E5B-851A-4AC6-962A-6AE89BA6480A@microsoft.com
> | "MEB spewed:
> |
> |> So take your simplistic ideas to a forum where they may laud you
> |> as semi-intelligent,,,
> |
> | You really are an ass hole." - 98 Guy
> |
> | "Well, let's review your history here...
> |
> | When you brought your ideas to this group regarding IE hacks, I was
> | the ONLY one who attempted to work with you on that... you didn't
> | apparently pick-up on TESTING techniques required ....
> |
> | When you brought your ideas concerning hard drives to this group, we
> | all tried to direct you to the materials you needed to understand and
> | consider for your presentation... glad you picked up on SOME of
> | that.. to bad you didn't grasp the full picture...
> |
> | When you started your "you don't need firewalls anymore" we but in
> | particular I, tried to direct you to the FACTS of networking and
> | Internet use, regretfully that was apparently beyond your abilities
> | to understand...
> |
> | Shall I go through other of your posts here?????
> |
> | And here you are trying to direct someone to spend money for
> | something BEFORE you have verified that is the problem....
> |
> | So perhaps I may appear to be an *AH* NOW, but really, you need to
> | THINK before you type... and let those who do understand SRTSP, apply
> | them." - MBE -----------------------------------------------------
> |
> | NOW LETS GET OVER THIS CRAP AND GET ON WITH LIFE!!! OK?
>
> Agreed! So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup
> Diskette...?...
>
> http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from "Control
> Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Copy-protect the
> diskette, put it in & turn on the computer.
>
> At the A:\ prompt, enter "DIR" (no quotes). Did you get a listing?
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
>
>

 

[Gary S. Terhune]

Re: Anger Management!

Normally, no, you can't access BIOS from within Windows. Why would you want
to?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"BinaryConverted"
<chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.(myyahoodisposableaddress)> wrote in
message news:900E3533-0E5A-4367-A1E2-6C5D8AF0A43E@microsoft.com...
> Well, I'm not sure that startup is not a problem anymore.
>
> That one resolved itself.
>
> But I might need to access BIOS setup through Windows.
> Is there any way at all?
> --
> A story of success always has a beginning.
>
>
> "PCR" wrote:
>
>> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:36E05E5B-851A-4AC6-962A-6AE89BA6480A@microsoft.com
>> | "MEB spewed:
>> |
>> |> So take your simplistic ideas to a forum where they may laud you
>> |> as semi-intelligent,,,
>> |
>> | You really are an ass hole." - 98 Guy
>> |
>> | "Well, let's review your history here...
>> |
>> | When you brought your ideas to this group regarding IE hacks, I was
>> | the ONLY one who attempted to work with you on that... you didn't
>> | apparently pick-up on TESTING techniques required ....
>> |
>> | When you brought your ideas concerning hard drives to this group, we
>> | all tried to direct you to the materials you needed to understand and
>> | consider for your presentation... glad you picked up on SOME of
>> | that.. to bad you didn't grasp the full picture...
>> |
>> | When you started your "you don't need firewalls anymore" we but in
>> | particular I, tried to direct you to the FACTS of networking and
>> | Internet use, regretfully that was apparently beyond your abilities
>> | to understand...
>> |
>> | Shall I go through other of your posts here?????
>> |
>> | And here you are trying to direct someone to spend money for
>> | something BEFORE you have verified that is the problem....
>> |
>> | So perhaps I may appear to be an *AH* NOW, but really, you need to
>> | THINK before you type... and let those who do understand SRTSP, apply
>> | them." - MBE -----------------------------------------------------
>> |
>> | NOW LETS GET OVER THIS CRAP AND GET ON WITH LIFE!!! OK?
>>
>> Agreed! So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup
>> Diskette...?...
>>
>> http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from "Control
>> Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Copy-protect the
>> diskette, put it in & turn on the computer.
>>
>> At the A:\ prompt, enter "DIR" (no quotes). Did you get a listing?
>>
>> --
>> Thanks or Good Luck,
>> There may be humor in this post, and,
>> Naturally, you will not sue,
>> Should things get worse after this,
>> PCR
>> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>>
>>
>>

 

[MEB]

Your welcome, let us know how it turns out..

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
________


"BinaryConverted"
<chicken989-chickens@yahoo.com.au.(myyahoodisposableaddress)> wrote in
message news:0CF21860-1380-4F56-B7E1-3B0E24D5AC14@microsoft.com...
| Thank's MEB.
|
| I will try to install the drivers as soon as possible.
| --
| A story of success always has a beginning.
|
|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
| >
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...eriesId=96219&swLang=8&taskId=135&swEnvOID=20 -
| > Download drivers and software
| >
| >
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...odTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=96219&taskId=135 -
| > Armada general - locate files
| >
| >
| > Check Chapters 9 and 10 of the manual which Brian directed you to.
| >
| > --
| > MEB
| > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > ________
| >
| >
| > "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > news:C1702973-B90A-4791-88B6-2DC257E2676F@microsoft.com...
| > | Brian A and Gary, I could not start the Compaq Utilities. The computer
| > will
| > | constantly beep and I then have to shut it down.
| > |
| > | What cursor? Mouse or MS-DOS cursor (blinking cursor)?
| > | ---------
| > | "Brian A." wrote:
| > |
| > | > From the manual:
| > | >
| >
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/s...284809-003_rev3_us/TPM_284809-003_rev3_us.pdf
| > | > To access Computer Setup (or Diagnostics) on the Compaq Utilities
menu,
| > follow these
| > | > steps:
| > | > 1. Restart the computer by clicking Shut Down on the Windows Start
menu.
| > (Or turn on
| > | > power.)
| > | > 2. Press F10 as soon as the cursor appears in the upper-right corner
of
| > the screen.
| > | >
| > | > IMPORTANT: The cursor is displayed on the screen for about two
seconds.
| > If you do not
| > | > press F10 during this time, you must restart the computer and try
again.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
| > | > Conflicts start where information lacks.
| > | > http://basconotw.mvps.org/
| > | >
| > | > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
| > | > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > news:6CB83C17-7A90-4C03-859A-5E71BDC0EFE5@microsoft.com...
| > | > > Sorry Gary. F10 didn't work. However, you may be correct in some
| > | > > circumstances. My other Compaq laptop uses the F10 key to get into
| > BIOS/CMOS
| > | > > setup...
| > | > >
| > | > > I will read the website and see what works and what doesn't!
| > | > >
| > | > > If I can or can't fix the problem, I will get back to the website
and
| > reply.
| > | > > Thank you for the link.
| > | > >
| > | > > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
| > | > >
| > | > >> Maybe this will help you.
| > | > >> http://tinyurl.com/3xu2ap
| > | > >>
| > | > >> Did you manage to get into BIOS yet? F10 work?
| > | > >>
| > | > >> --
| > | > >> Gary S. Terhune
| > | > >> MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | > >> www.grystmill.com
| > | > >>
| > | > >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > >> news:ED095E07-DD46-4D09-88B0-1BA8F0D0516F@microsoft.com...
| > | > >> > Model Number? Sure!
| > | > >> >
| > | > >> > Compaq Armada 1592DT
| > | > >> >
| > | > >> > Hope it helps!
| > | > >> >
| > | > >> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
| > | > >> >
| > | > >> >> The usual key for Compaq BIOSes is F10. It would be good to
know
| > what
| > | > >> >> model
| > | > >> >> number the machine is. Here's one set of instructions for
| > replacing the
| > | > >> >> BIOS
| > | > >> >> battery that I came across:
| > | > >> >> http://www.tertullian.org/rpearse/armada/index.htm Kinda
folksy,
| > but has
| > | > >> >> some interesting hints.
| > | > >> >>
| > | > >> >> Really, I've been into laptops a lot, and so long as you
| > disconnect the
| > | > >> >> main
| > | > >> >> battery and give it some time for the capacitors to discharge,
| > there's
| > | > >> >> not
| > | > >> >> really much risk, if any, other than you mucking something
up --
| > those
| > | > >> >> things are NOT fun to work on.
| > | > >> >>
| > | > >> >> --
| > | > >> >> Gary S. Terhune
| > | > >> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | > >> >> www.grystmill.com
| > | > >> >>
| > | > >> >> "John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > >> >> news:20EEA03E-7263-4DBB-BCEA-931E20C5D532@microsoft.com...
| > | > >> >> > Yes, I need to get to the BIOS setup, but I do not know the
key
| > | > >> >> > combination!
| > | > >> >> >
| > | > >> >> > We got this laptop from someone else, and yet, no CD, no
| > instructions,
| > | > >> >> > no
| > | > >> >> > recovery disk etc.
| > | > >> >> >
| > | > >> >> > I do not want to look at all the components in the laptop to
see
| > if my
| > | > >> >> > battery is dead, due to the fact that capacitors can hold
large
| > amounts
| > | > >> >> > of
| > | > >> >> > electricity. I tried one key combination, but it didn't go
into
| > | > >> >> > BIOS/CMOS
| > | > >> >> > Setup.
| > | > >> >> >
| > | > >> >> > I would say it was probably manafactured in between 1996 -
2000.
| > | > >> >> >
| > | > >> >> > "Gordon Freeman" wrote:
| > | > >> >> >
| > | > >> >> >> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote:
| > | > >> >> >>
| > | > >> >> >> >|
| > | > >> >> >> >| No, I couldn't check for CMOS/BIOS batteries. But the
| > battery in
| > | > >> >> >> >the
| > | > >> >> >> >| laptop does not charge at all.
| > | > >> >> >> >
| > | > >> >> >> > That's not good. When those go bad [unless its a *new
| > defect*
| > | > >> >> >> > rather
| > | > >> >> >> > than
| > | > >> >> >> > too many deep discharges] you have a real good
indication
| > that the
| > | > >> >> >> > interior batteries [CMOS/other] need checked.
| > | > >> >> >>
| > | > >> >> >>
| > | > >> >> >> Yes, if the BIOS battery is dead the BIOS will probably
reset
| > to its
| > | > >> >> >> defaults, which may assume a different configuration, e.g
| > different
| > | > >> >> >> hard
| > | > >> >> >> drive - I had that once years ago: an 80MB disk was
suddenly
| > assumed
| > | > >> >> >> to
| > | > >> >> >> be a 60MB one by the BIOS, result being the laptop stopped
| > working.
| > | > >> >> >>
| > | > >> >> >> I would go into BIOS setup at power on and verify all the
| > settings are
| > | > >> >> >> right. You may need the manual for the machine to verify
what
| > the
| > | > >> >> >> settings should be. Note though that if the battery is dead
| > then it
| > | > >> >> >> will
| > | > >> >> >> forget the settings again on power off, however if changing
the
| > BIOS
| > | > >> >> >> settings fixes the problem you will at least have isolated
the
| > problem
| > | > >> >> >> and can try and get the BIOS battery replaced.
| > | > >> >> >>
| > | > >> >> >> Of course it might be that the drive really is failing,
having
| > checked
| > | > >> >> >> the
| > | > >> >> >> BIOS settings and ensured the disk is being detected
correctly
| > you'd
| > | > >> >> >> want
| > | > >> >> >> to run a surface scan, (or preferably manufacturer's
| > diagnostics
| > | > >> >> >> program
| > | > >> >> >> if
| > | > >> >> >> available, these will usaully look at the SMART data etc
and
| > see
| > | > >> >> >> information that is invisible to scandisk about failing
sectors
| > etc).
| > | > >> >> >>
| > | > >> >>
| > | > >> >>
| > | > >> >>
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | > >>
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
| >

 

[PCR]

Re: Anger Management!

"Angel" <angel@noway.com> wrote in message
news:O4K7RHG4HHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl
| ROFL!! LOL!!

Ah, ha, ha-- BUT, careful! Don't put a dent into those wings!

| Angel
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:uITxm6C4HHA.4184@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
|> "98 Guy" <98@Guy.com> wrote in message news:46C39F2E.A3B20E67@Guy.com
|> | PCR wrote:
|> |
|> |> So-- is your machine a laptop or not? Can you boot a Startup
|> |> Diskette...?...
|> |
|> | His hard drive was pooched, but he doesn't want to say that I was
|> | right, so he just let the thread die.
|>
|> I'm not 100% convinced it wasn't his battery or power supply that was
|> pooched. But I'm outa here! I don't want to get between you & MEB
|> anymore than between Angel & thanatoid!
|>
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
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